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How the Hawks pulled off the upset of 2023 as Magpie blueprint becomes clearer - Sunday Footy Show
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- čas přidán 4. 08. 2023
- The Sunday Footy Show panel analyses Hawthorn's incredible upset win over the league-leading Collingwood.
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Damo can we please hear you analysis of how Hawthorn's tanking has evolved throughout the season? Really unique use of the tactic this season I've not seen before
He's pathetic isn't he. Incapable of giving Hawthorn any praise. Could only speak of Collingwood's shortcomings
Didn’t even speak about hawthorn. All about Collingwood, joke
Damo is a massive flog….
@@frankmachin5438 can’t believe I used to like him
@@harperleonard1292 praise for what,what have they done
So, Barrett, can you explain how the ladder leaders can get SMASHED by a team that you reckon are tanking ? I would love to know
Before 16th, after win to 16th. 17-18 locked at 8. Afford to try now n again.
@@georgepagotelis So you're telling me that you're as dim as Barrett?
Your argument isn't what you think it is. Barrett could use the win to say see they are tanking that's why they don't come out like that every week 😂
@@joshuasadler9243 so tell me this...do you think they're tanking?
Tanking is done to finish last not third last
No real surprise that Hawks beat the Pies, the different between Hawks best and worst is huge! They really are a fun and exciting young team, who with time should find more consistency and be right back up there! - North take note!
They will make the finals again in 2025 and become a powerhouse again
Mitchell is a back stabber like Jeff kennett.. they put clarko under the bus with a smirk
@@SV0747yeah probably come back to bite them but their list management is superb
@@SV0747Mitchel did not stab anyone in the back
Everyone could see he was going to be a great coach and when Collingwood went after Mitchel it forced hawthorn to act quickly
Clarko was a great coach but made some big mistakes after 2015
Hey Damo are the hawks still tanking ya flog !!!
From the "most irrelevant team in the competition" to "so proud", thanks Kane. Your opinions do change ever so quickly.
Kanes a pencil neck flog
Barrett how are the tanking comments ageing?
Hawks really were the far better side on the day.
First to the ball, harder around the contest and cleaner with their ball movement. Smashed them in clearances!
Yes they are a couple of years off, but you can clearly see they have the foundations of a good side.
Lewis up forward, the young mids (Day and Newcombe) and Sicily playing the general down back. A team on the rise! 🦅
Well done Hawks, looked amazing. As a Pies fan we need to tighten up.
I saw it in Moore's body language when he went to shake Sicily's hand before the game started
Why have they being laughing coming off the ground v Carlton and hawks?
I saw the premiership cup in his hands too Lol
Complacency has crept in to the Pies performances, a string of wins can do that. Oddly enough injuries may prove to be a catalyst to bring in players such as Macrae and Bianco who are hungry and in good touch - and that could well rejuvenate the group. Wouldn't be the first time that has happened, and it can bring about less predictability in their game style.
They better hope so. You turn up like that and your players are more likely to get hurt which happened.
Thats not why players get hurt !!
@@grantmckay6429 it's literally basic footy knowledge if your a step off, it increases your chances of getting hurt. Its also apart of the reason why the increase in speed at that level can be dangerous to new players who could potentially find themselves in no man's land or leaving themselves open to fair but crunching plays which both can happen in the same situation. Happened to alot of the Irish boys that come over but they are naturally tough.
@joshuasadler9243 Fair call , you make a good point Josh.
@@grantmckay6429 thanks mate. Still just super frustrated with how badly they let themselves down.
Daicos out for 6 weeks, hairline fracture
Dead right llordo, when sides are odds on double chance, it's this time of year you up the intensity at training. You rest your injury carrier's, and at the least give them lesser roles so they recover.
There's only one time of the year you need to peak for, when you've sown up the home final
Port out in straight sets too
Kane won't mention them much. No blueprints on them haha
Kane Cornes has been saying to bring the tagger back into the game for years, and now it's taking effect... painfully obvious to say
Daicos is out for six weeks. Cornes has a lot to answer for in calling for unfair physical pressure to be directed at him. The media has what it wanted in an injured Daicos.
Blanck clearly tried to hurt Daicos who could not stop after taking a mark.
Blanck did his job. You think daicos should get it as easy as he has so far? I don’t know why more aren’t targeting him physicallly
@@danelk7172your the type to be the first one to complain when Collingwood do anything
Hawks did try to hurt daicos from start hope karma returns the favour
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Anything to deflect from your lads getting absolutely pantsed by a bottom feeder 😂😂😂😂
Pies too soft. We've known this for many weeks. They don't like hard footy. All nancys
Last time I looked hard at the ball and contest was part of our great game! Go watch basketball if you feel that way! Look how ward was smashed by pies player got up and went on! And the bump daicos got did not hurt his knee that was an accident in a tackle or stoppage! Players hurt there knees every week! Geez you have pies are wingers! Go hawkers😂
The Navy blueprint on how to beat the wobbles;-)
We'd had played progressively worse for weeks now. If it wasn't for a handful of players each week and our system holding up we would be on a decent losing streak besides maybe the port game which we also got a little lucky
@@joshuasadler9243 Add to that several home and away matches in the second half of last season plus the two home and away matches against the Crows this season, all matches that the Magpies had no right to be winning. You cover up your weaknesses when you are constantly getting out of jail, and you start to believe that you are a lot better than what you really are. Collingwood have been covering up weaknesses for the past 12-18 months, but now that teams are figuring them out these weaknesses are getting brutally exposed. Their current ladder position should flatter them.
Hawks are gonna make finals next year watch it happen, sam mitchel has cloned a team of himself
Lmfao.... way to inconsistent...2026 maybe
Haha 2 average teams beat the Pies, now they're flag favourites!! Hahaha!
Lloyd change his mind every 2 weeks
Pies out in straight sets
Who do you Barack for?
@@frustralia4293 I Barack for Obama
@frustralia4293
We know who you barrack for hahaha
Triggered
@@jamest3085wouldn't suprise me if you've been to epstine island either 😂
@@jamest3085lol.
I can't remember a harder year to pick the best sides. But I think Collingwood rely to much on spectacular goals to win the premiership.
I'll add to that. They rely far too much on spectacular comebacks as well. We saw what happened this week when Hawthorn kept them at arms length all throughout the evening and didn't allow this to happen. The Magpies folded more easily than origami paper.
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 to be fair they are 2 games ahead and percentage so mentally I don't think they would be at their most desperate best at the moment. But both our reasons make a lot of sense.
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 we have been playing progressively worse. Besides the gold coast and port matches we have been mostly terrible. Your take on things is one of a nuffie
I'll give credit to Lloyd & Cornes for at least giving some praise to Mitchell & the hawks after the flack they gave them at the start of the year. Caro too put her hand up on Classified & admitted she was wrong about the hawks. Yet still nothing from Barrett. His only 2 comments were about the pies. He has shown his true colours as a vindictive shallow man who stubbornly refuses to admit he's wrong.
Dead rubber for the Pies with Port losing 4 in a row
Round 24 in 2011 was a dead rubber for the Magpies as well. Remember what happened? Geelong smashed them by 96 points. They thought they they could just switch off end then switch back on for the finals. Fast forward 4 weeks. Geelong holds Collingwood goalless in the final quarter of the Grand Final and wins by 38 points to deny the Magpies back to back premierships.
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 There's nothing to be done about it, you can't manufacture blockbuster pressure if the game means nothing no matter how hard you try
Agree need 1 win
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 Steven dank and charters injected geelong 💉 💉
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 and Thompson Is a convicted dealer
Gotta watch the kangaroos v dees... matchfixing at its finest.
Us pies were blind
The lower sides always perform well towards the end of the season. I don't understand why you 'experts' don't understand the 'giant killer' phenomenon of Ozzie rules.
Also, last week's Blues' win over the Pies, was another Historical idiosyncrasy of the historical rivalry between the Blues and the Pies. Usually, whoever is lower on the ladder, wins.
In both cases, the players somehow dig deep to play above themselves, for the team and for personal pride. Ain't that what makes footy great?
Mihochek doesn't score goals...OK Kane.
Another much needed loss. Go Pies!!
you got smashed by a bottom 4 team...😂
That's what all the analysts said last week about the pies.. you sure this week's the same.?? Let's see what happens Friday Night against the Cats. Bet you might say the same thing 3 weeks in a row if the pies lose again.🤨
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@brycem0 you.remenber that bottom 4 side enjoy watching finals
The front on challenge which was designed to hurt Daicos has in fact done that to the tune of 6 weeks. Not comfortable with that tactic as it is straight out of the Sam Mitchell manual that hurt Nathan Fyfe affecting his career from that moment on.
Not nearly as late as Murphys hit, just designed to apply pressure. Body spoils are a legitimate tactic. Sucks for Naicos but it is what it is.
so what's Blanck supposed to do ? probably good that he braced so much that he didn't cause Nick a head injury.
Bro didnt bump with the intention of injurying him u nuffy, nothing about it was reportable or malicious it was just a good bump with both players going towards the flight of the ball.
@@samuelrowland6997 yeah exactly, in this exact scenario Nick's head or upper body couldve been hit as hard and then this would've been a really really really sad conversation.
Your spot on just the haters are always going to hate.
We've been seeing it with Port Adelaide these past few weeks, and now it's happening with Collingwood as well. Both of these teams have gotten too comfortable with their positions on the ladder, complacency has set in, and as a result of it they are just a fraction off their game. It only takes for you to be a fraction off your game in an elite sporting competition like the AFL for a much lesser fancied opposition to beat you. Port Adelaide held a position in the top 2 for most of the season on false bravado. Six of the 13 wins in a row that they had were by 10 points or less, 4 of them were by under a goal, 2 of these being with kicks after the siren that went their way. We are now seeing the real Port Adelaide as everyone had tipped them to be prior to the start of the season. As for Collingwood, they have been covering up their weaknesses for the past 12-18 months because they have been good enough to win many matches that they had no right to be winning. Eventually this catches up with you, and we are seeing it now. Opposition teams are figuring them out. And September is just around the corner with the dreaded Colliwobbles now echoing louder and louder.
Ports problem is that they have zero depth to cover any of their injuries, just look at their SANFL team
Well said
Sydney played well last year all year. What happened in the granny? Send us your pointless essay response
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Hawks would have won by 12 goals if Mitchell, O'meara and Gunston were playing according to Damo, the muppet.
The tanking is working out well don’t you think Damo? Or you can we lose by 50pts? Ha
Chose to bump a young player late with no play on the ball resulting in a broken knee- Kane kornes called degoey a weak dog for bumping Hewitt late which resulted in a head injury. This one by blanck just good hard footy to Kane I guess?
Dude, what are you expecting Blanck to do there? You realise he is stationary at the point of contact and it is Daicos who hits him. It is no comparison to De Goey, who jumped off the ground to clean up Hewitt, and had multiple other courses of action
You're allowed to stand your ground in AFL. This ain't soccer.
Another deluded Pies fan....
You lot are incredible. The worst fan base in the world of sport.
Afl is a corrupt unit
Bruh how can you not see the difference between someone stopping and lowering his body to not hit the players head, and degoey jumping off the ground to KO someone?
I hope dees get knocked out in straight sets... one of the most obvious fixed afl matches
It's all a stage show bud but the tides turning
what are you talking about clown?
Wheres the ginnivan rule gone? Doesnt exist any more haha ..afl is not a legit competition
2015 Hawthorn win the flag and North make the prelim final, yet look where both clubs are now? The Hawks are a glaring indictment on North Melbourne's incompetent administration.
i don't care what the other farking teams are doing i just wanna see my beloved collingwood recapture their connection to each other & get back to their best. i want to see them go out on friday night & knock off the cats & effectively knock geelong out of the finals race & show no mercy & i wanna see collingwood go all the way so we can stick it right up everyone who loves to write us off. you don't understand what the players of my team is capable of. i think you really underestimate what they can do. they should get that connection back & when the pies have that connection with each other as we have seen prior to the last few weeks then no side gets close to beating collingwood & i wanna see my team bury sides more & not give the opposition anymore chances just they need to close them out once they get more than four or five goals up. yes show no mercy is a good saying that is what we need to do & the past few weeks if we have been the hunted we need to get back on the hunt & be the hunters again & really close out the home & away season really well as we near to the finals. go the pies !
All Sunday no it all comments
A couple of injuries and Collingwood turned into West Coast, hahah
The media and Pies fans need to remember that flags aren't won in July
We been on a downward trend since even before the Gold Coast game. Wasn't injuries we were getting beaten before them but if it sounds good aye
I haven't seen much celebrating from their coach since he celebrated the win over Port Adelaide in mid-July like they'd just won the premiership. Back to Earth with an almighty thud. They haven't won since.
All you flogs said premierships aren't won in July or august. Now we lost 2 in a row. You all changed your tune you bunch of flogs
No but they’re won in September Lol
Who cares, they are still 16th and will stay there next year too
Lions, Power, and Lions falling apart. Setting it up for another Demons premiership.
This aged well
@@sasukextcz I am a Carlton fan, but yeah. Bad start for the game for the Dees. I expect them to catch up though.
@@clarkclements7204the Clarko ambush lol. But dees should’ve known that the north they faced in rd 7 wouldn’t be a pushover like then.
The fans still wouldn't turn up 😂😂😂😂
You almost had a pride of lions in your comment .
The pies need all of these losses in order to win the flag. In fact they need to lose every game for the rest of the year. Also Diacos is being bullied by Hawthorn as they actually defended him. No one is allowed to go near him or it's bullying
Geelong didn't need any losses for the entire second half of last season in order to win the flag. Did you forget in a hurry that Geelong won its last 16 matches in a row to win the Grand Final and the 2022 premiership? Losing now won't make a scrap of difference for Collingwood. They're still gonna have to overcome the dreaded Colliwobbles if they're to have any chance of making it to the Grand Final and winning the 2023 premiership.
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 bomber Thompson doped up the entire Geelong team. He is a convicted drug dealer
Pies are pretenders, how do you lose to a bottom 3 side a month away from the finals lmao
Ok righto
Pies are pretenders?! Lose 2 in a row and still be two clear on the ladder. That's kick-arse pretending on steroids.
I’ve drank sour milk that’s aged better than this drivel
collingwood are just way overhyped, umpires gave them 2 games against the crows when the crows were a lot better, they lost to carlton, they definatly aren't in another class they just got kissed on the d*** by the umpires.
Hahaha you🤡