What If Showbiz Pizza Place Owned the Rock-afire Explosion?
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2023
- Today, I answer the question of What if Showbiz Pizza Place Owned the Rock-afire Explosion? Watch the video to find out what my answer to the question is. Thanks to @Wayfinder_Triko, @alancoleson5576, and nightmaresmouse2635 for requesting this video.
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Disclaimer: Neither Showbiz Pizza Place nor Chuck E. Cheese belongs to me, I simply discuss them. This is also a fictitious answer, meaning that unless I say it was in real life, it did not actually happen.
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Hey itzarob can you make a video of what if showbiz came first
@@karlgt3656 Not sure about that, Showbiz Pizza Place wouldn't have existed without Chuck E. Cheese so that wouldn't really be possible.
@@ItzaRob oh do you have a huntsville and augusta on your list
@@karlgt3656 No, I don't, but I'm not taking history video requests right now so they won't be added to the list for now.
@@ItzaRob bruh you have dumb requesters
I always felt that Showbiz would’ve still screwed over Aaron and eventually ditched the rockafire maybein the mid to late nineties in favor of their own characters
Glad to see a realistic approach to this subject because most of the time people think just because showbiz ( heck maybe even avenger Chuck ) stayed the company wouldn’t do what they’re doing now . Great video !
Thank you, and that's very true. I think people need to remember this is the same company that was once Showbiz Pizza Place, just under a different name, so for sure there would be a similar outcome.
I also see the company making more cartoony and less detailed latex masks for the characters and masks for the walkarounds in the 90s as the old ones could scare kids due to how realistic they look, this is the same as why in real life they resculpted the 3 stage latex mask and walkaround for Chuck to get rid of his old pointed snout, tiny eyes, and bulbous cheeks design associated with his old Scott Wilson voice in favor of the Mickey looking design associated with his Duncan Brannan voice
That's something I didn't think about. I was so focused on the other changes that something like that didn't occur to me. Yeah, you're very well right, they could have definitely done that.
Nice video I actually want to live in a world where both exist at the same time both Chuck-E-Cheese and showbiz
That’s actually a good video idea lol
@@protocat-w-3197 do you have an idea I will share the video idea in October the same thing but there's one big difference
Technically that did happen in the 80s
This actually happened in the 80s and I remember Chuck E. Cheese being right accross the street from Showbiz here in Columbus Ohio and Showbiz actually won that battle until it became CEC itself
@@SlushysSecret Very true, from 1985 to 1990. However, you could only see Billy Bob at any Chuck E. Cheese's if both CEC and ShowBiz had locations in the same state, same city.
Let's be real here, we all came for the "Mitzi Cyberamic" on the thumbnail
I'm afraid to ask you to elaborate lol (seriously, DON'T).
They would definitely start 2.0 earlier. Theres way more rockafire characters and with them not having ties with creative engineering would be harder to fix and make new shows for.
Oh, new 3 stage's wouldn't have been made after that point, they would've just stuck with what they had. The only new stages that would have been made at this point were the Billy Bob 1 Stage, and any locations opened between 1989 and 1996 would have had recycled shows from closed locations.
@@ItzaRobanother thing: CEC got other companies (ex: Kinetix, Animation World) to build cyberamics from 1987-1997 because Fantasy Forest Manufacturing (the company that made the Cyberamics 1979-1984) closed. Therefore, Showbiz in this timeline likely would have gotten other companies (like Kinetix and Animation world) to build RAE animatronics. I’m not sure if they would be based of Cyberamics or CEI characters.
@@spunchbop47428 Cyberamics would have stopped production after 1988 since they weren't going to focus on those animatronics anymore. The only animatronics that would have been made after that point would have been the Billy Bob 1 Stage.
@@ItzaRob
They probably would’ve gotten the CEC treatment though, Billy Bob 1 stage, tv screens on the side with Cartoon versions of the Rock a fire or Live action Rock a fire segments with Billy Bob or rock a fire mascots on The Tv.
I'm on TV 0:02 0:18
Studio C Billy Bob is cursed.
No I think rock afire explosion cyberamic stage look cursed💀☠️
Very interesting timeline that I never thought about!
10:07 Wooo moonrockers! awesome videos man
Thanks.
I could see them retiring Fatz because of his obese size and his image(don’t ask of you don’t know what I mean) and making Billy Bob slimmer like they did with Chuck in 2012. I could definitely see them retiring Rolfe and Earl because the ventriloquist act itself is dated. I’m still surprised that Pasqually has lasted this long
I know what you mean about Fatz.
I dispute the idea that Rolfe and Earl are a dated concept; we do still see ventriloquist acts on TV talent shows and the like, several by young people even. If anything, I almost wanna say they were ahead of the curve, for using a cute puppet instead of a creepy-looking wooden dummy.
I think as long as Mario is popular, Pasqually hasn't got much to worry about.
I always thought admin wanted to replace Pasqually with Bella in all existing media but couldn't due to the demand for keeping our precious show stages. It's a theory, anyway
Same. And about Rolfe and Earl.
While the Rolfe and Earl show is proceeding, I could see them Going for a mention Of Chuck E rather than Mitzy in this.
Nice video but I doubt they would change their outfits. Since concept unification CEC has not changed Helen, Jasper, Munch, or Pasquale outfits. The only outfit they change is Chuck E. So if Aaron had ever sold rock afire I bet all the characters besides billy bob would stay the same. Maybe a few small changes with a hat or something here and there but otherwise just the same.
Yes but that's talking about CEC CU which changed the characters once and then never again aside from Chuck. The thing is, those characters changed clothes when CU happened and it affected all of the stages and had the characters wearing different clothes than they were originally. In this timeline, the RAE 3 Stage would have never changed for 40 years and so of course it would undergo clothing changes at least once like it did with cyberamics (they may have been different, newer cyberamics but still were the same nonetheless).
Love your videos!
Thank you.
3:26, except rather then a mention of Mitzy like heard in one of the show tapes as an excuse for why the RockAfire wasn’t available, it would be a mention of the Pizza Time Players while not saying any name of any character. Just mentions of it as an excuse for their absence.
I personally don’t think showbiz would ever get rid of their animatronics,
Then remember the current CEC Entertainment is actually the same company who was once Showbiz Pizza Place.
Chuck E with lipstick is killing me
I'd say by 1998 they would retire Rolfe and Earl which means converting 3 stages into two. By 2018 bella b bunny would be the newest member of the Rock Afire Explosion eventually climbing up to Rolfe's former spot
Who's saying Bella B would have ever existed though? I understand she didn't exist before in CEC and so you could technically add her here but it really isn't a surefire thing when the band that would've made it to modern day was quite different. I do think Rolfe & Earl would have been slowly phase out, maybe not that soon but eventually yes that could've happened.
I could see them retiring Fatz because of his size and his image(don’t ask of you don’t know what I mean) and making Billy Bob slimmer like they did with Chuck in 2012
2:25, Would the Voice Actors still be the same though like The Same ones from all the other show tapes? Or Would the Characters get replacements voice actors?
They'd likely be replaced as they would still be with Creative Engineering.
What if Crusty the cat and Mr Munch co-existed?
I could see Crusty being a second guitarist in MMBB, potentially taking Billy Bob's animatronic. Maybe he could've even been the Fatz-like frontman and MMBB could have a different name.
@@trevortuominen8233 Even into the 90s, Crusty has to stand as far from Chuck E. as possible, this cat cannot catch a break.
Cool Chuck is no more it’s cool billy now
I guess you're right lol.
Did someone design the animatronics seen in 2:25 to give people an idea of what the Rockafire Explosion characters would look like as Chuck E. Cheese retrofits?
Yes, I created the designs.
cyberamic mitzi is cursed but good video!!
Awesome video!!!
Thanks.
Why is Rolfe being treated so dirty everyone hates him and putting him on a tv screen 😭 am I the only one who actually likes Rolfe and earl animatronic
I don't hate him, but he was definitely always treated like a side character, so I was trying to be realistic with my approach here and assumed Showbiz Pizza Place would not have tried to incorporate Rolfe & Earl since the only other characters they could've converted were the Cabaret acts which would've been a whole other thing to have to move to the main showroom and also reskin (plus adding on Earl somehow).
@@ItzaRob it’s good it’s that he’s one of my favorite characters and I know how your saying that he wouldn’t fit in with the other animatronics like how would you add earl to one of the cabaret animatronics but it’s fine
I agree with you!!
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You should do a what if about what if crusty never got retired?
Hm, that feels like a sort of small idea, though it would be interesting for sure.
maybe aaron could've retrofitted the spare rock afires into hard luck bear or wolf pack 5 shows (maybe hybrids)
What I’ll think what happens, creative engineering and Aaron factor work on his eco-friendly car he’ll never work on hydraemia and become a car manufacturing company
Now do a “What if Showbiz bought CEC and both CEC and Showbiz stayed (up to this day)”, it’d be cool!
Original: ‘Now do a “What if Showbiz bought CEC merged but Showbiz stayed”, it’d be cool!’
That is literally what this video is. Showbiz Pizza Place had no identity without the Rock-afire Explosion.
@@ItzaRob I meant “if both Showbiz and CEC stayed way up to today” lol, sorry for the typo
@@robozaogameryt I really don't see this being a thing since that would have been a large cast of characters to have to market and manage. I try to take more realistic approaches to these videos and I don't see how that would realistically work.
I would like to think that they would reskin the king into uncle klunk and fix his guotar movements to chuck/helens arm movement
Does Billy Bob actually play a bass guitar? I always wondered about that because beach Bear played the electric guitar and it would make sense that Billy Bob would be the bass guitar player.
Well, it's certainly not a banjo judging by how it sounds in the showtapes, and I've heard that term being thrown around so it makes sense.
@ItzaRob Bass guitars also have only 4 strings and as you see Billy bobs guitar has 4 strings. Beach bears guitar has 6 I believe which is how many strings are on a standard guitar.
What if Nolan Bush really did get his hand on an actual coyote costume suit from IAAPA, or at the very least realized it was a rat costume just before he bought it?
it would be pretty crazy if cabaret charaters stayed like artie antlers and family album
I'd be worried that the brand would become the safe, boring marketable crap CEC is now.
The end of the video pretty much shows what I think it would've turned into, and it's pretty much what you described. This IS the same company, after all, just under a different name since they went with the RAE instead of CEC.
Get over it.
Ez.
@@MiesterDX595 Who are you talking to here? I was trying to inform the person, not bash them. I'll reword the comment though so it doesn't come off like that.
@ItzaRob yeah. I saw, and I'm lowkey glad Showbiz didn't suffer this fate. I'm upset CEC did, but neither of them should.
What if they retrofitted the king animatronic to Rolf
I thought about it but ultimately, knowing the company, they would not have bothered doing that seeing as Rolfe & Earl weren't incorporated in a ton of the performances to begin with.
@@ItzaRob true
@@ItzaRobshowbiz never had any respect for rolfe and earl l mean
1.he never got a walk around
2.he got replaced a lot
3.he wasn't in that many showtapes
@@capybara455 Yeah, that's true. He really was the true side character to the show unless it was his own shows.
@@ItzaRob it sucks considering he's one of the best characters
Where would Billy Bob’s Wonderland fit in all of this? Would it be like that hypothetical one-time Pizza Time Theater location in San Jose?
I didn’t really think about that here. I assume they would have stuck with the company seeing as they wouldn’t have changed the Rock-afire characters.
Are you still not taking history video requests as of now?
I am, but it doesn’t mean I will choose it since I now choose whether or not to accept a request based off how interesting or unique the location/area requested is.
Dang I don't know what to-to say!
What if Chuck E. Cheese can still make guest star animatronics
You should do a video where in February of the rights to Chuck E. Cheese
I don't understand the idea.
You should cover chico ca
I billy Bob
Also first 😮
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I feel that the king would be shortened and turned into billy bob then hellen into rolfe and one of the other warblers into earl
If Nintendo Owned Chuck E. Cheese’s then Chuck E. Will became Mario Jasper Who will became Luigi Helen who became Princess Peach Mr. Much who became Boswer Pasquale who became The toad the Pizza cam Who became the Goomba
You're beginning to sound like something straight out of a fan's wishful AU or something. No thanks.
Maybe they would use some of the Chucky character
Nice video but i think you forgot about the new rock-afire lol
It wouldn't have existed if the rights to the Rock-afire Explosion were taken from Creative Engineering. They may have tried to work with the company that created Mijins to create their own bots but this video didn't try to focus on that aspect.
@@ItzaRob oh alright makes sense
Next next video: what if chuck e cheese was 13+? Maybe?
Uh, probably not. You kind of saw what that looked like in the 70's and 80's.
@@ItzaRob I meant they weren't a kids restaurant AT ALL all the way to the modern day!?
@@Ninajo78 I don't really know how I would do that, or how it would go, especially since there's not a true modern equivalent to what you're saying.
What if bob brock didn't betray nolan bushnell
Hm, that's a decently interesting idea. I'll have to see about it.
I want to try to make this a reality
Pls do the hostory of chuck e cheese in Albuquerque Newmexico
This has already been requested, so I'll just credit you as well when I get around to it.
I wish that nolen Bushnell would pit me in more than 1 location
What about billy bobs wonderland what would the equivalent of that be in this timeline
I didn't focus on any one location in this video, since it would take too long.
It would probably be similar to what happened in the first What-If video.
I seen this on the murder video, and I started to go in, but I didn’t comment it
Um, what murder video? What are you talking about?
I seen people commented and I was going to comment it
@@Smradford I still don't really understand, but it's fine.
showbiz pizza place is where the rock-a-fires were
I'm aware. Did I say something in the video that contradicts that?
This might of not happened bc there is the 2nd gen of Mitzi and dook and they might all get a 2nd gen
2nd gen was put on hold a bit before the merger because money was tight, and after the merger tensions started to rise with creative engineering and corporate Showbiz.
Does this mean the people who prefer the rockafire would prefer chuck e cheese? 🤨
My opinion but I feel like they would not reuse the cybers over the rockafire explosion
What if showbiz pizza place owned cec?
They do own CEC, they bought them back in 1984 and merged with them and decided to use the characters instead of the Rock-afire Explosion and rebrand from Showbiz Pizza Place to Chuck E. Cheese.
Wait I thought Showbox and Rock-afire explosion was the same thing, only me?
Showbiz was the actual restaurant, the Rock-store explosion was a show created by Creative Engineering and was exclusively licensed out to Showbiz Pizza for several years before tension started to rise and the agreement changed so other restaurants could have the show, and then ofc they eventually retrofitted their characters into Chuck E. Cheese characters.
Ah yes, my favorite pizza place: Showbox Pizza with the Rock-store Explosion
What so if Aaron gave up Rock A Fire Showbiz Would've Been still been around
That's what I said in the what if video, yes. You can watch it again if you aren't sure about what I said lol.
does this mean Showbiz Pizza Place Huntington Beach California?
No, the thumbnail image isn't even from Huntington Beach, California, it's from Dallas, Texas.
@@ItzaRobI know. I meant that does this mean the current Huntington Beach store would be showbiz?
@@spunchbop47428 I don't know, I didn't pay attention to individual locations. If it was a Chuck E. Cheese it would've been turned into a Showbiz, but if it already was one it would've stayed as one.
What if Rockafire explosion characters continue to exist at Chuck E Cheese
The two brands wouldn't coexist, the cast of characters would be too large to do something like that with and be able to market both properly.
@@ItzaRob They would have to serparate into a kid's section for CEC and adult section for Rockafire.
@@hayleywaalen2612 I really don't think that's how they'd do that, so I'd rather not do that. Any of these ideas where the characters coexist with each other are usually unrealistic in every way and would just simply not work.
@@ItzaRob Oh okay.
@@ItzaRobWHAT DO YOU MEAN ABOUT THAT
You should do if mr munch and crusty the cat co existsted i agree with damianhendriks6162
I thought they already owned these
Bro i'm confused
Did Chuck E. Cheese buy them or what
Showbiz Pizza Place bought Chuck E. Cheese in 1984 when they merged. Showbiz Pizza Place phased out Showbiz Pizza Place in favor of the Chuck E. Cheese characters because they couldn't secure the rights to the Rock-afire Explosion. Aaron Fechter and Creative Engineering owns the rights to the characters, and without owning them, they couldn't keep using them if the two split up (Creative Engineering made the bots and the showtapes, Showbiz Pizza Place allowed the band to perform in their restaurants and use their characters but conflict arose and they split up).
am i late?
You caught the majority of it. What's your "What If" Request you mentioned?
@@ItzaRobwhat if chuck e cheese still appealed to older audience and didn’t get his 2012 remodel? and also if they never thought of 2.0 and actually still took care of the animatronics
@@TheMightyManhog1010 Maybe. I'd have to think about how that would work though and what they would do.
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