GERMAN PROTOTYPE TANKS ARE NUTS - Turm III in War Thunder

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
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    The Turm III is literally one of my favourite tanks in War Thunder. I had finished making the video for this tank in 5 matches and then just couldn't stop playing it.
    The Turm III is a Rank 5 Premium Tank for the German Tech Tree. It has the same L7 Cannon as the Leopard but also a 30mm autocannon strapped to the turret for good measure!
    The 30mm cannon has a max penetration of 53mm and plenty of ammo to boot. That means Light Tanks and SPAA's are food for this thing so long as they aren't paying attention.
    The main feature though, is this things L7A3 autloading 105mm cannon that has some of the best gun handling in the game. With a max gun depression of 12 degrees this thing can fight on defilade like no other.
    It's absolutely awesome!
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    INTRO (00:00)
    TURMENTOR (01:30)
    GAME 1 - MY FIRST GAME IN THE TURM (03:35)
    GAME 2 - GOT THAT NUKE (11:07)
    GAME 3 - FULDA GAP ROLEPLAY (18:52)
    OUTRO (23:41)
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Komentáře • 269

  • @OddBawZ
    @OddBawZ  Před 2 lety +41

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    • @sovietgoose4573
      @sovietgoose4573 Před 2 lety

      I DID, IT DOES INDEED LOOK VERY GOOD

    • @chris.76256
      @chris.76256 Před 2 lety +1

      Im broke

    • @asiftalpur3758
      @asiftalpur3758 Před 2 lety

      Didn't you discountine this link out of some problems with the game? The problems are gone now?

    • @nazionaliscoppio
      @nazionaliscoppio Před 2 lety

      I want to buy the scottish flag! I already have that gourgeous decal :D

    • @themerc123
      @themerc123 Před 2 lety

      i have and replace every nations insignia with it.

  • @dutchvanderlinde778
    @dutchvanderlinde778 Před 2 lety +642

    Funny how when youtubers play war thunder the enemies most of the time have the IQ of a toddler and when I play it the enemies have an IQ of Steven hawking

  • @g.williams2047
    @g.williams2047 Před 2 lety +97

    Hey odd just wanted to say that you’ve helped me get better at this game by practicing not fully stopping before getting gun on target, especially for stable platforms like the panther F. Has certainly gotten me dozens of kills since I learned not to stop!

    • @Northwood420
      @Northwood420 Před 2 lety

      But it's much harder to do with the Soviet, most of their tank don't have a stabilizer but once you learn how to adjust the gun using the tank brake without stopping completely, you would be unstoppable especially with that armour

  • @agislycoudis4139
    @agislycoudis4139 Před 2 lety +146

    Finally someone with 2 braincells to understand that the sabot is better and more reliable to use than the heat. Thank you!

    • @liamboyle9199
      @liamboyle9199 Před 2 lety +3

      Olifant mk1a stock grind made this very apparent 😂
      Was quite frustrating...

    • @smippycis6285
      @smippycis6285 Před 2 lety

      Anyone who has stock grinded US against russian ERA should know that too XD

    • @geuros
      @geuros Před 2 lety +7

      After some playing with Leo1 I realized that as well. Have to admit though there are trade offs - long range sniping is way easier to dial down with sabot but it loses a lot of pen.

    • @angelofpain3890
      @angelofpain3890 Před rokem +2

      Heat=easy sabot= effective

    • @leogunt
      @leogunt Před rokem +3

      The shell shatter mechanic just makes me wanna kms I still use apds rather than heat I only use heat when I see russian heavy tanks

  • @Talendale
    @Talendale Před 2 lety +10

    I look at the Turm III as a gun platform disguised as a tank. It gives up protection for being able to put hellish amounts of firepower downrange and has respectable speed to find positions to do it. The 30mm is so much utility- it chops up aircraft or helis, riddles lighter vehicles, disables tracks/guns on heavier ones if you need to buy time.

  • @Maximilian7992
    @Maximilian7992 Před 2 lety +9

    The Turm III or Erprobungsträger mit 3-achs-stabilisiertem Turm as it’s official name, is a actually heavily modified Leopard 1

  • @SCP--ku9ux
    @SCP--ku9ux Před 2 lety +22

    Thank you so much for uploading reguarly! This tank is an honest beast :)

  • @g3arjammer837
    @g3arjammer837 Před 2 lety +15

    Glad to see you got around to it as I requested, will definitely be watching this after I get my homework for college done. Until that time comes, have a good day Odd. I look forward to seeing what you were able to do with it.

  • @stevenholsinger4899
    @stevenholsinger4899 Před 2 lety +17

    It's official, odd literally has more GE than most of the player base has Silver lions.

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  Před 2 lety +10

      Uhhhhh, I think you need to double check! lol

    • @stevenholsinger4899
      @stevenholsinger4899 Před 2 lety +5

      Oh shoot, you're right. 100,000 GE is still nothing to laugh at though. 🤦

    • @CruisePlanee
      @CruisePlanee Před 2 lety

      that may be true for me lmao

  • @nopoint30
    @nopoint30 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing gameplay as always! Was really looking forward to you reviewing this tonk

  • @ghosti2610
    @ghosti2610 Před 2 lety +9

    So as a turm 3 player myself i can just say either you destriy the entire enemy team or you get 1 maybe 2 kills abd then get destroyed

  • @123Spanishfly
    @123Spanishfly Před 2 lety +4

    We want to see Cas! Show us that doggo and what a good boi he is! 🐕🐕

  • @TomoKIN_
    @TomoKIN_ Před 2 lety +4

    Cant wait to see if this thing goes on sale this may, watching you play only affirmed the part of me wanting this tank!

  • @razorphobejr2326
    @razorphobejr2326 Před 2 lety +3

    Glad you are having fun again, don't be shy about showing other games. You Phly and Benny on Snowrunner when your trailer flung you across the map still makes me die laughing.

  • @General_Griffin
    @General_Griffin Před 2 lety +10

    You forgot to mention that Gaijin is very likely to raise this tank to one BR higher once enough people have purchased it, as they do with nearly all premium and reward tanks.

    • @luke1119411
      @luke1119411 Před 2 lety +7

      I don't think they really could raise the BR. Not without thermals, laser rangefinder, etc. It already gets very difficult when up tiered to 9.0 against Merkavas

    • @General_Griffin
      @General_Griffin Před 2 lety +1

      @@luke1119411 They can and probably will... Gaijin doesn't take balancing seriously and literally only look to their precious (but often misleading) sTaTiStiCs god for answers.

    • @DecidedlyNinja
      @DecidedlyNinja Před 2 lety

      @@luke1119411 They really do need to though. The Turm is like a Leo A1A1, but better and 0.7 BR lower.

    • @luke1119411
      @luke1119411 Před 2 lety +5

      @@DecidedlyNinja I disagree. The Leopard gets NVDs, rangefinder, smoke, and DM23. The only advantage that the Turm really has is the 30mm. Not sure how that alone makes it better.

    • @DecidedlyNinja
      @DecidedlyNinja Před 2 lety +2

      @@luke1119411 The 30mm, awesome gun depression, and really fast reload.
      Good points though. Looking over the Turm's stats again I realize I had some misapprehensions about it. I still think it's at least equivalent to the Leo though.

  • @canned__meat
    @canned__meat Před 2 lety +2

    I looked at this thing last night actually.
    Seems like a hell of a lot of fun ☺️
    Awesome video Odd! Great to hear you having genuine fun ☺️

  • @BaronBoar
    @BaronBoar Před 2 lety

    Man it took you and Phly to make a video on this. I was stoked when I saw it and preordered it. I knew it was going to be good and I was not disappointed.

  • @jgdowell
    @jgdowell Před 2 lety +2

    The temptation is strong, but I'm still having too much fun with the A10.
    Good to see you back in action, brother.

  • @merwar6080
    @merwar6080 Před 5 měsíci

    Definitely by far my favourite tank to play I’ve had it for a year now and just love it

  • @declanmcgillicuddy6404
    @declanmcgillicuddy6404 Před 2 lety +2

    I bought the Turm for myself and my best friend and on the first session of playing together we got into a full uptier and I got a nuke and delivered it. I brought the alouette so it was a 9.3 uptier.

  • @hollandmajors6141
    @hollandmajors6141 Před 2 lety +2

    Happy belated easter Odd!

  • @JessWLStuart
    @JessWLStuart Před 2 lety +1

    "Is that an enemy jet? .... it WAS an enemy jet!" - OddBawZ, 2022

  • @screamingcactus1753
    @screamingcactus1753 Před 2 lety

    The whole turret being a giant ball joint is really funky, but I kinda like it. Whenever I see the whole thing tilt up, my brain has to do a bit of a double take.

  • @martinhajek5895
    @martinhajek5895 Před 2 lety +2

    I still dont understand, why dont we have some maps/mods, where one side would have to defend and the other attack, something like rush in battlefield. Would solve this issue with spawn camping, atleast for defenders.

  • @ogscarl3t375
    @ogscarl3t375 Před 2 lety +12

    All I have to say is that Irish Tank Man ( The Chieftain ) would argue from a logical and reality standpoint having a 30mm or 20mm coaxial cannon/machinegun compromises the rest of the tank in terms of ammo capacity storage space for said ammunition and makes the tank larger then it would otherwise need to be in terms of turret size. If you want a real life example of such things look at the AMX 30 and it's variants over it's lifetime of service went from a 7.62mm coaxial to a 12.7mm then to a 20mm coaxial and back down to 50 cal after the 20mm gun had the exact problems I listed off above yes it's cool but practical realities determined it to be a lethal but impractical weapon to mount as a secondary in a tank turret.

  • @lordchungas8882
    @lordchungas8882 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this amazing video odd! Thanks to your advice and opinion I think I’m gonna snag this tank myself!

  • @SilentButDudley
    @SilentButDudley Před 2 lety +5

    So in retrospect, this crafting event was likely the worst one they have made so far. Truly sad they don’t take any criticisms of it and improve, and instead just make it less rewarding for the same insane amount of grind.

  • @hawkeye6292
    @hawkeye6292 Před 2 lety +2

    I strongly believe that gun handling is the key thing that makes or breaks a tank, mobility I can deal with my First Nation was Britain, gun handling though is so important for shooting on the move in particular

  • @michaeld.uchiha9084
    @michaeld.uchiha9084 Před 2 lety

    In the german tank museum in Munster. There is a Marder 2 prototype and its gun can change from 20mm to a 30mm and back.
    Realy crazy that thing.

  • @OtterMusician
    @OtterMusician Před 2 lety +1

    I don't have that experience with the T-72 you mentioned at the start, but it's more likely that I just haven't noticed it. I don't have top-tier in any nation other than USSR, so I don't have anything to compare it against.

  • @chris.76256
    @chris.76256 Před 2 lety +4

    Germany be like: ja ja gun go boom

  • @smolwavingsnail9028
    @smolwavingsnail9028 Před 2 lety +1

    Odd: more tanks should have giant co ax's on them
    T72 moderna: i concur

  • @MrSqueasil
    @MrSqueasil Před 2 lety +2

    do the leo 2k. good auto cannon, and surprisingly survivable. plus no thermals. damn those things.

  • @manuelitonoveda4571
    @manuelitonoveda4571 Před 2 lety +1

    Imagine that chopper can still shoot rockets after pancaked on the ground

  • @safari99sm
    @safari99sm Před 2 lety +1

    Its like a year that i don't see a video with the M6A1!

  • @Brandon34098
    @Brandon34098 Před 2 lety +2

    instead of slowing down the time for win/lose it should pause the end of the match and the plane must no longer be flying or the bomb must go off although the result should be altered if you kept the game from ending on time like a pyrrhic victory if it goes off if you would have lost with more equal rewards or something and there needs to be a short time limit on the nuke bomber to keep it being used to draw out the game

  • @dedmajor
    @dedmajor Před 2 lety

    This is the best, most unique premium Gaijin have added in years, in my opinion

  • @dustyplayz
    @dustyplayz Před 2 lety +2

    Hey odd not sure if you’ll see this but could you try out the strv-74 in the Swedish tech tree? It’s got a good sabot as a modification and is surprisingly fun to play in the right circumstances

  • @jacorpg
    @jacorpg Před 2 lety

    Great games. I wish I reach this level some day.

  • @Juliett-A
    @Juliett-A Před rokem

    I'm trying to wrap my head around how the turret moves.

  • @thesandvitchman9303
    @thesandvitchman9303 Před 2 lety

    bro this things got the only thing i wanted out of the modurna a large caliber 30mm auto cannon id rather get this than spend the ridiculous amount of time to grind for the modurna

  • @TehCheezMan
    @TehCheezMan Před 2 lety

    Woah. That tank is insanely violent with the 30mm cannon, shame that Gaijin isn't able to give the gun 3-axis stabilization.

  • @almec5566
    @almec5566 Před 2 lety +1

    ive been using this tank the past 4 days and lets say im not gonna stop XD

  • @anthonymurray4840
    @anthonymurray4840 Před 2 lety

    Thanks again for another great video. As a fellow Scot, I gotta ask where you got the Saltire decal from as I so want it.

  • @user-wx1iv1fw3d
    @user-wx1iv1fw3d Před 2 lety +4

    這台好像法國的AMX-50,搖擺式砲塔、很平的前裝甲、基本方形的車身

  • @BluevesPL
    @BluevesPL Před 2 lety +2

    The fact that caernarvon and cent mk3 are fighting against it XDXD

  • @chriscornell5582
    @chriscornell5582 Před 2 lety +1

    Can’t imagine being the gunner that’s sitting next to a bomb.

    • @nextjaeger9271
      @nextjaeger9271 Před 2 lety +2

      I feel like no matter how hard you tried that ammostorage cant be made safe, even with blowout-panels. The entire tank would just disappear into a puff of smoke lol

  • @leflavius_nl5370
    @leflavius_nl5370 Před 2 lety

    One word: violent

  • @svenandbex
    @svenandbex Před 2 lety

    Good dammit! You've made me reload war thunder.
    Just when you think you're out. They pull you back in.

  • @jimmycrawfish1531
    @jimmycrawfish1531 Před 2 lety

    Grey matter XD elite burn bawz well done

  • @koflynn2159
    @koflynn2159 Před 2 lety

    Would be cool if the Turm was short for Turmfalke which means kestrel.

  • @skyboom1961
    @skyboom1961 Před 2 lety

    When a plane or Helicopter is destroyed it shouldn't be able to do anything, it's a pity the tanks when destroyed couldn't shoot for a couple of seconds after. But what a tank the Turm III is, thanks Oddball.

  • @wunderthunder
    @wunderthunder Před 2 lety +2

    tap tap tap.. 3 times with machine gun in direction of enemy is universal WT morse code for Enemy, Right , There!!!

  • @cinnamanstera6388
    @cinnamanstera6388 Před rokem

    Only premium I've ever bought. Love it.

  • @TomPrickVixen
    @TomPrickVixen Před 2 lety +1

    I think the only reason this to be 8.0 so it has a lineup, but still ends up on 8.3 or 9.0 anyway since the only other nation that strong on 8.0 is China, and the US.
    Also the full "glass cannon" thing just isn't works for me, despite i like my WMA301 witch somehow just works well, but any plane or helicopter is "happy so see me" in them (not to mention IFVs). So I'm eyeing with the TAM 2IP instead.

  • @Havok_Arms
    @Havok_Arms Před 10 měsíci

    If they could figure out how to do the 3rd plane of stabilization, this tank would be the absolute ultimate sniper tank as your crosshair would always be level, no matter the grade upon which you sat. Especially with that 12° of depression, hull down sniping would be disgusting

  • @dmkbnin5129
    @dmkbnin5129 Před 2 lety

    Nice video

  • @noahsawesomevids422
    @noahsawesomevids422 Před 2 lety

    Glad m163 and m247 will be able to pen it as well maybe 50cal

  • @Dog-ry9yk
    @Dog-ry9yk Před rokem

    Everybody’s chill till the ratt comes to the battlefield

  • @venzzz1370
    @venzzz1370 Před 2 lety

    Damn, imagine if this thing wasn't premium, i would definitely grind for it

  • @TitaniusAnglesmith
    @TitaniusAnglesmith Před 2 lety

    If the turret actually worked I may consider buying

  • @bobgoat5994
    @bobgoat5994 Před 2 lety

    I shot one of these square on the hull cheek from ~100m with 100mm apds, got "non penetration" and then he shot me.

  • @noaroger6921
    @noaroger6921 Před 2 lety

    This tank is a beast

  • @philipdenormandie1138
    @philipdenormandie1138 Před 2 lety

    id buy this but I don't have the time to get the most out of the premium account right now, basically a leopard 1 2k

  • @CarryPotter007
    @CarryPotter007 Před 2 lety +4

    Odd what's your opinion on auto laser range finder? I am lacking ranging skills when I go back to anything other than lobbing HE/HEAT (Sturmpanzer2 is best tank) or AFPSDS without LR... I was kinda sad that war thunder made me use that feature in order to be on par with other players, that actually brought my overall skill down, and it doesn't even work 30% of the time

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  Před 2 lety +5

      If you want to learn to be great at the game. Get the US M41A1 and build a 6.0 lineup. Play it religiously and if you can get good with the Bulldog at 6.0 you can literally handle anything. It will force you to aim for weak spots with a gun that doesn't do great damage.
      If that's too hardcore, use the M5A1 and US 2.7 lineup.

    • @the-macjagger
      @the-macjagger Před 2 lety +2

      Tricks to ranging...
      1. Range with binos before you crest hill... you will have range by the time you push into firing pos.
      2. Look at the map grids and cap ranges you can get a good estimate especially when father than your rage capability.
      3. If your first shot is short remember what range mark line the shell landed on then place that mark a tiny bit above the target... guaranteed scene shot hit.
      @OddBawz I find US 6.3 is the new meta.

    • @CarryPotter007
      @CarryPotter007 Před 2 lety

      @@OddBawZ oooh I am literally 2 matches away from unlocking it, I'll give it my best :D

  • @stansearcheslife6363
    @stansearcheslife6363 Před rokem

    This thing should be uptiered

  • @lucakoop1615
    @lucakoop1615 Před 2 lety

    Please forgive me
    but
    the TURMinator!

  • @shawnpenney8346
    @shawnpenney8346 Před 2 lety

    You should use the guided bombs on the a4e

  • @Fredericodolphino93
    @Fredericodolphino93 Před 2 lety

    I wish it wasn’t not fully completed the stabilization is supposed to be a 3 plane stabilizer and it’s not. You are supposed to be able to go pretty much sideway on your track and the turret doesn’t move.

  • @alan-sk7ky
    @alan-sk7ky Před 2 lety

    Big coax? can we have mk1 cent with the 20mm polsten cannon...

  • @Mitron43
    @Mitron43 Před 2 lety

    Easy 8.3-8.7 vehicle with the way it handles + pen + auto loader

  • @83RBurke
    @83RBurke Před 2 lety

    The top mg looks like a baby marder turret

  • @rikudora1215
    @rikudora1215 Před 2 lety

    Turm III is not an actual name of this damned vehicle, and there is no 3-axis stabilizer
    perfectly gaijined

  • @catto7274
    @catto7274 Před 2 lety

    Wow the Germans must have stolen my 3rd grade notebook, I remember drawing this exact creature..

  • @csgaming8101
    @csgaming8101 Před 2 lety

    Still waiting for the ARL 44 video! Hope you will make it!

  • @erikmann3640
    @erikmann3640 Před 2 lety

    Heya OddBawz! How did you get that great Flag you have on the back of your tank? I haven't seen that one available in the world flags available in game. :(

  • @noahsawesomevids422
    @noahsawesomevids422 Před 2 lety

    If I find that tank imma just aim for the ammo

  • @thesolstice_8122
    @thesolstice_8122 Před 2 lety

    I'm early! Hope your feelin alright Odd!

  • @chrisc2920
    @chrisc2920 Před 2 lety

    Would you recommend the tank to buy? I have 9.0 Germany but I like the look/gameplay

  • @RecklessTurtle
    @RecklessTurtle Před 2 lety

    The coaxial 30mm should have APFSDS ammo. Missed opportunity. If I'm paying premium, I expect premium treatment and pure "pay to win"...

  • @ExcavationNation
    @ExcavationNation Před 2 lety +1

    I don't understand how your brain fits into any of these tanks.

    • @ExcavationNation
      @ExcavationNation Před 2 lety

      And about that trailer anyway you could show my trailer from the video I sent to on Patreon? From my other channel I know the people would love it. It would help so much odd. I hope your doing ok with the loss of your grandma. My grandma raised me so I get how hard it will be. Love you man.

  • @fishmansf4573
    @fishmansf4573 Před 2 lety

    Can you please make a video on the M3 GMC? Attempt 152

  • @user-qz8jy7wx1u
    @user-qz8jy7wx1u Před 2 lety

    Sadly the 3-axis stabilizer only works on 2 axis 😂

  • @hotspot_bombdrop9531
    @hotspot_bombdrop9531 Před rokem

    1:25 hmmm. I think the clip ended due to the missile flying at the screen. nah must be friendly artillery that’s why he died. 🤦🏻

  • @nixoproto7545
    @nixoproto7545 Před 2 lety

    The turret doesn't actually stabilize for one of the axis

    • @nixoproto7545
      @nixoproto7545 Před 2 lety

      Basically it doesn't stabilize for body roll

  • @rnolan6614
    @rnolan6614 Před 2 lety

    Yeah I should have bought the Turm instead of the A10. Just unlock the A10 late

  • @TedBackus
    @TedBackus Před rokem

    i wish bohemia interactive had released a competent successor to arma 2 for current times. with a headless client you could run huge multi player armor battles where it didnt cost $2500 a year. gamers dont know what they have lost

  • @TheDgamesD
    @TheDgamesD Před 2 lety

    Still won’t buy it until they give it its proper full plane stabilization.

  • @turtl3playz303
    @turtl3playz303 Před rokem

    Would this hold out at 9.0

  • @Anteritus
    @Anteritus Před 2 lety +2

    Hello there, only took me 5 secs to like the video

  • @primal_guy1526
    @primal_guy1526 Před 2 lety

    A paper tiger with real teeth

  • @deejayimm
    @deejayimm Před rokem

    Everyone knows if you get a nuke you should spawn at about 60,000 ft over the battlefield.
    The reason why War Thunder doesn't do it that way is because, almost fun.

  • @random-nb8jl
    @random-nb8jl Před 2 lety

    i agree its so fun in my opinion its the second most fun tank in the game the most fun would have to be the brummbar because of course it is but thank you so much cause now i have a video to refer all the turm III haters too

  • @PIF150O
    @PIF150O Před 2 lety

    Phlydaily thumbnail huh

  • @WarDaddy_2503
    @WarDaddy_2503 Před 2 lety

    Love your videos Odd! But where did you get the Scotland flag decal??? Living in Glasgow that's something I'd love to put on my tanks too!

  • @TrinanKocht
    @TrinanKocht Před 2 lety

    thus turret xD

  • @hahahehe9946
    @hahahehe9946 Před 2 lety +1

    Dear OddBawZ, I'm suffering from war thunder. In every games, I have been shot from everywhere that I can't even see. My longest life span is 4m. I tried to delete this game and ended up with reinstall the game. I'm addicted to this game and lose streaks making me suffer. If u see this comment, pls make tactics and guides for beginners like me.

  • @detoxedegg
    @detoxedegg Před 2 lety +1

    Does anyone know how he looks around without his turret moving? thanks if u know

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  Před 2 lety +2

      Hold the C key! :)

    • @detoxedegg
      @detoxedegg Před 2 lety +1

      @@OddBawZ Thank you! countless times where that would have saved my life, and countless more where it will!

  • @jozopako
    @jozopako Před rokem +1

    Funny, back in a 2017 i always said this game is not pay to win bcs premium tanks are not that good. Guess i cannot say it now.

  • @genericscottishchannel1603

    The autocannon could've done with it's APDS belt

    • @crazyadam9281
      @crazyadam9281 Před 2 lety

      No just no, it's fine as it is.

    • @genericscottishchannel1603
      @genericscottishchannel1603 Před 2 lety

      @@crazyadam9281 incorrect

    • @crazyadam9281
      @crazyadam9281 Před 2 lety

      @@genericscottishchannel1603 No I'm correct this thing doesn't need the 110mm penetration apds belts, apds would make this more OP then the Falcon.

    • @genericscottishchannel1603
      @genericscottishchannel1603 Před 2 lety

      @@crazyadam9281 it has 12 fucking degrees of elevation

    • @dbeerewout
      @dbeerewout Před 2 lety

      @@genericscottishchannel1603 if it had the APDS belt on the 30 its defi go to 9.0 or higher, maybe even 9.3 or 9.7