Gilbert Arenas EXPOSES The Truth Behind The Lakers-CP3 Trade
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- čas přidán 31. 01. 2024
- Gilbert Arenas DEBUNKS The Biggest What If In NBA History as he and The Gil's Arena Crew discuss the INFAMOUS Trade that nearly sent Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers and Gil peels back the curtain to expose what really went down between David Stern, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul and the NBA.
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Poor Brandon Jennings, that's a cold way to find out Santa Claus doesn't exist 😂😭
Mannn hurt his heart to hear Tha truth
Straight up! He did not want to believe this collusion for coaching shit.
@@shamichaelthompson6713 wen he was talking he like they sell their souls and paused it hit hard
@@darrylscott9206 You shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.
😂😂😂😂😂
Gil the master of the campfire story.
Nigga think he Katt Williams lol
Bro be taking folks on a tale like they weren’t here to witness it. Just saying anything
Which we all know it's all bullshit 😅
@@esvinperez3580Gil just be bullsh**ing
This has been confirm by Jennie buss off the Lakers. Gil’s telling the truth
Dell Demps was GM of the Hornets at the time. And he was given the leeway to negotiate trades like any other GM. Him and then Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak came to an agreement in principle.
Stern vetoed the trade because other teams complained specifically Mark Cuban and Greg Popovich. Stern was never part of the trade negotiations. He’s just the one who stopped it from happening.
It wasn't Popovich but the owner of the cleveland cavaliers Dan Gilbert. Popovich is a coach and has ZERO power to do anything about it. Cuban and Dan Gilbert on the other hand are owners and Stern who's job as commissioner is to represent owners had to step in.
I’m from Nola and this is true
@@crashboy0Pop was vocal as well. He’s not an owner. But his voice still carries weight. He also complained publicly about the Gasol trade.
You are right about Gilbert. He also complained publicly.
Maybe you can break this down for me. if Demps was able to negotiate on behalf of the Hornets, how can It be vetoed by the league? He’s essentially saying yes I’m Okay with this trade.
That was the first time I had ever heard of a league vetoing a trade so I’m just a little confused on who had what power in the situation. Because does this mean the league can veto any trade? If those in power agreed to it, why did the league step in?
😂😂😂😂😂😂 usually I don't say this but it's wild ASF how people think they know more about stuff like this in pro sports than the actual people that were around it
Brandon Jennings Laugh let’s me know he is so fried 🤣
gil hella wrong lmao
😂😂😂😂😂
Gil be making stuff up 😂
How lol
Nah you’re just a fan showing you really don’t know sh!t and trying to put your lack of sense on Gil. Stay in the nosebleeds
Bruh none of that is made up them pure facts
I like Gil but he's constantly making stuff up
It's actually true. It's been said multiple time by multiple people
a) odom and pau were on an $8.5M and $17M deals.
b) chris paul was on a $14M deal.
c) chris bosh and lebron james joined the heat during the 2010-11 season.
d) the lockout and the cp3 to the lakers deal was somewhere in december of the 2011-12 season
nothing checks out and the maths aint mathing.
It all checks out. It happened in December of 2011. No Info Gil.
Google "Letter to David Stern from Dan Gilbert"
Revisionist history, there was n independent gm for the hornets (New Orleans) who proposed the trade. David Stern shut it down.
That part
Is it just me or is it hard t0 follow along with these convos sometimes 😂
He shut it down cause the other owners complained
@@jaywill742 it’s not just you 😩
People be forgetting the part where the hornets didn't have a owner and the NBA was trying to sell the team so they couldn't get rid of Chris Paul
I felt like if cp3 was on the Lakers kobe would of never torn his Achilles
Yea most likely Kobe wouldn’t have the ball in his hands 80% less workload
And Kobe would’ve played longer
Can’t live in the land of ifs and maybes.
but cp3 would have gotten injured
by butterfly effect logic yea
3:36 The best free agents in 2011 was Jamal Crawford, Tyson Chandler, Arron Afflalo, Caron Butler, and Shane Battier. Bron and Bosh signed with Miami in 2010.
He said "in theory". We know that they werent available but Melo was gonna be that next year. 2011 or 2012 if I'm not mistaken. Imagine a team with prime 24 Kobe, prime Dwight, Clippers CP3 and 2012 Melo. Kobe coulda left and they'd still be championship contenders. Think of DRose getting more money from the Lakers and leaving to go to LA. Think of Ray Allen going to LA for more money. Shane Battier on that team is crazy good. He was a solid 10 points while being solid on defense. Crazy to think.
@@tila99 Melo got paid way more than the $12m is mentioning. Melo averaged $21m on his 2012-2013 contract
@@roycedotif they still he 24 mil you can still get melo and 3 million to spare. Melo would’ve took a little less to play in la with Kobe and win
@@itzbreeze9839you don't know that
@@asundelgun3487 the key words in that is “in theory” so it was definitely possible. There was no better selling point.
The first minute shows how clueless Gil can be about the NBA business.
He forgot there was a lockout & Dan Gilbert was bitching
He so funny. 😂 wrong as fuck off the rip!
Gil be knowing everything and nothing at the same time
If this doesn’t sum up this whole podcast lmao
What he said was mostly true. The NBA owned the team at the time, but it would be a conflict of interest for them to approve their own trade, so the owners got to vote on it. Dan Gilbert and Mark Cuban were vocal about not letting the trade go through so it was vetoed.
Mostly nothing tbh
he's like odb
@@jm-tl6od watch ya mouth boy
Gil is fried. This trade happened after the 2011 season where Lebron was already in Miami. A max contract was about 17/18 mill because the Miami big 3 took a pay cut and got about 16 mill to sign so they couldn’t get two max guys
I was about to say the same thing cause he making shit up.
After the lockout
He was totally wrong in his assessment, he totally made that up. As for the negotiating table, David Stern had absolutely nothing to do with that, Mark Cuban was the guy that stepped in. Because at the time the trade had actually been made before Stern vetoed it. The Lakers were trying to build a super team back then. LeBron played well below his market value to win a championship, going the route of Michael Jordan in taking less to win, knowing he made millions away from the court in endorsements and it would hurt him.
@@jameswarner300 *Dan Gilbert
Not to mention he said Chris Paul was the president of the player association in 2011. When he clearly became president in 2013 😂
Jeannie Buss discussed this on the All The Smoke podcast.
The trade details were:
Rockets: Pau Gasol
Hornets: Lamar Odom, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic
Lakers: Chris Paul
And then Bynum and a pick or whatever for Howard right after??? Dawg.... that's wild
He just be making stuff up, Dwight for Bynum at that time would’ve made absolutely no sense, plus nobody was stacking up draft picks back then
@SplatInYourFace They didn't have to. The rule of two or three consecutive picks can't be traded was not in effect. They would have just traded all the picks in the equal amount of years in Kobe and the other stars' contracts. In other words they'd sell 3 or 4 picks maybe a few second rounders in there and get Dwight. There were definitely ways to do so.
Bron and Bosh were not free agents when CP3 almost got traded to the Lakers
“In theory”. They would’ve gotten 2 max players LIKE them.
He totally had his timeframe mixed up
@@dukedp78you weren’t getting a max player for 12 million delusional take 😂
@@Tumorcoach go look for yourself, salary cap was barely $60M. So Yes. Max contracts were around 12-15M. With that,keeping players thru Bird years, and players more than likely willing to make a deal to play with an All-star roster. All of this is very likely
@@dukedp78 Lebron wade and bush were getting 14.5 again as I said 12 million gets you Richard Hamilton he was the 12 million guy. So no it’s not true take your own advice and actually research. None of this likely it’s own likely to people who who aren’t smart enough to comprehend. Weren’t getting a top 20 player for 12 million wouldn’t have gotten players like them
One of the biggest what ifs is during Bernard Kings cocaine run in the late 70s. Almost forced Kevin Loughery to quit, which would have had Phil Jackson slide in as coach for them. Would have been a completely different coaching journey for him, and likely a complete reimagining of the stars we revere today.
Gil turned into the uncle who tells wild stories
If Dwight had a problem with Kobe. Imagine what’d he be going through with Kobe and CP3 😂
CP3 would had msde them gel though
Nah Chris Paul is the passer they needed.
@@BroCoolFire CP3 doesn't fit most teams. He probably wouldn't have geld with Kobe himself.
@@penkima4923actually THAT CP3 gel'd with every team. He could pass and score whenever necessary. He was also a good defensive player despite him being "short".
Put that CP3 on the 2016 Warriors they blow everyone out with ease. Put CP3 on the 2014 Heat they don't lose to the Spurs. Put CP3 on the Lakers with 2012 Kobe and bring over that Dwight Howard? Nah. It's over for the league dawg. CP3 is exactly what a team needs. Even in 2021, he was still really impactful. 2019 he got injured but he and Harden had the Warriors shaking in their boots.
Theu forgot cp3 revamped the suns... the suns was ass before cp3 got there and they ended up making a deep playoff run the very year cp3 got there.. hes a pure pg... reads an offense better than almost anyone and used to be a pick pocket machine in his younger days @tila99
Jeannie Bus told us exactly what happened and that wasn't it Gil lol
Like we should believe her or something? History can be a deceiving thing when the people behind it can distort truth, I thought Kat William's let yall know, as long people have power over others there will always have a leeway, Victor Wembayana wasn't go anywhere except San Antonio, I don't care how many balls fell on place or the chances of them getting the pick, the moment that kid showed promise he wasn't going to fall on teams like Charlotte there is no way.
@@glcsanderLike we should believe Gil or something? And btw Katt Williams is not always right
@glcsander #1 do you even know what she said ?
#2 Katt told his truth .. but he also said he read 3000 books 📚 a yr as a kid and icecube said Rickey did audition for money mike.
No, Jeannie told half the truth, and you just didn't listen well enough to pick up on it; Gil told the other half.
It's true that the GM of the time approved the trade, and it's true that David Stern was both the commissioner and acting owner of the team, and it's true that he vetoed the trade as the acting owner of the Hornets. It's also true that complaints from the other owners is what prompted him to veto the trade. See how both can be correct at the same time?
All you have to do is google "Dan Gilbert letter to David Stern Chris Paul Trade." While you're at it google "Mark Cuban oppose Chris Paul trade."
Not only is Google a free tool you all refuse to use, you don't even listen well enough to know when to do so.
@@jrnew1970yeah because he is just a 3rd party. I would rather believe a 3rd party than the team who is involved because if you know what goes down in that PR bs man you will never the things that they are protecting and hiding to the public.
Hanging with Mr. COOPER 😂😂😂
Gil is the smartest kid in the slow class
lmfao
😂😂😂
is this from a fresh livestream? Glad Lexie back😂
jeanie buss literally had an episode on all the smoke explaining what happened
Jeannie told half the truth, and you just didn't listen well enough to pick up on it; Gil told the other half.
It's true that the GM of the time approved the trade, and it's true that David Stern was both the commissioner and acting owner of the team, and it's true that he vetoed the trade as the acting owner of the Hornets. It's also true that complaints from the other owners is what prompted him to veto the trade. See how both can be correct at the same time?
All you have to do is google "Dan Gilbert letter to David Stern Chris Paul Trade." While you're at it google "Mark Cuban oppose Chris Paul trade."
Not only is Google a free tool you all refuse to use, you don't even listen well enough to know when to do so.
Actually he made a great point in that Cuban breakdown..
Because all the owners were default co-owners off the hornets at that time
Yes, and people are still arguing as if this isn't common knowledge.
And if you lived in Dallas at the time Mark Cuban actually went on the morning show to speak about this issue and they trade was at a stand still before it ultimately got vetoed
This will always be my favorite story in NBA history There are so many what if scenarios
I never thought about it like that🤯
This was very interesting
That year hurt my heart as a laker fan
Damn thank you Gil!! We always wanted to know the real history behind the CP3 trade‼️🫡
Too bad this ain’t it bro
Stern was acting as the commissioner in that scenario not the owner of the Hornets..
The acting GM navigated the trade and it was denied by the league.. just like many others in the past for various reasons that get denied without making news..
It actually was a valid reason, Why he vetoed it the trade. He asked the Lakers to fix it by adding more draft picks and younger players and they chose not to.
Doesn't add up... Chris Paul wasn't the NBPA president until 2013 and that was in 2011, right?
curry was the president.. got a coaching job afterwards too. watch the whole video
gibert's point was it was the owners that shut it down which is true
But he was vice president
Dell Demps was the GM. David Stern didn’t own the team. All the other owners have an interest. Trade can’t be made without an owner. DAVID STERN DID NOT OWN THE TEAM.
Not you being dumb and wrong 🤦🏾♂️
Exactly
@@tayburke9804😂😂😂
Dell Demps made the trade without approval from David Stern. David Stern didn't seem to like Dell Demps and thought he was a lousy GM and that the trade was bad for the hornets.
David stern blocked the trade simple everybody saying he not a owner should do they research how can he suspend a owner then make it make sense
Imagine the Celtics with Reggie Lewis & Len Bias
Major danger
😢 I’m from Boston, I know
Lewis & Bias vs Jordan & Pippen ECF 👀
They would’ve had a good time together
Gil out here just making up facts.. 😂😂😂
Mf just out there talkin !!!!
The biggest what if is if kd stayed in okc or better yet never went to prime gsw
He should of went to the Cavs
@@jayburnham3994Celtics* would have changed his legacy and they still could have got Kyrie
Chris Paul wasn’t the president of the Players association in 2011. He started being president in 2013… So does that nullify his entire segment? It’s a clear False statement Gil made 😂😂
gil just made that whole story up
Gil lying 😂
Gil sounding like Katt lmk if I’m wrong 🤣🤣
I wish Jordan and Magic stayed for 1 more year... I wanted to see Jordan vs. Lebron and Magic vs. Iverson
Yuuup. Thank you for showing them the real reason
You believe that
This is not the reason Jennie buss explained this already
For the first time ever Gil is spitting FACTS
I was talking to a family member about this cp3 and kobe situation. It shows how the NBA has the say so, when they want to make a dynasty or preserve history however you want to look at it. Why leBron never had a great team around him his first 7 years on the Cavs?
Max contracts was not 12 mil a year back then Gil tried lol 😂
Big cap lol. I think Kobe and Dirk were maxed out at 23-25 that year. Lebron was getting 14 but he took a big pay cut
Lexi has a great narrator voice👍🏾👌🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥
Gil spitting on this one😂
Gil is a different breed, dude really is the true definition of an independent thinker.
It’s just that he knows this space better than any of us. Doesn’t mean he’s an independent thinker from anything he said. He’s just saying what actually happened.
As a grown man, and I’ve watched Gil’s podcast since 2016 or 2017, he has genuinely idiotic takes outside of basketball that make me question his sanity.
This is for entertainment sometimes he has good takes and sometimes he contradicts himself we listen to listen. I think you an independent thinker for posting that comment. 🙌🏾🔥
Bro Gilbert is absolutely right the trade was going to give the lakers cp3, d12 and 24 mil in cap space
@@Nickvanexel23people with no inside information swear they know what they’re talking about. It’s crazy
I think Jeanie Buss explained on all the smoke (I gotta rewatch again) saying that all the teams had a meeting or something but Stern wasn't present in the room so when they agreed to make the deal he caught the news on espn or somewhere which then he called her to tell her that he's declining the trade because it wasn't consulted to him first
I believe Dan Gilbert was one of the people who opposed that trade and LeBron and Boshhad left for Miami the previous season already which is why Dan was among those opposing it.
Gils a beast man!!
Gil, you're my favorite
Did they make you take off the Adidas and NBA logo on your court?
Cp3 wasn't the head of the players association at that time
As a fan of the NBA, seeing young Blake and CP3 was way more exciting. Hornets got Kamen who was an all star recently and Eric Gordon who was a beast his rookie year. Eric ended up getting injured for the year, I don't think he ever came back as explosive as he was at the Clippers and IU. Eric got turned into a 3 point shooter, which he was good at, but man he could have been a top guard in the league on the right team.
David ain’t Veto the trade, it was the cavs Gm and Mark Cuban really who complained about it not being fair. So David Stern had to fold because of the owners.
Exactly. I was looking for someone else to point this out.
Facts, Gilbert just lying
That’s what he said.
ITS ALL THEATER. Arenas is like the Dr. Shiva of the NBA
@6:45 - Michael Curry? Small forward on the Pistons? I'm in the process of watching it now, don't know if that's who they're talking about
Had to rewatch it bout 3 times to actually get what G talkin bout…That’s crazy…but no lie that’s business 💯
Yea i think a lot of ppl thinking like jennings after hearing this
Gil like the Joe Budden of the nba..they be saying he’s crazy..but he be making sense 😂
So basically just saying anything and calling it the truth lol
Na saying Wat everyone thinks but to afraid(paid) to say. Gil ain’t here make everyone feel good, same reason we fw Joe 💯
@@cookiemonster64nah, he just don’t cater to the popular opinions. The kind the casuals usually agree with, like you.
@@nate8604 what are you babbling about everyone is like gil you wrong lol bro double down on his lie
@@nate86044:01 the man said the Lakers could have gotten Lebron & Bosh when they were already in Miami. He got the years mixed up.
Ppl not knowing how contracts & the entertainment business works makes yall look ignorant.
We can respect Gil & call him out for making mistakes
It was Dan Gilbert Michael Jordan and Mark Cuban. Dan Gilbert wrote a letter to start it
Lakers governor Jeanie Buss would later reveal the trade collapsed due to miscommunication between Stern and Dell Demps, New Orleans' general manager at the time. The league-owned the Hornets when, Buss said, Demps sanctioned Paul's trade without the seal of approval from Stern. Dec 8, 2023
That ain't how I remember it Gil. Also Boston got KG and Ray Allen, and then the Heatles.
Gil I appreciate the information but they weren’t going to consider getting rid of Kobe and added 2 max players but the fact that they could have added 1 is enough to solidify Kobe would have gotten that 6th and 7th ring.
Worst thing about Marc doing that is they had just won the championship and swept the Lakers so he was being greedy and thinking Mavs potential dynasty.
No Max player was getting 12-14 million..Lebron and Bosh signed for 6yrs 110 million in 2010…Gil my mane and I’m usually rocking with his takes majority of the time but his math a lil off
His math is all the way off
His math not off bron sign for 14 million I don’t see your point
If Bron signed for 6 years how Bron leave as a free agent in 4 years.
Those 2 options don’t count has obligation.
Btw both Bron and Bosh signed with Miami for 14.5 million. So the math is adding up
Stop thinking literal. In theory you can get two superstars for 12 a piece with the notion of higher chance of winning, you’re on the lakers, you don’t think the extra incentives from being in LA ain’t enticing? You don’t think dudes would jump on that? They can make that extra 2 mil just off endorsement deals in championships
The truth has come out
Don’t listen to this bullshit 💯
@@acexgoatedfacts people thinks he’s the truth because he’s the loudest in the room.
bruh gil is so wrong and im not even a lakers fan and know this lmaoo
@Roadrunner0077 I kno & everyone on the couch just has to listen to him lie to them like he's always right
Protect Gil !
Of course Gil gotta throw himself in it lmaoo
A Big 3 of Kobe, CP3 & Dwight would’ve been insane
Gil talkin that ish 😂😂😂😂
1:12 😅😅😅😅😅
Only seen a couple of Gils videos... this probably the last. Blatantly making stuff up on the hoof
The Cavs owner freaked out Anna talked other owners against it. David stern was just the front man for the owners.
It amazes me how confident Gil is sometimes saying things that are completely inaccurate. It’s been said already but it was the GM that put that trade together.
It isn't inaccurate it's true.
The GM of the time approved the trade, and it's true that David Stern was both the commissioner and acting owner of the team, and it's true that he vetoed the trade as the acting owner of the Hornets. It's also true that complaints from the other owners is what prompted him to veto the trade. See how both can be correct at the same time?
All you have to do is google "Dan Gilbert letter to David Stern Chris Paul Trade." While you're at it google "Mark Cuban oppose Chris Paul trade."
Not only is Google a free tool you all refuse to use, you don't even listen well enough to know when to do so.
Gil was saying what most unions do , that real talk
The Cuban and his number crunching and his letter to Stern. Same as Dan Gilbert letter to back that notion. That was not a secret. Trade was poor timing (small teams meeting just happened)
This keeps coming up ppl have no idea what they're talking about new Orleans had no majority owner the trade was vetoed because the lakers would have gotten Chris paul, sign howard in the off season save 40 mill and not give up draft picks. The other owners said it would have been unfair
Gil will be so passionate about things he knows he don’t know
Thanks for finally exposing that trade! I've always wondered about that
whats brandon problem with chris paul lol
i be wondering the same thing 😂😂😂
Somebody on the internet put this information out years ago 😂
If what Gil is saying is true 1. Why is this the first time anyone is hearing it and 2. There would've been so many what if scenarios surrounding that trade. Yeah there were none because what he is saying is absolutely incorrect. Stern didn't purpose this trade and he probably just blindly signed his name on paperwork because *NEWSFLASH* he wasn't the owner. The NBA was. He was just a figure head so stock holders and potential buyers were reassured that someone was monitoring the team.
Whats crazy is i remember someone said this before. Like the year after CP3 got to the lakers the numbers would have been interesting super super team on the Lakers... Shout out to Chris Paul for not selling out 👀🤙🏾
Gil be exposing the truth 😂😂😂😂
Dell Demps made the trade but didnt receive approval from David Stern. David Stern didn't seem to like Dell Demps and thought he was a lousy GM and that the trade was bad for the hornets.
What made it bad that it was vetoed was the fact that Chris Paul was still traded just a week later to the clippers for a bag of chips.
Shorty ass looking good as hell over there
Shit don’t start making sense until 6:00 or so. Before that the build up is off lmao
Because of that current situation the league owners stopped the trade, remember the Lakers is probably the most hated team in the NBA
Mfs just be saying anything like we weren’t there in real time
Gil might be right about the amount of cap space but not that they could sign 2 max players. The max at the time was about 20M
Gilbert "Trust me bro" Arenas strikes again 😂😂😂.
Omg!!!! This hurts as a Kobe Laker fan .. Laker USA team
The previous owner tried to negotiate the trade. After NBA took over, David Stern stopped the trade.
There was interim GM for the Hornets, some black dude and Stern never “VETOED” the trade, he’s said this in interviews.
Gil made half that shit up. The Chris Paul thing was 2011-12. Bosh and Bron were FAs in 2010. This guy tries to act smart lol making up shit. I used to be a fan 😂
the names are wrong but the idea should be correct. LA would have had a 1 to 2-year window to stack up on stars before moving off of Dwight.
He’s using Lebron and Bosh as examples he didn’t mean they would get them specifically a lot of y’all for stupid as hell for not realizing this.
He got so much mixed up
@@jareljones3911dont suck his dick too hard, Melo was still on the table to use as an example. Giving him that gawk gawk 5000 because you too afraid to say this man couldn’t explain himself better
10:00 Jennings wilding I wouldn’t be surprise if the mason get him on some humiliation ritual 😂😂😂😂
That is the biggest what if in the NBA. Kobe was the MVP, LA was the best team, NOLA CP3 was 2nd in MVP voting, and a top 5 player at the time.
wrong, the president of the NBPA at the time was not CP3, it was Derek Fisher.
The lakers weren’t going after another max player they were looking to sign role players to fill the roster if that trade went through.
If you watched NBA back then, you already knew the extra money stuff but regardless, Kobe wouldn’t have even wanted two max stars along with Paul and Dwight. They could’ve signed ONE max player but they would have just revamped good role players to complete the team. Maybe battier and some others
Gilbert Arenas is so real .
Thats not what happened... the Hornets GM wanted to make the trade, but the NBA had the final say and claimed the trade was not in the best interest of the Hornets...
Jeanie Buss detailed the reasons for the trade Veto and if you watch the Hulu Lakers Doc they go into detail also.
It’s funny people still keep trying to add and revise what happened with this trade.
The biggest thing Jeanie Buss stated about the trade was that the deal was done. But someone opened their mouth in the Lakers front office and other GMs/owners like Mark Cuban and Dan Gilbert caught wind and started complaining because they weren’t able to try to put together their own trade packages… and the lockout had just ended like the day before… and the other owners begged Stern to Kill the deal. David stern didn’t initiate the trade. The lakers weren’t eyeing Cap space and they damn sure wasn’t gonna move Kobe at the time lol