This Affordable Tape Echo Plays Like An Instrument
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- čas přidán 15. 02. 2023
- I have mostly disregarded Dynacord tape echoes - the are pretty common and cheap in Germany, and a Roland Space Echo was more desireable. Turns out, I was wrong to do so. As I played the Echocord Super 76 on a guest musician gig I immediately realized what it can do, be played like an instrument.
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Would be neat to add a midi controlled servo to the tape head movement.
so nice. thank you, Hainbach
My favorite thing recently has been a tape simulator in Pure Data. Doesn't give the beautiful saturation and fidelity of real tapes, but it gives such detailed control over the structure and timings. Right now I'm doing true stereo delays, where each duration is the sum of a common value and its own offset, so the channels can either stay in sync or drift in and out as wanted. And it has a seamless switch to turn it into a non-interpolating (i.e. non-pitch shifting) mode to allow doubling the length. Used to need to use multiple loopers/delays in sequence to get that kind of behavior, and that would introduce timing errors to the extent your pedal presses aren't sample-accurate, but not anymore!
Man, I could go on endlessly about delays lol... one last thing is that for a long time my number 1 go-to pedal was the DOD FX96 analog delay. It has a mix knob that goes to full wet, and so much of what I've recorded was sent thru that so I could pitch shift things like what you're doing with the slider. Seems like the long-throw slider is a good way to get fine control when doing that, perhaps it should make a comeback.
That sounds really interesting - any videos you could point me to about the pure data delay or is it something you cooked up yourself? Have been meaning to look into pd
Wow! I bought this same delay 6 months ago. Finally I bought something BEFORE Hainbach makes its price double. Thanks for the tips on how to use the delay!
"This Affordable Tape Echo..." ...not anymore ;-)
@@brmbkl This (Formerly) Affordable Tape Echo...
Happens with a lot of stuff. Those cheap tape recorders, cheap toy pianos, cheap toy synthesizers. You name it and the price doubled or even tripled just a week after a new video appears. The good news is that the week has not passed and I was still able to find one at a local music store for "only" 699 and that includes 5 new tape loops, DIN to jack conversion cables and a 3 month warranty 😁
So you usually need some random guy on CZcams to tell you that some piece of gear sounds good to make you think alike and buy it?
Man, prices go up because people blindly follow „leaders“.
Thank you for posting this video. Your collection of sound processors is impressive. I always enjoy your videos
I love a good tape echo - and I absolutely love the idea of a movable play head! Your examples are magical with it. So charming!
Thank you! I love this echo - it makes such a “human” playing style possible
oh I want an audiothing plugin of this. I use wires on almost everything and it's great. a playable echo would be a lot of fun to mess around with
school is in session, Hainbach giving a master class in tape echo. amazing work Hainy!, and thankyou for brining us all closer to the metal~
Such beautiful sounds! This video took me back few years, when I discovered Hainbach via Destruction Loops. Good times!🖤
Fantastic machine! Superb demo!👍
I have that same delay unit. I bought it broken and just received the last transistor to replace a broken one. Can't wait to give it a spin! Good to see it's Hainbach approved!
Thank you for those dreamy sounds....👍👍
I'm in love with this.
Pretty Cool
Thank you for posting
Plenty to think about
Pretty much watched that with a smile on my face start to end.
This sounds lovely! I have a Maestro Echoplex EP3, which has its play head mounted on a slider shaft very similar to your Dynacord. It also has a sound on sound mode for looping which is quite nice for experimental music! Keep your eyes peeled for one of those! Although I’m not sure how common they are in Europe.
Hi Heinbach, it's good to have you back.
Loved seeing your small demo of the EF-X2!
I did a bit of work experience with the Echo Fix guys and they deserve so much recognition for keeping tape echo's alive!
Agreed! I got to hang out with Shane when he visited NY one time and he is as generous as he is smart 😃
@@mjrippe The whole team is legendary, only a small operation of 4-5 people!
stunning... as always
A lot of your music makes me nostalgic for a time and culture I never lived in. Reminds me of what life might have been like in urban cold war era Poland or East Germany for some reason. It's a weird kind of melancholy that I don't get from any other music or art.
Delays which degrade overtime create such incredible sounds and always have their own character. It's just another way to add some extra chaos spice to sound design.
5:35 wow this is really unique! I've never seen that before with a delay. Thanks for the video!
Stefan, you are a Magician!
Around 6 minute mark, 'playing' the pitch slider... fantastic! I have a three head Sony stereo reel to reel with build in SOS knob for tape echo purposes, but this makes me want to pickup one of these if I ever find one. Thanks for sharing :)
I have two Evans ES-5 here which also has a slidable tape head along with a motor speed dial. Love'em!
It was a HH slide echo owned by Derek Thompkins that was used on Bela Legosi is Dead by Bauhaus. Not a Copicat as used live
I really love the moving head on my Echoplex (EP-3 for anyone curious) and it really does make it a performative point of the signal chain when you want it.
At least one model of Echoplex has this moving head design. I had the pleasure of using one when co-producing a friend's EP. The guitarist in the band had a working Echoplex.
Tolles Video! ich hab auch eins davon, aber die Mini Version. Das Feature war für mich damals auch ein absolutes Kaufargument(sync). Hab mich auch schon oft wegen des Hypes um die Rolands gewundert und Leuten die Dynacord Teile als cheape Alternative empfohlen... Großartige Geräte!
Vor 10 Jahren gabs die echt noch für'n Fuffi im Netz.
Your videos are so informative. I love seeing stuff I didn't even know existed. Also you're super handsome so you have that going for you too.
wonderful!!
The Fulltone TTE has a slider like this and it’s super fun to play with.
Oooh I used to have 4 Dynacords, that silver one, the black version and two of the tube echocord versions one crummy one which was the best as the sound it produced was very degenerated but soo good and one in good condition with a clear but very sweet sound.
I have a dynacord es820 that has a built in digi delay, I love it. I picked the thing from nearby kindergarten, it was going to trash. Used only for amping singing.
THAT'S A BEAST
6:36 Suicide 1977 vibes! Love it man
I had one. Love the overdrive on in too. But the maintenance is too much for me. An El Cap does the job pretty good too.
This wants to be on my iPad.
Also, got my copy of Syn-Ket Studien and promptly blasted the neighborhood. Cheers!
Sweet! Still waiting for mine to appear
That sliding head reminds me of the classic EchoPlex.
I’m so glad I live at the perfect point in human history to experience Hainbach
I really like the ''Presto'' button! Isn't that what a magician says at the final stage of his act? like ''Tadaaaa''!
I love that you're basically playing a Doppler shift.
Lol, I have the same thing in my home. Made some samples on my Hammond with this beast.
i already bought an Uher Report because of you (just the Report ic, not the monitor)...... and now a Dynacord? 🙂Well, maybe i should....... The Uhre is great fun!
Thank you very much, as always.....a great inspiration.
Great as a reverb! Not so much as echo because fixed time
@@Hainbach until now i used it as a tape machine....slowing down, loops, reverse, etc... How would you use it as a reverb?
I've wanted to buy several Dynachord products for years, especially the rotary speaker cabinets, but I just don't have the space
7:37 I own one of those for two decades now, never used it though🥴. There is also a fixed speed ‘button’ version of the exact same model.
This will work so nicely with a noise box.
I bought the slightly simpler version of this a few years ago, the Echocord Mini. The main difference is that it lacks the reverb. I've been meaning to modify it so that I get a wet output, should be simple enough, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
the parts with the drummer one!! oh hells yeah!!!! please just make an album of just rhodes and effects and maybe drummer one... in dub of course
I don't have a tape echo, but I have cheap spring reverb and analogue delay pedals. It's pretty limiting, but I can still create some cool things out of it. I want more synthes and pedals, but I can't afford those things at the moment.
Not gonna be affordable now that this video exists
They put a head on a slider! I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that.
Oo! Brill!
That no-input feedback thing around 4:15 sounds like the kind of stuff they did on the Forbidden Planet soundtrack in the 50s, which was all done with tape.
Huh, just got me thinking - I've got an old reel to reel that I've been meaning to get working for loops and such, and I've also got a tape head on a wand - basically I stuck one on the end of a tube of m&m minis - that I've used to manually play snippets of cut up tape and scratch on magstrip credit cards. So I'm suddenly getting visions of a quick&dirty adjustable-distance tape echo made from the two.
(Of course it wouldn't be that easy for _good_ sound; I know there are alignment issues and any number of details. But it might be worth trying out.)
perfect plan!
The timbre and patina this thing provides alone makes it worth the price plus repair imo. Having that slider be so tactile and playable takes it to a whole other level too. Now... how do I get one to Canada?
I'd like to see you add a volume pedal to that Rhodes and tape echo set up to get some nice sliding volume swells
Oh true!
i have one alike yours. But no text under the knobs, so i don't know what does what :) But it's modded so it does full wet and has jack connection instead of DIN.
Just realize that it's very different to adjust the motor speed and the distance of the playback head.
When adjusting the speed, everything recorded before will be played at a new speed and pitch, when moving the head it's more like in some classic digital delay, there's also a pitch while moving the cursor but when you stop the recorded part is played at the same speed and pitch, the only pitch come from the movement.
It change a lot.. (I prepare some vst that simulate the first behavior) yet i could be good to have the choice of method.
Nice
You might like those old Solina electronic organs, or Eminent. You can get them for free a lot of the times. The problem is they are big and heavy. But they have very cool sounds, especially bass sounds. I have a Solina with a drumcomputer build in which also has interesting sounds and rhythms. And it has a spring reverb. Mine needs cleaning though. I know it has nothing to do with a tape echo but it just popped in my mind.
I already had the mighty CRB Diamond here. Had to go, too big and too much of a repair job. Not getting another organ anytime soon :-)
Sweet
Sounds lovely, I wonder how it would sound if it just had a static tape run through it, so without the echo function, so it would play but you could move the head it was playing through. That may be a whole different instrument though
You could install a poti to turn off the erase head. Something I plan to do.
Great video. Thanks. I traded my Roland rs202 for my mint Dynachord echo chord super s65. At first I regretted it.....until I started playing with the echo chord! It is amazing! I think I like it better than the Roland space echo 201. A beautiful piece for the studio.
Please make a episode with casio cz series thanks
4:16 reminds me of that nin song intro
Analog bucket brigade delay pedals kinda do this too, pretty sure
What a smartly over engineered device. At first glance it's easy to think this was just an oddball incremental design but it really is its own thing with its own sound.
How long until we get a VST recreation of it? 😅
Quiero comprar un efecto Dynacord super 76 para Lima Perú me avisa gracias
yea. I feel the "not working" bit because I have 8 tape echoes and only 2 of them work somewhat ok, funnily they are the oldest ones, EP-2 and NG-51.
Ibanez Echo Shifter (ES3) has a fader like this and is an amazing sounding BBD delay. The fader is great for playing melodies when the delay feedback oscillates. (And it has an LFO and is like €170 new)
I'm awaiting arrival on a Standel Reverbalux 841 oil can delay, which may or may not work. Don't know much about it. Do you have any experience with one? Would make a great video.
Wow, never heard about it. I had a Morley but that came trashed in transit because of stupid packaging. Not repairable
Have you ever tried one of the old echolette units?
I haven’t, simply because I was always looking for space echoes. Now I will take a closer look.
This is extremely musical and percussive
Had one of these, sadly, never worked properly. Evans also has a slider.
Hey Hainbach, where do you think I could get it serviced in the vicinities of Berlin? Thanks!
Maybe Sound Repair in Urbanstrasse If they are still around
@@Hainbach thanks! I will check them out then!
you should check out the multivox mx 312. it has dedicated switches for every repeat head, which makes it super flexible and playable. also it got a sound on sound switch. i made a lot of tracks with this function alone. the sound is surprisingly warmer then from my re-201. unfortunately it's kinda rare.
Oh I think Alex Ball has that one
@@Hainbach yes!
The WEM version of this is what Eddie Van Halen used to do all the guitar whammy-bar divebombs on that 1st Van Halen album.
Eddie going again with the greatness
The slider reminds me of my old Ibanez ES-2 delay, I used to just sit and play that delay as it self-oscilated for ages
It died a few years ago, and the ES-3 is just not the same
Dynacord , that was David Haflers Co. Creator of the first mosfit Amp the dh-200 , I've heard that some of the real to reals have Built-in tape Echo , And they have CV control was Built-in So you can hook them up to your modular analog synthesizer and control them
I don't mean to be a smarty-pants, but you're thinking of Dynaco, the home stereo company. He left Dynaco in the late 70's, and started the Hafler Co.
@@dougllewellyn4620 You're right It was early my eyes hadn't opened all the way yet ,
LOL when i saw no "speed" just presto and adagio i laughed
There’s the Danelectro Reel Echo...digital, but basically the same idea.
Did CAN use the Dynacord?
Likely, they were very popular
Tell me im not the only one who thought this man should produce for travis scott
If only someone would make a new version of this!
Perhaps using Cassette loops?
With contemporary manufacturing technologies (3d printing etc.) it could be small enough to fit on a pedalboard, perhaps with a CV pedal for time manipulation. :)
T-Rex Replicator is similar. But that is cassette size, and you need 1/4" tape really, else it is very lofi.
mr. Hainbach, been searching for a properly skilled person (in Berlin or Germany) to repair my super 76 that has a few problems, do you know of somebody? Would be great help,
Thank you!
Sound Repair in Urbanstrasse fixed up my Copicat
Got one that looks very much like this, but just called "Super", no 76. Much of the text labelling on the controls is just symbols - good to know you've got some info on your Reddit, I'll have to take a look :)
You have the Echocord Super 75 then (built from 1968-1971)
@@bandecho_de good to know, thank you!
Like with all the odd things on this channel... I would so love a vst based on this tape echo.
I know it's tempting to put it on iOS to get touch control of the sliding echo adjustment. But I do hope someone does this on a more accessible plugin format. It's way easier and cheaper to set up a midi fader/slider on a computer than having to invest in an iPad and all the things I do not want to touch or finance in the apple sphere.
I didn't think I'd be hearing about a filthbox in a music education video 😂
Next video is for you then :-)
Please buchla modular
episode thanks
What happened to the OP1?😄
Toured ten years
6:46 not anymore 😂
I had 2 of them in the late 80th and sold them for 50 DM because I wanted a digital delay so much at this time. Today I would give an arm and a leg to get them back for the same money. 😂
I'm coming to this late. But not super late. I'm only seeing super 75s and they're going for close to $1,000. Did the market really change that much since February??? Perhaps your video had an effect? lol
Still see them on eBay in Germany for 400-500
Dynachord Echo? I've heard it all before all before heard it all Echo Dynachord before efore fore
Affordable no longer! Hainbach did a video on it!
Somebody played with a Dynacord EC-504 before, I have my eye on one. Want to pull the trigger on it badly, bank account does not agree though. So I'm looking for someone to tell me it's amazing and I should get it right away. Any takers? :D
Great reverb, not so great delay as its fixed head
if anyone wants to buy one I have one in good working order... the only problem is I'm in Korea. It's worth the shipping though.
I was listening to an actual new release on an official cassette tape a few months ago and was shocked at how much noise there was. I mean even brand new. My ears got spoiled by CD's. Not really so much hiss, as....lack of clarity?
@Chris - Maybe clean your tape path and demagnetize the heads? Any good quality cassette deck should still sound pretty decent.
@@mjrippe thank you very much. I'm using a Walkman from the 90s
Please voyetra 8 episode thanks
at some point 3:35 it sounds like elvin jones🎉