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- The Green Bay Packers defeated the Dallas Cowboys 48-32 on Sunday. Colin Cowherd and Greg Olsen discuss the future of the Cowboys, and what we should make of Packers QB Jordan Love’s explosive playoff debut. Plus what went wrong for the Miami Dolphins and QB Tua Tagovailoa, and if the Philadelphia Eagles can turn things around in the playoffs.
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I appreciate Greg Olsen the more I listen to him. No crazy histrionics just level headed conversation and analysis
YEP. Damn good TE too - always respected that talent, now this talent too.
Too bad Brady is going to bump his spot next year.
Wtf is a histrionic????
Disagree hard. During games, he says a lot of buzz words and stock phrases that don't match what's going on in the game.
Hindsight is 20/20 and that's all you're hearing.
Scream GUARD
Greg Olsen is so good. I really appreciated him saying you can't overact to the games for Tua & Dak to decide what to do next. He's right and thoughtful. I have no answers but ready, fire, aim never works.
In this case, when it comes to Tua Tagovailoa, I completely disagree. I’m more flexible with Dak Prescott, but if I’m serious about winning a championship, I can’t keep rolling out with a guy who isn’t capable of overcoming elements. Not in the AFC. If I am the Dolphins, I would trade him to Atlanta for a second rounder and a pic swap in the first. Someplace in the NFC, where I don’t have to see him again, and he can compete where he doesn’t necessarily always need to go into cold-weather stadiums.
@@daecesnob1e283 I hear you. I like the coach, he's smart. I would have flown them out and practiced in the cold for days & days before the game. The entire team look like they didn't want to be there not just Tua. Great coaches focus on the small details & why I dislike this one side of the ball focus. It detracts from the global details that help teams win strategically IMHO.
@@shep1582 you’re right, practicing in the elements would’ve probably helped immensely. And I also understand that the defense wasn’t great, and they had injuries to the point where they were playing six guys that are not normal starters. But at the same time, if I pay Tua Tagovailoa $45-$50 million, I’m not going to be able to afford to put a great Defense on the other side. The players that would be playing with him consistently would be of the same level as the players that played on Saturday night. And again, I don’t think he is talented enough to overcome roster deficiencies like a bad defense, roster deficiencies, like a bad offensive line, non-ideal weather circumstances. That’s enough reason for me to go drop somebody else.
@@daecesnob1e283 Tbh the defense didn't look like they could tackle in that weather either can't just blame Tua
Point missing that Green Bay has done is qb development. Like Cam said these guys are game managers and once the lights get the brightest you’ll always come into these problems. Teams need better development strategies for qbs.
Greg Olson has incredibly football IQ. A pleasure to listen to him everytime
And he’s a big proponent of Russell Wilson’s.
Greg Olsen dominated the broadcast airwaves this year over all of the other broadcasters. I love hearing how he is able to break down the games so deeply along with his obvious enthusiasm for the game of football!!! Very well done Greg!
Shoutout to Greg Olson one time, among all the borderline to flat terrible broadcasters Greg is awesome in the booth. Breaks the game down really simple & digestible. And lefleur choosing to take the ball to start the game set the tone man fr. Get Dallas down early, take the run game out of it, Mike doesn’t wanna run it anyways, force Dak to match throws and keep up
Olsen’s such a great mind. I almost wanna see him get into coaching but I love his broadcasting a lot.
I don’t understand why people ignore strength of schedule. Dallas scored a ton, but against teams under .500.. I get that they can’t control their schedule, but it means something. They aren’t being tested until the playoffs.
I’ve been an NFL fan since 1982..and I’ve never seen someone breakdown the game that like before..wow. Greg Olsen is awsome! I’m going to make it a point to watch his broadcasts now.
It's almost like John madden never existed huh.
@@Immigrationsituation Maybe I was just too young during his run, but I mostly remember Madden for being the “turducken” guy and obviously the video games 😂.
Greg Olsen is great at everything
The packers have used the same QB guru to train Favre, Rodgers and now Love. They brought him back once they drafted Love and he’s been teaching him for a few years now. The Packers have an advantage in patience from not having a classic owner.
The Packers now have more playoff wins in AT&T Stadium, than the Cowboys do. 😊
That opening drive that the Pack put together was hands down from start to finish the best complete and definitively well composed drive I think I recall seeing since the Super Bowl squad of 1996 or so with Favre and the big guys that won it who played around that time.
A genuine work of art! Thanks!!
Green Bay has Cincinnati feels. Young team, young great players and QB. Finding success early. Hopefully they can keep the health in check
Health has been killing us all year and a large part of why we were 9-8. Added another 4 to the injury list last night as has been typical of every game this year.
@@voldemort008 Yeah a ton of our stars sat a lot of games this year and Bakh might as well be Rodgers with how much cap he's taking up to not play for us. Something like 40% of our salary cap was being paid out to guys who weren't suited up for us. AND we traded Rasul probably thinking we were on the verge of a fire sale season.
Far as Packers seasons in my lifetime this was one of the best nononononononoyes seasons next to 'run the table'. And this was a much less expensive and experienced team doing it.
@@voldemort008if we keep Barry we hamper what could genuinely be a super bowl team as soon as next year. Not counting out the team this year because it's borderline impossible to stop all our offensive weapons but San Fran deserves respect. Barry is a serious liability.
@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control easily one of the most fun seasons I've gotten the pleasure of watching.
@@rjmacready6693 Now close your eyes and imagine winning next week lol.
Are We Just Gonna Skip Past The Fact That Cowturd Said Dallass Was Gonna Wiped The Floor With The Packers
And Jordan love is a bust. This guy honestly has no idea lol
If Cowherd has criticism about your team, you are probably on the right track. He knows as little about football as anyone I know.
...uuh, Dallas was favored by 7 pts.. guess MOST got it wrong 🤣
He constantly deflects. He now pretends even Lafleur is shocked by Love's play. Dude refuses to take the L.
Romeo Doubs has been the best Packer's receiver all year against man coverage and it showed. Everyone was talking about Watson, Wicks, and Reed all week, but I knew it would be Doubs who had the best game out of the WR room.
Romeo is a stud, will be good for many years
No one has garnered more separation against man than Wicks. He's top 5 in separation in the entire league....that's an insane stat for a rookie receiver. You could argue Doubs has the best hands.
I have been a fan of Doubs since he was drafted. I feel like people don’t really take notice of him or something. He doesn’t drop the ball. Great hands and I trust him to make big plays. The Packers have definitely got themselves some talented young receivers.
Jordan love is a baller. But he needed 1st team reps and some games to gain some confidence. Once he felt comfortable
He was off to the races
Really like listening to Greg Olsen call games and stuff like this.
Greg Olsen is the truth in the booth. Keep delivering Big Dog.
The way he caught himself at 13:57 😂😂😂
Good to see Jordan Love improving and not listening to critics but working through his difficulties. That's why you don't pull youngsters out of the starting lineup but let them figure it out. Good to see Green Bay doing it right. They do a good job developing players and that oline did a heck of a job against the Cowboys pass rush, I think they didn't allow a sack and ran the ball effectively.
I remember years ago when Spread Offense first came out. Some old school football coach said” line up half roll and bump it is not gonna cut it in NFL” defense and running the football wins the championship in NFL
Greg, you woke a sleeping giant in Jordan Love when you didn't give him that turkey leg on Thanksgiving. Thank you for that.
Man, Greg Olsen really knows his stuff. The man is a NFL encyclopedia.
Tua is the Dak Prescott of the afc
Glad Greg getting some good recognition in the comments. He Deserves it
When Matt Lafluer became Packers head coach, he spent months studying Aaron Rodgers/Mike McCarthy film. Nobody is more familiar with what Mike wants to do than Matt. That’s why the Cowboys looked LOST on offense. Prime example is the triple slants play that was returned to the house by Savage. That was one of his favorite plays in Green Bay.
As a Niner fan, of course I want them to win out. But as a fan of football, I’d like to see Green Bay upset them and have Detroit make history at home by winning a second playoff game and host the NFC championship against a fierce division rival and win the Title game in Detroit, whose fans have been so faithful all these years.
I told a bunch of packers fan here in Chicago that they would make the playoffs back in November; they laughed it off, but I know good QBs. As a bears fan, I know when one sux and when one is good, typically they always play us 😢
Then I hope you realize Fields is a good QB who could genuinely be great with a real offensive mind and coaching staff supporting him. He will go to another team and thrive.
If they double down on Tua Tagovailoa, as their long-term, starting quarterback, they are digging their own grave into mediocrity. The AFC & frigid January playoff football are synonymous, you can’t go into every playoff season, knowing you are most likely going to have to travel into the elements with a quarterback that limits your playbook to 40% of what it normally is. That is what you could tell was the case yesterday, because the Coach doesn’t trust him to make the throws when the wind is blowing, the air is frigid and the ball as hard as a rock. Every season is going to end with them getting outclassed, by superior quarterback if they decide to go that route. And I will have no empathy.
The dolphins shouldn't even be in that division
Also I’m not saying it’s Tua’s fault that they lost, but I don’t think the Dolphins can ever win a championship with him as their quarterback, or unless they get the number one seed, or another warm weather/dome team has it to where they don’t have to play in harsh conditions.
I would say to McDaniel: “Mike, you have a choice this off-season. If you tie yourself to this quarterback, if you choose to double down and stick with him as your guy, you’re jeopardizing your job. Once you pay him $45 million and he doesn’t have the good pieces around him, and he’s not talented enough to overcome the roster deficiencies, you’re going to find yourself on a one-way train to mediocrity. You’ll miss the playoffs two or three years consecutively or go one-and-done again then eventually get let go. It’s your choice.”
They need to trade Tua for high picks and bring in Russ while they strategize trading those picks to get a stud from college. Russ will cost Miami $1.2M
I really think the only thing wrong with the Miami dolphins is they need an offensive line because they don't have one.
@@user-ks5vo9se2t yes, but how much of an offensive can they pay for when Tua Tagovailoa is 17% to 23% of their cap? Yet keep him if you’re not gonna pay him at this point, franchise tag, or otherwise. And he needs a good line because he’s not talented enough to overcome deficiencies in the line if and when they exist. Or you can buy a good line and sacrifice the defense, but then Tua Tagovailoa always have to win shoot outs.
This is what went wrong Green Bay hire and develope Hall of Fame quarterbacks and Dallas hire and develope below average ball handlers
Greg is fantastic
Greg olsen is fantastic
For the Packers it may show it's easier teaching a young dog new tricks over old ones . Young guys are more motivated and usually have more energy . If you don't overly complicate the system and make them aware of there specific job you can have success . Now it appears they are doing this without senior leadership to guide the young guys on the field and another reason it's so amazing . The Packers and Houston are very similar . Ownership may look at this and ask why we should pay top dollar for a player . The rams are a good example . They paid kupp but Nacua is a far better player that's not paid
Dak had 2 picks and 1 was a pick6. Unforgivable
It’s beginning to look like Jordan Lice and CJ Stroud might be the new QBs of the moment.
I’ve never thought that much of Tua, and I can’t even figure out what Jalen Hurts does arguably better than any QB in the league. You need that one go-to skill as a QB.
Greg, it seems like your hands in that camera set-up tends to be a distraction. Other than that you're a sharp guy, so keep up the good work.
Give Belichick $100 million to interview.
😂 they should rename airport to Jordan Love Field in Dallas.
With the 17 game season and the extended playoff format, teams have become streakier, teams can't seem to hold focus long enough to be consistently dominant. Injuries over the enlarged season are probably one factor.
Bryce Young had the lowest QB rating in the 2023 season at 73. Tua's performance against the chiefs was 63.
Greg the egg you a bad bad man
Good job dude you’re awesome 👏
People should notice how bias the national media is, they headline it, "What went wrong for TUA and Dolphins" but NOT "What went wrong for DAK." It's amazing how much less criticism guys like Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, even Lamar Jackson, etc receive when they have bad games with all the former ballers saying, "it wasn't Dak's fault." No, it wasn't all Dak's fault, the Dallas Defense was horrible too but it was definitely Dak as well. Kirk Cousins receives so much criticism when he fails in playoffs, yet Dak has failed every year with a lousy playoff record of 2-5. Dak only feasts on bad teams in regular season, come playoff time against decent and good teams, he plays BAD.
You lost me with Lamar 😂😂 dude is literally the most overly criticized qb there is.
An Tua stinks!
Oh you a miner fan lol purdy got destroyed by ravens and Lamar, foh
Greg is the best
Leading the league in scoring in the REGULAR SEASON is one thing, having a team that excels when it really matters is another...
AJ was like 12 for 38 in the first half... it was love carving them up.
Loves one helluva backup huh Colin? 😂😂😂😂 🤟🏻🧀 nd yall still owe him a turkey leg Greg! 😂
Olsen needs to call every game!
Tua's deep pass threat was anemic. The receivers were having to wait for the ball every time.
False dude lead the league in passing yards that don't happen been anemic .instead you should have 30 interceptions you people say anything
@truthseekerchris8766 You people? All non Dolphins fans?
Oh, wait, Colin!!! You said Jordan Love would NEVER be elite.
I guess you were wrong. He decimated the Cowboys. And their DC.
GO aka Mr Reliable 🤟🏾 is a hall of fame TE
As a Packers fan for the last 33 years, I went from watching Mike Holmgren to Mike Sherman to Ray Rhodes to Mike McCarthy to Matt LaFleur coaching these teams.
The thing that always bothered me about McCarthy was that for all of the regular season success he had in GB, he was AWFUL in the playoffs and I’ve said it almost since it happened…it felt like GB won their last Super Bowl in spite of Mike McCarthy and not because he led them. I think a lot of people grossly underestimate just how often Aaron Rodgers’ Godlike play at the QB position bailed out the Packers. He made bonehead in-game and personnel decisions at GB and to be completely honest, it feels like he’s done worse at Dallas.
Don’t get me wrong, Mike McCarthy the person? Great man and I can understand why players like to play for him. Mike McCarthy the head football coach? Completely out of his element. I think he’s perfectly fine as an offensive coordinator, but as an HC? Just not good and with so many great coaches currently out there to potentially get, if I were the Cowboys, I’d make a move now.
Rodgers was awful in the postseason too. He's .500. he's 1-4 in Title games. This Joe Barry defense, almost identical personnel held San Fran to zero touchdowns in the Divisional round and Rodgers siphoned in on Davante missed open lazard play after play. He wouldn't run Lafleur's offense and refused to throw over the middle of the field. 2010 we had a elite defense. They played dangerously through that run. Rodgers played awful in the 2010 NFC title game against Chicago and through multiple picks. The defense saved him. He throws multiple picks in every title game he's been a part of.
Yeah Tua needs certain conditions it's called an offensive line because he did doesn't have one.
if special teams simply grabs an onside kick, they are heading to the Super Bowl to play NE. @@rjmacready6693
You can say whatever you want about Tua but he is a great QB he just needs an offensive line
But the Cowboys put up big numbers against bad teams. They didn't do that against good teams. Pointing to scoring against the likes of the Giants and Commanders as a defense of their offense is just dumb.
Packer fans haven’t forgot about what Colin said about Love.
Dolphin fans it could be worse. You could be the arizona cardinals and pay kyler after losing 5 of the last 6 games in regular season then losing to the rams in one of the worst qb performances of all time (in sofi)
Mr Olsen, why didn’t we have home field? Because Tua stunk up the joint at home vs the Bills the week before. I understand we can’t just cut the guy, but to act like Saturday night was some fluke because of the weather. His w/l vs good teams in all kinds of weather the last 2 seasons has been terrible and in he was 1-6 vs good teams this year and not 1 300 yard passing game. Can we stop acting like he’s Joe Montana if Dolphins just stick with him?
Cowherd overlooked Love...silly silly boy
Greg is just wrong about the Dolphins. The mentality of "well who's gonna replace him?" is the same mentality that kept Tannehill with the Phins for 7 years. Also how do you look at Tua's career and seeing what Stroud & Love did in their first season and not move on? First year he needed to win against Buffalo backups to get into the playoffs, and he couldn't do anything, the next year we could only win when the defense had superb games and got tons of turnovers and points, and when we needed to win out to make the playoffs, we put up 3 points against the Titans, lost to Tannehill. His third year we got him the best WR in the league, and he gets hurt, so not his fault. But we did see a practice squad QB lead the team into Buffalo in his third start and put up a 31 point performance in the playoffs. Okay so his first two seasons he didn't have the support of the coach or enough offensive weapons, flip the script and you get him the best WR in the NFL, an offensive line (which in fairness had a lot of injuries) and you vastly improve the running game. The result? The most empty 4k yard season and failing against the Titans and Bills at HOME to win the division. The best team we beat was the cowboys... think about that. 4 years in, and we haven't seen any meaningful or clutch wins when we absolutely needed it. Oh, and let's not forget his three chokes against the Chiefs the first time (missed throw), inability to lead the team down the field against the Titans (don't forget he got outscored vastly that game because Miami got a pick six), and him staring down Chase Claypool in double coverage and forcing him the ball (but we're supposed to believe that he can go to his second read...). I want nothing more for than for him to be a great QB, but it feels like unless absolutely everything is perfect on offense we can't succeed, your line isn't always going to be perfect and your first read isn't always going to be open by 15 yards. McDaniel is another story who hasn't produced better results than Flores (he inherited a lot of good defensive players and has Tyreek, Flores in his last two years went 10-6 & 9-8, McDaniel has gone 9-8 & 11-5, Flores was just unlucky that the standings didn't allow him to get in, while you can make the case McDaniel has been lucky, especially the first year.
What went wrong for dolphins. We got a qb with small hands and not a strong arm. Never gonna be good in the cold
Greg Olson is right, makes Mahomes look even better that Reid has never given Mahomes a good running game all these years to protect him and set up better passing plays, there is a reason Reid never won a SB before Mahomes. I hope Mahomes next coach is a Shanahan or McVay type
Anyone remember when Colin said Love was not a guy.
Pepperidge farm remembers
Well rested somtimes means well rusted too.
GOOD COACHES MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ON OFFENSE AND DEFENSE .
They were NOT a good team against GOOD TEAMS they beat bad teams which is what you are supposed to do in all leagues Which is ehy they changed MLB schedule so the division teams dont just beat the brakes off the Bad teams but Dallas just dis not play well against Good teams
They scored the most points against the weaker teams!! Does no one else see that?
Cowherd: "The Eagles are going to run run run the ball" They sure did... 15 times in the entire game! Insanity.
How is it working if you can’t win in the playoffs?
His hands are huge😂
GOPACKGO 🧀
I will not watch Colin at the beginning of any season again.
Packers was my SAFEST BET of the wildcard round ..plus seven was FREE MONEY
And… the Hawks fans want the Mighty Quinn as HC?
Who thought the Dolphins would win? To many key injuries and they were playing in cold weather.
I bet Christian Watson is chomping at the bit to get out there. Imagine if he was out there on this receiving corps.
He's spent most of his career on the bench at this point, his luck with injury so far isn't great. The whole receiving corps has speed at this point and green bay doesn't have to take deep shots to win. gb has a lot of competition at wr now, first time in like 12 years.
I like Greg
Just didn’t like him eating Jordan turkey leg 😂
The problem with the Miami dolphins is they don't have an offensive line
How can you not be out on Dak!? He only beats terrible teams, can't play good teams at all and has one of the worst playoff records in Cowboys franchise history. Don't let his garbage time stats fool you, he was absolutely terrible last night.
What they did when holding a big lead was pad the stats rather than install a running game and work on it McCarthy just wanted to show that he could score well no he can't when a game turns into a fist fight
I’m a die hard packers goin back to majkowski and sharp. My next thought is cowboy fans love their team and they really do when is Jerry Jones done being Jerry Kraus? Cowboy fans are being held hostage
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I don't think the Cowboys offense actually was #1 in the league. When you take away points scored by the defense, I think the Cowboys actually finished like 3rd or 4th in scoring. Still good, but let's keep it real.
Nothing went right for Dolphins, they floundered in ice cold weather.
Thanks for actually speaking on the positives on the Packers part...all coverage I've heard last 24 hours is all how bad the cowboys are YET THEY WERE FAVORED BY 7.5🤣💯
Eagles also do that.. Shotgun… don’t help the QB
If he was “smart” there would be no “communication issues”
My prediction was Packers winning by 3 TD’s. Close enough… 🤣🙌🏆
They play the giants and commanders twice a year it inflates their numbers
Only one winner but many teams that could have won. If we were real honest about our assessments, we’d recognize the Cowboys were Super Bowl worthy for at least 3 of the last 20 years. We all know the best teams don’t necessarily automatically win but here we are debating why a team didn’t win.
Fire McCarthy and Quinn. Get another wr outside of lamb keep dak. Draft a back up qb with high ceiling.
If nothing else this beat down fully exposes Mcarthy as a coach unable to adapt to high energy mobile offensives. Jerry Jones needs to can him/Dak and hire Bill Belichick. 0~o
What was wrong w Tua? Answer? The Chiefs Defense
Tua just isn’t that guy. He needs way too many things to be perfect for him to be successful. He can’t carry a team and is severely limited both physically and mentally. Miami needs to potentially bring in someone like Justin fields.
fields.... isn't he the guy who said he couldn't remember the playbook?
The great thing with Justin Fields as your QB is that you always know your QB is elite even if you never have a winning record or a top 20 passing game.
I hate Greg Olsen as a commentator. I am surprised he is getting so much love.
Bring in Harbaugh
Third legg Gregg
Cincinnati need to hear this smh. All they know is 5 wide make joe Superman
No we don't need a new coach and QB we need an offensive line for Miami because we don't have one
Problem with the Cowboys is Jerry Jones.
Love did the Lambo leap on Daks mom 😂. Ya’ll got bukakeed by a 7 seed 😂