Archery Review Arrow Comparison - Budget VS Expensive Arrows | Easton FMJ, Victory, Gold Tip

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  • @SamuelWhiteArchery
    @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +14

    What arrows should I look at next? You decide!
    www.StrongShotArchery.com

    • @ObelixCMM
      @ObelixCMM Před 5 lety

      It would be nice to see how Victory TKO line compares to "regular" line.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      Thanks man! I'll definitely be looking into that

    • @zachbuckley4842
      @zachbuckley4842 Před 5 lety +2

      Another popular brand to consider adding to the mix is Beman Arrows.

    • @primal_inc
      @primal_inc Před 5 lety +1

      Hey Albert Einstein you did a great job on this video

    • @jameshobbs3948
      @jameshobbs3948 Před 5 lety +1

      Deer crossing archery

  • @Sportsmans_Warehouse
    @Sportsmans_Warehouse Před 5 lety +86

    Our in-house arrows are made by Gold Tip

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +9

      Thanks guys!

    • @sikhbhavikh3232
      @sikhbhavikh3232 Před 3 lety +1

      I bought a pack of 6 SW Ballistic Hunter for $36.99 400 spine 8.2 GPI 2” vanes at 28.5. They are made by Gold Tip. They are only “ok” and tend to be flyers mostly spiral down to the left(I have it on video) Looking into building my own or getting the Gold Tip Velocity or Pro series arrows. I’m a Hunter using 50#-60# bow and 28” 400 spline 125 broadheads. Trying to tune in a decent arrow setup that I’m confident in getting a hunt at 20-40yards in Utah mountains.

    • @leviharrison4127
      @leviharrison4127 Před 3 lety

      @@sikhbhavikh3232 Check out the gold tip Hunter XT, have had a lot of success with them. Ended up being a little over $100 so they're pricey but buy once cry once.

    • @texassportsman5880
      @texassportsman5880 Před 2 lety +3

      There you go. Store brand arrows aren't cheap. You make them sound like a low quality product made without the same care as name brand product.
      I suspect that Blackout arrows are made by company that makes more expensive arrows.
      When producing a review video the words you use can change the original message you intended.
      So how about using the word 'inexpensive' in place of cheap.
      Think of it this way. Lexus is a Toyota luxury brand. If a guy buys a Corolla instead of a Lexus is he buying a product that cannot be trusted? If a guy buys a Toyota forva long distance trio will he be better off if he blows his wad on a Lexus?
      The Lexus comes with leather, impressive sound system, sound deadening from road noise and the Corolla does not. Does that mean the guy who buys the Corolla is screwed because he didn't buy a Lexus.
      There's so much ego out there. Guys smacking down other guys because they didn't blow a house payment on the same equipment they did.
      Internet forums, YT videos and out at the range guys are afraid to show up for fear of not having the right equipment.
      This alone can prevent new generations of new people taking up hunting, fishing, hiking, motorcycling or any other outdoor activity.
      My dad bought just about everything used. He bought a used rifle. An old Remington .30-06 pump with open sights. He shot a 12 pt. at 200 yards and just about everyone else didn't believe he made a shot like that without a scope. He did.
      Inexpensive products are for people who don't make $65/hr plus triple time for holidays but deserve quality equipment on a budget.

    • @casanovafrankenstein8875
      @casanovafrankenstein8875 Před rokem

      @@texassportsman5880 🤣

  • @jamescooper2618
    @jamescooper2618 Před 5 lety +23

    The only thing that really matters is if they look really cool.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety +1

      True, that's the defining factor of all my purchases, lol! Thanks for watching James

  • @mattameo95
    @mattameo95 Před 3 lety +9

    Thank you so much for doing this, it must have taken you forever, and it saved me hours upon hours of reading opinions on forums.

  • @nikolaushusar82
    @nikolaushusar82 Před 5 lety +12

    I think it would be interesting to see a flight/grouping test in addition to the data

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +2

      Hey Nikolaus, the arrow flight/groupings for the arrows should be fairly relative to the stats that I gave in the review, but that would be an awesome addition to the videos! The problem is, there are so many other factors that determine flight and groupings. For example: rest positioning, spine, foc, etc. So it would be almost impossible to keep it fair for every arrow. If I can find a way to make an apples to apples comparison, I will definitely add that to the reviews. Thanks for watching and for the great idea!

  • @craigbrewer433
    @craigbrewer433 Před rokem +3

    I got Easton Pro Hunters for my first batch of arrows. After destroying almost half, I wanted something cheaper for practice sessions. Got some literal no name arrows at Walmart for $3 each. They shot better than the Easton's. I ended up clearing the local Walmart of that particular arrow on my next trip.

  • @MrChulaFreak
    @MrChulaFreak Před 5 lety +4

    Best unbiased bow and/or arrow reviews out there!

  • @TheBudgetSportsman
    @TheBudgetSportsman Před 5 lety +3

    I’ve watched a few of your videos in the past but I’m always a “slow to subscribe guy.” This video won me over. Can’t wait to see the results of the big name arrows.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      Thank you so much! I've actually been subbed to you for a while now. I'm patiently waiting for your channel to blow up - I know it's coming. Keep up the great work!

    • @TheBudgetSportsman
      @TheBudgetSportsman Před 5 lety

      Samuel White Thanks for following along and your kind words. I’ve been away from home for 5 weeks now so the videos have been a little slow...but they are coming soon.

  • @BennyCFD
    @BennyCFD Před 5 lety +1

    Depends on what your using them for. Backyard, competition, hunting, or just plinking around.

  • @sethalbert1239
    @sethalbert1239 Před 4 lety +2

    I bought the sheels and they shoot great. Instantly improved my groups.

  • @TheLindseyWay
    @TheLindseyWay Před 5 lety +2

    great review man, thanks for taking the time to do this! makes us feel good about our choice of Victory Archery!

  • @NicholasSanchez814
    @NicholasSanchez814 Před 5 lety +8

    I watched the video and this is a great set of data; however, I wish the elite level victory shaft was compared to an FMJ match grade or another .001 straightness shaft like the gold tip pro hunter series. I think this would make for a more apples to apples comparison.

    • @sbryce66
      @sbryce66 Před 5 lety +2

      Agreed! Just the regular fmj’s have a +/- .002 straightness so there’s gonna be a little difference in consistency and straightness

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +1

      Hey Nicholas, thanks for watching and for the great feedback! The FMJ Match grade will 100% be in a future video. You're completely right, I'm looking forward to the more apples to apples comparison as well.

    • @jonathanrollins7292
      @jonathanrollins7292 Před 4 lety

      Totally agree, the Vap elite is Victory's equivalent of the Easton Match Grade FMJ

  • @leroyjones769
    @leroyjones769 Před 5 lety +2

    Young man.. you have a very bright future ahead of you in whatever you pursue

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      Thank you Leroy, I really appreciate that!

    • @TheIngoBeck
      @TheIngoBeck Před 5 lety

      I'm gonna guess it's somewhere in the archery industry. 👍

  • @brayls2
    @brayls2 Před 5 lety +2

    Great content! I bought a six pack of the Vindetta arrows on a whim from Scheels a while back. They fly as good as my Velocities and almost as well as my Carbon Injections. I was pretty surprised..now I know why.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      Haha! That's awesome. I was extremely surprised on their performance as well. They were super impressive for their price. Thanks for watching Ben!

  • @taggardhecker6380
    @taggardhecker6380 Před 5 lety +2

    Great job Sam! Thanks for the insight! For a young guy you keep doing what you’re doing!

  • @teamflanneloutdoors5631
    @teamflanneloutdoors5631 Před 5 lety +2

    Yet another quality review from this channel witch I truly appreciate. With that said where are Victory arrows manufactured?
    As an American born and bred hunter I prefer to spend my money on Made In America arrows and archery products.
    Invest in America Patriotism- support American archery.

    • @donkeykong2087
      @donkeykong2087 Před 5 lety

      I 100% agree with you victory is made in korea. That is one of the selling points at our shop. We try to sell all American made arrows, bows, and other equipment. I also mentioned the diameter of the fmj automatically makes it a better arrow for penetration.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety +2

      Thank you again, I really appreciate the support! I believe one of the only arrow companies that manufacture in the US is Easton.

  • @jthepickle7
    @jthepickle7 Před 7 měsíci

    Nicely done.
    @ $65 per dozen, the Bass Pro Blackout X5 Envy was a good deal. The arrows were cut to length, and inserts glued in for free. As a relative beginner, I can't complain. After two months all the arrows are intact...even the three I've lost, I guess!

  • @jamesz9139
    @jamesz9139 Před 4 lety

    Neat coincidence: I watched your video comparison exactly a year to the day after you posted it. I've been hunting with Easton FMJs for about 10 years. I actually prefer the N-fused version, which seem slightly more durable. Some have gone through deer and stuck in the ground; then with some cleaning, a new broadhead, and occasionally, re-fletching, I've been able to use them multiple times. That helps defray the cost of--as you rightly pointed out--rather expensive arrows. That said; I'll definitely have to give the Victory and Scheel's arrows a closer look! Thanks for the review!

  • @ObelixCMM
    @ObelixCMM Před 5 lety +3

    Great job Sam, looking forward to higher end arrows comparison!

  • @TWestOutdoors
    @TWestOutdoors Před 5 lety +1

    I've bought 7 dozen carbon hunter arrows from cabelas over the last 5 years. And have killed over 25 deer with them. In that 7 dozen I have only found 4 arrows that were to bad to fly straight at 40 yards. I really think you got a bad box of them. I check every arrow that goes into my quiver and practice arrows. These are all around great hunting arrows for the price. I have one arrow that has killed 5 deer and it's still in my quiver. That arrow still has original fletching ready for number 6. Great channel and reviews man. I would like to see another test on the cabelas carbon hunter in the future. Good luck this season.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety

      I'll definitely be retesting more Carbon Hunters in the future and build up the sample size. I want to make sure I'm fair to all of the arrows that I test. Thanks for watching!

    • @jeremybledsoe8886
      @jeremybledsoe8886 Před 4 lety

      Most hunters can not out shoot the cheaper store branded arrows. Most target shooters can’t either. What I mean is that the expensive highest quality arrows are overkill for the average archer.
      I would like to see a shot comparison out of a hooter shooter. That way it is a true comparison taking the human element out of the equation. Also done at multiple distances to see at what point the quality starts to be a factor.
      Props to Samuel, well done video!

  • @billwhisnant8003
    @billwhisnant8003 Před 4 lety

    thanks for the work you always try to make the comparisons as fare as possible. haven't received them yet but ordered the vendettas .I will let you know.

  • @thomaslenhart832
    @thomaslenhart832 Před 5 lety +2

    I shoot the vendetta pro 350 grain and I love them, never tuned them and they fly amazing

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      Those performed incredible on my tests! Great choice. Thanks for watching the video, I really appreciate it

    • @thomaslenhart832
      @thomaslenhart832 Před 5 lety +1

      Samuel White no problem keep up the good content and u sir need more subs for how good it is!!!

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      I'll keep at it! Thank you!

  • @superveggito2000
    @superveggito2000 Před 3 lety

    I just got into archery and I'm glad I saw this! I haven't invested too much into any arrows yet so thanks for the info and research!

    • @fahlvfaust677
      @fahlvfaust677 Před 3 lety

      Skylon 4.2mm id..deer crossing 4.2mm id..love small diameter arrow..i can't take fat shaft

  • @scottbpac
    @scottbpac Před 4 lety +1

    Took your recommendations; went with the Scheels Vendetta Pros; got them on sale for $35 a box. Really like how they shoot. Would put the, up against many others. I normally shoot Black Eagle Carnivores and really like them but I wouldn’t hesitate to use the Vendetta hunting or target shooting. Great arrow for the price. Thanks for the info.

    • @jakemoon639
      @jakemoon639 Před 3 lety

      I am new to the world of compound bows and I'm glad I watched this video before buying my arrows... I also just ordered the Scheels Vendetta Pros... I'll report back also :)

  • @fireplug2629
    @fireplug2629 Před rokem

    You have to do this annually. With Archery consistency is key and knowing and see this data year over year would be great and fun content to boot.

  • @twintwo1429
    @twintwo1429 Před 2 lety

    I've never had any problems hunting or in 3D, and I've always used the cheapest arrows I can find, wood or aluminum from clearance sales, flea markets, yard sales, etc. I clean the shafts and rebuild them. I love it when I place at 3D, or take a deer with my $4 arrows. Yes, many people pay way to much for arrows of any kind these days. Too many of them on the used market, and straight is straight, no matter what its made of.

  • @toddandangelbrowning2920
    @toddandangelbrowning2920 Před 5 lety +1

    I bought a dozen blackout envy 5. I have absolutely no problems or dislikes about them.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety

      I'm definitely going to be testing the implications of these differences in quality, so look out for that future video. Thanks for watching!

  • @BassWhoopinFishingTeam
    @BassWhoopinFishingTeam Před 5 lety +1

    I rock Gold Tip Hunter XT 300 spines with my HOYT REDWRX RX-3. I think they are pretty darn affordable when you buy in bulk. In my opinion there are a lot of good choices. Find what works for you and rock them. But like anything else, you get what you pay for. I don’t cheap out on arrows.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety +1

      You're completely right, it's all about finding what works for you and sticking with it. Thanks for watching!

  • @theamputeehunter2074
    @theamputeehunter2074 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for doing this video I’ve bought a dozen of the Scheels Vendetta Pro Arrows and thanks to this video I got some good arrows for cheap your awesome please keep up doing what your doing

  • @kylebailey8498
    @kylebailey8498 Před 2 lety

    I really appreciate the videos I’m trying the vendetta pros out was gonna buy some victory rip but with this video something like the vendetta pros made by victory is right up my ally!! Thanks again

  • @jthomasstthomas
    @jthomasstthomas Před 5 lety +1

    Damn...awesome video. You’re the real deal. I’m new to archery but work in data and measurements. Nicely done and smart.

  • @Aubart
    @Aubart Před 4 lety +1

    You should do a video on how snow/rain effects the shot of an arrow. I consistently hunt in snow and raining conditions and can’t imagine how much the water sitting on the arrow changes the flight. I think it would be a good real world test, and basically throws out any idea of floating and tuning arrows.

    • @DontInterruptMeCunt
      @DontInterruptMeCunt Před 11 měsíci

      Did or would you trust them into hunt whitetail with? If so what did you get..I bought some before since I'm still learning and have been tempted to get more but I keep hearing hunt with what you practice with..buy 12 weed out the stray flyers..

  • @ponycentaur1456
    @ponycentaur1456 Před 5 lety +14

    get some REAL budget arrows. The ones you buy from 'amazon' or 'wish' websites
    The kind that are less than 15 dollars for a pack, despite saying they can do better than brand arrows.

    • @GrizzAxxemann
      @GrizzAxxemann Před 5 lety +7

      Now THIS would be something I'd like to see. Those cheapie Chinesium arrows have me a little leery about them blowing up in my face. Kind of like the cheap Chinesium ammo that seems to be so popular when it's available in Canada.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety +7

      I'm on it ;)

    • @stoutlager6325
      @stoutlager6325 Před 4 lety +1

      That should make an interesting video as I expect the quality range to be pretty wide all at around same price. I have tried a set of Chinese made Amazon purchased discount carbon arrows, 400 spine for my 50# recurve. Result? The shafts were okay, straightness and weight consistent. Fletching awful, nocks fine (knockoff easton design), included target points also fine. The only thing strange I noticed about the shafts was the behaviour of the carbon when stripping off the stock fletching. It would comes off in long slivers sometimes when running a razor blade down the length of them. Name brand carbon arrows don't do that. No impact on performance from that though. Six months semi-daily use and I haven't snapped one yet.

  • @troywesterbur706
    @troywesterbur706 Před rokem

    I have been using gold tip hunters. My FMJ’s suck. I don’t trust them. I have broken them first shot in my 3d target. I know I got a bad batch but at that price I will never buy them again. So I have to say I am not surprised. Great video.

  • @mec5texan803
    @mec5texan803 Před 4 lety

    Wow a very well put together video, and informative to boot. You just earned a subscription my friend... well done

  • @FrankPace54
    @FrankPace54 Před 5 lety +2

    I would like to see a showdown on traditional arrows for recurved and hybrids bows 🎯

  • @kfirbehar6720
    @kfirbehar6720 Před 5 lety +3

    Awesome! Though I would like to see the raw data too.
    As a target archer I would like to see some more high-end arrow comparisons, though I do understand this may not be possible budget wise.
    Also, I would like to know what methods you used to determine everything, did you check spine around shaft, or just at one point?
    Did you check outside straightness only? or inside as well? (from my experience a lot of arrows are straight on the outside, but the hole is not concentric, and the components wobble, this usually happens in ultra micro shafts like x10s and CE nanos, probably because the wall is so thick).
    How was consistency calculated?
    Anyway, this is a great initiative! Maybe do stabilizers next?

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +2

      I've gotten a ton of requests for me to share some of the data, so expect that in the upcoming videos! I'll be going more into my methodology at some point.
      You're completely right, the budget is thin at the moment, but expect some target arrows in the future. I'm a target archer as well, so I'm extremely curious to see the results. Thanks for watching!

  • @gabefirstraised1373
    @gabefirstraised1373 Před 5 lety +14

    Dude how do you not have more subscribers!? If you're someone who shoots a bow, subscribe!

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +1

      Haha! I appreciate it man. I'll keep the videos coming and we'll see how things go.

    • @renatugaming5730
      @renatugaming5730 Před 3 lety

      I think the same here, there is always a need for someone to make things simpler, for arrow reviews, I think the cake goes to him.

  • @gregcandor2562
    @gregcandor2562 Před 5 lety +1

    Keep the videos coming, I’m enjoying!

  • @bhuff1024
    @bhuff1024 Před 5 lety +8

    Great video. Any way to actually see the data? I would actually be interested in it

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety

      A ton of people asked for that so I'm going to be sharing a lot more data in my future reviews! Thanks for watching and for the great the feedback Ben.

    • @bhuff1024
      @bhuff1024 Před 4 lety

      @@SamuelWhiteArchery I was actually hoping to see the raw data you recorded. I'm currently doing my masters in mechanical engineering and would like to analyze the data to make some correlations to other physical behavior of both the arrow and the bow.

  • @calibowhunter1998
    @calibowhunter1998 Před 5 lety +1

    I shot the blackout arrows for years before I decided to go with the FMJs. I killed plenty of deer and animals with the blackouts. And have killed a bucks with the FMJs now. I'm no professional Archer. However all the arrows work great. Shoot them and be confident with your equipment.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +1

      I think you got it exactly right. These arrows only vary in the thousandths, and it's unlikely that the majority of people would see much of a difference. But what it really comes down to is confidence in your equipment. Knowing your arrows are the best they can be can have a large effect on an archers mental game (which directly relates to their performance). Thanks for watching and for the great comment!

  • @brianlapoint4945
    @brianlapoint4945 Před 3 lety

    Your amazement on the results amuse me. You're obviously very good at archery and this was a great review. I don't know your backstory, but welcome to life like everyone else! Lol.
    Before the internet, we had to go from store to store, talking to tons of people, all of course, who had their own preference and expertise. We had to read magazines and in the end, just had to do a ton of trial and error.
    As far as the price vs quality? Yeah, your amazement is a result of namebranditis. Sure 100 for 6 better be damn great for that much. But the rest of us, the broke-ass masses that shoot at a homemade target in the backyard on the weekends, those 3-4 buck arrows do just fine.

  • @jeremystrader02
    @jeremystrader02 Před 5 lety +3

    You should review the full black eagle line of arrows! I personally hunt with the carnivores and would be interested in your thoughts on them!

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety +1

      I just recently got my hands on the Black Eagle Rampage arrows, and without spoiling anything, they were pretty dang solid! Expect plenty of Black Eagles in the future. Thanks for watching Jeremy!

  • @bornepatrol
    @bornepatrol Před 5 lety

    Victory VAPs I’ve tested with a RAM tester show very similar results. All come in under for straightness and spine deflection and weight tolerance in a pack was fantastic. The only issue I’d with buying dozens of sets over the years in the sports and elites we’ve found in pack variation is minimal. Between packs we could have a few grains variance on raw arrow weight at full length. But still all spine and straightness were great box to box

    • @TheIngoBeck
      @TheIngoBeck Před 5 lety

      That's true. Victory's sorting is excellent. I've bought many dozens of Victory arrows and the weight consistency is always near perfect within a dozen but the packs have varied about 5 grains extreme spread. With built arrows I only end up with a .5-.75gr extreme spread in weight per matched dozen. I have found that V-force Gamers cut to my CTC length (28") have enough straighteness consistency to not have any visible wobble on an arrow spinner with a broadhead excepting maybe 1-2 culls per dozen. I cut from both ends.

  • @interwebzful
    @interwebzful Před 4 lety

    especially liked the side note about sample size. thanks. sincerely, a scientist

  • @ShockingTips
    @ShockingTips Před 3 lety

    Just ordered the vendetta pros for 35 (labor day sale) can't wait to see how the fly.

  • @peterxyz3541
    @peterxyz3541 Před 2 lety

    Victory is Mitsubishi carbon, the very carbon tubes in golf clubs. My fav arrows will always be Victory & Easton. Also, I think WallyWorld arrows might be Victory contracted arrows….I don’t have confirmation.

  • @degoody
    @degoody Před 5 lety +1

    Gold tip also makes the Vital Impact arrows for Sportsman's Warehouse

  • @justmeva
    @justmeva Před 4 lety

    Great job on producing the data. I'm very surprised at how well the Victory arrows did over the FMJ's. I have been using the Easton arrows for some time now and I thought that I was getting very good results. I have been experimenting with the VAP line - but I am experiencing a mixed bag of results. I probably have to adjust my bow to the VAP series of arrows.

  • @rx1hunter896
    @rx1hunter896 Před 5 lety

    That was a great comparison video, just goes to show that the FMJ’s I shoot are still the best arrows but you can get a quality arrow with the lesser brands and save a boat load of money. Great job. 👍🏹🦌

    • @optimuscrime608
      @optimuscrime608 Před 5 lety

      john Buck FMJs are trash. They bend. Go test them after you shoot them for a day. Straightness is gone. Don’t believe me. Do it

    • @rx1hunter896
      @rx1hunter896 Před 5 lety +1

      I’ve been using FMJ’s for 14 years and they are good for me, thanks. 👍🏹

    • @optimuscrime608
      @optimuscrime608 Před 5 lety

      john Buck then don’t switch. But I’m telling you they aren’t even close to the best arrows

  • @Kylejohn33
    @Kylejohn33 Před 5 lety +6

    I was thinking the budget arrows you were going to test were the $2-$5 arrows from Walmart. I'd like to see results from them.

  • @benjamincooper8531
    @benjamincooper8531 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm going to be using the victory rip gamers for hunting this year. I've been happy with them so far. Really all of the of the victory arrows I've tried have been great.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +1

      I definitely need to get those to compare to the Elites. I'm curious to see how much of a difference there would be. I wouldn't be surprised if they are close, if not just as good. Thanks for watching the videos Benjamin! I've been seeing your name in a lot of my posts, I really appreciate it.

    • @benjamincooper8531
      @benjamincooper8531 Před 5 lety +1

      The gamers really are hard to beat. Once I get them tuned to the bow they're capable of such good accuracy that I would have a hard time justifying the extra cost of the elites. Granted I'm not a professional shooter, just an enthusiast who tries to shoot like the pros by watching them a lot haha. Someone like yourself might notice a difference. And no problem! I really enjoy your content.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +1

      I'll see if I can get my hands on them to test! I respect what you're doing. That's how everybody starts, so keep at it, keep practicing, and keep testing, and you'll be there soon. Thanks for the consistent support Benjamin! Do you go by Ben?

    • @benjamincooper8531
      @benjamincooper8531 Před 5 lety

      @@SamuelWhiteArchery you're welcome! Yeah I normally go by Ben.

  • @vinnyM30
    @vinnyM30 Před 5 lety +2

    First off...great video. Very honest Nd straight forward. I was wondering if you could also test the bass pro X1 arrows. They re little more expensive than the 3 and 5 that you tested but supposedly have excellent tolerances. I've been using them and am interested in what you will find and if they are comparable or even worth the money

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      Those are definitely on the to-do list so that video will be coming at some point. I'm extremely curious as well. Thanks for the support and watching the videos! I really appreciate it.

  • @jameslewis1179
    @jameslewis1179 Před 5 lety +3

    I want to know what idiot gave it a thumbs down. Looking forward to seeing you in PA for archery season!!!

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +1

      Lollll probably one of my competitors. I absolutely can't wait!

    • @LeadDispenser45
      @LeadDispenser45 Před 5 lety +3

      A dumb ass troll! Samuels reviews are top notch and way up there with the best of them for quality data and examples... if you have haters means your doin it right homie! 👍🏼🙌🏼💪🏼

    • @rayking3466
      @rayking3466 Před 5 lety

      Some guy that shoots Carbon Express and is pissed that even Sportsmans Warehouse won't buy and rebrand them.

    • @LeadDispenser45
      @LeadDispenser45 Před 5 lety

      @@rayking3466 🤣🤣

  • @user-tz2dd6nb1i
    @user-tz2dd6nb1i Před 5 lety +2

    You should shoot the best arrow vs the worst arrow so we can see what the difference is down range.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety +1

      That's definitely on the to-do list! I'm curious to see the implications of the differences in quality as well. Thanks for watching!

  • @squid0013
    @squid0013 Před 5 lety +1

    Being aluninum the fmj will take a bend over time. The other problem with the fmj is its just too darn heavy. You are wasting weight that could be used for foc and improved momentum on the business end

  • @benjaminjacobson1826
    @benjaminjacobson1826 Před 5 lety +2

    I shot fmj for about 3 years and i loved them but my local bow shop stopped carrying them so i tried some cheap arrows and they shot great but had horrible penetratetion compared to the fmj

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +1

      That would be great if I could potentially do a penetration video far in the future and see how arrows compare!

  • @angelduncan9147
    @angelduncan9147 Před 4 lety

    My husband and I just bought 2 dozen Sportsman's Warehouse Vital Impact arrows (a dozen in 300 and a dozen in 600) and just ONE vane out of all of these arrows has the Gold Tip logo stamped on it. Maybe that will help in the research of "who makes the Vital Impact"? We have been shooting VAP Gamers for about 2 years. My husband got tired of them bowing up in his PSE Evolve 35 despite the fact that he's got the correct spine (according to VAP!) And I just wanted a new "beater arrow" with a "normal" diameter shaft for local 3D stuff so that I wouldn't be so up tight about losing one on course. (we have a course designer who loves to set up "window shots" between tree branches or rock formations.) We have both been pleasantly surprised at how WELL these "cheap" arrows are performing! We are both getting very tight groupings out to 50 yards! (that's as far as we need to shoot for the local club comp).

  • @MattMacKo
    @MattMacKo Před 2 lety

    I still have several Cabelas Stalker Extreme 55/70 2in Blazer Flights. I'm not sure i ever cut them. And they slap

  • @1nestly
    @1nestly Před 5 lety +6

    Enjoy the mechanical testing, but I'd love to see you shoot groups with them and see if the straightness/consistency ratings translate into groups size.

    • @NorthRiverGuide
      @NorthRiverGuide Před 5 lety +1

      That would be interesting for sure, although I dont think many people would have it. With such tight tolerances the difference in .001 and .006 is negligible to the vast majority of archers and would most likely show little difference if any, unless of course the test was stacked in favour of a tighter tolerance arrow by using tiny target fletch and a very low FOC, where the straightness is relied upon to keep the arrow tracking true.
      A fair practical comparison would be a very good watch!

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety +1

      Hey Nestly, love your videos by the way! I wouldn't be able to test this for every arrow/brand since there are too many underlying factors, but I should be able to tell if I compared 1 type of arrow. This could actually let us see the implications of these small differences. Keep a look out for that video in the future. Thanks for watching!

  • @mikechilders5898
    @mikechilders5898 Před 4 lety

    I shoot Easton aftermaths good quality arrow for the price. Spine and weight were good and the fly nice

  • @mikerocke5135
    @mikerocke5135 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for this dude! I’m struggling to find a good arrow that fits my budget

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      Of course Mike! I'll have a ton more of these arrow reviews coming soon, so I hope they can help you out. Let me know if there are any arrows that you'd like to see. I'll see if I can potentially get my hands on them.

  • @Cal_Sned6
    @Cal_Sned6 Před 3 lety +1

    I love the cabela's stalker extreme

  • @wapitifit
    @wapitifit Před 5 lety +3

    And to be fair the FMJ wasnt a match grade so the weights and straightness wouldn't be as on point as the victorys version of the match grade the "elite"

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety

      Very true, I'll see if I can get my hands on the FMJ Match Grade soon!

  • @TheRealElmoSkateTeam
    @TheRealElmoSkateTeam Před rokem

    I know it's a 3 yr old video but vital impact is either gold tip or Easton depending on if it's sportsmans wear house or just vital impact

  • @ravenshield56
    @ravenshield56 Před 4 lety

    You sir are a fucking legend.
    Coming from the guitar world, we get 10000’s of ‘vs’ videos yet this community seems to be lacking from what I’ve seen.
    Keep it up
    Cheers mate!

  • @doncampbell1961
    @doncampbell1961 Před rokem

    I worked with a couple vendors that told me this; Most Arrows from this company come from the same factory, they are all the same. Just different labels. They are cut then measured for straightness. The straighter the more money. 90 percent of Hunters can not outshoot the worst arrow. High level Target Archers maybe. I worked for a company with the initials BPS one of the sales vendor was from NAP. True or not I can not say . Just throwing out what two people told me.

  • @XMetalChefX
    @XMetalChefX Před 2 lety

    Shoot what you use... Best advice I ever got as well as the most backhanded thing I have evwr been told 🤣

  • @themasterhammer
    @themasterhammer Před 5 lety

    I have personally had much better luck hunting with with the FMJs over the Scheels Vendetta Pro. Might be a point difference between the two but beyond being able to hit a target the other important factor is what happens down range. Great vid!

    • @5jjt
      @5jjt Před 5 lety

      How so? Can you please explain what you mean by that?

  • @davidstonkus3288
    @davidstonkus3288 Před 5 lety +2

    Excellent video. Very informative. Could you please do the same for crossbow bolts.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety

      I've had a few people ask about crossbow bolts so that might be a future addition to the reviews! Thanks for watching David

    • @davidstonkus3288
      @davidstonkus3288 Před 4 lety

      @@SamuelWhiteArchery It's a pleasure to watch an in depth review of archery equipment. Nutnfancy covers many other outdoor gear in a similar fashion but has never touched archery gear. Thanks for filling the void.

  • @blazeice111
    @blazeice111 Před 5 lety +1

    You have the most detailed, informative archery videos I've ever seen. My buddy and I are very impressed. just got done watching your release video. Would you advocate specifically for a trigger release when it comes to hunting then? This is a great video for arrows. I'm going to use this for my dad who insists on letting the archery shop give him Beman arrows. do you think after doing these tests, you could actually shoot these arrows at let us see how the variations materialize downrange? That would be VERY cool

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +1

      Hey Nick, thank you so much for watching! Tell your buddy that I said thanks as well. In regard to the release, that purely comes down to personal preference. Some people prefer the wrist strap index trigger so they can relax their hand, others prefer the 3 finger thumb trigger for a better anchor and sometimes more control. It really comes down to testing and finding what works best for you.
      Also, I think that form of testing will likely be in one of my future videos!

  • @ObelixCMM
    @ObelixCMM Před 5 lety +2

    Another budget/store arrow you didn't review is Gander Mountain TECHUNTER (.006") and TECHUNTER PRO (.003").
    This is another re branded Victory V-Force arrow and can be found on E-Bay for $50-$60 for 12 arrows.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      What?! 50-60 for a dozen?!?!?!?! I'll look into it

    • @ObelixCMM
      @ObelixCMM Před 5 lety

      @@SamuelWhiteArchery here you go www.ebay.com/itm/1-DZ-VICTORY-V3-VFORCE-TECHUNTER-PRO-CARBON-AROWS-350-400-500/322990261184?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3Dd21d4506d0d04b2eaa626abaa740939b%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D322246448033%26itm%3D322990261184%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

    • @ObelixCMM
      @ObelixCMM Před 5 lety

      @@SamuelWhiteArchery and .006" at $46.99 for 12 arrows www.ebay.com/itm/1-DZ-VICTORY-VFORCE-TEC-HUNTER-CARBON-AROWS-400-INSERTS-AND-CUTTING/272877273688?hash=item3f88c0c258:m:mANojMitLUvnPD_Nf17G-fQ

    • @rayking3466
      @rayking3466 Před 5 lety

      Sam, Gander closed here. thought they closed everywhere but evidently I was incorrect about that.

    • @ObelixCMM
      @ObelixCMM Před 5 lety

      @@rayking3466 they got bought out by Camping World and renamed to Gander Outdoors, you can find those arrows on Ebay

  • @tranceformer110
    @tranceformer110 Před 3 lety

    I shoot Blackout X3s and so far they work well

  • @ThirdLawPair
    @ThirdLawPair Před 2 lety

    I would love to see you put those arrows in a shooting machine to see how your quality rating maps onto grouping size.

  • @twayne4usa
    @twayne4usa Před 5 lety +1

    nice work buddy. i was an FMJ lifer until a couple years ago. RIP with 75g inserts up front are the Ali's of arrows. I would be interested in seeing how the Easton Hexx arrows or Injexion FMJs vs VAPs.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      Thank you so much! Those were definitely on the to-do list, so I'll see if I can get my hands on them

  • @coreytaggart128
    @coreytaggart128 Před 2 lety

    While I get that most don't want all the numbers and math, it would be nice to know what went into each star rating and I think at one point you mentioned weighting values so to know how you did that.

  • @dps6198
    @dps6198 Před rokem

    Of course not. They are made by Gold Tip and those are very good arrows.
    I practice and hunt with the Bass Pro Blackout X3 Hunter arrows.
    I have 100gr field tips and 100gr G5 Montec broadheads that shoot true.
    No complaints here.

  • @mkvnwk
    @mkvnwk Před 5 lety +1

    Very well put together video with some interesting information. I've used the two Cabela's branded arrows exclusively since about 2012 and found both to be plenty accurate for my needs, though the carbon hunters seem to be less durable than the stalker extremes. I think any of today's bows matched with any carbon arrow of appropriate spine will be good enough for almost all hunting applications.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      I think you're completely right! I'm curious to see the actual implications of the differences in quality. I'll hopefully be able to put together a test in the future and make a video about it, so look out for that. Thanks for watching!

  • @matthewfox3760
    @matthewfox3760 Před 4 lety

    Please extend this test to include mid priced arrow from major manufacturers

  • @islandpainter3964
    @islandpainter3964 Před 5 lety

    I found a fantastic chinese supplier who has very good ratings on ali Express.
    I brought a dozen for $30. Free shipping as well!.
    So to be fair i wasnt expecting much but these things shot as good as my easton axis.
    Made me wake up to the cost of labour and marketing..
    Im going back for more cause i don't cry when i lose em anymore.

  • @abirch77
    @abirch77 Před 4 měsíci +1

    "The archery arrow industry is way over saturated with choices." NOT if you shoot over a 31" draw/arrow. Then you're stuck with too limited choices!

  • @donkeykong2087
    @donkeykong2087 Před 5 lety +1

    The only thing you didnt mention is the diameter of the fmj and the vap, that equates to a better arrow, because it is going to penetrate better in a hunting situation. And should hypothetically fly better as well. And Easton arrows are American made.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 4 lety +1

      I'm definitely going to be testing those factors in the future! Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.

  • @suetaylor1127
    @suetaylor1127 Před 4 měsíci

    I pay $20 to $30 bucks for 12 arrows from Amazon and they shoot great. However I have never shot bow more then $5 dollars.

  • @ballzybaits4414
    @ballzybaits4414 Před 5 lety +1

    I shot VAP V1 for 3d tournament... shoot v6 for hunting. Figured It didnt group different from the v1 so, i started to use v6 for tournament. Did as well as my v1.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      I'm definitely going to be doing a test in the future to look at the implications of quality differences! I'm curious to see if what you found is true, because that could save people a LOT of money, including myself haha! Thanks for watching

    • @ballzybaits4414
      @ballzybaits4414 Před 5 lety

      @@SamuelWhiteArchery You should! itll be awesome to see the results!

  • @Charlie_Bravo_Echo
    @Charlie_Bravo_Echo Před 5 lety +1

    I just bought some sportsmen warehouse 300gr. so I stop breaking my gold tip hunter pro 300gr. . Those SW brand arrows were amazingly accurate and repeatable. 12=about 70 bucks,

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety +1

      I was really surprised to see such a good performance from their store-brand arrows. I didn't expect a lot because the packaging and visual look of the arrows, but they sure taught me a lesson. Thanks for watching Chris!

    • @optimuscrime608
      @optimuscrime608 Před 5 lety +1

      300 spine, not grain

    • @Charlie_Bravo_Echo
      @Charlie_Bravo_Echo Před 5 lety +1

      @@optimuscrime608 yes, I misspoke. Thank you.

  • @mrwickairsoft6345
    @mrwickairsoft6345 Před 3 lety

    I’ve used Carbon express, Kryptos by Allen, and Mossy Oak and their pretty good. I have several Easton super slam or super elite ones which are not bad.

  • @sharpenedtool
    @sharpenedtool Před 5 lety

    Great video, keep up the great work! What data factors/parameters determined your star ratings. Also, did the labels on the boxes prove reasonably accurate to the arrows inside (.003” vs .001”). Look forward to seeing some shooting performance info as well.

  • @gmshep717sdad
    @gmshep717sdad Před 4 lety

    Very professional! Excellent job

  • @willl.5260
    @willl.5260 Před 4 lety

    Excellent vid thanks for making this

  • @6ffm9
    @6ffm9 Před 4 lety

    Fantastic report, great information... but only half of what is needed. As a traditional bowman using one piece bow, how can I tell if they function the same as using a compound?

  • @jtepsr
    @jtepsr Před rokem

    Great review thank you.

  • @wcwcgarner2717
    @wcwcgarner2717 Před 3 lety

    Blackout is made by gold tip. From cabelas. I shoot the x 5. 400 spine.

  • @ethanamldon5657
    @ethanamldon5657 Před 2 lety

    But how good of an arrow do I need if I'm only hunting at 20 years at the most ?

  • @TechnoNinjaAlex
    @TechnoNinjaAlex Před 5 lety +1

    Awesome my arrows scored last. Got the job done last fall though.

    • @SamuelWhiteArchery
      @SamuelWhiteArchery  Před 5 lety

      I wouldn't sweat it man! These variances are within thousandths of an inch, so the implications of the quality differences are likely minimal. I'm going to be doing a test on this soon. Thanks for watching!

  • @kxmixing
    @kxmixing Před 4 lety

    I went to a local pro shop and wanted some victory arrows. The guy there told me they don’t sell victory arrows because they are not made in America. Told me they are made in Korea. I ended with some fmj. Hope that wasn’t a mistake by me

  • @shanerhodes925
    @shanerhodes925 Před 5 lety

    But I am loking more for penetration I hunt I n the northeast and shots range from 15 to 30 yards. I shoot rage broadheads and in the past have had trouble putting the arrows syraigt through with cheaper arrows. I switched to fmj am seems to work well but I wouldnt mind something a little cheaper that would work avour the same. But I kmow its hard because you get what you pay for. Cheaper usually meams cut corners. But any thoughta on this would be great. Thanks

  • @ryanpace4108
    @ryanpace4108 Před 2 lety

    Which budget arrow compares to Easton axix 5mm 340? Thanks

  • @nathanpetersen6230
    @nathanpetersen6230 Před rokem

    Can you do a breakdown of victory arrows at different price points please 🙏

  • @outbackarchery97
    @outbackarchery97 Před 5 lety

    Quick question, wouldn’t it have been more fair to perform your testing using the Easton FMJ 5mm Match Grade shaft instead of the standard FMJ? That way both arrows are 0.001 straightness? Not arguing with ya, I think it’s great people are doing these tests but was just a thought?

  • @jameseveritts8113
    @jameseveritts8113 Před 4 lety

    So now who are you and whst are your qualifications to judge any of the arrow companies arrows