What If Harry Never Called The Knight Bus? | Harry Potter Film Theory
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What If Harry Potter Never called the Knight Bus and Sirius had been able to explain everything to him that night? Would Peter have been arrested? Would Voldemort still rise? Would Harry still learn the Patronus?
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I've got the ultimate seven-part theory idea: What if the troll killed Hermione? The series would be completely different without her.
No, I can't even imagine that. WOW
No it would come out that Ron and Harry bullied her. Even Dumbledore couldn't protect them from the consequences as he too would be under review. This would be the perfect excuse Lucius Malfoy needed as a school governor to oust him.
Ron and Harry would die immediately. Hermione is the only reason those idiots are alive…
That would be AMAZING. Dark, but amazing.
And the sixth and third book would be so much less annoying
By far the most impressive part of this channel is the ability to create Harry Potter content YEARS after its conclusion. It is the perpetual motion machine of content. They’ve found the golden goose for CZcamsrs.
Oh boy may I show you the "golden" goose that is dragon ball what ifs
@@aariachang24 true but at least dragon ball is still constantly releasing new content. Dragon ball super is still ongoing and the franchise still releases a movie every few years. HP is officially dead with no hope of the fantastic beast series continuing
They probably capitalized it better than JK herself on the thing xD Honestly, these guys should be in the next HP world's production.
They're not that special. People are still writing fanfics
and even more when the own author tries to destroy her own work
I like to imagine that Wizarding world is real and Harry, Hermione, and Ron binge watch these theories whenever they meet up
𝕋𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕨𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕓𝕖 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝕗𝕦𝕟𝕟𝕪 😅
Might be kind of a downer of an evening, but I could also see that being really fun.
(On the off-chance you're reading this, Hi Harry, Ron and Hermione!!)
The silver lining is that Harry and Sirius have a true friendship/ godfather-son relationship. The fact that Harry and Sirius spend so little time together was always the most heartbreaking part of Sirius's death; they mostly communicated by letters and fire talk (?) Harry says to Dumbledore, "It's just hard, knowing I'll never get another letter from him."
Yeah, it would have been nice for them to get through it all, then have the rest of their lives to explore their relationship, for Sirius to tell Harry more about his parents, and be a Grandpa to Harry and Ginny's kids. Still, every good story has some tragedy in it. Stories in which everything goes well don't feel legitimate, somehow, because every person's life has some tragedy in it? Often, it's the tragedies which help us learn and grow?
@@philsurteesrandom sudden loss is a reality that must be faced sometimes sadly. Its a good element to add to your story if you treat the death well.
😂 gg gtg tg t yg t t y gtg🎉🎉
Something I think would be interesting is what if Sirius took Harry the night his parents died instead of Hagrid
Harry would have had a better childhood if Sirius raised him. Also, Sirius might have learned the truth about his brother Regulus.
@@katholmes7112 But then he wouldn't have the blood protection from Petunia
@Sparkle Baddie I have a theory that the blood protection didn't exist but was a lie told by Dumbledore. And I believe I can prove it. I laid the whole theory and the evidence out on my Facebook page.
@@sparklebaddiethat was created by Dumbledore the night that Hagrid picked him up and they gave him to the Dursley’s. So that wouldn’t apply in that situation. Dumbledore might have done a different protection spell that made it so that Harry was safe if he lived with Sirius.
@@RandomAnimal it is also very doubtful it was in play at all after Harry went to Hogwarts considering it is implied he considered the castle his home and the charm only works if he considers the Dursley's his home
My question is, Did Harry ever consider the Dursley’s as home? From the way they treated him I’d say no, but I’m curious to what others think.
In the movies, no.
"I'm not going home, not really."
I know the magical protection on him only lasts while he considers it home, which is why they move him in DH, but he still lives there whether he likes it as a home or not.
I don't think you actually have to consider the place your home, you just have to live there. The house you live in is still your home whether you like it or not
In the literal sense yes, in the sentimental sense, no.
@@TyJay20 house and home are two very *VERY* Different words. A house is a shelter where you reside
Home is where you desire to be
@Aichi1138 Emotionally yes but in a technical sense its your home regardless, which I think is all the charm here requires
I can't imagine Sirius willingly going to live at Grimmauld Place. He hates the place. I'm sure he could afford to buy himself and Harry a nice place to live with his inheritance.
Maybe with Dumbledore not so busy planning everything behind their back he could've spared a couple minute to come and get rid of the painting of Walburga Black and maybe then, Sirus would be more inclined to live there again.
@@RGC_animation I always thought the whole portrait issue was ridiculous. If Walburga stuck her portrait to the wall in a way that prevents removing it from the wall, why not just remove the wall? I'm not sure what room was behind it, but worse case scenario I'm sure they could build some kind of acceptable barrier. They can do magic!
Anyway, it sounded like Sirius had a really bad childhood, seeing as he ran away and never came back. That whole place had to be full of bad memories of him, and those couldn't have anything to do with the portrait as it almost certainly hadn't existed back then. It sounds like only dead people have active portraits.
@@limiv5272 Yeah, also no matter how powerful of an enchantment she must've cast on it to make it irremovable, it doesn't seem likely that a house full of great wizards and aurors wouldn't be able to remove it. Like in the worst case scenario, just burn the painting.
@@RGC_animation so, Sirius spends Third Year remodelling his house- love this for him.
"There, the wall with my mother's painting is gone... hey, actually, this is kind of nice without the wall. Really opens up the room."
@@limiv5272"sorry guv, this is a party wall, innit, I mean, take the wall away and you'll be getting closer than you want to the neighbours. Don't mind me asking, but are they wizards or Muggles? Ah, they don't know this house exists? Tricky, tricky. Gonna cost yer, mate"
Can we have a theory where Sirius never dies? Either a continuation of this theory or simply just not dying fighting Bellatrix. His death was always the one I hated the most and I so wished that he had lived so that Harry had someone who cared for him.
*I could not agree more!* Sirius is my *#1 best character ever of any franchise period!* I love most of SCB's theories, but that they constantly stick so close to the canon plot and keep killing him off just bothers me to no end. And in this one, they could have just said that, because Sirius was no match, he was gravely injured. He didn't *need* to die.
Hes my fav human character but my favourite of all time is Dobby 🧦
Sirius was a pipe dream for Harry. Let's face it. Sirius was never father material. He still loathed Snape. He likely would have intervened in Dumbledores pact with Snape.
It was a shame that Sirius died, but Harry has *PLENTY* of people who care for him. I know what you mean though; being a friend of Harry's parents made Sirius different from everyone else. He was the person who could probably have best guided Harry the way his parents would have wanted, which is pretty much the purpose of godparents...
Imagine Sirius narrowly dodging Bellatrix’s curse in Order of the Phoenix and working together with Molly to take her down (after constant arguing in Grimmauld Place) at the Battle of Hogwarts.
You should do what if harry accepted lupins help in deathly hallows
Yeah that's a good one 👍
@@malininatarajan7948 thank you
Hello there
@@LegoObIWan np :)
@@Obiwan_Kenobi_The_First general kenobi, you are a bold one
When J delivers the dark, serious "Hey brother" instead of singing it, you know it's about to go **down**
I literally never realized what a lucky coincidence it was that Scabbers ended up as the Weasley family's pet, of all families. Like, imagine if they got to the big climactic confrontation at the end and it turned out Scabbers belonged to some fifth year Ravenclaw back up at the castle lol
Well, Peter Pettigrew was part of the Order of the Phoenix, as well as Arthur and Molly Weasley. So maybe he decided to become a part of a familiar wizarding family to keep an eye on the news about Sirius, Voldemort and others.
@@kseniavarna9131molly and arthur werent in the first ootf, but Molly's brothers were, so maybe from that
I'd like to imagine that when Pettigrew is revealed, Sirius just barges in in dog form, growling at Pettigrew. Pettigrew realizes who this is, and terrified for his life, try to pin blame back on Sirius. He's escorted out, Harry tells Sirius it's safe, and he transforms, making all the Ministry members flinch while Mrs. Weasley screams, all while Sirius justs looks cooly at the Ministry. Quickly enough everything is understood and Sirius is pardoned for the crime he didn't do. He then hugs Harry fiercely, and thanks him
"Ah James, you have never failed to save my tail! And you have saved me harry, truly and proper. i-*voice breaks* though I had lost you...oh I couldn't bear the shame of meeting your father on my deathbed, a greasy vagabond. Broke, broken, an' half mad. Honestly old James could stomach that. But if I left you? If I lost you to riddle? He'd cut the shine from me and he would speak no more."
You really don't have to have Sirius die in your what-if scenario. It doesn't make sense to assume that when things are different, they have to wind up the same. With Wormtail captured and Sirius proven innocent, the situation at the Ministry might be totally different. Fudge might be discredited and step down, or he might wise up and realize the threat of Voldy's return, and be ready to acknowledge it when it happens. As a result, Umbridge never comes to Hogwarts, the dementor attack on Little Winging never happens. Maybe Sirius is hired as the DADA teacher. Maybe he teaches ALL his students the patronus charm. Or maybe someone else competent becomes DADA teacher. Maybe Moody - the real one this time.
Yes, Sirius could still die, but it would be more likely that he'd die in the final battle at Hogwarts. But he has at least as good a chance of surviving as anyone else.
The issue with ur logic is that this is a story that has already been decided and running off with the characters and rules makes it no longer the same story. Thy cn do anything with the title Harry Potter but to stray away from wat J.K set up would make it no longer Harry Potter. Sirius Black dies, she wrote it. Harry himself names his children after the men who die during this time who greatly affected his life as a result. Harry could hav developed an obscurial (should have, if u exclude the logic of J.K). Which would hav caused him to pass away very young and Ole Voldy wins cuz of the prophecy. What if James had his wand on him wen Voldemort came to attack them? It makes no sense even in story that Sirius wasn't the secret ķeeper even after the reason given. She wrote it this way, therefore it is the right way and Sirius dies
@@kekenaniwilson6138 What are you talking about? It's not my story. It's not my video. It's not my what-if scenario. If you object to the very idea of what-if scenarios, then why bother watching this video?
YES! I like this perspective. Excellent alternate storyline. It's satisfying to imagine Sirius living to, and potentially through, the Battle of Hogwarts. I want him to live to see Harry become Master of Death and defeat Voldemort. Then they could live in peace as a family.
@@kekenaniwilson6138 Uhm...isn't the whole point of a what-if scenario to play with how a story we already know would change if something seemingly small changed in it? Like the entire point is to see what, if anything would change if one small thing (or sometimes one large thing) was different
they say the reason why at the end of the vide. every father figure of harry had to die so that harry could face voldemort himself
"Look at this cool dog I found!"
"WHY IS THE GRIM TRYING TO KILL MY RAT??"
What if Hermione was sorted into Ravenclaw? I think there's a chance that almost nothing super important changes, but maybe she's not in class with the Gryffindors for her to hear Ron call her a nightmare. That means she doesn't cry in the bathroom before the news about the troll gets out. So she never has a reason to befriend the boys. I can't really think beyond year 1, but that's what I got so far.
Good alternative to the other comment thread that others are calling unimaginable where she gets killed by the troll.
I really like this version of events. Nice one! PLEASE do What if Neville was the boy who lived next....I know it probably would be a 7 parter again and a lot of work, but I think it could be really awesome. I actually started on my own version of this scenario, but I´d just love to hear your take on it.
I'm pretty sure they meantioned it slightly at the end of one of them, and that would be neville wouldn't of lived, the only reason Harry lived was because Snape loved Lily and asked for her to be spared, AND that Voldormort complied and offered Lily a chance to survive.
@@whisperinwind87 i dont think that's right. the prophecy was created before snape's request. as per the prophecy, Neville would then have been the 'chosen one' and Voldemort does the choosing and marks him as his equal and unknowingly creates a horcrux. Neville would be raised by his grandmother and know all about Voldemort and his own legacy being raised in a pure blood family but as canon story goes he would not show any of his powers or be seen to have none or little like the original Neville and would have to live under the shadow of his own myth
@@a.r11384 Nevile wouldn't have the protection of the sacrificial love, since the only reason lily's sacrifice was different from any other person who died for a loved one was because she was given a choice, move aside and live or die. That's why James who died first protecting Lily and Harry didn't give magical protection
@@whisperinwind87 he could though? his parents were tortured to insanity after voldemort disappeared and death eaters were trying to find him. there is no reason to believe he wouldnt give the same option to a pure blood wizard as he gave the mudblood. there doesnt need to be more reason other than he just doesnt want to kill a pureblood unarmed when they can live and serve him. its still a mother and her infant son. i highly doubt she would give up her child and live with it rather than die trying to protect it. im just saying that its still possible the same sacrificial love is possible we just dont know how that would play out yet
@@whisperinwind87 but thats not what saved Harry. What saved Harry was Voldemort believing the prophecy was true and thereby making it true. The 'lovecrux' or sacrificial love was why Voldemort (quirrel) couldn't touch him. well at least not till Voldemort used Harry's blood to come back to life. that's m theory anyways.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I perdict that if Harry hadn't called the Knight Bus, then he would have met Sirus and the whole book would have been Harry trying to convince everyone that Sirus is innocent and/or he tries to go on the run with Sirus because he thinks that he is already expelled from Hogwarts.
@Suzie Ayers • don't trust it
DONT TRUST THEM THEY’RE NOTHING BUT DANGER.
@@FieryToad THANK YOU
@@incredibly_incredible632 NO PROBLEM BRO
What If Draco Malfoy went to get his wand instead of his mother the first year ? Harry wouldn’t have met him at the robe shop (giving him a negative view of slytherin, so he may not have asked the hat to not put him there) and how strong of a wizard would Draco actually be if the wand chose him, instead of using whatever his mom picks for him.
That was already made. It’s what if Harry wasn’t in Slytherin. It’s on the channel, it revolves that Draco and Harry never met in the robe shop so Harry didn’t have a negative view of Slytherin so he didn’t ask the sorting hat not to put him in it
@@theeeveelutionist7245 yeah that part was done, but I am curious about Draco getting his wand the proper way. Could be interesting.
harry was already told by hagrid that slytherin is where most dark wizard come from so he had to thought on slytherin as a bad view
Actually Yes ... I love this comment and hope they make a video about if Draco was there or not to get his wand.
I always thought the wand chooses the wizard, so I always assumed Draco would go meet his mother at the wand shop after getting his robes.
I personally don't know if his mother picked out the wand because Olivander would have told Narcisia, "the wand chooses the wizard" and she would want her son to have the best. Meaning she would have waited on Draco to arrive before buying any wand... but who knows for sure. Very interesting question/ topic.
The line is to the effect of "Mother is looking at wands". It's not that she was buying Draco's wand for him, but that she was likely checking out different wand shops to get a sense for the quality, or otherwise at Ollivander's and talking about Draco to Ollivander to give him some idea of what kind of wand might suit Draco. So nothing should change at all on the front you seem most interested in - Draco would be as good of a wizard as in canon.
One question though: _Would_ Sirius have revealed himself to Harry? because I i rememeber correctly, at the end of the book he states: "I just wanted to _see_ you, before i went north" I'm not sure he would have revealed himself at all. Sirius can be very singleminded when he has something he wants to do and he might have thought that revealing himself might delay and/or stop him from enacting revenge. Also, he has to asssume that Harry knows who he is _and_ thinks he was the one responsible for his parents murder, so revealing himself might be a dangerous play
Wouldn’t Cedric survive in this scenario, since Harry probably did much better in the tournament due to Sirius’ help and him being animagus, so he gets to the cup first
He wouldnt be able to transform as an animagus yet, becoming an animagus takes years
@@mreevee7785depends on the person but most likely yes. But there’s still a high chance Harry would get to the cup first
@@mreevee7785no it doesn't it takes a month & change (the first step being hold a specific type of leaf under your tongue for an entire month) it took James Sirius & Peter years to figure out how to do it because they didn't know how to do it whereas Sirius can just tell the golden trio exactly how it's done
I’m really enjoying the What if Harry Potter series. Really enjoyed the what if Harry was put in the Slytherin House. It’d be nice if you could put it fanfic written form
It’d be really cool if they could hire fic writers, and people to read the full fics.
@@elfi643 ...Dumbledores Existence - or should i say Powerlevel - should have been a
really easy Solution.
Ever since the what if Harry Potter was in Slytherin series i get so excited when I see a new what if theory from SCB
There's no way Harry, Ron and Hermione could become Animagi in less than a year. It took Harry's Dad - as well as Sirius and Pettigrew - the better part of three years. Not even Hermione, as brilliant as she is, could have done it in less than a year.
It takes less than a year to actually do it. But 3 years to figure out how to do it.
@@alesztra937no, I think it took them 3 years because it's a difficult process and the time has to be right, if the full moon night is even cloudy the whole process has to start again. It also might have taken a while to get the storm that they needed to complete it
@@alliyanasgalaxies the book states that it took them 3 years to figure out how to do it, and they finally succeeded in their 5th year at Hogwarts. Interpret that as you will
So far my only issue is that Sirius, when he comes across Harry, has recently escaped Azkaban, and with the trauma of regular prison mixed with the extreme emotional trauma that comes from having lived for 12 years with dementors (even though he was able to stave off *completely* breaking because of his innocence) he would still be a bit more... crazy, at least would seem so to Harry. I think even most of the year later, when they actually do meet, you can see how crazed Sirius is, still recovering from that. I imagine Harry could still be convinced somehow, but I think Sirius might not have had all his faculties well enough to present himself calmly to Harry
But would Cedric really die? If Harry gets help with the tournament from Sirius, shouldn't he get a better score?
what if ron was given the half blood princes book?
alot could change, even affecting deathly hallows, as harry would not be close to slughorn.
Slughorn still would've secretly desired to adopt Harry on the spot.
Presumably Ron would've swapped books w/ Harry because he had a harder time reading snapes handwriting so Harry would've still had the book
At the end of Prisoner, while Harry is in the hospital prior to going back in time, they talk to Fudge and try to explain to him that Sirius is innocent and that it was Peter Pettigrew, which fudge in usual style brushes off without even consideration. And this also serves as the point where Fudge goes from being supportive of Harry to starting to doubt everything Harry and Dumbledore say, considering harry to be a bit delusional, an opinion that only gets stronger the next year after the tournament. In this alternate series of events however Harry and Dumbledore are proven to be correct, Fudge can't ignore it, and it doesn't give Fudge any reason to be immediately as doubtful about their claims. Meaning next year when Voldemort may still come back, Fudge may not dismiss the possibility right away. Given the ministry was just shown that it had had the wrong prisoner for 12 years, there's be more pressure to not mess up another major decision. Furthermore with Sirius being proven innocent, the Ministry can't effectively handwave all the terrible happenings afterward (like the Azkaban breakout) as being done by him. I think in this series of events, the Ministry is not in as much of denial about Voldemort's return, and may actually provide some aid or resistance to Voldemort's rise.
If Harry was also around Grimauld place, the dementor attack that happened at the beginning of Order of the Phoenix likely doesn't happen, or if it does happens in an area where Sirius is likely to be able to be a witness as well. Personally I feel it wouldn't have happened at all, it's a overall more crowded area, with at least a few magical people in the area, plus the place would have been protected, it'd be harder for Umbridge to hide her involvement most likely. Furthermore Umbridge had so much power because she continued to try convincing Fudge that Dumbledore was after his position, a position Fudge already believed, a claim that given the current standing of Dumbledore and Harry may not be as effective. Even if it did occur, the farce of a trial was done so mostly to discredit Harry and Dumbledore further, again not as easy considering their new standing, having helped them capture Pettigrew. All of this I feel means Voldemort won't be as easily able to rise to power. The order won't have to be as secretive in it's missions to avoid the ministry catching wind, the ministry itself may ramp up searches and act on odd intel they'd otherwise ignore. Harry's testimony on the Death eaters he saw in the graveyard may be more respected and looked into. The ministry may have started taking the idea that it could have been infiltrated more seriously, which may help prevent the collapse of the ministry as quickly. Voldemort may still rise to power, but it'd be much more difficult for him this time. The order may have even informed the ministry about Voldemort's plans for the prophesy, making it harder to get ahold of it. Overall I feel Voldemort would get back to power slower in this scenario, and many of the faithful death eaters may have been caught, and it'd have been more difficult for the others to go around recruiting people to the death eater's side, meanwhile being easier for the order to go about recruiting people. Furthermore Dumbledore wouldn't have had to go into hiding and could have been active in the events preceding the battle, including being there right off the bat if a battle even occurred at all, meaning he may have stepped in to fight Voldemort and defend Sirius like he did with Harry in the books. With Dumbledore still in the picture Voldemort may have not even gone to the ministry. Considering it was Dumbledore who went through and effectively tied the death eaters up with magic prior to fighting Voldemort, Bellatrix would have most likely been included with the other captured death eaters.
But personally I struggle to see why there's even be a battle at all, if there's higher ministry presence, Dumbledore is still in play, the order likely being larger, and Voldemort's forces likely not as well setup yet, I don't see Voldemort going to the Ministry, and Harry having been told of the prophesy and knowing how the mirror works wouldn't be tempted to go there either, so neither party that can remove the prophesy would end up going to the Ministry, which means the battle likely never even takes place, which of course would have it's own major consequences, like the Malfoy's not being super punished by having Draco being forced to kill Dumbledore, so who knows how Half-Blood prince would Happen.
If I have one criticism of several of your what if theories, it's that you seem to arbitrarily choose plot points that should still happen and then force the story to go in that direction even if it's the least organic option. A small change could likely alter major parts of the story into being unrecognizable, trying to force the story to follow similar plot beans despite these major changes just feels forced, it feels unnatural, really odd or weird decisions or events are done by the characters in order to move closer to connecting the desired plotlines. Sometimes this even involves creating new information or items/people/creatures/magic etc. out of thin air despite there being no basis for them in established lore, or even sometimes contradicting established lore(*cough* several things in the what if Harry was in Slytherin videos *cough*)
The 7 part series is supposed to do some of those things, but what in it was against lore?
if you say controlling the Basilsk like many say then your wrong for Riddle didn't know that Harry was a horcrux.
The ministry still wouldn't believe Harry or that's to say Fudge wouldn't want to however Crouch is likely still alive so with his support they may be convinced.
Can you make this comment any longer?
@@MordechaiHershoffyoutube I have no issue with the controlling the basilisk. But rather more the out-of-nowhere idea that the phoenix tears healing the basilisk's eyes but not it's death gaze, that part in specific feels like something out of a bad fanfic more than a theory.
Even so you're claim that it's incorrect to assume Harry wouldn't be able to control the Basilisk simply because he's a horcrux is odd. While it might be possible, there's no evidence in the books or other source materials that Harry being a horcrux would have allowed him to control the Basilisk, the concept that being a horcrux allows Harry to control it is not in source material and is entirely speculation in the video. There's no evidence disproving it, but there's also no evidence supporting it, it's entirely supposition. That said, I don't have issue with that part of the video as I said above.
I feel I have to clarify that I'm a Patreon supporter, so don't think I have ill will towards the channel, I just feel some of these videos labeled "theory" have more of fanfic elements to them than they should.
As for your claim about the ministry, I just disagree. As I stated, Fudge only starts doubting Harry and Dumbledore when they try convincing Fudge that Sirius is innocent and that the real culprit was Ron's pet rat in Prisoner of Azkaban. This is the moment fudge goes from being friendly to doubting Harry's sanity and Dumbledore's intentions (which Umbridge then takes advantage of the mistrust to convince Fudge that Dumbledore's trying to take over his office). Without that interaction there's no catalyst for that mistrust to fester. Though you raise an excellent point about Crouch if he manages to not die in this scenario (Though in the proposed scenario Barty Crouch Jr. still goes under the guise of Moody during the tournament so who knows if he would survive)
@@TheEmergencyBanana I could probably add a few paragraphs if you desire.
@@DreadKyller As for the Basilsk eyes its possible that it wouldn't heal the death stare because the healing process will just give it back eyes and the eyes that it started with had the death stare though I agree its not very good.
as for proof that Harry could control you have the fact that the diary controlled it, granted the diary is only horcrux where as Harry has himself to, but its 100% leaning towards him controlling it.
I won't disagree about your feeling that sometimes they make things happen because that's the fanfic.
Fudge only started doubting Harry after the Rita Skeeter article, and even that he wasn't likely to believe till it was convenient for him when he didn't want to believe Harry on Voldemort's return, he didn't seem to disbelieve Harry about Madam Maxime because he was nuts, but it looked more like he kind of believed him but didn't want to and dismissed him as young (from my understanding), also he thought Harry was under a spell when he said Sirius was innocent, and thought Snape crazy he didn't doubt Harry's sanity, he just thought he was confused (don't remember the name of the spell), and he also didn't know that Harry was a Parselmouth which he found out in Rita's article along with his "collapsing around the school" thing, so I don't think he needed the Sirius thing to make him say Voldemort's not back.
And Crouch in my opinion would survive since he wouldn't be under the impirus curse, for when his would escape he'd be on guard and probably warn Dumbledore immediately about his son, even though Bertha wouldn't be lost and killed, for he would know what his son is trying to do, and pretending that he's still Moody he wouldn't have a chance to kill him at the time without raising Dumbledore's suspesions, plus he might not overpower Moody by himself, although its possible he would, but in the real timeline he had Wormtail's help.
I feel like Dumbledore's animagus would be a lion. Not only would it go with him being a Gryffindor, lions have an air of "regal-ness" that would fit Dumbledore. Or, a platypus since it's an unusual animal and is deceptively dangerous.
Or a bird
Phoenix, easily.
@@dragonlord1935animaguses cant be a magical animal did you not watch the video
Rumbleroar
I can't wait for the next episode of "Parallel Universe Potter." These are always so fun. ^_^
Dumbledores Existence - or should i say Powerlevel - should have been a
really easy Solution.
I can't understand why Harry never noticed Peter right next to Ron when ever he looked at the map.
Really good point. Also, Ron has been sleeping with Peter and his brothers used to own the map? Were they being polite in not saying anything?
He probably stayed in the dorms most of the time, and Harry just thought it was someone in another year… 🤔 Also, Harry is a bit oblivious at the best of times 🤷🏽♀️
@@kellysouter4381 😂
I imagine the twins teasing Percy a lot about his “friend”, while Percy just gets annoyed that they’re “making things up” - and since they aren’t really close they never realise…
There is a theory that the marauders had a spell to prevent them from appearing on the map
Yeah I think the current theory is the marauders don't show up on the map, also didn't scabbers go missing alot coz of crookshanks so I guess he wasn't in the doorm that much
In reality, that’s why they should do a prequel series of the marauders. That would’ve been so awesome to watch.
If Sirius still dies Harry has to go back to the Dursley's meaning we still get the 7 Potters, but this time Harry doesn't recognize Stan meaning he doesn't give himself away and it becomes very likely that several more people die because Voldemort doesn't leave the main battle to chase down Harry. He also doesn't learn that using another wand doesn't work and doesn't start pursuing the elder wand.
Really good catch!
Nobody can lift or move prophecies except for the people whom they're about though.
But the image of Neville flopping uselessly magikarp style is hilarious and I'm gonna hang on to that 😂🐟
I loved all the jokes in this episode!
Neville as a goldfish is brilliant!
I never really understood how Sirius (or really any non-criminal, e.g. Hagrid) could even end up in Askaban. There is truth serum in the Harry Potter stories, so why don't they use it to get confessions out of criminals (or you know... find out that they weren't guilty after all...)? Then again, I only know the movies mostly, just started reading the third book :)
The justice system is broken
Good question. The brothers have already released a video on veritaserum a while ago.
It's two reasons a) if someone altered your memories, which we know can happen, then when you take the veritaserum, you would tell them what you believe to be true which would be the altered memories and b) they wanted to make an example of out Sirius and they didn't even give him a trial, they just put him straight into azkaban
He was send without trails
And Snape would probably have been tapped to brew the veritaserum it if the book timeline stands. He could easily let his hatred of Sirius and his decent standing with Fudge make a different potion that would get Sirius condemned no matter what .
The scene at 2:26 of Harry with his luggage crossing the street after fleeing from Privet Drive always makes me think of one of those old movies from the 80s or 90s. As Harry's walking with his luggage through the dark street, I just have that deep voiceover in my head saying something like, "Before long Harry's life had spiraled out-of-control. He was addicted to magic mushrooms, magic hat tricks, and constantly playing Magic the Gathering". 😂😂
Also, if Harry was living with Sirius, He would probably be taught actual occlumency instead of what happens in order of the phoenix with snape forcefully entering his mind. Sirius probably would have been the one to teach him as well, because of his family up until him aside from Dorea Potter Née Black being a dark aligned family. Being aligned with the dark arts, his family likely taught him occlumency. Or any pure blood family teaches the young ones occlumency to protect family magics. Either way, Harry probably had a proper teacher for occlumency as opposed to Snape.
Dude Snape is actually a fantastic teacher, Harry just doesn’t see it because he doesn’t like him
The problem isn’t that SNAPE can’t teach him, it’s that HARRY is just terrible at Occlumency
We never see any evidence that Sirius is any sort of Occlumens OR Ligilimens, and have no reason to believe that he would have been able to teach Harry - although still, even if he could, Harry is just terrible at Occlumency and never would’ve learned anyway, it wouldn’t make a difference🤷♂️
@@samstromberg5593not really, it's crystal clear Snape was using that opportunity to bully Harry
I'd be super curious to hear the Carlin Brothers take on mid-book theories. Basically an in-depth look at the Mystery presented by each book, the clues leading to the correct answer, and all the red herrings along the way. What clues were there to implicate Quirrel and exonerate Snape? Who were the candidates for Heir of Slytherin? Who put Harry's name in the Goblet? Questions like that, with a deep look at all the options presented, and how we could potentially have guessed the reveal before it happened.
"How many people had to die for the boy who lived?"
The one and only truth in cursed child.
I just had the idea that since Wormtail is not there to help with fighting Madeye Barty Crouch jr might never attack him and so Moody is actually teaching for the year while Barty jr will have to polyjuice into his dad for the whole year and in the end maybe even survive since he would actually have to be in the graveyard to do the ritual to recover Voldemort’s body.
Harry would’ve just asked for his permission slip to Hogsmeade to be signed 😂
Let’s not forget: Trelawney would never get that pay raise for making her second ever real prophecy “he will return tonight…”
The Nevile turning into a goldfish is reminding me the how to become an anamagus video where Ben became a fish at the end.
What if Dumbledore was aware of Serious’ innocence but because of Harry’s magical protection while at the Dursleys, he decided to help frame Serious for the murders. That way Harry is safe from Voldemort and his legal guardian is out of the way for “Dumbledore’s Big Plan”
precisely why i don't like dumbledore
This was a question posed by Wizarding World for Snape's birthday on the 9th and it really blew my mind. What if the books were told from his POV instead of Harry's? How would the story change with Snape as the hero all along?
You've already done "what if Harry was in Slitherin" but what about "what if Hermione was in Ravenclaw" or even better. "What if Nevel was in Hufflpuff?"
Lol Neville being a goldfish makes me think of him as a magikarp just flopping around blubbing.
Imagine Harry asking Aunt Petunia could stay there at least some. Also, what do you think that Harry thought when he saw Snape's memories in the Pensive toward the last of DH and found out that the "awful boy" that in OP Aunt Petunia said she overheard describing Azkaban was Snape instead of his father?
These Harry potter what ifs are actually well thought out. Not too many sudden twists to make the story too different like I've seen some others try making. Keep it up boys.
If Harry spends a lot of time in Grimmauld Place... maybe he recognizes the locket before they have to drink the soup in the cave, or in worst case know exactly where to look when the time comes as he knows RAB's room.... effectively making Harry and Voldemort flatmates.
I love your "What if" ideas. You always do such a great job exploring the possibilities without ignoring the rules set up in the books. So much fun to watch!
I will forever be upset that The Super Carlin Brothers didn't get the chance to write Fantastic Beasts 2-5
Do "What if Sirius didn't die" for a change 😂
I am always delighted to find another Harry Potter theory video from SCB! I'm really hoping to get an analysis of Fred and George's true wizarding abilities, because despite their achievement of only three O.W.L.s they're gifted wizards, especially at Divination -- or perhaps they're just naturally good Seers.
Also, where do Dementors come from? Is a Dementor just the physical form of an Obscurus?
What points towards Fred and George being seers? I've never considered them as such and am having troubles remembering anything that pointed towards that.
I think they have a video about where dementors come from. Don’t remember the title though.
@@JasperPeters Their bet with Ludo Bagman, "Krum (of Bulgaria) will get the Snitch, but Ireland will win," along with their always knowing whom Ginny and Ron are dating. We only saw this revealed in the movie, but they call both out in the books, sometimes with no visible way of knowing.
@@thatonepossum5766 That they are gifted wizards is not in any doubt, though. Professor Flitwick, a powerful wizard in his own right, left a bit of the swamp they made in the corridor as a tribute to the magic involved.
@@arinerm1331 I think you might have @ the wrong person? I’m a little confused. 😅
I have an idea for an interesting series. What if instead of Harry and Ron sitting together on the train, Harry sat in Dean and Seamus’. This would throw everything off and would make it so that the trio was them instead of Ron, Hermione, and him
As unfortunate as it is, Dean and Seamus don't have enough personality to support this sort of video.
Dean and Seamus are filler characters. There's nothing even remotely interesting about that what-if scenario.
Why are these so good!?!? I love how you tie in the deaths that need to happen. Keep the what ifs coming!!
I NEED TO WRITE THIS! Maybe then, I can move Sirius past his lack of emotional and psychological development and actually LIKE him again! It worked for Jayne from Firefly/Serenity!
Good luck, I'll do the same. (Without offing Sirius though...)
Tell me when it's done, I will read it
J’s impression of annoyed Barry Crouch Jr. was hilarious and amazing. Very good “annoyed British person” impression
i love all the what if videos, alternate timeline videos are some of my favourite things on the internet
Missed the normal Hey Brother! However, imagining Neville flopping around as a goldfish is pretty hilarious. That would be an interesting theory in general - what animagus is each character? Lockhart as a peacock maybe?
But what about Witherwings?! Sirius rides off with him into the sunset. And also, Bertha wasn't important for Triwizard info. She told Peter about Barty Jr. BJ wouldn't have broken free in time if it wasn't for Peter coming in to put the imperius charm on dad.
Loving these WHAT IFS? !!!!!!
i always wondered this thank you for doing a theory about it!
“I know them, they’re like my best friends, what are the odds?” Honestly, while not explicitly stated, it’s been my head canon that A) Peter chose a family that was close to the order because he knew that 1) It was unlikely for Black to get out and 2) it might offer him some more protection than being in a random wizard/muggle’s family. And Additionally B) Mrs. Weasley, being someone from the order, KNEW that Harry was entering his first year, and intentionally tried to find him outside of platform 9 3/4 so that him and Ron might kick things off. I believe B more strongly than A, but it does lessen the odds somewhat.
Dumbledores Existence - or should i say Powerlevel - should have been a
really easy Solution.
A what if series of a detailed 1-7 books if Duddly Dursley was a wizard would be a great series especially from your guys prospective
JK Rowling probably didn't want to research 🇬🇧 divorce and custody laws.
I can see Petunia softening her stance. Vernon hated the magical world.
Man, these theory episodes are absolute FIRE
My GOD, man, don't you guys ever get tired of being awesome?
Love these what if videos, could you do one where Harry accepts Lupins help in the 7th book?
These fan fiction theories are surprisingly entertaining. Makes me wish that you folks would head up the writing room in a reboot of the original movies.
Peter knew the Weasley's because they both were on the Order, so he hides with them because of the possibility to listen to news from Voldemort or Harry and knowing that they are humble he wouldn't be in danger
Actually neither Molly nor Arthur were in the 1st order but Molly's older brothers were so it's possible that Peter knew Molly through them
The messed up thing is that the books imply that becoming an unregistered animagus is automatically a lifetime sentence to Azkaban so he'd actually be sent right back there if they knew.
The only reason Lupin knew Petegrew was still alive was because of the marauders map right? So they would have had no reason to suspect a random rat if Harry hadn’t gone to school and gotten the map from the twins. So that would prolong the hunt for Serius and, if harry still goes to school, he could still encounter a death eater and learn the patronus charm. He would definitely tell his friends about pettigrew and they would try to gather evidence that he was the traitor (still assuming he was dead) until harry obtains the marauder’s map, but it’s likely the rat would overhear something at some point and not even be in the castle at that point. Everyone would continue to believe Pettigrew was dead and have to find some other way to prove Serius’ innocence.
Can I just say, I absolutely love these SCB what if videos. I've fallen in love with the hairy and Slytherin videos.
I would love to see these animated in some fashion. ;)
Either way, Jay, Ben, and crew... Please keep pumping these out. We love them so much. Excellent work.
So, Barty Crouch would go to Albania to rescue Voldemort and bring him back to Little Hangleton, and there (without Wormtail), he has to nurse Voldemort. That means he can't go to Hogwarts to put Harry's name in the Cup, because Voldemort needs constant feeding and care to keep his feeble body intact and Wormtail is in Azkaban. Probably he contacts one of the other Death Eaters like Malfoy to tend to him while Barty Crouch Jr goes to Hogwarts disguised as Moody, but which one? He can't really trust any of them, all of them have betrayed him and pretended to the Ministry they were under the Imperius curse. He's terribly weak and none of them would stick out their necks for a wizard who's lost his powers. Not exactly loyal those Death Eaters!
Oooooh, I wonder if the reveal about James and his friends being a bullies would sting even more! Now that Sirius and Harry can have proper chats and Sirius is stuck a bit in the past, of course he's going to regale Harry with their adventures at Hogwarts and it'd be rose-tinted. If Sirius ever mentions dealing with Snape at school, he'll make Snape sound like the absolute worst. Harry would believe him, too; he already thinks his father is amazing and Snape is horrible. And then he sees Snape's memory and he'll realize that all of those fun stories where the Marauders "got back" at Snape were them being bullies, plane and simple.
Lupin says that Snape gave as good as he got. I don't think it was bullying so much as like Harry and Malfoy. Every chance those to get to take a swipe at each other they do.
"So, no Stan Shuntpike in this timeline"
*A small price to pay for Sirius*
The snack that smiles back, Longbottom!
Possible 7 part series.
What if Voldemort went after the Longbottoms instead of the Potters?
i always wondered why voldemort didnt think that peter may have set him up the night he killed lily and james. he gets disembodied and peter is a known turncoat. especially since peter didnt look for voldemort right away.
Because he was giving Voldy Moldy info for most likely a year before telling him about the Potters' location
“The Marauders reborn” warmed my heart like nothing else
Keep up the what if’s and I’ll keep watching! You guys really have a talent for it!
How about this for an on going series,
What if Harry was raised by Sirius books 1 through 7
Not in prison I assume
@@TheFantazingo obviously lol, I ment like what if Pettigrew was in prison instead
God (father) yes.
hey supercarlin brother i highly recommend looking into the scandal/controversy/big problem with better help, u probably don’t know but wanted to let you know before you kept promoting them on ur channel
i love these what if videos keep em coming!!
i honestly thing the timer for the ad is amazing thing you guys add to the video
Here's a What If Scenario: What if Snape had been allowed to teach Defense Against the Dark Arts earlier? (Maybe as a reward for his protection of Harry during Philosopher's Stone, so he'd get the job instead of Lockhart)
Am I the only one that thought that the Weasley's were in Egypt up until they meet Harry in Diagon Alley? I mean I feel that Fudge would've sent Harry to live with them for the remainder of the summer instead of letting him wander about. Or Molly would've shown up herself and dragged him to the burrow.
They come back from Egypt a week before school started. That's where they meet Harry and Hermione in Diagon Alley.
Note: Harry confronted the horn tail before Sirius gave him the mirror…. Which was at Christmas at Grimauld Place.
Yeah, but if harry started living with Sirius at Grimauld Place in year 3, maybe Sirius would have given him the mirror way before that
It's amazing that you guys have still so much HP content, I love it
I love the idea of the golden trio becoming animagus! Harry and Ron would be chatting it up in the common room about how awesome it would be, Hermione would turn around and talk about how dangerous it would be if instructions aren't followed to the letter. Ron says, "Well it's a good thing we have the brightest witch of the age to help us." Hermione blushes and shows a book on the subject because she too was really wanting to do it all along.
Neville can’t produce a corporeal patronus, meaning his patronus doesn’t have a designated form, but he is still able to do the wispy shield-like thing. The fact that so many of the DA can produce corporeal patronuses (patroni?) is supposed to be a testament to the talent within the DA rather than another example of something Neville can’t do right.
OMG! this what if scenario would’ve sounded amazing to read if it was canon.
11:59-12:43 The idea of Harry, Ron and Hermione becoming Animagi sounds awesome, especially if Harry was able to turn into a stag and fight the acromantulas in the maze. 16:13-16:26 🦌🐶🦦 🕷️
And while it still would’ve been sad that Sirius dies in this what if scenario at least Harry would’ve had a good few more happy moments with him.
Love the what-if’s! Keep ‘em coming!
Huh, Snape's animagus form being a bat would fit, but I think a black cat might fit as well. I mean, black cats are often misunderstood and seen as unlucky despite not doing anything, somewhat like how everyone sees Snape as the bad guy. Cats were also considered like royalty in Egypt and Snape is the Half-Blood Prince after all. But also they have somewhat heightened senses, like Snape does, being able to almost know that Harry was there under the invisibility cloak. Plus they tend to lash out when threatened, like Snape sometimes does, this behaviour is seen when he causes a cut on James's face, calls Lily a mudblood by accident and starts throwing things at harry when he sees Snape's worst memory. And cats not getting along with dogs and attacking rats also could be similar to his relationship with Sirius and Pettigrew. Cats also are known for preferring solitude and quiet, dark places, like Snape does.
Maybe Snape thought bats were a cooler animal than cats.
I dont think you can choose your animagus form. I think it just represents who you are
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No toast was first
@@pretzelcat581 i think we got it at the same time
Congradulations
@@hyperhare0624 thank you 😊
@@hannahtaylor276 bow to toast guy
15:10 Ten out of Ten Doctors on that impression there, J!
Oh man J gets me every time. “Someone hold my polyjuice potion. I’ll show them how it’s done” lol omg!
I love your sweaters in the last two videos, where did you buy them?
Well, Molly's brothers were in the order before they were murdered by death eaters. So I'm guessing Peter knew he'd be safe living with order members' family. I'm sure he would have met Molly and Arthur before the Potters were killed.
What if Harry wakes up in his cupboard under the stairs at the end of the last book still 11 years old and thinks: "Well that was a weird dream!"?
I really like this video I think all of your what if are very interesting and very engaging to watch.