Schindlergrat - Die spektakulärste Sesselbahn Österreichs (St. Anton am Arlberg)
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- Der Arlberg - die Wiege des alpinen Skisports in Österreich. 1937 entsteht hier in dem kleinen Bergdorf Zürs am Flexenpass der erste Schlepplift der Alpenrepublik. Mit dem aufstrebenden Wintersporttourismus nach dem zweiten Weltkrieg folgen am Arlberg unzählige weitere Seilbahnen, die das Skigebiet seit dem Zusammenschluss von St. Anton, Lech-Zürs und Warth-Schröcken heute zum grössten seiner Art in Österreich wachsen lassen.
Die spektakulärste Anlage am Arlberg - und vielleicht in ganz Österreich - ist die Sesselbahn zum Schindlergrat. Mit ihrer steilen Trassierung über schroffes Relief ist sie ein einmaliges Relikt der Seilbahngeschichte der 80er Jahre. Als eine der ersten kuppelbaren Dreiersesselbahnen Österreichs wurde sie mit den Schweiger-Klemmen ausgestattet, der Weiterentwicklung der VR102. Im Winter 2018/2019 ist die Bahn zum letzten Mal in Betrieb, bevor sie einer Kabinenbahn weichen muss.
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Aufnahme: 22. März 2019
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Ein Oldtimer der seinesgleichen sucht :-) . Eine wunderschöne Dokumentation zu einer wunderschönen Seilbahn! Solche bewundernswerten Bahnen mit ihrem Nostalgie Flair werde ich schmerzlichst vermissen! Leider ist der Arlberg ein "Monster Skigebiet" bei dem ein Ersatz solcher Anlagen nicht gerade verwunderlich ist :-( !
Sehr schöne Bahn! Im März war ich am Arlberg, da war sie leider wegen Sturm geschlossen.
Zum thema Österreich: kommen von dort wieder mehr Videos oder war das nur ein kleiner abstecher?
PS: mir gefällt dein 449 Seiten großes Seilbahn Lexikon :)
Ja, ist für den Sommer geplant!
"Die Fahrt [...] ist aufregender als so manche Achterbahn in einem Freizeitpark." Ich, als Kirmes und Freizeitparkfan, fühle das... sehr!
Endlich mal wieder Österreich!
Nice video! That 3 person chairlift is goin' faster than a D-Line!!
Probably not faster than a D-Line, some of them go at 7 MPS,(meters per second), but even back in the 80's, Doppelmayr's ski lifts could still take over 2000 passengers per hour. This chairlift took around 2360 passengers every hour. Doppelmayr have almost always been capacity champions, but they haven't always been mechanical design champions.
They are actually a shit company now, because they have become excessively corporate like every other existing ski lift manufacturer has (except LST because they are almost never chosen to build any ski lifts at all), and they have taken over lots of individual ski lift manufacturers and thrown them, along with their ski lifts, in the bin, their D-Lines are too ugly, un-alpine, mainstream and city-like, and they are also crammed with capacity sensors, speakers, autonomous tech, as do their D-Lines ruin the meaning of a ski lift from being a simply means of transport up to the mountain, to being mainstream tech everywhere you step.
Once I'm done with all the trips to Austria/Germany/Switzerland/France (if I survive through 2022) I'll start bombing D-Lines with other haters of modern corporate people and modern sh*tty ski lifts that have no mechanical difference/character, no alpine looks, un-alpine tech being cramped into them along with toxic expectations that they raise.
By the way, you do make a brilliant mockery of the D-Line in your comment as the old ski lifts are much nicer and better in almost every aspect than are the D-Lines. D-Lines are the absolute Satan of all ski lifts that have ever existed. As are modern Leitner's and Poma's. Soulless, no mechanical differences, crammed with tech, ruining the meanings of ski lifts and are ugly and too mainstream in appearance as well, to summarize D-Lines for everyone here.
Och man, war in der Wintersaison 17/18 dort Skifahren und bin die Bahn nicht gefahren weil ich dachte das die langweilig ist, hätte ich es mal gemacht! Aber habe mich die ganze Zeit schon gefragt wofür diese Zweite Bahn obendrauf ist! Danke für die Beantwortung!
David Kl Eine Woche hast du noch die Chance
Oh, stimmt! Jo fahre dann mal grade 8 Stunden zu einem 3er Lift😂😂😂
Super!!!!!!
Kleiner Fehler: Die erste 2cld mit Schweigerklemme war die Wildkogelbahn 1976
Danke für die Korrektur! Die habe ich doch glatt übersehen.
Ich liebe deine Videos
Bin die Bahn schon gefahren da war ich noch relativ klein und mein Vater hatte immer Angst das etwas passiert😅
When was this ski lift built?
1981
Wie filmst du Lift-/Seilbahnfahrten. Hältst du die Kamera mit der Hand, oder verwendest du eine Helmkamera oder was hanz anderes.
Wieder mal ein toller und sehr informativer Beitrag!!
Eine sehr interessante und komplexe Anlage, besonders durch die raue Trassenführung und der eigenen Rettungsbahn. Wirklich schade das derzeit eine regelrechte Welle an Modernisierungsmaßnahmen über die Alpinen Wintersportgebiete schwappt. Millionenschwere Investitionen, deren Rentabilität sich letztendlich alleine nur durch das Wetter entscheidet, werden getätigt nur um jedes Jahr noch mehr Gäste auf den Berg zu bringen. Teilweise sicherlich sinnvoll aber fraglich in welchem Ausmaß.
Grundsätzlich stimme ich dir zu, die letzen Jahre waren aus historischer Sicht echt hart. Alleine 2019 sind so viele herausragende Bahnen auf der Abschussliste:
- Schindlergratbahn
- Männlichenbahn
- Zwölferhorn
- Rellerli
- Fleckalmbahn
Leider wird der Betrieb von solch "alten" Bahnen mit den Jahren nicht günstiger und eine Erhaltung als historische Denkmäler ist, anders wie bei z.B. Zügen oder Schiffen, dann doch eher nur für Randgruppen interessant...
So werden wir wohl die nächsten Jahre noch einige Bahnen verschwinden sehen...
100% Zustimmung!
da saß ich schon oft drin 😎😎👍👍
Pretty sure I heard about some VR102 Doppelmayrs in Japan.
3:00 What kind of grip product is it?
The grip was developed by the Austrian company Schweiger and was used by Doppelmayr in the 70s and 80s.
Wohne in st. Anton leider ist die neue schindlergratbahn ziemlich scheisse da es neue gondeln sind😓
What’s the second rope for?
Emergency system.
Kennt jemand den Schwarzkopf 4er Sessellift am Mölltaler Gletscher, bei dem man erst eine Schlucht überquert und dann eine steile Felswand empor klettert?
Ja kenn ich. Bin aber immer erst im April da gewesen, wo sie nur selten geöffnet war.
Is that a avalance cable section return station at 1:55 ?
It's a rescuing rope way. As you can see the way of the Cld is too extreme for get the people on the ground. Another danger:Avalanches.
So you pull them in the 2nd floor.
@@lukespitzegg Wow....I was wondering what that upper cableway was all about...They were sure careful/timid in those days....Today there are hundreds of lifts over the same kind of terrain....with no such provisions.
Gibt es von dir auch noch ein Video vom Nachfolger?
Diesen Winter eher nicht. Der Terminkalender ist schon voll...
@@seilbahntv wie schaut es diese Saison aus?
👌ein hoch der fa. schweiger lg aus fulpmes
Kennst du die Schlick 2000?
Da fährt der 1967 erbaute Galtalmlift das letzte mal. Das isr einer der letzte Doppelmayr Schlepplifte mit Zahnkranzantrieb.
👍👍👍👍
Nice vor meiner Haustür wann hast du Das Video Gefilmt?
Ende März
@@seilbahntv Vor dem Video Gefragt Erst Dann Gesehen trotzdem Danke!
unfortunately I only speak English, where is this lift?? would love to ski there
St. Anton am Arlberg
@@herpaderppa3297 Not any more. Doppelmayr and the austrian authorities have forced their stupid efficiency and modernity mandates on it and killed it. I fucking hate governmental authorities and those who replace old ski lifts for modern ones, I want them dead. It has brought me to depression the evilness of governmental authorities and big global ropeway corporations like Doppelmayr, Leitner and Poma(and possibly Bartholet too) have become so power hungry, dictatorial and evil. THEY SHOULD HAVE NO RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT ROPEWAYS GET PUT UP AND WHICH GET TAKEN DOWN!!!
Die neue Bahn verlauft quasi auf gleicher Strecke, hat aber keine Bergebahn. Das Relief ist jedoch das gleiche. Wo liegen hier die Gründe?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. People claiming the D-Lines are safer are wrong. Schindlergrat had an emergency mechanism, but it's sh*tty replacement doesn't!!!
T H E M O D E R N S C H I N D L E R G R A T H A S B E E N R O A S T E D O N A B O N E F I R E ! ! !
Besides the old lifts are rock solid metal and are very well looked after anyway so they never ever fail, so, there isn't that much of a safety difference between a D-Line and a 20th-century ropeway system... (unless if it's a Yan detachable chairlift, Yan's grips were the most badly engineered...)
Weshalb benötigt die neue EUB keine Bergebahn, wie sie bei der Sesselbahn vorhanden war?
Leider jetzt eine 10er Gondel... Und wieder ein 3er Sessellift weniger... Schade wirklich, dass das mittlerweile so ein Trend ist, die ganzen alten, charmanten und einfach schönen Lifte erneuern...
Schuld daran kann man Devilmayr und Leitnercifer geben, denn Leitner baute 2009 am Kronplatz die erste moderne 10-MGD
während Doppelfucker moderne 10-MGD-Bahnen mit den Demon-Line-Seilbahnen populär machte.
Da moderne 10-er Gondelbahnen schneller sind, aufgrund ihrer unannehmbar hohen Kapazität mehr Geld generieren und viel haben
von digitalisierter Technik darin, um die alten Seilbahnen lächerlich zu machen, sind die modernen 10-MGD's komplett
die Bedeutung von Skigebieten ruinieren.
Skigebiete müssen traditionelle altmodische Seilbahnen haben und seltene und einzigartige Seilbahnen haben.
Sie waren nie digitalisiert und haben gläserne moderne Mainstream-Scheiße gemacht und sollten es auch nie sein, und wenn alle Seilbahnen
Wären immer wieder dieselben alten UNI-G- oder D-Line- oder modernen Leitner/Poma/Bartholet-Seilbahnen, keine Seilbahnen wären es jemals überhaupt interessant.
Autoritäten, Seilbahnbesitzer und Seilbahnunternehmen sollten die Meinungen von Seilbahnbegeisterten berücksichtigen, anstatt sie zu ignorieren und wiederholen der gleichen Seilbahnesystemen noch endlos. Begeisterung sollte immer an erster Stelle stehen, aber wir leben leider in einer Diktatur -essenzielle-einzige Gesellschaft, in der es uns als Gesellschaft nicht erlaubt ist, gegen staatliche Autoritäten zu rebellieren oder große Konzerne wie Doppelmayr, unabhängig davon, was sie tun, ist richtig oder falsch (in diesem Fall was
Doppelmayr und die anderen 3 Seilbahnhersteller sind im Unrecht, wenn sie stromhungrig sind und das wiederholen
dieselben Seilbahnesystemen endlos).
Irgendwann werde ich eine Rebellion gegen moderne Seilbahnen anführen... Hätte ich aber schon vor Jahren machen sollen. :/
Einige alte Seilbahnen, darunter der Schindlergrat, hätten gerettet werden können, wenn ich vor ungefähr 8 Jahren einen schimpfen auf CZcams hochgeladen hätte warum moderne Seilbahnen schlecht sind.
Sorry kleine Korrektur
Der erste schlepplift gab es in Davos (er heisst Bolgen) der hat dieses jahr glaube ich jubiläum
Aber sonst perfekt
Der erste am Arlberg
Und in Österreich. Der erste Skilift im weiteren Sinne stand schon 1908 im Schwarzwald. Bolgen war von 1934 und der erste Schlepplift der Schweiz.
Frag mich aber immernoch warum der herr Doppelmayer sich nicht mit ei geschrieben hat frag mich immer in der gondel wie ich das nu lesen soll
Hey , schau mal in Heinzenberg in der Schweiz vorbei , es hat dort eine sehr interessante 2 er Sesselbahn!
Da hat es bereits Videos auf dem Kanal, sind schon etwas älter.
@@seilbahntv danke !
I don't understand a word of this English, ha!ha! Okay all in Europe don't understand English, and all Canadians, Americans, and British don't understand German, French, Italian, etc. But you'all know I was joking when I said that. After I read the English questions and English responses, I know it's something to do with this chairlift. Is something bad about it, is it going to be replaced? I never skied in Europe, Chile/Argentina, New Zealand, Australia, and eastern United States. By the way, there is skiing in Australia with peaks around 6,000 feet. Anyway I came across this CZcams video because I grew going skiing here in Michigan. I did go skiing out in Utah and Wyoming after high school and later when I was in the US Air Force in Colorado and New Mexico. Eighteen total skiing times at Eight places. Whopee!!! Now I have medical problems ironically my legs. So I'm not healthy and no money for skiing anyway. I was diagnosed of having Sarcoidosis years ago. I have Norwegian, Finnish, and Irish ancestry and very well I was presupposed to get Sarcoidosis because of my ethical background. Ski/snowboard safely, hug your kids or grandkids.
Unfortunately yes this excellent traditional rare Doppelmayr Von-Roll-gripped chairlift has been scrapped and replaced by an evil modern 10 passenger gondola lift... nothing was wrong with this chairlift at all!
Modern throw away society and modern ski lifts and their needless endless capacity expansion are nothing more than pure evil, same goes with digitalized society as well. Digital society can't stand a SINGLE THING that isn't digital just because it has no digital stuff in it. Schindlergrat certainly had no digital crap in it, it was from 1981, a far better year for ski lifts!!! EVERY year before 2015 was better for ski lifts!
What are the upper cables for? Is that a double-level chairlift?
No, he explained it in the video, but in German obviously :)
It's for rescuing people if there is a technical issue that prevents the lift from moving. Usually you would just use a rope to put the people on the ground, but the terrain is too steep for that.
Hmpf, je länger ich drüber nachdenke, desto mehr bereue ich es, nie mit der Bahn gefahren zusein. Aber gut, ich bin ja sowieso nie am Arlberg gewesen.
Mach bitte nach der Corona Krise ein Video zur Valugabahn.
Welcher Vallugabahn 1&2
Die Valugabahn in St. Anton am Arlberg. Wo denn sonst.
@@louis_2407 wirklich meinst ich kenn die nicht ich arbeite da ich meinte welche valluga bahn die 1 oder die valluga gipfel bahn also die 2🤦♀️
@@michellemair8453 Die 2. Oder noch besser beide.
Heuer extra nochmal hingefahren. Schade dass diese tolle Bahn einer 0815-Gondel weichen muss.
Wegen was gehst du dahin wegen dem Schifahren oder dem Liftfahren?
@@jannoheckl8626 Wegen den Liften. :D Ski Arlberg hat wenigstens noch ein paar tolle Bahnen. (Schindlergrat, Valluga Pendelbahnen, Valluga Schlepplift, Zugerberg-, Madloch- und Albona DSB) Am liebsten fahre ich 1er, 2er und 3er Sesselbahnen) Gondeln mag ich überhaupt nicht. (Außer irgendwelche Besonderen. Z.B Zwölferhornbahn am Wolfgangsee.)
@@maxfury1892 okay er ist ein liftfanatika😂
Schade dass sie weg kommt 😞
Has this been replaced by a gondola?
Unfortunately yes it has been replaced by a worthless scrap heap of a ski lift known as a "10-MGD Doppelmayr D-Line" back in 2019. It along with the Planai Dreiersesselbahn were the last first-generation Doppelmayr detachable chairlifts remaning in Austria with the Von-Roll-Schwaiger VR102 grips. There are the Wetterstein Sonnkogel and Schwarzkoepfle lifts in Ehrwald, Zell Am See and Silvretta Montafon, but they have DS(Doppelmayr System) grips. Still worth riding and filming though as they are beautiful lifts too just like Planai's Dreiersesselbahn and Schindlergrat. If you want a Doppelmayr Detachable Ropeway of the first generation with the Von Roll detachable VR102 grips, go to the Weisssee Gletscherbahn of Uttendorf or the Simeonovo gondola in Vitosha, Bulgaria.
I should also mention the Hahnenkopfle chairlift of Ifen, another wonderful Doppelmayr first-generation detachable chairlift, also replaced by a D-Line, back in 2017. Schindler and Planai's 3er were replaced in 2019.
I believe I rode this lift in 1987, if it was built before that. Great lift.
@@grizzkid795 Having never ridden Schindlergrat and never been to the Arlberg, but being a ropeway enthusiast I can simply say that Schindlergrat is exquisite and extremely mechanically beautiful, in general I think Doppelmayr's first-generation detachables (which Schindlergrat was one of) and fixed-grip chairlifts were some of the nicest that they ever made.
And yes this lift was built before 87. The Schindlergrat was built in 1981.
With your statement that Schindlergrat was great I can say the same for every old ski lift I've been on. Never had problems with any of them and I've ridden a lot of ski lifts in my time. The last one I rode was the Furgangen cable car in Bellwald and that was back on January 19, 2020. Haven't ridden any lifts in 2021 because of those idiotic authoritarianic Prime Ministers/Presidents/Chancellors of the UK and the awful EU and I'm extremely unhappy about that, but in general, all old ropeways are much better than a modern (2015 and Post-2015 ones) ropeway will ever be. They're interesting to look at, they're mechanically different, they don't have any tech in them (unlike the Post-2015 ones which are rammed with city-like unalpine tech), the housings on them are very thematically appropriate to the mountains and they are all that anyone would ever need to ascend to the slopes, instead of some urban city-like D-Line that's rammed with typical city tech all over it that's probably going to malfunction after like 10 years or something, compared to the 38 existence years that Schindlergrat had.
I do agree that some old chairlifts (ones with wooden/plastic planks/metal bars for seating or backrest) may be uncomfortable a little, however, but I'll never want any old ropeways to be destroyed ever for any reason. Whether it be comfort, speed, less technological advancements, whatever. I've always preferred old ropeways to the filthy modern ones and I always will do.
I wish to ride a lot more old ski lifts this year. I genuinely hope that I'll get there this year, unlike last year which meant nothing more than pain and suffering to me honestly...
Wohne in St. Anton fahre jeden Tag und heuer wird sie neu gebaut und zwar eine Gondel
Fahr mal die Sesselbahn an der Gefrorenen Wand am Hintertuxer Gletscher die ist spektakulär
HAt er schon...
You know, if it does get replaced, it might be put up for sale!
I saw an old 3-cld by Doppelmayr from the 80's for sale.
We should be preserving and rebuilding old lifts, and destroying new lifts.
Finally someone else having this opinion!
@Kanalname Yes indeed, although I'm actually one of many ski lift fans who are pissed off about the mass excessive smelting of the historic and mechanically different (and much more important than such a pathetic excuse as speed, comfort and efficiency) ski lifts.
2021 and 2019 are by far some of the worst years in the 21st century in terms of which lifts were replaced as they were all extremely rare. Schindlergrat, Planai and Planai Dreiersesselbahn, Telecabine Praz(Courchevel), Zwolferkogel(although that gondola is in storage awaiting a new home), Fleckalm, Rotkogel, Vellileck, Visnitz, Zinsberg(although that one is now in the United States, according to some american Ski Lift Enthusiasts. One of which made a recent appearance in the Arlberg.), Fleiding, Gabuhel, Jochelspitze, Mariazeller Burgeralpe(that one was f*cking 91 when it was murdered) Finstermunz(Lenggries, home of the rare Brauneckbahn, a former Wallmannsberger built in 1957 by Krupp, now modified from it's original shape), Fiescheralp, Mannlichen, Bruggerhorn, Maschgenkamm, Plan du Fou, Col Du Pouce, Tigignas-Savognin(although that one had mechanical problems. Same reason as to why Fleckalm died.), Eggli, and Zwoelferhorn.
The Cibouit 2-CLF of Serre Chevalier and the AT Flegere of Chamonix also died that year.
Of all the lifts murdered in 2019, I have ridden the Mannlichen, Bruggerhorn, Maschgenkamm and Zwoelferhorn lifts although I seriously am so angry that they were all replaced.
As for the ski lifts in 2021? Oh god, please freaking kill me. I am actually having such thoughts 2021 was so bad but it wasn't just because of ski lift losses to be truthful here, it was also because of losses of loved ones.
ALL ski lifts that were replaced in 2021 were extremely rare too.
1. Valiserabahn. 6-MGD Doppelmayr, first generation.
2. Rosskarbahn, rare Doppelmayr UNI system with middle station.(not many UNI's were made with middle stations)
3. Zugerberg and Madloch, rare 1960's Girak 2-CLF's. Madloch was highly original but Zugerberg's top station was replaced in it's later life.
4. Flying Mozart.
5. Rotmoosbahn(Hochzeiger).
6. Kreischberg. 1990's Girak.
7. Untermarkter Alm and Alpjoch. U-Alm was the last remaning Full-Doppelmayr 2-CLD/B in Austria and Alpjoch was the first Felix Wopfner detachable. (first built in 1989 as Muhlberg, moved to Hoch-Imst in 1995 and died there in 2020-f*cking-1 being the very satanic year that it is indeed.)
8. Nebelhornbahn, Italian cable car not in Italy.
9. Trois Vallees Express(Orelle). Longest Gondola Lift with no middle station. (I rode that one thankfully. Phew!)
10. Belvedere(Portes de Soleil) although that one isn't a super rare one it is worth mentioning since it also died in 2021.
11. Vallandry(although it is in storage awaiting a new home).
12. Roselette(Les Contamines).
13. Prebois(Les Orres), rare 1970s Montaz-Mautino 2-CLF.
14 and the one of which's loss makes me the angriest: Medran 1, Verbier. Unique hybrid between a Stadeli and a Giovanola and the last gondola lift ever made using Giovanola grips. (1984.)
And what's worst of all? I couldn't even go to ride these lifts because of those communists in the Houses of Parliaments taking away people's authority over their health and travel rights.
The mass modernization and the D-Lines and 10-passenger gondolas are getting out of hand. The only way to stop Doppelmayr, Leitner, Poma and Bartholet as is in general, the only way to stop big, corporate, monetary, econimical, modern and technocratic business people who always take away the good things and replace them with bad things regardless of anyone's opinion but theirs, is by raiding their factories and destroying their machinery that they make their loathesome modern ski lifts with.
We also need to attack the Federal Transport Office and the TUV of Austria as well because, being big corporate and federal organizations, they've invaded the ski lifts, and made sh*tty rules that the proper ski lifts(the old ones) must die within 30 or 40 years and be replaced by something like a D-Line or another bland piece of modern crap made by Doppelmayr, Leitner, Poma and Bartholet or something like that.
As I said earlier Federal and Corporate organizations only care about their views and they belittle individual people and completely disregard anyone who is unhappy with what they are doing. Therefore nobody can have reasonable discussions with them as they always deliberately try to come up with more and more reasons to make our views invalid and their views the only ones that should be listened to by anyone.
The only way to solve this is violence, as we unfortunately live in a modern, monetary, corporate, economical, centralized, technocratic business world where all of the big institutions are allowed to do anything they want and anyone who tries to stop them is either ignored or arrested, and where individuals are forced to do everything that the institutions and the governments say, such as getting jobs, paying taxes so the institutions and governments can keep the control that they have over the population of the world, sending their kids to school so they can be indoctrinated to follow only what the mainstream corporate monetary economical modern technocratic business people have to say, and buying survival essentials and keeping quiet and not questioning those in power, such people in power are very limiting of what we can and can't do and always try to demean and co-erse people into their game.
What creativity and inspiration ever comes out of the modern world? None.
The same thing has happened to ski lifts as what has happened to many other things in the world: Being taken over by excessive corporate modern economical monetary and technocratic business people, being thrown in the bin, and being replaced by uncreative and uninspirational lifts such as D-Lines(Doppelmayr), Multixes(Poma), Modern Leitners and Modern Bartholets. (although that's the only BMF detachable system ever developed as the first one was built in Val D'Isere in 2008, BMF's modern lifts are starting to become excessive.)
The 20th century, there were over 30 individual ski lift manufacturers and the mechanical designs changed up a LOT and there was a lot of variety to ride on back then.
But now in the 21st century, only 5 ski lift manufacturers, possibly 4 remain because of the punishing economy and greedy corporates such as Doppelmayr, and the mechanical designs never change up, and are now excessively taking away the variety of differently mechanically designed ski lifts around the world.
They're also now being rammed with tech such as occupancy sensors, speakers, autonomous technology, and other un-alpine city tech, the modern ski lifts are also too un-alpine and mainstream looking and too city-like, they take away the character of the ski resorts themselves because alpine resorts are NOT meant to have modern city buildings in them AT ALL, (which is what D-Lines, Modern Pomas, Leitners and Bartholets are), and they totally ruin the meaning of a ski lift: from being a way of transport to the mountain, to being mainstream tech crammed in every place you walk into.
The un-creative and un-inspiring corporate, modern, economical, monetary, technocratic, centralized, governmental, dictative, discriminatory and federal world
N e e d s t o b e s t o p p e d , and the creative, individual, non-discriminatory, non-dictative world of freedom and free thinkers needs to come back.
Power must be to the individuals. Not to big corporate and federal organizations like Governments, Tech/Pharma/Banking companies, and the TUV and Federal Transport Offices of Switzerland, France and Germany. (although Germany is obsessed with tradition and old-time things, therefore it has lots of extremely rare old ski lifts, thankfully more old ski lifts than modern onesactually.)
2015 was the devil's year of Ski Lifts: The D-Line and 10-passenger gondolas began invading the ski resorts that year. Before that year, it was a balance between old and modern but now with 10-MGD's and D-Lines in the picture, that balance is slowly falling in favour of the modern ski lifts and they are targeting the absolute rarest of ski lifts now and they have been for years.
Power to individuals, not to business. The corporate monetary federal economical technocratic centralized business people are humans too, as are individuals, therefore individuals must be treated with the same respect as are the big corporate and federal/governmental people, instead of being ignored, belittled, demeaned, invalidated and made insignificant like they are by these corporate and federal people who think and get treated like they're above everyone else and that they should be able to do whatever they want with nobody being allowed to stop them, which is obviously how it should NEVER be, but unfortunately is.
We must go back in time to 2015 and ensure that Doppelmayr, Leitner, Poma and Bartholet screw off immediately after the Kirchenkarbahn is built, as that is the first D-Line and it was built that year. The old lifts will be brought back to life again, could be next year, the year after, the decade after, or maybe in the next 50 years, time travel being the seemingly huge task that it is. One way or another we will reclaim our old ski lifts and put the world back to perfectness again just like how it was before 2015 and every year after 2015.
Oh and one more thing, the 3-CLD identical to Schindlergrat that was for sale was the Planai Dreiersesselbahn. But because of nobody buying it in time, and the TUV's communistic regulations, it was scrapped sadly... that's another thing to go back in time and save, isn't it?
@@kanalname5996 I also forgot to mention some other lifts that died in 2021. They were all in Les Menuires. They were...
12-MGD Masse 2, Von Roll, 1990
3-CLF Lac Noir, CECIL, 1980
3-CLF Rocher Noir, Montaz Mautino, 1979, formerly the oldest chairlift in the 3 Vallees from 2015 to 2021.
All replaced by the new Pointe de Masse gondola which leads directly to the top of the Masse and takes a much different route than did Masse 2 and Masse 1 which still remains today for reasons of which I'm uncertain of.
I thankfully rode them all in January 2020(January 11-12th 2020, 2 years ago today on the day I'm writing this, crikey!) along with Orelle's Trois Vallees Express, replaced by an awful D-Line in 2021 also as I mentioned earlier.
VR 102 is Von Roll. This dont look like a Von Roll
The grips used on this chairlift are based on VR102 grips. The chairlift itself was built by Doppelmayr.
Even still, this design by doppelmayr is very exquisite.
It has VR102 grips
@@CBF1 czcams.com/video/vZDiowTjr0Q/video.html
Von Roll VR 102 grips. Completely different
@@vonrollskyway1 The grips are called "VR102 Schwaiger" as they are modified grips.
02:17 - 02:25 Shit... Ich hasse es wenn die Bahn so Auf-und Ab schwingt... Und dann noch ein Sessellift..m
Der Bodenabstand wirkt bedrohlich klein.
Ich mag das Schaukeln aber 😂
War überhaubt nicht schlimm mann merkte es fast nicht
Oida eine Sesselbahn 😂
Aha ski Heil 🎿
Moin wollte Fragen von wem du die Aufnahmen hast und ob dieser vielleicht bei den Bergbahnen in St.Anton arbeitet
Mfg Christian
Hallo Christian, alle Aufnahmen sind (wie immer hier auf dem Kanal) von mir selbst erstellt.