I have a pair of Dowler boots in pull up leather (with the rubber sole). I couldn't be happier with them. My foot is between 9 1/2 to 10, and little on the wide side. I went with a size 10 (BS doesn't do E+ widths) and they fit very well. My heel is locked in but not pinched, and the toe box provides plenty of room. Break in time was minimal, too. I think your review is spot on. This was my first pair of boots. Boot heads notice them. They have a more narrow, almond (read: European) shape, and they definitely stand out to folks who know, y'know? With that said, they are my first pair of boots. I will probably move on to a different company for pair #2. Thanks for the honest review.
Hey welcome back brother! Congrats on married life. Heres my take on Beckett Simonon, I bought a pair of double monks back in 2020 from them. My complaints are for the pricing and whole lead time thing. The price increases makes them very close to Meermin and Carmina on sale and for the small upcharge, I would rather get those brands instead of BS. Additionally, with modern shipping and supply chain, there is no way that it would ever take 2-3 months to make a shoe. No other brand functions like this and it really is a profit increasing tactic by them at this point. Thanks for the review though!
Ahhhh good to see you bro! Your take is perfect. I think there is a place for the newbie boot guy at this house, but you are right. Much better options for the seasoned.
Respectfully, what are you talking about? Both of your points are completely misguided. For a direct comparison, Carmina monkstraps start at $550 and go up from there. If you want to use an occasional sale price (highly doubtful under $300) you also have to account for BS’s common promotions as low as $170 for a pair of shoes or boots. Overall are Carmina shoes a better product? Absolutely. But for $170, I’ll take BS all day every day. Secondly, how do you not understand BS’s business model and long lead time given you are a past customer? The wait time has nothing to do with shipping or supply chain, it’s entirely due to the completely handmade, made to order process. The monkstraps you ordered weren’t in the works until you ordered them. It’s how they maintain their industry leading emission standards and B Corp certification, and brings with it the long wait time. I would also love to hear your logic about how customers waiting 2-3 months “increases profits” for them.
@@mhb1081 so you want me to wait for sales on an inferior product instead of waiting for sales on a better product. And then want me to believe that a company that doesn’t hold unsold inventory isn’t increasing its profits by doing so. Let me rephrase you want me to believe that a company that drives down the cost of storage by only making what is sold isn’t doing that to increase profits. Sounds like every company should be doing that then and you should be the CEO right?
@@JokeSwag im genuinely lost at what point you’re trying to make? In every company in every industry across the world, there are products at various price points and accordingly various qualities. Are you saying BS should not try to make a profit to remain sustainable… like every single other company does? By diminishing BS trying to make a profit by reducing inventory cost, are you implying Carmina doesn’t raise costs to offset their inventory to make a profit? Making an argument of just buying the better product makes no sense when that product is 2-3x the price. I never said that someone shouldn’t buy carmina shoes, they are an amazing product and if you can afford it, then go for it. I simply said BS reduces many of the overheads consumers pay for behind the scenes with traditional retail. Find me a single other company making completely hand made footwear with equivalent or better leather, working conditions, environmental policies, and employee benefits, for under $170, and I’ll shut up.
@@mhb1081 I'm making the original point that I made 4 weeks ago. BS has every right to do what they want. I have every right to buy from Carmina regardless. And I have the right to steer people to Carmina over BS. And no you don't have to shut up. I couldn't care less what you spend your money on or who you give it to.
Reviewing boots you can’t wear because they’re the wrong size is pointless. $189 on sale now for a handmade boot is one of the best deals on the market.
It’s not that they do not fit me they are just tight. I can come to a good conclusion knowing about the shoe, having them in hand, feeling them, and looking at them. I spent 5 years in the high end shoe industry. I am well versed. And for the money are okay. My opinion is just to put that money toward a better shoe. And yes they are “hand made” but not in a region or country known for boots. Just cuz something is “hand made” doesn’t make them good. Thanks for your thoughts!
I have a pair of Dowler boots in pull up leather (with the rubber sole). I couldn't be happier with them. My foot is between 9 1/2 to 10, and little on the wide side. I went with a size 10 (BS doesn't do E+ widths) and they fit very well. My heel is locked in but not pinched, and the toe box provides plenty of room. Break in time was minimal, too.
I think your review is spot on. This was my first pair of boots. Boot heads notice them. They have a more narrow, almond (read: European) shape, and they definitely stand out to folks who know, y'know?
With that said, they are my first pair of boots. I will probably move on to a different company for pair #2.
Thanks for the honest review.
Hey welcome back brother! Congrats on married life. Heres my take on Beckett Simonon, I bought a pair of double monks back in 2020 from them. My complaints are for the pricing and whole lead time thing.
The price increases makes them very close to Meermin and Carmina on sale and for the small upcharge, I would rather get those brands instead of BS.
Additionally, with modern shipping and supply chain, there is no way that it would ever take 2-3 months to make a shoe. No other brand functions like this and it really is a profit increasing tactic by them at this point.
Thanks for the review though!
Ahhhh good to see you bro!
Your take is perfect. I think there is a place for the newbie boot guy at this house, but you are right. Much better options for the seasoned.
Respectfully, what are you talking about? Both of your points are completely misguided.
For a direct comparison, Carmina monkstraps start at $550 and go up from there. If you want to use an occasional sale price (highly doubtful under $300) you also have to account for BS’s common promotions as low as $170 for a pair of shoes or boots. Overall are Carmina shoes a better product? Absolutely. But for $170, I’ll take BS all day every day.
Secondly, how do you not understand BS’s business model and long lead time given you are a past customer? The wait time has nothing to do with shipping or supply chain, it’s entirely due to the completely handmade, made to order process. The monkstraps you ordered weren’t in the works until you ordered them. It’s how they maintain their industry leading emission standards and B Corp certification, and brings with it the long wait time.
I would also love to hear your logic about how customers waiting 2-3 months “increases profits” for them.
@@mhb1081 so you want me to wait for sales on an inferior product instead of waiting for sales on a better product.
And then want me to believe that a company that doesn’t hold unsold inventory isn’t increasing its profits by doing so. Let me rephrase you want me to believe that a company that drives down the cost of storage by only making what is sold isn’t doing that to increase profits.
Sounds like every company should be doing that then and you should be the CEO right?
@@JokeSwag im genuinely lost at what point you’re trying to make? In every company in every industry across the world, there are products at various price points and accordingly various qualities.
Are you saying BS should not try to make a profit to remain sustainable… like every single other company does? By diminishing BS trying to make a profit by reducing inventory cost, are you implying Carmina doesn’t raise costs to offset their inventory to make a profit?
Making an argument of just buying the better product makes no sense when that product is 2-3x the price. I never said that someone shouldn’t buy carmina shoes, they are an amazing product and if you can afford it, then go for it.
I simply said BS reduces many of the overheads consumers pay for behind the scenes with traditional retail. Find me a single other company making completely hand made footwear with equivalent or better leather, working conditions, environmental policies, and employee benefits, for under $170, and I’ll shut up.
@@mhb1081 I'm making the original point that I made 4 weeks ago. BS has every right to do what they want. I have every right to buy from Carmina regardless. And I have the right to steer people to Carmina over BS.
And no you don't have to shut up. I couldn't care less what you spend your money on or who you give it to.
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Leather soles are cool IMO....every other boot in the world has rubber soles, think I'll get these for a little sole diversity. 🤣
To each their own. The leather doesn’t do well in MN winters, I’ll stick with rubber.
Minnesota ? You really look like people in Fargo,no offence,crazy movie and series😂
Reviewing boots you can’t wear because they’re the wrong size is pointless. $189 on sale now for a handmade boot is one of the best deals on the market.
It’s not that they do not fit me they are just tight. I can come to a good conclusion knowing about the shoe, having them in hand, feeling them, and looking at them. I spent 5 years in the high end shoe industry. I am well versed. And for the money are okay. My opinion is just to put that money toward a better shoe. And yes they are “hand made” but not in a region or country known for boots. Just cuz something is “hand made” doesn’t make them good. Thanks for your thoughts!