Rolex Daytona: Zenith, In-House vs Ceramic
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- čas přidán 2. 10. 2020
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The guys over at Chronext allowed me to get hands-on with three of their Rolex Daytonas. I compare the latest 3 versions of the Rolex Daytona: Zenith vs In-House vs Ceramic.
Rolex Daytona 16520 (Zenith Daytona)
Rolex Daytona 116520 (In-house Movement)
Rolex Daytona 116500 (Ceramic Daytona)
The Rolex Daytona is probably the most iconic chronograph, alongside the Omega Speedmaster. In my opinion, the Rolex Daytona is a better-looking watch than the Omega Speedmaster. However, the Omega Speedmaster is significantly easier and cheaper to buy.
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What watch are you wearing on that gray Nato Strap at the beginning of the video?
Rolex didn't modify it. The design was specifically done by zenith on rolex requests
@fredo: Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical 38mm White Dial
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Tyrannimo89 the code should be global. It only works with the minimum spend of £5000, or equivalent. Let me know if you’re spending over £5,000 and it still doesn’t work and I’ll get them to check it.
116520 - I absolutely love the steel bezel. That would be my choice
The best Daytona is the one you can buy
That’s a good point.
So a citizen?
AD put me on a waiting list just yesterday. It’ll be my first Rolex.
Should be any day now🤞
@Sleve McDichael
The platitude versions are even harder to come by.
Preceramic Black dial, ceramic White dial that's my choise 😉
A 16520 Zenith Daytona cost a brick jouse to service! Just sold mine unserviced since Rolex AD claimed that service parts are becoming scarce on the Zenith 16520 movement and the service price is 60 % more expensive than on the 116520/116500 which is already not cheap.
Another reason for the steap service price on a Zenith movement is that it consists of a lot more (non Rolex) parts, in total more than 30 % additional components to service for Rolex i.e. takes longer time to disassemble/assemble/clean/exchange etc.
ADVISE/WARNING: Only buy a Zenith Daytona if you plan NOT to wear it!!!
how much was it
All of these are stunning. When I decided to get one I looked at everything, went and held everyone of these in my hand. After weighing up all the differences I went with the 16520, it was between the two older models as I feel that in the long run they will hold their value best. I went with the 16520 ad not only did I like the small details better, the size of the subdials, that they are a little bit smaller and placed a tad lower on the dial, that they do not have the shiny silver surround. That the left subdial is the running seconds, something I feel is more in line with where I think this should be as Speedmasters and other have it there too.The thinner more elegant hands, the smaller time markers. Some say as tritium lose it's shine after a couple of decades the luminova version is better but I like that the tritium change colour and also change the way it works, makes it more vintage, more interesting. I will ALWAYS go for the tritium version of any watch given the choise. The last years fall of the prices specially for the ceramic model whilst the 16520 has lost much less value I think shows which model that will gain more in value as time goes by.
Great video Adrian, the movement shots was so amazing. We love your videos related to amazing knowledge on differences on models numbers of Daytona.
My favourite is the Zenith-Daytona, I like the thinner hands (which you occasionally find in some 116520, but rarely), and the finer and longer "boat shape" hour markers, I feel it looks more refined. Also love the sub-dials location, they have a better placement, more symmetric and aligned with the 3 hands mov. The 16520 has so many variance, the 4 lines, floating dial, inverted 6, porcelain dial, and the various bezels marking... This is the oldest "modern day" Daytona as we know it today.
As someone who had some wrist time with all 3 versions, i a gree with you 100%.
116520 - white dial. Prettiest watch ever made, period.
I have a 116520 black and regretted not getting the white too when the price wasn't as crazy... I remember seeing one for sale on a AD store but I just didn't have the money to afford another one back then...
A super userful video! Always wanted a comparison video on all three Daytona models! Thank you Adrian:)
Ceramic Daytona is the only watch anyone will ever need. Dressy, Casual, Sporty. You can wear it anywhere, anytime. Theres a reason why they are 2x list price. Demand demand demand. The people have spoken. As far as I am concerned all models will continue to increase with no end in sight. Great content as always
Thanks Adrian, informative as ever, every day is a school day for me as I’m still learning about the differences 🚒👍
Love this video. Not only does it feature my grail watch but it’s such an informative video and expertly put together by Adrian 👍
Great topic Adrian! Any idea of indicative prices one can expect to pay for each?
High quality video, love it! The Daytona is such a beautiful and legendary watch!!
3 of the heavyweights of the Rolex division for sure.....very iconic watches. I've had a Zenith bi metal, 116520 and would love the latest ceramic bezel one love the black touches on the sub dials has to be a white dial for me. Great watch comparisons Adrian!
Great video. I prefer the horizontal alignment on the bezel of the 116520. And the more subdued silver sub-dial rings. I kinda wish the chronograph sub-dials aligned with the centre pinions. But it still looks great. Despite the Rolex specs, the case is more like 38.2mm. And there were different marks within each reference with the 116520 receiving Chromalight indices and hands. Keep up the great work!
I had the Zenith version for a while and eventually let it go as I just didn’t connect with it on an emotional level... that said, it’s amazing on the wrist and I loved the feedback of the pushers and crown. A great watch to wear - even if for some models it’s challenging to tell the time :)
I just got the 116520 a week ago....and I absolutely LOVE it!!
I think I would go for the 116520. Looks incredible, wears really well, the movement is great and it's very slim for a Chronograph. It's a near if not perfect chronograph imo. 👌🏻 Great Video Adrian!
I have 4 daytonas. Both of these newer steel daytonas & a bi metal zenith. I cant get my head around why people prefer these zeniths. The watch feels so much flimsier. Favourite for me is the ceramic without a doubt.
Great video Adrian. Ideally , it would be nice to have them side by side and try them on. Rolex watches always look so much better in person and I suspect it would be much easier to decide between the 116520 and the 116500 simply by comparing black vs shiny silver bezel. Picture and video I prefer the 116520 but I suspect in real life it would be the 116500.
The exact video I was looking for. Great info and awesome authentic reaction to which watch you'd prefer!
As has always been the case with any Sub, regarding the current Daytona if you’re planning on wearing it with suits on a regular basis it’s best to select the black dial variant.
I own the white dial 116520 and the bezel plays the light in different ways. Sometimes it is sparkly white, sometimes black and sometimes it looks like the polished metal it is. The C-tona just has a black bezel that is less dynamic in regards to how it plays the light.
The same argument can be made for the white dial vs the black dial. White is just bright and pops on the wrist whereas black is just dark in all light conditions.
I love the black ceramic, but I think I'd end up with the 116520. The all around steel is just understated in a way that the ceramic isn't
1:57 Although you're right, there's actually an easier-to-remember way to distinguish a Zenith from a non-Zenith model, one that can't be unseen: draw/imagine a line from the 9 to the 3 marker. The sub-registers' center is not aligned properly on the non-Zenith models to the diameter of the dial. Ugly AF imho...
What the actual fck? There’s no going back from here haha
Oh boy
My OCD radar has just maxed out at 11 ! That is on par with being told about Santa Claus ! 😢
@@stuartniven1220 Believe me, I know how you feel
There is no rule that says they must be crossing that horizontal line equidistantly. Making the subdials larger was one of the things they managed without increasing the case size, the tradeoff was making those subdials slightly higher.
I like the first two steel bezel more, and i would choose the 116520 for : Super luminova (tritium is dead after 20 years or less) , 72h power reserve and (as i red on watch forums) simpler movement to service (so fewer work hours and so less expensive). Now i need 17.000€ or more to buy one on the grey market ! :)
You are absolutely right!!!! the ceramic is sporty while the none ceramic is possibly a bit more dressy. I agree I would own both 116520 & 116500.
I actually own the 116520 white dial and steel bezel and it’s an absolute masterpiece, works very nicely alongside my ceramic Submariner
The later versions of the 16520 did have super luminova and solid endlink bracelets. I think they were both introduced in 1999.
I love the Zenith purely because the centre of the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock subdials line up perfectly with the 3 and 9 on the dial where as the later versions don't , they are raised and it doesn't even get close for me.
Had both a (white) 116520 and a (black) 16520 for a number of years. While superior technically (movement, bracelet), I just sold the 116520 to keep only the 16520. It is more refined, and that Zenith movement just make it a bit more special in my view, despite its limitations (non-hacking, smaller power reserve).
Great knowledge thx for sharing
Great video as usual. I noticed that the lug-to-lug dimensions for the 11650 is 46.5 mm compared to the two other models that are 47 mm. You didn’t highlight this detail so I am uncertain if it was just a typo? All the best!
Had a 2007 for 12 years now and love it. Would buy a ceramic, if only my AD would sell me one, alas I’m not a good enough customer!!
I've dropped over $100k at my AD and he asked me for a "trade" "my original 50th anniversary Sub or my Hulk)to get in line for a new 41mm something or other. LOL, I don't want to trade anything so I guess I'll be waiting to stumble across one in some AD in East Bum F.
@@chipmacgill your AD doesnt seem to appreciate his customers...
The 4130 movement is just so smooth it's unreal. You can run the 4130 all day long and it will only affect the 70 hour power reserve by a measly 2 hours!
Thanks for the nice comparison. For me the one in the middle. But too expensive currently.
That's a really interesting dive into one of the coolest watches out there.
Interesting vid. It would have been worthwhile to include the two tone as well. Those are actually still available without paying absolutely insane over retail.
Ever since I saw video pointing out the fact that the Daytona has asymmetrical lugs, I can't un-see it. Still love this watch ... simply the best proportioned and easy to wear chronograph out there.
My next Rolex will be a Daytona. However, it’s been impossible to get and grey market is crazy 😢
Love that all steel version.
The latest production 2014-2016 of the 116520 has chromalight too..
The 16520 is amazing with its story regarding the zenith movement and I really like the more symmetric look of the subdials.
I opted for the pre ceramic version simply due to the more classic, elegant looks.
Definitely go Black Dial Steel Bezel! It's just so shiny and nice in real life. I have a 116500 and I'd swap it for a steel bezel in a second!
My favorite is the ceramic one, it’s suites better my laid back lifestyle, nice video, greetings from Puerto Rico!
Ceramic for me, awesome video again thank you for sharing Adrian
How about the Daytona APH Error Dial? Is it more valuable?
Great Video! New Ceramic Bezel 116500 is the best.
116520 all steel is the best one for me... saying that, what you really want is all 3 !!
Hi Adrian, if I had the choice and money, I‘d go for the ceramic one. I love the black and white contrast between the bezel and dial plus it is less prone to scratches. Great presentation of differences between models
That's the one I'd pick too.
Great video, it's between the 116520 & 116500 fo me :) What watch is on your wrist?
Not to forget, also a change self-winding movement . To start with 16520
20k on a Daytona... one thing stops me, A. Lange and Sohne 😶
Absolutely spot on sir! I’m always drawn to ALS👍
not really the same watches though. I am kind of done with Rolex as well and looking at Breguet and Lange, but aren't they really "dress" watches?
Lange’s chronograph costs double of Daytona
Totally agree!! I actually have the latest panda Daytona but selling it to fund a proper watch!! 😈
The Datograph isnt a steel sports chrono. When you buy a Daytona, youre buying heritage thats imo more interesting and cooler than a Lange Datograph.
Hi. I had brought 116500 two weeks ago.. It's a beautiful timepieces.
I'm confused y why the reduction of bpm is a credit in a chrono meant to run race time at 10th of a second intervals. Would like some info. :)
I bought a Daytona 116520 a few years ago and love it, the weight is right and it wears well with a suit and jeans. I find the black dial is easier to read in the sun.
Nice video. Next up...can you help me understand exactly what a Paul Newman Daytona is?
Thanks Adrian 👍.
The daytona is definitely a grail watch for me. Also I'm a big fan of panda dials. So the 116500 checks off so many boxes for me.
Yet another great video. I would like to see a video of the Lange 1 🙏
Thanks Richard. I’d love to get hands on with a Lange 1. 👍🏻
I went with the Zenith because, tritium, black sub dials with steel bezel. I like the contrast. :-)
A little bit off topic here, but I received a bark and jack Nato strap today black 22mm, folks I strongly recommend these top quality and very comfy 👍😊 will buy again
Golden year for the Daytona is 1998: 16520 with tritium dial and SEL bracelet. 1 year production. Grail.
No mention of the black dial. I know everyone seem to prefer the white, but do you have any views on the black one, which I think I prefer?
I love that ceramic one... probably the only Rolex that does anything for me... that white face with the black rimmed subdials is just incredible... stunning imagery as usual Adrian!
Yeah I needed up falling for the ceramic one. It’s just so cool.
I bought a 16523 Zenith Daytona 2 years ago. It has been an amazing watch and wears nice. It has risen in value but I have no reason to sell it. Its always a good day when it’s on the wrist!
Great video dude. Thanks again for creating content.
Love this and the return of the tables (the geek in me). Would also love to see a pre ‘88 video. Love it; I can’t decide either...
The brushed lugs on the zenith are the standout for me.
Awesome video ! Thank you
I had a ceramic bezel fitted to my 16520 and it looks fantastic. Retro watch with ceramic bezel works a treat!
yikes but I think I like it
Excellent video, thanks Adrian!
What are your thoughts on the Zenith Chronomaster Sport? I didn't have it on my wrist yet, but it looks stunning and sort of like the pretty cousin of the Daytona.
I bought the Parnis version. It's a great design for sure.
I'd go for the 116520, the ceramic is too blingy for me.
Why are the watchmakers in the chronext pictures not wearing fingercots?
I agree with you Adrian, the new versions look so much better!!
Thanks for watching buddy. 👍🏻
Its interesting you stated that daytona c has 0.5mm shorter lug than 116520. I thought the cases are 100% the same. Anyway I gave up 116520 black dial and move toward the ceramic white just because the dial is really hard to read. Way too shinny..
Definitely would go for the ceramic daytona with the white dial!
Adrian, I'm biased - but I would also have to pick the 116520. I was fortunate enough to get a new one over ten years ago. I love its classic look and yes, the movement is fabulous. But for me it was simply the classic elegance of this watch that I like. It is by far the most comfortable watch to wear. I can safely predict that I will never part with it.
Do 16610, fat lug ceramic sub and new 41mm sub comparison. Would be very interesting 👍
Ceramic,the best.I liked it so much that I've bought the black dial first and later the white dail 😅👍🏻good video
In my opinion the 16520 white dial is the most beautiful modern daytona, followed by the 116520 black dial.
The ceramic gives its best with gold cases, f.e. the 116515ln is simply gorgeous!
I've the black ceramic Daytona and love it
You forgot to mention that black sub dials on the zenith look so, so much cooler than the silver sub dials on the 116520.
The slimmer hour marker on the Zenith gets me, but the newest panda is the one I would buy.
Steel bezel for me.
Any coffee machine recommendations ?
I personally own the black dial 116500. LOVE IT!!!
what's your opinion on the asymmetric lugs Adrian... how come no one talks about it?
is that a kahaki mechanical white on your wrist?
I traded my DeepSea for a white dial 116520. I initially felt I was settling since I wanted the Panda. The more I wear this watch, the more I’ve grown to love it. However, with that said, I’d still trade towards the Panda if the opportunity came up! Both are amazing!
116520 black dial and a 16520 white dial on a leather strap would make a great pair.
i purchased a Black face 116520 in 2012 which my wife has stolen from me pretty much since day1... she tends to treat timepieces like a case of lipstick and just dump everything in her bag on many occasion where it has been shaken like a cocktail with coins, rings, bracelet, cellphones etc... Didnt take long for the steel bezel to become a swirly piece of art. so what i did was I swapped out the steel bezel with an aftermarket ceramic bezel and that problems was solved at least :D
If only I needed this information for such a decision
My favorite Dayton is with the Maserati blue dial.
Definitely 116500, everything is superb. Especially Loving the ceramic tachymeter that gives a nice contrast to the white dial. Just more elegant imo.
Very nice review Adrian. The Steel Daytonas are very difficult to get hold off. Would be nice if you could also share your thoughts on the Gold/Steel variants like the 16523 which also house a Zenith movement.
Faiz Hashim yeah good question I’m also a fan of the 16523 it’s the underdog that’s not mentioned a lot, it’s basically the same watch with some gold ...
I like the two tone version in the Zenith and the early 4130s.
116520 all the way. Great vid as always mate!
You cannot tell the time on the daytona...rather have an OP?
I’ve tried bothe and the ceramic is 🔥🔥🔥