Black Panther - Africa Without Colonization | Renegade Cut
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Blocking *a lot* of people who thought that this was an invitation to send me comments on said video in different CZcams comments sections. If someone changes their phone number, you don't show up at their house.
Don't. Reply.
Now, instead of colonialism, much of Africa suffers from post-colonial exploitation. The first book that gave me a glimpse into the evils of colonialism, was 'Heart of Darkness'. Of course, having grown up in the South, I was already aware of the evil of slavery and I find current attempts at rationalization or historical revisionism disgusting.
Ditto!
You deserve some cookies
Also read Kwameh Nkurumah's Neo-Colonialism book. It is quite informative on the topic of "post-colonial" Africa.
Another great book on colonialism that really drives home the point is Chinua Achebe's Things fall apart.
@Nicholas Mosher You're welcome. I remember when I was much younger, coming across some old papers a distant relative had left with my grandmother. In one, which looked to be a will of sorts, it stated that when a particular young boy slave came of age, he was to be sent to the man's brother in payment of a debt. All these years later, I still think about that boy's mother, father and the boy, himself...
damn I didn't learn "the scramble for Africa" under that name. my history teacher was very clear how awful it was, she called it "the raping of Africa."
Good teacher
i hate “scramble.” it sounds almost.. wacky
It depends on your perspective. For the africans, "Raping of Africa" is more accurate. From the african perspective the europeans just showed up one decade and took everything, disrupting millennia old social structures and imposing their own ideas. Then, as quickly as they arrived, the just leave and abandon Africa & its new "nations" to themselves.
For the europeans, "Scramble for Africa" is more accurate. There was no profit in the conquest, and no real gain from it. Yes Africa had resources, but conquest was not necessary (or desirable) to extract those. The pre-existing states could extract them which is a much better way of getting resources (and is the way in which countries exploit Africa nowadays).
The only reason the europeans conquered africa was due mercantilism & european competition. New technologies made conquest of the continent possible. As some of these empires expanded (usually to secure trade routes, e.g. the suez canal) other empires worried. They worried that these empires (Britain, Portugal) were hoarding the wealth of the continent for themselves (mercantilism). They were also offended by the fact that their rivals were expanding and they weren't (petty competition and nationalism). So, naturally, to secure guaranteed resources (not necessary in a non-mercantilist system) & to improve national prestige, european powers started "scrambling" for territory as quickly as possible. Obviously when you have a bunch of rapidly expanding empires with overlapping territorial claims, it's a recipe for war. So, to prevent war, Germany (ironic given Germany's later attitude) organised a conference to divide up the continent between the powers to prevent outright war. They agreed upon a set of claims, and so the european powers were allowed to expand within those claims as they wished.
The tragedy of the conquest is not only that it devastated the inhabitants of Africa, but that it did that for no reason at all. The europeans gained nothing out of colonialism that they couldn't have acquired through traditional methods (using pre-existing states, setting them against each other, exploiting leaders, generally shitty things but at least the native structures are intact). They actually lost money colonising Africa, it was a terrible investment. Personally I would argue the conquest caused damage to europe's culture at home, and was one of the prerequisites to the world war (making the scramble bad for europe too, but in a less extreme and obvious way). The only reason was prestige, to bolster their national image compared to their competitors, which in the end meant nothing because the prestige of the european powers vanished after the world wars. The whole raping of the continent was, quite literally, in vain.
I spent 90 days in Rwanda last year doing volunteer work, some of which was in Uganda. I admit I didn't set out to be a 'do-gooder'; I went because I wanted to see for myself what colonialism had wrought upon the continent, and talk to some young Africans about how they see the future. I talked to a university student who told me that this brutal history has robbed the older generations of their hope in the future. They've seen a cycle of leaders being killed or corrupted for over 70 years, and believe that Europe won't let things change. The consistent lesson has been that if you dream of a brighter future, someone will be sent to kill you. Being successful makes you a target. There is reason for hope now, because much like the Arab spring, the internet is giving voice to people who historically haven't had one.
"The consistent lesson has been that if you dream of a brighter future, someone will be sent to kill you."
I think that's a big problem with attempts at emancipatory societies everywhere.
South America has made similar experiences.
And right now Rojava has a big target painted on its back.
@@johannageisel5390 And that someone was probably sent by America. I mean which countries haven't we invaded or pulled off a coup in? The list is extremely long. And it's not just in the global south either. It happened in Europe too. Look at Operation Gladio for example.
@@Jamie-kg8ig France.
I just hate how we can’t end the oppression immediately. Even if we work towards a better future for Africans, there’s still Africans right here, right now, starving and dying because of colonialism.
Don't forget that Wakanda's built on the peaceful cooperation of multiple nations within borders they laid out themselves. You know, as opposed to borders laid out by colonizers based on their own territory without regard for intertribal politics. The kind of borders that lump multiple ethnic groups together without considering their relationships, like in Mali (how many Tuareg rebellions are we up to now?) and Rwanda (do I need to say anything?). The worst tribal disputes Wakanda seems to deal with are when the Jabari occasionally get fussy.
M'Baku and the Jabari struck me as being Wakanda's conservatives and traditionalists. They are suspicious of technological advances and development but recognize the worth of remaining part of Wakanda and working within it. They likely only need look outside of its borders to Rwanda and Mali to see how bad things could get otherwise for the very reasons you cited.
That brings to mind something similar I always wonder about. Europe has had the past five centuries to work on its ethnic/national tensions (which even today still simmer, e.g. Catalonia). Africa didn't have the same chance; Europe (and later America) stole its opportunities for great unifying leaders/nations.
Put another way, how many African counterparts of King James VI were killed before they could unify three kingdoms into one? How many Bismarcks were shipped across the Atlantic?
And then, more recently, how many George Washingtons of decolonized states were deposed in a CIA coup for being too far left for American tastes?
Rwanda was already a unified kingdom by the time Europeans colonised it. The Belgians purposefuly created the ethnic groups. Before that Hutu just meant poor and tutsi meant rich. They were separate classes and NOT ethnicities meaning that a Hutu could become a Tutsi and vice verca.
The Europeans turned it into a set ethnicity in order to divide the nation and better controle it. So i agree with your point but Rwanda is a bad example since it current borders are almost the same as before the bloody era of colonialism.
It would be good to add a section about modern-day colonialism which has taken an economic form, mainly in the loans given to African countries by the IMF, that are designed in such a way as to benefit European countries and the US by exploiting resources in those countries and are insurmountable. Senegal is a perfect case study of this phenomenon: not only did the IMF give them a huge loan with exorbitant interest rates the country can never pay off, but the subsequent austerity measurements and privatization of public services have effectively collapsed the economy of Senegal after its independence.
The IMF has long been an arbiter of neoliberalism and the loans to European countries have been constructed the same way if not worse (in the case of Greece). The problem is that African countries generally have nascent vulnerable economies that are more susceptible to free-trade competition from established economies. It is a system based in economic ideology working as intended. I'm all in favor of repaying the cost of colonialism, but I don't think conspiracies about Europeans are very useful and it is too similar to the way the right-wing uses immigration in Europe or Middle-eastern despots fuels antisemitism. It is useful distraction for nationalists. Of course, some might argue that neoliberalism and/or capitalism is inherently racist, but that is a different discussion.
As someone born and raised in a former British colony, I say Thank You Leon, Thank You for this video.
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat Throw a dart at the world map and there's a good chance Britain colonized or tried to :P
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat I wasn't aware that you were interested in the exact place where I was born & raised. You know that you could just ask me like you know a normal person.
Same, Ronin. Indian here.
His recent video on James Bond was incredibly gratifying.
@@raphcannon it was probably just meant as a joke, since britain basically colonised most of the world. not as a question just a retorical comment.
One quarter of the world could say the same.
Great job as always. At my viewings I heard people cheering certain scenes of Killmonger but not others so I asked them why.
They said they didn't want colonization but revolution and solidarity with the diaspora like Killmonger but felt he was a White caricature of Black liberation made to dissuade us unlike rebels in films about the US revolution. Fun talks for a Marvel flick.
School: You were enslaved one day. We abolished it. Jim Crow. Civil Rights.... next lesson.
Renegade Cut: Let's talk about European colonialism in Africa, no pussyfooting around.
Excellent video.
america is still fucked and still imperialist. try reading academic material about indigenous reservations. jfc.
I've honestly learned more American history from watching these videos then from all my 12+ years of school its kinda sad.
So many atrocities that you had to summarize to save time...
Excellent video. your work is always outstanding.
One thing I'd note is I'd argue Ethiopian was NOT conquered or colonized by Italy. It would be more accurate to say it was Occupied by Italy for the years during WW2. We don't say France was Colonized by Germany during the war. Ethiopia was no different.
say it loud !
Give the book "Collapse" a read, if you haven't yet. It explains the geographic luck that allowed European civilizations to more effectively trade crops, livestock and technologies than other regions. In short, because many groups in Europe share a similar climate, they can share not just finished goods, but resources like seeds and cattle.
Thanks
I would also suggest “Guns, germs, & steel.” Similar premise
@@enemyoftherepublic777 also Upheaval
One thing that I noticed in the movie- that ties in to the Diamond books- is that the Wakandans are able to domesticate animals that humans were not able to domesticate in real life, such as the rhinos used by the Wakanda military. One of Diamond’s key points is how vital domestication of crops and livestock was to the development of advanced civilization (since one needs large surpluses of food to support the merchants, priests, blacksmiths, warriors, et cetera).
@@markrose2565
Domistaction of even wild animals is quite possible,there was an experiment in the Soviet Union in the 60's,within 6 generations they managed to domesticate wild ferrets.
Why is it that people have to say "fictional" when referring to Wakanda, but never say "fictional" Gotham city, metropolis or asgard? We all know its fictional, it doesn't need to be said everytime.
Because God forbid we see black people thrive. *Sarcasm*
lexleo1520 charitably, most people had heard of Metropolis and Gotham before last year, and even if they hadn't the audience for this video is probably aware enough of American geography to figure it out, whereas people are often so ignorant of African geography that it'd be much easier for them to assume it's a real place
Its to rub salt in the wound
I think because there is not a lot of confidence in usamerican geography knowledge. They maybe know that Gotham isn't a real usamerican city, but they have no idea if there isn't a country called wakanda, because they don't know a lot of countries, because other countries aren't the US.
@@nykcarnsew2238 I say, why be kind enough to bother telling them? Their heads are full of countless equally untrue myths about white people, if the same ignorant assholes go around believing Wakanda is a real place maybe it'll humble their idiot egos a little.
The worst thing is that the only thing taught in school is the fact that slavery is bad, but not necessarily Imperialism. We aren't taught that exploiting other's resources and work is bad, we are taught that explicitly owning them is.
Like... is this a joke? I even heard some teachers being pro-imperialist. My ex-wife used to be a teacher and she was into this world trouble/opinions stuff and whenever she would come from work I would hear her talking how her co-workers (she wasn't teaching hisory, unfortunately) essentially teaching kids to accept imperialism as ok.
We both were disgusted as we both identify as pro-left... as Socialists.
What is there to be said...?
Teachers should never, under any circumstance teach opinions. Only what comes with them... no matter how good intentions or opinions you have... you should never teach someone a certain opinion is right and other is wrong.
Then it is not even an argument in a discussion if your opinions are just bashed in your head since birth. It is then not an opinion nor an argument, but a dogma.
I found the BP movie very interesting compared to the kick ass BET show.
Movie: The Black Panther and his white best friend from the CIA fight another black dude who was wronged by Wakanda.
TV show: The US hears that Wakanda exists and decides, literally within seconds, that they HAVE to invade it because it *might* be dangerous later on. Maybe. Theoretically. So the US organizes a cadre of super-white super-villains and invades Wakanda. Also; they deploy zombified Iraq War soldiers (yea... that part was weird.)
The differences between the Disney and BET version are just so subtle.
Like with Indians or alien visitors. The government would pretend friendship, learn as much as they could about them, figure out how to kill them/control any survivors, take their stuff.
RIP Chadwick Boseman 🙏
Hard to look at it may have been, but it still needed to be said. My hat's off to you for pressing on and saying it out loud!
Many films, probably most films are wish-fulfillment fantasies in part or whole. I know many nonblacks don’t understand Black Panther, or why it was “such a big deal” for the black diaspora because nonblack people are accustomed to seeing themselves portrayed lavishly in media a lot and in wide variety. Also, due to often a widely different experience of world history, Black people have a somewhat different set of fantasies.
What impressed *me* with Black Panther is that it served up on a silver platter a vision of a fervent wish of many black people (especially those in the diaspora): NORMALCY. ONENESS. WHOLENESS. To be the center and the default setting. Utter economic independence. A separate infrastructure. For Wakandans, there is no split identity or having to change some aspect of their personality or appearance to make outsiders “comfortable.” Wakandans don’t have to constantly prove themselves fundamentally worthy to a foreign system. There’s no foreign religion or missionaries there to impress upon you that everything of African origin is evil or dumb, or that even God is white. There is no undercurrent of hostility to black existence. There in that film was a vision of unity and collective validation, for the most part.
The excitement around the film even before it came out of not just seeing Africans on screen in such an attractive production, but to catch a glimpse of what it would be like to live in a different global CONTEXT entirely, even beyond the absence of colonization.
A lot of extremely popular films and other cultural creations aren’t fabulous, but capture a deep societal wish or fantasy. I thought Black Panther itself was good, not great, but definitely had the nuance of subtext I knew would fly over the heads of most nonblacks. The film delivered a somewhat different fantasy to its black audience: utter uninvolvement in exploitation, from within or without, which is actually a pretty revolutionary thing for any country.
Thank you for that perspective, very enlightening!
See now this needs to be taught in schools.
I'm taking a class in college called Ethnic studies African American Cinema. We are basically watching the history of the black experience in American through film. The 30's, 40's and so on. It's very eye opening and the stuff talked about in class is definitely not taught in most schools.
I took an English class that covered post-colonialism.
Eurocentrism isnt going down that easy
Not gonna happen.The existence of modern schools(Home,private or public)is dependent upon slavery,white supremacism and colonialism so it`s in their interests to whitewash the detrimental,dehumanizing effects of such systems and social norms. Videos like this and minority-controlled autonomous democratic schools are the best hope of information like this getting out there!
@@AspieMediaBobby this is why we need to either reform the current school system or abolish it completely.
Small correction at 4:41 - The Anglo-Zulu War didn't establish the Cape Colony. The Dutch and British had by that point already fought other nations to carve out the Cape. Instead, the Anglo-Zulu War only added KwaZulu to what the British Empire had already established in the region. And nominally, it became part of the Natal Colony, not the Cape Colony.
It's shocking to think those atrocities only started like 130 years ago.. and they "stopped" not even a few decades ago. Truly evil
You know, I've heard the line "the Belgians in the Congo" dozens of times listening to the old midnight oil song "Short Memory" before but until today I'd never actually heard what that was in reference to, not surprising given the context but still shocking non the less.
Some examples of such Bantu states include: in Central Africa, the Kingdom of Kongo, Lunda Empire, Luba Empire of Angola, the Buganda Kingdoms of Uganda and Tanzania; and in Southern Africa, the Mutapa Empire, the Danamombe, Khami, and Naletale Kingdoms of Zimbabwe and Mozambique and the Rozwi Empire.
Judging by the number of comments saying "WHAT ABOUT THE ARAB SLAVE TRADE" you should put a secret "Code Word" in the middle of the video to people that want to argue against it. Then you can be sure who saw It and is arguing in good faith and Who is just a reactionary angry at the title/first minutes of the video.
As always great work.
Something containing words along the lines of "trade", "slave" and "eastern", but in a different order maybe.
It's good to start question the objective behind someone's argument regarding this particular topic if they refer to it as the "Arab slave trade" or even the "Muslim slave trade" (something i've seen too many times). It's one thing to use it while *understanding* the history behind slavery in Africa, (or out of genuine lack of knowledge regarding it's proper terminology), but most people i've enganged in conversations with about this topic were using it *purposefuly* along with that argument. All major slave trading avenues on the African continent are named based off the route they took to get captured people from point A to B. The thing (certain types of people who like to argue "WHAT ABOUT THE ARAB SLAVE TRADE") they call the "Arab slave trade" has a technical name, the *Trans-Saharan slave trade,* just as the *Trans-Atlantic slave trade* is named based off of it's route. Typically the name of the ethnic (or racial group) invovled or their religous affiliatation isn't mentioned in the title, because you learn it by *actually* learning about the history behind that slave trading route. The same kinds people who call it either the "Arab slave trade" or the "Muslim slave trade" purposefuly, while arguing "what about the Arab slave trade", would be the first ones to either say, "that's incorrect", "your're trying to make us look bad" (
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to share this. It was well researched and presented in an easily digestible format. Bravo.
Do remember Mansa Musa freely gave gold to the poor, giving so much the price of gold collapsed. He then fixed it by buying back the gold on his way back.
Killmonger was right 🤷♀️ I thought his desire to help others was mirrored in tchallas love interest. I wished that tchalla had acknowledged this and tried to work with him.
WOW!!!!! Educational, informational & brutally honest! Thank you!
If nothing else, there is no way not being colonized could make things worse.
You got to go WAY further back before the 1800s if you're talking about colonization.
Thanks, Leon! What I loved most about this movie is the dignified way it portrayed Africa. You're one of the good ones.
Off-topic, but I'm loving the new aesthetic to your editing. Prevents copyright claims and just plain looks awesome.
On topic, fuck colonialism.
Awesome work!
Surprised the video didn't talk about Burkina Faso where they gained food security only in 3 years when Thomas Sankara decided to cut ties with the country's neo-colonial powers.
one thing that could also have been neat to add was of existing african cities in pre-colonial times, such as benin and great zimbabwe.
Masterful work.
Thanks for making this.
Love your page
Astute as always, RC
Thanks taking time and effort to tackle this decidedly difficult subject
BRAVO! Great Essay!
You’re videos are fire
Amazing video
I always knew and felt that BLACK PANTHER was more than just a "popcorn movie", more than just a superhero movie and videos like this just continue to prove that point. This vid deserves a WAKANDA FOREVER!! Good job RENEGADE CUT.
If you watch the director talk about the movie you can see the nuances and subtlties involved.
This channel is always on point
Thank you so much ❤️
14:11 Gonna have to disagree that they're socially modern.
Calling Wakanda a monarchy is a bit misleading. While the ruler can rule for life their position can also be challenged through political mechanisms and must be earned. The line of succession isn't straightforward either - Shuri didn't take the throne just because T'Challa was presumed dead and while there are systems of succession that would give Killmonger the throne in that situation as the closest male kin that's not why he gets the throne. He gets the throne because he kills somebody in a trial by combat for the position. It's less of a kingship and more of a dictatorship. Say what you will about the faults of democratic systems but they don't force it's participants to murder. I feel that while Wakanda advanced technologically its isolationism cost the nation part of its soul. That final astral plane scene seemed to pretty clearly be condemning the previous leaders of Wakanda for ethical failings with T'Challa openly shaming them not just because isolationism was bad pragmatically but ethically. There's other bits I'd point towards to in the film indicating a social stagnation but this is a CZcams comment, not an essay.
Even so, I think that actually reinforces T'Challa's decision to open up to the world being the right one on the subconscious level. No one wins when it comes to isolationism, especially the country that is practicing it.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Yeah, the context in which the film was made is pretty inescapable - Trump is an isolationist. At least in regards to rhetoric anyways. It's pretty nakedly saying that we, the developed nations of the world, have an obligation to the rest of our world to help elevate them and that beside that it serves in our best interest to do so as it leaves a rot in our culture to neglect our fellows.
Can someone argue with me here? I know that the video is about different topic (sort of) and it would send mix signals or just wouldn't fit in the story narrative of the movie... But why did Wakanda skipped colonism? Why didn't Wakanda concur Africa is what I'm asking? Why did they choose Isolationism instead?
@@somestuff7876 My best guess? They saw what happened to their neighbors and took great pains to look unimportant. And it worked.
@@somestuff7876 They saw what war for resources did to their five tribes, so they made peace. They had all the wealth they'd ever need, so they didn't need to conquer anyone.
Thank you for such a respectful approach to history. This video should be required study in public schools. It should also be shown in every church since, as the Bible says, "the truth will set you free."
They can't. Ever single piece of white culture is based on an underlying lie. That they are the good and the advanced group that others should emulate. This is simply not true. Even in the holy bible, all of the characters include jesus and god, are all black men and described as such in the bible. Except noah, who is clearly described in the book of enoch as a black albino, not a white man. How can you now 2500 years later, suddenly tell white culture that everything that they base their identity on, their entire sense of self is a lie.
Truly outstanding, as per usual.
The "solid gold staff weighing four pounds" part had me confused, given how heavy gold is. I ran the calculations, 4lbs of gold would take up about 94cm^3 of volume given it's density. A "staff" that was 2cm in diameter and 94cm^3 in volume would be 30cm long. So they would be carrying "staffs" that were just about the size of a ruler. I think a "rod" might be a more accurate description from this quote lol.
Great video yet again. Amazing job! And thank you
There was a country definitaly like Wakanda minus the hidden part: Mali Empire.
They were so rich in gold that Mansa Musa crashed Egypt’s economy by buying souveniers
It’s funny because Mansa Musa is later explained in the video.
I commented too early, lol
Even though the colonization of the African nations had stopped, the damage was done.
Once the tree is cut from it's roots, it could not return to them.
Very responsible Post-Colonial read of the subject, cheers.
Good history lesson!
Well done video sir. I love the movie BLACK PANTHER and I have watched dozens of videos dedicated to the MCU film, and I have to say yours was one of the best. The cultural impact of BLACK PANTHER is well known and still being felt more than a year after it's release, but the historical context you explained in relation to the film gives it a whole new dimension and perspective, again well done and thank you.
Nicely done. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
As a new subscriber, I enjoy learning something from each of your videos. Today I learned colonization stunted Africa, something that I should've figured out long ago.
Quite an Interesting point of few.
I hate superhero movies but this one looks different enough that I might check it out. good video!
Thank you for stating the fact that it took hundreds of years before Europeans couldn't even enter the interior of Africa
I actually vote for you, people like you should be in charge of the world.
1:46 he opted to listen to Nakia because she has been saying this from the start. She says this durin the pseudo boko haram battle and how she wants to help people outside of wakanda instead of staying by his side. She opened up T'Challas eyes.
The first to prod him in that direction, yes. But it was Erik who pushed him the rest of the way to that decision. There's nothing quite like making the costs of sticking with a bad status quo personal to make those eyes stay open.
19:54 - I guess... One could substitute 'content' for 'truth'. A warning that some of this truth may cause very negative reactions. Thanks for all the trouble.
Unfortunately the colonization and exploitation of Africa continues today, except instead of the Europeans it's now the Chinese
thats cia propaganda
The U.S. is still sticking its nose in there for oil. Not as extreme as China but still doing it. There's also the religious colonization of Africa. You remember that fuss about Uganda a few years ago trying to make homosexuality a capital offense? Homosexuality was fairly well accepted in Uganda before U.S. evangelicals did their missionary bullshit.
Let's just say colonialism is bad no matter who is doing it and should be rejected under all circumstances.
@@diiasze3743 No, that's reality. They're colonizing Africa under the guise of trade, Aid and using Debt-Trap Diplomacy
@@charlieni645 That's a great thing to say and wish for but unfortunately it's not going to be stopping any time soon, especially where Africa is concerned. Most of the worlds major resources are located on the continent, and it seems like everyone is always plotting and planning on how they can steal them
Many of the ideas put forth in his video seem to dispute the ideas of malthusianism put forth in the Thanos overpopulation video i.e. the tsetse flies and their effect on overall population numbers. Additionally Wakanda being an isolationist state in its own right and how that would have inevitability stunted its technological development, especially when compared to the rest of the world that was engaged in open trade and the exchange of ideas even if it was often lopsided.
Great
Thanks for this work. Hopefully someone who needs to learn it watches it and takes it in.
That's Gunna in the back playing lol
Thank you for this analysis.
So I need a time machine and a railgun.
I wish I was taught this in school .
What movies are used in this clip except for black panther?
I noticed Zulu Dawn
WOW, amazing I love this, thank you someone who is not black who talks sense and sees the truth. you have brought so much joy to me and I'm glad you took the time to put this video together. the people need educating and should see things for what they as beautifully explained by your self.
i played african drums recently
Thank you for this.
11:10 analoge to this, one can say the phrase "we built railroads for them and improved their lives" is the equivalent to "Hitler was not so bad, he built the Autobahn". Only in the later you immediately understand the nonsense this statement is.
I love your channel but I can’t finish this video it’s pissing me off too much.
I know this is a tough subject to research (especially getting into more recent events that make you realize how much systems of imperialism and colonialism remain the same) but did I hear an allusion to a part 2 to this? Depending on what happens in _Endgame,_ I'd imagine an exploration of such modern day forms of imperialism could be an interesting way to probe ideas that Coogler might end up exploring through the rest of the _Black Panther_ movie franchise now that Wakanda is revealing itself to the world.
No. I only meant that the video had gone on long enough and that I don't have time to extend it with a related but mostly separate topic. I may make a video about capitalist exploitation in modern day in Africa one day, but I don't have anything planned for the near future. I just didn't want to end it with "And now everything is fine!" or some such nonsense.
Here in Egypt, we lament not learning from the British, particularly English.
Popular C/C sent me here. This was good.
yeah there's still neocolonial exploitation by corps and "entities"
Don't forget China!
If Africa had never been colonized in real life they'd be a very powerful nation with all the rich and good they have. I hope eventually there in my life time at least.
Africa... with no limits
I’d love to see someone analyze this movie alongside HBO’s Watchmen for how it deals with racism and colonialism. Especially because Damon Lindelof was inspired to write that show through imagining what Wakanda would look like if it were real, and realized that White people would be trying to conquer it.
Hence why he set the show in Tulsa: the Greenwood neighborhood, aka “Black Wall Street,” was Wakanda for African-Americans. And white supremacists completely destroyed it!
Rishi Kaufman Absolutely! And I was on board with Lindelof’s treatment of Rorschach because he obviously was racist. But then I found out that actually reflected Alan Moore’s opinions on the character as well, and I wholeheartedly supported it!
An African country without colonisation...
Ethiopia?
Ethiopia is cool. I have a lot of respect.
Thank you does not say enough
The problem I have with Black Panther, if Colonialism never happened and they were advanced beyond what we are, due to Vibranium, wouldn't they be an Anarchic Government and not a Feudal Government?
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WAKANDA FOREVER!
Leopold ll wasn't just interested in rubber, he was also interested in chocolate. Most of the coco that Belgian chocolate is known for, came from the Congo. The Belgian chocolate hands that are sold in shops, even to this day, represent the hands of the Congolese that were chopped off by Leopold's people. Also, France makes African countries pay for infrastructure that was built why France colonized them. France receives about 500 billion dollars per year from the now "independent" countries. It is believed that if France stopped receiving money from Africa, they would become a third world power.
Firstly, I really LOVE how you break things down! Next payday, Imma hook up your Patreon. The movie itself might not have been that amazing (I personally hope the CGI is better in the second one), I saw it five times and I loved it still! I just loved seeing black people on screen with dark skin and natural motherf’n hair portrayed as innovators, and heroes. And of course, free of the ravaging of colonizers! Yaaasss! Also, I never looked at Killmonger as a villain; he had great points, he was just going about it in a fucked up but understandable way. That’s why he was so great!
AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN I THINK MORE PEOPLE SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO
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I think you are even downplaying the transatlantic slave trade... it is by far the largest and most brutal in the institution of slavery, even the Roman treated their slaves better. It's the first time class and skin color was used to enslaved others. Colonialism is no different.
Great work. A people who don't know history may not be doomed to repeat it, but they are doomed to wander in ignorance. Always vulnerable to the lies and absurdities of charlatans, which Voltaire warned leads to the normalization of barbarism. IOW, the world we live in.
One metor held enough metal to build a full city.... Makes sense.
Odds are the whole "regime change through false humanitarian aid" thing will become a problem in the sequel.
I often think of city state of Ben. What all was lost, what could be.
I completely agree on your expose. Still, there is one minor thing I have issue with. I still fail to understand how the end of the movie isn't a form of colonializm. I would even go as far as to say that the movie, being american (as you might have guessed, I'm not), actually makes the argument that there is a "good" form of colonializm in opposition to a bad one. I fail to see how to unilateraly decide how and when you wanna help another country, isn'r a form of, at least mild, colonializm...
I feel like I defined is pretty well, but to clarify: friendly relations and cooperation between nations does not equal colonialism. Colonialism is neither friendly nor cooperative. At the end of the film, T'Challa simply opens up diplomatic and trade relations.
@@YuKheThai They likely are just such a makeup attempt but that doesn't count as colonialism or if it does, it's early stage. Only when you start setting up bases in other countries, making nations utterly dependent on you or even flat-out gobbling up territory would I call it such.
Also Christian missionaries!