10 Things You Never Knew About STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN
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The villain quotes Moby Dick with his dying breath, ambitiously cementing Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan as a cinematic space epic rightly revered for its passion, story arc, and brave sacrifice of one of the most famous characters in pop culture. Here we’ll take a look at 10 Things You Never Knew About Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
[1] 0:38 - It Was Made Without Gene Roddenberry
[2] 0:58 - Roddenberry’s Star Trek II
[3] 1:25 - Binge Watch
[4] 2:16 - Khan Almost Turned It Down
[5] 2:58 - It Was Almost A TV Movie
[6] 3:21 - Spock Must Not Die
[7] 5:25 - Theft Was A Problem
[8] 6:00 - The Triple Bridge
[9] 6:21 - Vulcan Tears
[10] 6:34 - He’s Dead, Jim
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Great Video!
To give Scotty the line " Sir, he's dead already ", was a clever move. Instead of the sometimes too emotional McCoy saying that Spock is dead, to have the pragmatic, no B.S. Scotty say the line, in the past tense, gave it a sense of absoluteness that made it all the more chilling.
Agree
As I understand Kelley thought it would have made people laugh or something inappropriate and ruined the mood and the movie so Scotty got to say it instead
May our heroes rest in peace
Health peace and long life to all y'all
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Scotty always came through in the biggest of ways. Too bad the two episodes where he was sort of the center were not that good. Lights of Zetar was actually one of the worst.
Not forgetting it was a repeated line in the of the 1987 Uk no.1 hit Star Trekkin , by The Firm lol
It is a little more real. And less rehearsed. Not as cliche.
"sir, he's dead already.." is wayyyy better, just the cruelness of the statement and the urgency of making Kirk understand that from that Scottish voice of heart, classic shit man
god there were so many good decisions made for this movie. Why couldn't they ever strike gold again????
tminus543
I think IV tvh was awesome and tuc was above average imho.
@iNFoPeace They're going to put commercials in it. Better to watch them on DVD or Blu-ray
@@enshk79
I thought Voyage Home was gold.
Yup, I remember people coming out of the theater in tears...me being one of them.
Kirk's voice crack during the eulogy and Scotty playing Amazing Grace...
I recall holding it together pretty well - though to be honest it may have been partially due to shock and disbelief - right up until those bagpipes started playing. That's when it hit me and I broke.
That was the single most powerful scene in Trek history. The scene of Spock's last words to Kirk were the best acted, most dramatic event in all of Star Trek as well. Nothing made today comes close to this movie. It's simply the greatest Star Trek film ever.
@@logandarklighter The bagpipes are always what make me lose it and cry without stopping at the end until the credits are over.
I always thought it ironic from a production standpoint that they played a traditional Christian song, especially since Nimoy was Jewish. Oh, well. Can't deny the emotional impact. Besides, Neil Diamond is Jewish and he sang Christmas songs. As for Spock's casket on Genesis...well, that's another story.
Luxxeon 3D especially, how Spock just logically and plainly asks what do you think of my solution. Referring to the Kobayashi Maru they were in.
Montalban not even nominated for Best Supporting...crime.
He alone is the most Iconic man in SciFi! The greatest performance in Star Trek ever.
Ricardo fans, on CZcams, look up, Baby It’s Cold Outside. From a 1940’s movie, Ricardo does a great performance singing this song with 3 other performers in this comedy, Neptune’s Daughter.
the next, if not even a worse crime, was hiring a white Englishman to play Khan. God awful movie.
@@spockmcoyissmart961 What white Englishman playing Khan? Montalban was pure Mexican!
Kim II Sung started the Korean War 1 of the new movies
This was the best of the whole movie series!
Bar none the best ANYTHING with the name Star Trek attached to it, PERIOD! I’d even go so far as to say it’s among the very best all time Sci fi films!
Love the hell out of this movie. Khan is my second favorite villain (after Hannibal Lecter). When he removes his headgear in front of Terrell and Chekov, that expression still gives me chills 36 years later.
no doubt. the little, almost imperceptible, flare of the eyes Montalban does when Chekov says "Khan..", love it.
flee4urlives
We still are wondering decades later why he never took off the glove ...!
@@flee4urlives Loved the scene, but it has always bugged me that the character of Chekov does not appear in that episode.
@@currentsitguy aye, bugged me too, but maybe Chekov saw him in the halls of the ship or something, lol. Sometimes one just has to suspend disbelief =/
@@flee4urlives Space seed was a season1 episode of TOS. Walter Koenig wasn't hired for the "Chekov" role until season 2. There's now associated lore that Chekov was a lower decks ensign that was assigned to engineering when Khan and his people took over the Enterprise.
Leonard Nimoy’s book I Am Not Spock is often cited as him distancing himself from the character as if he disliked the association, but it isn’t. Literally, he’s saying I am not Spock, I just play Spock, but I’m actually Leonard.
”I am Groot"
- Groot.
He later wrote a book called "I Am Spock" though.
Yes, "I Am Spock" was a great read.
@@cakestalker absolute greatness
He later said that book was a big mistake.
I always took her tears as more along the lines of Vulcans lying to themselves as being emotionless.
Even Sarek showed emotion with Spock’s mother in that TOS episode.
Omg... Made and released when I was born, took the world in a glory storm!
The best ship and Villain I have ever seen, the WRATH OF KAHN... a true work of ART, everyone should have seen!
I remember driving past a movie marquee in Milwaukee that (obviously) some teenagers had assaulted overnight. The marquee read "Star Trek II - The Wrath of Shit". I still chuckle about that 38 years later. Teenagers having fun that did no damage and hurt no one.
LOL I took my younger sibling my 12 year old brother to see it on opening day of TWOK IN JUNE 1882 and let me tell you my friend that Everyone yes everyone cheered and cried and applauded in all the right places in the giant theatre! :D
They threatened Nimoy's daughter's life?! Fans sicken me some times.
Just look at all the jerks hating Discovery.....dicks
We're right to hate STD. But it would be TERRIBLY wrong to actually threaten violence to anyone over it. Just don't watch it. Don't consider it canon (because there's no way it can be), heap all the rightly deserved derision on the writing, lack of respect for design and continuity. But never EVER hate on the actors or directors for just doing their job. (cause despite the terrible concepts and writing, there are some good actual performances). Just do that, wash your hands of the mess and move along and let Star Trek rest in peace. Cause frankly at this point - the franchise is dead, Jim.
@@logandarklightersee above.....
Discovery is utter SHIT. But I wouldn't send death threats to the cast. It's not their fault they were given such shitty roles.
@@logandarklighter DSC is good, quite a lot I enjoyed about it. Some things I didnt love.
It is absolutely canon, as canon as anything can be considering how.... inconsistent the entire franchise has been.
How exactly would you make a show fit even TOS when TOS completely lacks its own internal continuity?
I really wish the part explaining Saavik being 1/2 Romulan made the directors cut, as well as several other deleted scenes.
It was in the book
Vulcans and Romulans are the same people so 1/2 Romulan means nothing. She had not been raised with the Vulcan disciplines until she was older.
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I think it would have been better to say she was half Human and Vulcan.
That more logically explains her look, and behaviour. This reason could be used to say why Spock was tutoring her. To help her deal with her Human and Vulcan nature, while being a Starfleet officer. Who better than Spock to help her?
It (half romulan line) was in some of the first week prints, but redacted in fresh cans. I saw it. However making her like Spock as half human was cliché. Originally in WNMHGB Spock's heritage was a Mingo (Daniel Boone 1964) copy.
Vulcan is primarily "Clears" from Scientology anyway. There was so much Scientology in Star Trek, I wonder if Roddenberry or Coon may not have been Dianetics (1950 fad) apostles in the 60s.
The best film. The best uniform, and acting!
Best film....after First Contact.
I always found this to be a bulky uniform. Can you imagine younger Kirk and crew wearing these heavy, hot jackets and turtlenecks, in any of the original TV show adventures??
I wont call it the best uniform. The the tv series was the best
@@acerjuglans383 It was the best for the older actors in the movies, but it made sense they went back to a more… sporty design in TNG.
TheSorrel
I think landing parties had a special uniform. I bet policy was shifting in late 23rd centuries to keep the Captain on the bridge.
The "He's Dead Already" Line from Scotty was great. First I heard original idea was Bones to say something.
I also had not heard of this, yet having read so much about the generousness of DeForrest Kelley it makes sense. The impact of those words spoken by Scotty hit hard.
Cool! Thought I’d point out that the whole idea of the weird training intro showing Spock looking dead, (followed by Kirk saying later “aren’t you dead?”) was a script revision to throw off the people who already thought he would die. When he ultimately did, it was reasoned that some of those people wouldn’t see it coming, or at least had just watched the whole movie anyway...
Awesome!
That training sequence was put in EXACTLY for the reason you said. And pretty much succeeded. Fans who went to the first showings were thinking "Oh! So THAT's what the rumors were all about. Someone saw this scene and misinterpreted what was going on. He's not going to die at all!" And Kirk's "Aren't you dead?" Line was seen as a further fun little jab at a meta joke.
And then when it really DID happen... And happened the way it did - totally organic to the plot and you could see Spock's logic kicking in at his bridge station and realizing there was only one way to save the ship... Even though you're going... "Oh no... no no no... Don't do this Spock!" You somehow know, at the same time, that it makes sense.
And anyone who says Shatner can't act just needs to watch his haunted 1000 yard stare into nothing as he's slumped down next to the chamber after his best friend has died.
That scene and the funeral afterward hits HARD. But it hits RIGHT.
Yep, it got me and my teenage friends. Then the ending killed us. We walked out to the car in absolute silence as if one of us had died. A sea of silent people like leaving a funeral. Then the car radio blasted and we talked nonstop forever.
Yes this is the best Star Trek film ever.
Great review of a great film!!! Love Wrath of Khan and Space Seed episode.Live Long and Prosper.
No disrespect to Gene, but if his idea had gone through, it would have likely killed Star Trek.
Couldn't be any worse than what Lucas had planned.
GPD W ....i just said the same thing. Was he that out of sync with star trek that he pitched the same idea of klingons going back in time to save Kennedy for every movie???...he was going senile. Im glad he got it together for TNG!!!
agreed
Yeah his idea sounded more TOS/episode like vs feature film. I love the time travel sequences in TOS and I enjoyed Star Trek IV for sure. Time travel is one of those things that if you screw it up, it will wreck everything. Also, it might end the universe. o.O
As long as there's conflict, it can be made into good drama. In the right hands, any idea will fly.
Remember when Star Trek was all about character development? It had real emotion and made you think.
Yes, I remember.
Yes
Not really. It's been so long I think I've forgotten.
It still makes you think. You think why am I watching this crap, or, how does this drivel get made.
I have said this before and I will say it again. Master and Commander is one of the best Star Trek movies since Wrath of Kahn.
This movie's held up even better than Star Wars. I count it as one of the best sci-fi films to date.
Always wished they would have shown Khan reacting to seeing the Enterprise warp safely away. Just a split second jaw dropping, eye-popping, gasp, as he's realizing he has failed completely, would have done it. Much more satisfying to me than having Khan possibility die thinking he'd won.
This is my absolute favorite Star Trek movie. Great acting and action.
One of my favorite movies of all time.
It took years but the official Star Trek magazine finally said that the last thing Khan sees is the Enterprise escaping and he yells "NO ! " & then the Reliant explodes & the Enterprise escapes.
It was seen in the theaters on opening day & I and my friend saw it in Sacramento & for some reason they cut it out of the movie and it is not in any version available for home use.
I think it was a huge mistake.
And people were sobbing when Spock died and were in shock.
Job well done. Made me want to go dig out my copy and rewatch it. :)
It’s a shame that Nimoy got harassed like that in real life, being called Spock all the time by fans. The same thing happened with Tom Baker when fans would always approach him calling him the Doctor. It got so bad he went into seclusion.
Nimoy
Curtis Parker Just saw that. Fixed. Thanks.
Gary Burghoff said he experienced the same thing. "No one ever called me Gary. Strangers and acquaintances would call me 'Radar' which was bad, but then even old friends started calling me that."
I really don't understand the distain for Star Trek 1, It was a great film.
I actually agree with you, and I'm a teen.
As as young child I thought to was boring (blame Star Wars for that) but as I got older I had better appreciation for the movie.
I would say good but not great very good but not quite great
It’s a great movie but kind of slow...
It's much more cerebral then many others in Star Trek, and certainly compared to Star Wars, which put many people off I guess.
Like others here, I developed new appreciation for it in my adult years. Flawed as it is, the ending in particular, and the questions it generates, are really superb from that film.
In fact the joining of VGer with Decker/Ilia may be the most profound and wonderful moment in the entire Star Trek universe to date.
Death threats? Obviously those fans didn't know the meaning of Star Trek.
Probably they were cross-over Star Wars fans. You cannot serve two masters.
I'm actually Star Trek and Star Wars fan, but yeah, I agree. Lol.
Yeah, pretty stinky way to show your appreciation 🙄
I was with friends trying and not succeeding very well to hide from them that I was openly weeping. I did not even “hear” the hints that Spock would return. I thought it was over. Spock was kind of a father figure to me, and I was devastated. About a month later I wrote to Nimoy, telling him how much the character had meant to me, thanking him for bringing him to life, and telling him that, if Spock had to die, I could not imagine a “truer” way for him to go. It was exactly what the character would have done in that circumstance: sacrificed himself for his lifelong friends and for his “children” calmly, without hesitation. It was not just “logical” as he said but loving and so the ultimate apotheosis of Spock’s character arc. This was the most perfect of all the ST movies on every count. I am glad the franchise has continued, but except for the delightful ST 4, none of the other movies have come close. :).
I remember Ricardo Montalban’s interview on television (Entertainment Tonight, I think). He was reluctant at first. But he saw the episode Space Seed four times and decided to reprise the role. To prepare for the role, Montalban did pushups everyday to build up his chest. He looked great in Star Trek 2 The Wrath Of Khan. Better than he looked in Space Seed.
Star Trek 2 : The Wrath Of Khan was my introduction to the music of James Horner. I assumed that Jerry Goldsmith passed this assignment to Horner. But I may be wrong. Horner’s score was also made this film great.
The Genesis scene was not the First full c CGI scene in cinema history. But it was the most believable and realistic CGI seen to date
Did you hear the qualifiers? "Is often credited as..." and "at least in terms of fractal based CGI."
@@movieweb Does anyone know what really was the first movie CGI scene? Does the Death Star graphics from the pre-battle briefing in Star Wars count?
@@mattbartley2843 if i'm not mistaken, that distinction goes to 'westworld.' the concept of CGI goes back to the 60's, i believe.
The best Star Trek film I ever seen! I watched it at driving.
Ahhhhhhh.....such a great film
Before watching this I knew about a few of these facts. I appreciate the detail you broadcast. I now have a fuller understanding about one of my favorite movies. Thanks!
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I remember seeing this at the pictures and it didn't affect me then as to me (at that time) Star Trek was just a tv programme but after I really got into it at the age of 17, Spock's death scene, the Enterprise 'dying' and Captain Kirk dying (on Generations) makes me cry every time and I'm now almost 49
Certainly the best Star Trek film. Montalban puts in an exemplary performance.
Oddly, I regard it as having the best ship combat scenes still, also.
You over simplified Spock's death. You also forgot that they reshot the beginning to have Spock pretended die and everyone think he died for real. So when the opening sequence is over people thought oh that's why people said Spock died. And that way the ending is still a shock
He also doesn't mention the fact that Saavik's Romulan half was actually mentioned in the script WRITTEN BY Nick Meyer that actually DID have the subtitle The Undiscovered Country. The title wasn't just a idea and the Romulan element wasn't just a deleted scene. Rather he splits up these facts making these facts more complicated than it is.
cuttersboi08 There were so many scripts/titles at so many different points that finalizing it for filming was once described as like solving a Rubik's Cube.
Interesting point - Valeris role as the traitor in The Undiscovered Country was originally going to be SAAVIK. Rewatch the movie and imagine Saavik in that role - and remember that she's half Romulan. It WORKS and I have no idea why they didn't keep that idea.
One of the main reasons why Kirstie Alley wouldn't do TSFS is because they wanted to severely cut her salary. From what I understand Meyer asked for her to come back as Saavik for TUC but apparently there was a problem with her being available time-wise.
Kirstie Alley got in an inside joke in the sequel "Look Who's Talking Too," when her character took a job as one of Santa's elves in a mall to get extra Christmas money. One bratty kid blurted out, on seeing her ears, "Are you really an elf?" Kirstey shot back, "No, I'm a Vulcan."
Of the Star Trek (Classic) movies, this was the best.
The Reliant was originally going to be another Constitution class. But it was feared people wouldn't be able to tell the two ships apart, so the Miranda class was born. The original movie poster contains an easter egg to this as it shows a constitution class attacking the Regula 1 space station, something that makes no sense in the final movie as the only connie is the Enterprise.
Something is not quite right. Saw Montelbahn in an iterview saying he wanted to play that so bad he would have for free because was hard finding work after being typecast as Mr Roark!
You've got to hand it to this movie.The creative brilliance of the script.This is one of the very few if not the only movie in Hollywood history that was able to maintain such a level of excitement,suspense and tension in a film where the protagonist and antagonist never physically meet.
Seeing this in the theater back in 1982 as a kid packed such an emotional wallop that I didn't realize until rewatching it years later that Kirk and Khan's exchanges were always on video monitors,with their ships being the physical arms and their's being a strategic battle of experience and wit.
Won't lie. Totally thought a reference to the great chest plate debate was going to get thrown in there somewhere.
It's amazing how many people are still convinced that wasn't his real chest.
Golden Knight
Should be a compliment to Ricardo that he was so good that he could only be matched by a forgery.
@@2bituser569 Even back in "Space Seed" you could tell that guy had some pecs on him.
Golden Knight
I agree. They showed it too.
Definitely good idea to give it to Scotty that line. The way Scotty says it conveys no hope.
You got me on one of them: I didn't know it was going to be a TV movie at one point.
Certainly the best Star Trek movie made with the original cast--and arguably the best death scene in movie history. If there's a better death scene, I wouldn't know what it is.
And then they undid it all with the next two movies. It might as well have never been made.
Knan never knew Pavel Chekhov from the demon seep episode
Charles Crawford didn’t he hack into the Enterprise computer when he was in sickbay? Maybe he read the bridge officer personnel files. I dunno.
Checkov isn't actually seen on screen during Space Seed (S1E22), which is set on Stardate 3141, about seven and a half months before Checkov's first (chronologically aired) appearance in Amok Time (S2E01), which is set on Stardate 3372, however, Checkov does appear in Cat's Paw, which whilst aired as S2E07 is set on Stardate 3018, meaning he was probably on board during the time Khan was there.
Here's a blooper you might not be aware of. Kahn recognized Checkov in the early part of the movie, but the Checkov character was not in Space Seed. He wasn't in the entire 1st season!
That has been explained in various ways through books, comics, background material, etc. Checkov was a crew member on the Enterprise on the night shift and ran into Khan that way. I'm not saying that satisfies all fans, but I'll take it as a reasonable explanation.
@@GoGreen1977 The comedic explanation I like is that, while aboard the Enterprise, Khan had a case of Montezuma's revenge and while rushing to the latrine he ran into Chekov causing Khan to soil himself. He looks angrily at Chekov and says "I'll never forget your face!"
Revenge of the Jedi was the second title of episode 6 the first title was Return of the Jedi but out of pressure of his fellow producers running brace wish it to Revenge then the last minute switch it back to return. Unfortunately Revenge was announced first which cause them to change revenge of Khan to Wrath of Khan. There was no Vengeance of Khan
That's technically correct about Star Wars but moreover it's very nitpick-y. (The title first released to the public was "Revenge of the Jedi.") As for whether "The Vengeance of Khan" was ever a title for Star Trek II? The LIBRARY OF CONGRESS seems to disagree with you. www.loc.gov/item/jots.200025454/
But in 2005 we had "The revenge of the Sith" 😉
Wrath was better anyway. And Ricardo Montalbahn Delivered!
I was 20 years old back in 1979 and was really looking forward to Star Trek The Motion Picture. I was disappointed not only with how stiff the actors were in their old characters but also with the movie basically being a remake of The Changeling episode from Season 2 and the original theme song was not used. The first two things I noticed when going to see The Wrath Of Kahn were the original opening chords from the TV series at the beginning and that the actors were back in proper character. Back to the basics. Choosing Khan as the villain for the movie was a stroke of genius. And over the years, like a lot of Trek fans, I've come to appreciate what a good film Star Trek The Motion Picture really is and what a terrific soundtrack it has.
I salute you. I actually did not know most of those!
The Mutara Nebula battle was superbly done , still an awesome scene today !
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The only thing I didn’t know was McCoy’s line given to Scotty. I got to watch this on my birthday with most of the ILM crew at the Corte Madera Theater - what a thrill!
I Remember being in school when this movie came out and upon seeing it declared it my favorite movie ever. What happened next was a series of ass kickings and me branded a nerd for the next few years. And just like my superhero comics and now it’s cool.
I would've LOVED to see that Version of Star Trek II.
Montalban did get his wish after STWOK, he was the villain in the 1988 Comedy film The Naked Gun.
And Peter Preston saved the ship. Scotty mentions that he stayed at his post when the trainees ran, and there is a very brief clip showing him climbing up a ladder while everyone else is running the other way for breather masks. I've read (but can't confirm) it was Peter who got poert back online and saved the ship as a result. Fan story or fact? I'd love to know if it's verifiable.
Chip and Dale dancers played Khans crew in the movie
CHIPPENDALE not """"Chip & Dale"
alvins weird cousins
or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_%27n%27_Dale
which was always odd to me...I thought Kahn crew looked about the same age as him in space seed?
Wow that Rescue Rangers cartoon sure got dark...
I actually did not know any of the things on your list-good job!
Surprisingly, I only knew half of them! The rest were a pleasant surprise!
The best of the Trek films. The good things about this film was that you really didn't need to be familiar with the Star Trek episode it spawned from to enjoy it. I remember Ricardo Mantalban once saying that one of the reasons he was reluctant to do it was because he didn't think he was in it very much, and then his agent pointed out that many of the scenes he wasn't in his character was mentioned or was the cause of, giving the illusion that he was in it much more than he was.
Did you know the actors who played as Khan's men were all Chippendale dancers?
Yes, I had read it.
But not all of them.
I think Judson Scott and Laura Banks (Joachim and the navigator) were commons actors
The Wrath of Khan is and will always be the best trek movie to me. It represents what Star Trek is all about.
Romuans are an offshoot of the Vulcan lineage, remember? Thus, being half Romulan is *not* a satisfying explanation for Saavik's Vulcan tears.
Romulans are not known for repressing or controlling their emotions. They haven't practiced emotional control for eons. The Vulcan culture is different from that of the Romulans.
But they rejected Surak and his logical philosophy and immigrated to Romulus to form their own society based on "the old ways." Did they mention which race was father or mother?
I swear to GOD I heard "The biography of DeForest GUMP"! But my ears were being stupid. Well done. Carry on! :)
You got one wrong right out the door. Gene Roddenberry was still part of Star Trek 2 but he was reduced down to the same position he was in the Animated Series... executive consultant. This means he still has the final say of whether or not the script fits the Star Trek universe.
He wrote letters expressing his displeasure, etc. Herve did not like Roddenberry, Nicholas Meyer clashed with Roddenberry, these facts are well documented in dozens of interviews, Q&As, and well-researched articles. Walter Koenig said at the time that Roddenberry was not involved. The producer credit he was given on the film was done as a courtesy. He did not, by all accounts, have "final say" over anything creatively with this movie. If you have information to the contrary, please cite your sources!
Another thing not many people realise is that it's the opening film of a trilogy, like the Matrix and Pirates of the Caribbean the first film did so well they made the following films continue the story into a trilogy. Star Trek 3 and 4 are are all written as a continuation of the previous film whereas every other Star Trek film is written as standalone (and in some cases they even ignore the existence of previous films, I.E 6 ignoring 5).
Star Trek II was another movie that was saved in the edit. Having Spock killed 1/3 of the way in the movie would have detracted from the climax. Placing his death after the battle in the Mutara Nebula was the right narrative device since it placed all of the major narrative events together creating a more monumental climax. You had the euphoria of the escape, and then you see Spock's empty chair. Then you realize the true cost of the battle.
The best of the films. I love them all, but this one has it all. Good character moments, good pacing, good acting, beautiful shots of the Enterprise..she never looked so better..best villian with a good revenge motivation..montalbans acting is so so good, as is everyone elses.
I heard there is an extended copy of khan that features much more than what we saw, such as khans baby. Way too much was cut from this film. The short exchange about saavik being half vulcan, romulan shouldve been left in for sure.
Its a shame that most treks after this always try to recapture this magic, especially with the villian seeking revenge angle. They just cant compare. VI comes a close second to being the best though. The next gen films sucked except first contact. The reboots is a good new spin on these iconic cast except ID. If they hadnt copied the death scene from this film it wouldve been a little better
Two things. The reason Harve Bennett was brought onboard was, in fact, that it was to be a TV Movie. Also, you imply the switch to Theatrical release was during pre-production, but in fact this happened about a 3rd of the way into shooting. The explains some "alternate" takes on the bonus features and how ABC aired it on TV.
Star treks finest moment, period!
For a series that had no budget the list of great guest star performances from star trek is mind boggling
Amen to that. As an aside and for a contrast, by the 3rd season of the original Perry Mason tv show, EVERYONE wanted to be on the show and most of them wanted to play the murderer.
Montaban will always be my Khan forget that other movie into darkness..
One that no one seems to realize: Ceti Alpha would be the brightest star in the constellation "Cetus," also known as the Whale.
Never noticed that before
Wow, good catch.
Excellent choices to have Spock die at the end and Scotty to deliver his line.
Thank you for sharing.
Nickolas Meyer initially had the screen between Kirk and Spock as translucent, not transparent at Spock's death. He felt a silhouette of Spock would be very emotional as he died and Kirk couldn't get to him.
William Shatner said that it should be transparent instead. That way the audience could see the faces and emotions of both actors and it would have a bigger impact. So they filmed it. Afterwards, Meyer said that was a much better idea than his and kept it in the film.
He was right.
Nimoy said he’d never play Spock again, but he went on and did the next four movies, a two part episode in TNG, and two of the Kelvin timeline movies before he died
Wow. After all the videos, actually 3 or 4 things I didn’t know.
This is the first "10 things you never knew" video where there were actually a couple things I didn't know.
You missed the fact that originally it was Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan with the II added later.
Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan 1982 is the Best Star Trek movie ever! I like this movie so much!
If you watch the movie after chekov and his captain beam down to the surface and go into the remains of the shelter of "castaways", you would see that one of the books on the bookshelf is "MOBY DICK" and from its appearance, it was read quite often.
Madalyn LaRue was supposed to replay the role of Lt. MacGyver. But she was suffering from MS and confined to a wheel chair. Which was supposed to be one of the plot points in the story.
The Studio Suits had a hissy fit! "A Disabled co-star!?" Clutched their pearls and swooned.
This is one case where producers got it right without Gene. Unlike recent Star Trek "reboots" and alternate timelines, this version is still canon while carefully and wisely diverting from Roddenberry's original vision for the lore. It manages to stay within the Star Trek guidelines that fans adore and still appeal to non-trek fans with great action and a wonderful story. I really wish the Star Trek people creating the shows and movies today were clever enough to reboot the franchise without totally destroying the lore and rich history of TOS and TNG.
Cool stuff think the 2nd is the best one
This was never considered as a TV movie. The first movie originally was going to be a TV movie.
Great video!
ugh im happy they got roddenberry out of the decision making , he was back for TNG seasons 1 & 2 but after he left actively meddling it got so much better
Battle scenes ,Roddenberry did not like it, it was too violent.
May well be my favorite movie of all time
I tried to wipe away my tears surreptitiously, not wanting my friends to know I was crying during Spock's death scene.
At 6:03, the woman on the floor at the camera? Catherine Coulson (Twin Peaks Log Lady) --- the first woman Assistant Camera on a major Hollywood film.
That's amazing!
If you look at the clip from the Zapruder film at about 1:07, you can see the frames that disprove the Warren Commission’s number and/or sequence of shots fired by “lone gunman” Oswald. According to their “single-bullet theory” the same shot that passed through JFK also hit Governor Connally, shattering his wrist (as well as other injuries). At this point in the film, Pres. Kennedy has already been hit, therefore Connally should be as well, yet the Governor is still holding his Stetson hat in his right hand.
... And i'm a big enough Trekkie/nerd that I already knew a bunch of these...
WIth a few tweaks to the script and a little less scene hogging by Shatner, this should have been an Oscar contender with EASE
It should also have been the first of the Star Trek cinema series.
Star Trek 2 ;The Wrath of Khan is great movie ,And Star Trek Into Darkness. is reboot knock off ,Yeah can say this is one all time favourite. movies of all time ! I would put next to the Empire Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost Ark that are in my top section of all time great movies .
13. Many shots of the Enterprise were recycled from the first movie.
Good to see the only parts of tmp were reused
Space seed , wrath of khan and search for spock IS STAR TREK
I watched it again today. So awesome
Spock really did die in ST 2, but he was buried on the Genesis planet created out of “proto-matter” and thus capable of regenerating a clone of his body. Meanwhile, Spock had transferred his essence (his “soul”) to McCoy at the moment of death, driving McCoy to track down the clone and transfer Spock’s essence into the clone, the subject of ST 3. At the end of ST 3, and going into ST 4, Spock is good as new (except for “taking too much LDS in the sixties”).
Actually It was Director Nicholas Myer who watched all 79 episodes of the original series and chose "space seed" as a catalyst for the second sequel