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=== Timestamps ===
0:00 Intro
1:50 Theory behind skills
4:39 Stage 1
9:28 Stage 2
13:33 Stage 3
15:45 Stage 4
16:37 Putting it all together
=== About Dr Justin Sung ===
Dr. Justin Sung is a world-renowned expert in self-regulated learning, certified teacher, research author, and former medical doctor. He has guest lectured on learning skills at Monash University for Master’s and PhD students in Education and Medicine. Over the past decade, he has empowered tens of thousands of learners worldwide to dramatically improve their academic performance, learning efficiency, and motivation.
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can you create a video about how to deal with a learning debt
The link seems ro have issues. I needed to use a vpn to get it to work.
Loved the nunchucks going to apply this to study and gaming, thanks.
Can I pay for individual one-on-one coaching? Specifically I need your help learning SQL. I've been studying for several months and still stuck.
I like your question. I have the same. Did you get a response? Please let me know and looking for some individual coaching and more educational purposes for better results. Thanks
1. Relevance: Learn the scope of the Skill
2. Awareness: identify and fix mistakes
3. Iteration: get consistent, easier, faster execution
4. Lifelong: practice to keep it a habit
Most people like to complicate things 17 min of nonsense. Of course I appreciate you efforts of course.
here in 10 seconds:
1- Figure out what's important in the skill you're trying to learn.
2- Practice it, a lot.
3- Learn from your mistakes.
3- Keep at it until it becomes second nature.
Yes I believe the same .. like content he puts in is really great but instead of being to the point he beats around the bushes , almost in all of his videos
Just take your math homework in high school as an example. You should have done 10-30 problems a day and those problems should have been reinforcing the techniques you've learned in trailing weeks/months so you reinforce concepts over an extended period of time with high iteration
This might be because you’re not the target audience, I agree with you but then realized others found the video extremely helpful. Important to remember some people need further elaboration than others I suppose.
4 is the most important. Honestly the power of habit book or atomic habits all boil down to start a habit even for 10 min and do it everyday for a month. If you have trouble use pomodor technique, medication, ect. But the important thing is habit
@@khaledsrrr longer videos have more monetary value, as simple as that. And Justin is pretty incompetent too.
Justin is looking cool.
Nice nunchaku moves💥
😂😂
I use to watch a lot of your videos passively and because I couldn't understand much of what you're saying and I mistook that you were just blabbering technical nonsense, I tagged you unhelpful and unsubscribed. But after working on my attention span and actually listening on what you're saying, I eventually realized - you are a gem! So on point, so technical and scientific but simplified and made total sense. Thank you for your service.
Are we just gonna skip out on this man whiping out some bruce lee type of shit with those nunchucks just to teach us how to learn!? That's fucking epic!
@@nikolanedeljkovic5916 he made the video just to show off his nunchuck skills
Video 2 of asking justin to do a video on procedural subjects such as maths and how to make mindmaps for them
Yaaa,even I was about to type it...😅😅
Yeeess, I'm really needing more videos focusing on studying for math.
Yesss
Math is easy bro, go learn how to tie your shoes blazingly fast
Just kidding
There are no hacks for procedural skills. You simply have to practise them at the end of the day. No amount of understanding what calculus does conceptually is going to have you blazing through equations. Understanding the concepts can help motivate you and give important context to what you're doing so that it sticks better, but yeah, go find a workbook and practise.
Taken directly from his own website: "Maths is a partial fit. Our techniques will help you answer the most challenging questions since you will develop a strong conceptual understanding of the topic, however, it won't help you with the procedural aspects of doing calculations. It will certainly help you, but not as much as compared to sciences or English."
Also from his site: "Our programs are suitable for any subjects with reasonable declarative knowledge requirements.
Declarative knowledge is about knowing "what," encompassing facts and information. For example, understanding the laws of thermodynamics, the nuances of complex historical events, or simple facts like knowing that Paris is the capital of France.
Procedural knowledge, on the other hand, focuses on knowing "how" to perform tasks, like riding a bicycle or baking a cake. Declarative knowledge deals with information, while procedural knowledge involves practical skills and actions."
And now you have important context for why degrees such as maths, engineering and physics are considered the most intellectually challenging. It's because there is just no way around the fact that you have to work hard. You can't mnemonic, mindmap, or memory palace your way into being able to code a scientific calculator from scratch.
Finding your channel was a blessing! Thanks for your dedication and contribution!
By "YouSum Live"
00:00:00 Understanding the stages of learning complex skills
00:00:09 Importance of aligning actions with the right stage
00:00:39 Rail framework enhances skill mastery and efficiency
00:02:00 Latent learning period in acquiring complex skills
00:03:21 Significance of feedback in skill acquisition
00:04:01 Key question for effective learning: "Am I moving right?"
00:05:47 Relevance stage: Understanding what is essential for learning
00:07:02 Actions for progressing through the relevance stage
00:10:00 Awareness stage: Learning from mistakes and reflection
00:10:16 Overcoming mistakes crucial for skill acquisition
00:12:37 Iteration stage: Consistency and effort in skill learning
00:14:55 Varied practice and adjustment for quicker progress
00:16:00 Lifelong stage: Maintaining and refining acquired skills
By "YouSum Live"
Your hardwork of studying research papers and bringing valuable points helped many of us thank you sir❤
This is an awesome framework and just what I’ve needed for the past few years to help me orient myself w re to the phases of learning and navigate my way through. Thank you for sharing consistently w us. This is useful.
Dr Sung,
Glad to see you posting again!
Would you please consider doing a Study With Me style video for procedural subjects or a technical skill like writing code using these principles?
Outstanding video! I took three pages of notes from this! Keep it up, Justin!
Thank you for the RAIL system. I had encountered the four stages of competence before this video but like you said it doesn't tell how to progress to the next stage, RAIL does and I immediately see how I apply to even learning how to draw.
Reflecting on this video, I see one big issue is myself and others don't track, reflect, or evaluate what we are doing. And thus it is to be discouraged by errors and plateaus.
Thank you Dr. Justin for making this videos, can you kindly make a hands-on video specifically on studying for maths, engineering and calculations related courses! 😢
Man Ik maybe it’s not super obvious (I didn’t buy the course btw) but it’s the same principles. Maybe instead of him telling you what to do (lower orders of thinking) you should engage in higher order thinking about this problem in itself. Btw you should also check out other frameworks about learning. Metacognition is one of the most valuable skills one can learn
A hands on approach to math would be the Math U See courses or the algebra app by Borenson Math.
Fantastic video. This makes a lot of sense and applies to everything that I’ve read and seen in my life. This is motivating to see you talk about this especially with your example of nunchucks.
I'm already seeing people attributing your mindmap to your name in youtube. Not for long this thoughtful and practical approach in learning skills (RAIL framework) would also be attributed to your name Justin. Thank you for transforming this theoretical knowledge into a practical checklist that can easily applied universally. You're going places. All the best!
Ps: love the new hairstyle
You are amazing continue doing well. I learnt a lot in those 17 mins and you solved something I have been struggling with for the past years.
Great video! One complement in the future could be how to deal with the biggest pitfalls in each stage.
I struggle a lot getting demotivated with my mistakes on stage 2.
Good video. Funnily enough, I related it to Mazlow's hierarchy of competence a minute before you mentioned it. (Mr. Hoorn here, btw.)
Another connection I made was to van Merriënboer et al. their "Ten Steps to Complex Learning" or "4 Component Instructional Design". Particularly with regards to doing a skill decomposition (by analyzing experts, the theory, etc.) in order to build a map for how best to learn a complex skill, reducing complexity as much as possible while still remaining true to the authentic learning task; i.e., don't learn certain skills in isolation (drill) unless the easiest version of a task still causes cognitive overload. Because if you learn in isolation too much, your brain misses on the nuances of application in harmony (element interactivity). Related to the concept of "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts". You can master each skill composite individually but still fail epically at combining them into one activity, which is often required.
You are amazing! I love your content and I hope you launch a book soon. Hugs from Brazil.
Seconding that
Thank you for this well-informed and profound video of yours! For everyone reading this comment, please share it with your friends, colleagues, and anyone you know. They will find it useful one day.
You are GOAT man, Great information!
I was using this technique partially and having random failure and success in the past without knowing why. So I was skipping the first stage and start right from part 2-3, which is practice and making lots of mistakes and go back and review and make lots of mistakes and I was aimless when it comes to very complex skills.
Relevance - List down all the relevant concepts and make, so we know the direction and know what we don’t know and which to learn
Awareness - experiment by performing the skills, lots of mistakes will be made here, so review those mistakes and try to perform it consistently better and better via feedback
Iterations - at this point we probably know the in and outs and can perform correctly sometimes but still might miss something when we slipped, so just keep repeat practice and once consistent, use varied practice and adjust again until you can do it at any kind of condition consistently.
Lifelong - Keep repeating the practice until we can perform unconsciously
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Video 2 asking Justin to do a video on procedural subjects such as maths and how to create mindmaps for them
for maths you need to go with understanding not mindmaps ... understanding is imp first later anything .... understanding means you apply to use information in real life apply , analyse with other things , judge it its best or not etc
its a flow .... learning is process not a method ... if you put single method than its called memorising
@@phanikatam4048u can build understanding with mindmaps. You cover the high level concepts then do practice problems
Kolb's experiential learning cycle is a four-stage cycle that describes how we learn through experience. The four stages are concrete experience, reflective observation, abstract conceptualization, and active experimentation.
- In the concrete experience stage, you learn by doing something new. This could involve trying a new question type in math, for example.
- In the reflective observation stage, you reflect on what you did. This is important because simply doing questions isn't enough to learn from them. You need to think about why you got the answer right or wrong, and what you could have done differently.
-In the abstract conceptualization stage, you take what you learned from your experience and turn it into a general principle. This could involve coming up with a new way to approach a problem in math.
- In the active experimentation stage, you take the general principle that you developed and test it out in a new situation. This could involve trying a new approach to a different question in math.
The Kolb cycle is a powerful tool that can be used to learn anything, not just math. It is important to go through all four stages of the cycle in order to learn effectively.
Mathematics are very easy. I past my end of high school exam. I believe it’s called SAT. And I had 16/20 in mathematics. I believe it’s equal to 3.2 GPA in mathematics.
All you had to do it’s all you always did in class wich is theory: the 1st part lesson of the chapter then you exercise yourself till you succeed.
But before exercising, you fully understand with the examples, do them if you have to but you have to understand. You can even understand with an exercise. You do the exercise with the lesson to understand what you are doing.
In class we do not have much time so to excelle in math you had to exercise and understand the lesson at home. Since you have all the time you want keep exercising to excel in that particular part of the chapter. The key is the continually exercise, at list one exercise a day. And you review each time before you exercise the lesson.
Then you do the same for the next parts of the chapter and even tho you moved to the next parts of the chapter, you keep on exercising on the previous parts (even tho is less often)
Then at the end you evaluate yourself and review what you failed
Now you may not be in class so you won’t have the subject presented as chapters but learn little by little till you fully understand and know the subject
@@ibyou5062 That's great, but there's a lot more to mathematics than what you learn in high school. Maths is definitely not easy. Also there are enough other subjects where learning the theory is just one part and actually applying it is a completely different thing.
Justin great video. I would really appreciate a video on studying history and language learning from your perspective. I’m a first year uni student getting good results but I’m frustrated by the things that are holding me back from really excellent learning. My study techniques are good, but found myself stressed to the max towards the end of the semester, and I know I could have done better.
there is too much conflicting information about language learning. Old School is not effective but we have not made the conceptual leap from rote learning and book learning to digital multimedia and AI creating a learning environment that is 'like' immersion but geared to adult cognition
WOW THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! for posting : )!
You are goals, my friend.
This makes learning so much fun thank you so much
Video 2 ask Justin video to do on procedural subjects such as maths and how to mind map for them
yes
@@AdityaR-js3sy Hii. I think for maths, maybe mind map the theory/definitions so you understand what they mean. For problem solving I think this video is great since problem solving is a skill.
i guess for procedural learning you must mix the usage of mind maps and just practice the procedure. E.g.: mind maps for the conceptual part and practice papers to p. the technique
Kolb's experiential learning cycle is a four-stage cycle that describes how we learn through experience. The four stages are concrete experience, reflective observation, abstract conceptualization, and active experimentation.
- In the concrete experience stage, you learn by doing something new. This could involve trying a new question type in math, for example.
- In the reflective observation stage, you reflect on what you did. This is important because simply doing questions isn't enough to learn from them. You need to think about why you got the answer right or wrong, and what you could have done differently.
-In the abstract conceptualization stage, you take what you learned from your experience and turn it into a general principle. This could involve coming up with a new way to approach a problem in math.
- In the active experimentation stage, you take the general principle that you developed and test it out in a new situation. This could involve trying a new approach to a different question in math.
The Kolb cycle is a powerful tool that can be used to learn anything, not just math. It is important to go through all four stages of the cycle in order to learn effectively.
I'm at the iteration phase of learning higher order thinking. Yay! 🥳
Hey, so i understand the skill, but when i apply it, i become overwhelm, lost and just unable to read and move on. It's just that there is so much to cover that it feels as if I'm just touching the surface with priming and if i have to comeback ,I'll be redoing it again. I see no progress and eventually, i am not able to finish anything. Could you guide a bit?
@@jishajain7341 It is easy for me to say many things behind a screen, but in reality I do not know what you are struggling with and therefore it is going to be tough to give you advice. But anyways I'll give it a shot.
1. Priming is about giving your brain some rough idea how the topics that you're going to learn is structured and why it all matters. In this stage you don't want to get a comprehensive understanding with details but rather get a rough idea of the big picture.
2. Priming is hard at first. You need to get used to it before you see any type of result.
3. If you are inexperienced, start by asking yourself, "how is topic x connected to topic y, what are their similarities and differences ?" It might feel useless, but do it nonetheless. It is good to evaluate, organise, chunk etc. but do it when you have mastered relational thinking.
4. Do not try to read and understand everything, but spend more time thinking about how the big concepts are related. Read with the intention of relating, not trying to remember details.
5. After the priming is done, you can go a bit deeper. You still want to continue to relate everything to your prior knowledge.
6. After every study session, reflect on your thought processes. Did you get succumbed into details again, or did you put that for later? Did it feel to overwhelming or is it just enough to push you? Self-regulation and feedback is key here.
7. Make mistakes and fix them, it is genuinely possible to get better at this, even if it might seem not possible at first. It took me like 6 months to get a hang of it. So, cheers!
You say you understand the skill so I assume you are at stage 2 and feeling overwhelmed is one of the indicators of deficiency in practice.(You can look up the section in the video where he talks about the importance of stage 2).So just get more practice And follow the guidelines for stage 2.
nice take on the dunning krueger curve .
Thank you so much
Guys, it's true . After learning how to learn, I am now reborn as a MC isekei world and have a big harem group
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@@mr.valdez8430 lol, u funny funny.... not
Love the nunchucks. I am very interested in learning how to learn practical skills. I am pretty goodat book smarts but trying to practical tasks.
Thank you
Thank youuuu for doing things for free
Ooohhh nice! Maybe I need this cuz I am doing chem this semester 😮
I love that you showed off your sick nunchucks skills! 🤣🥰 Makes me infinitely more willing to listen to your helpful advice ❤
Genius brother! Thanks so much
this video is amazing
Another gem
I think when we stop practising a skill we don''t completly forget it, when we relearned again, it takes far less timer to learn it again.
Thank u!
Seeing Justin use the Nunchaku is joy
Excellent!!
Dr Sung,
Another great video.
Could you please consider uploading a video on the best methods to prepare for the different styles of OSCES? In particular, history taking and physical examinations. Thank you!
Terrific content !!!
Could you please consider doing a video on choosing good study resources and how to study from multiple resources at the same time? Thanks :)
Hey Justin ! Please make one about Public Speaking, wish to see how you mastered it. PLEASEEEE !
Thank you Justin.
Respect!
Wow thank you!
Thanks👍👍👍👍
Thank you for providing this timely information. I am currently at the -1 state, that being absolute cloudy brain lol😂
Hey Justin, your videos have been really helpful lately. I am curious how you would approach more technical subjects, such as Maths and chemistry, over more analytical and social subjects, such as history and literature. I have been taking your advice about higher order thinking and mind mapping and they have been helping more in analytical and social subjects, but I struggle to apply them properly for technical subjects because I feel like it's hard to compare or evaluate information.
Bless your soul bro
The beginners mindset is part of mastery. The dissatisfied comments show a basic lack of understanding mastery. Never shun the simple.
Thank you. I am relearning Taijiquan and was getting discouraged.
ngl, these are great free resources channel that willing to share these valuable informations free without pay ...when you know how to learn ......sky is the only limit
Excellent, valuable video. Insta-subscribe. Thanks!
*Mindmap guy becomes Nunchaku guy*
love it ❤
I understand the RAIL framework, could you do a follow-up showing just how this might apply to a core learning skill/strategy?
1:19
He can Nunchaku now
I am at the awarness stage of learning to study effectively
Love You brother
Gave a like because of the nunchaku. You absolute badass.
WE NEED MIND MAPS FOR MATH. PLEASE.
IMMA TAKE NOTES AS USUAL
That proves he is teaching us the right way
Although I am still skeptical
can you make some video for learning coding .
I want to try doing a whole topic in one of my classes without even using a pen and I am wondering if that is a horrible idea or if it will force me to find better ways to learn things
Soo cool
being afraid of making mistakes is a design flaw within our society. we're taught to fear stuff like bad notes, job losses, and even when others are doing mistakes, like our kids or group members. it's ridiculous.
glad can be those who have lived differently, gosh -.-
The nunchucks looked really impressive, since I'm watching at 2x.
Can we have sources for each video?
And what is the update on your book or paper that you mentioned in other video
9:12 my grandparents not even making it to stage one
That leaves the question whether we should also be working on getting more immediate feedback? I see a lot of gamified sources used in public schools - Kahoot, Genially, Duolingo among them - doing everything to asses and give immediate feedback whether something was right or wrong. But this is only effective for factual retrieval, no?
Should we strive to provide our students (or get as students) more immediate feedback in skills that are considered in the latent learning category? How late is too late in terms of feedback for skills like this? What other things about formative feedback we could challenge? (I don't think scoring something just as right or wrong is any feedback in 90% of the cases, excluding classical math)
You should also buy soft wood or sponge nunchaku to play around the house. And use the steel one outside.
You might destroy something otherwise.
Will you do a video about the relationshio between knowledge acquisition and skill
@@ahmedelhedoudy2670 I'm no expert and my words don't hold concrete value but I do believe there are definitely 2 types of knowledge acquisition:
- Practical Acquisition: Gather knowledge with the aim of putting it into practice yourself.
- Entertainment Acquisition: Gathering knowledge as leisure time.
(I made those names up)
From my own understanding for Skill, it's essentially a culmination of your Practical Acquisition.
I could be totally off. This is just purely personal theory.
Hi, great video. I would be better if you się domem examples on learing how to copywrting, how to make great photos. I need more real examples. Thank you ❤
justin with nunchuks was the last thing i imagined when i clicked on this video
Please do you have a podcast?
1:30 I bet this video was made specifically so Justin could show off his combat skills 😂😂
Jokes aside, thanks for the video mate.
Can you please do a review of the book 'ultralearning'?
Justin could you recommand us some of the research papers that you have read?
Can you discuss what to do when you just can't seem to understand something? Like a university level maths questions that you can't quite understand 100% even if you are given the answer and consult multiple sources.
No practical use...until you come across that assassin your 9 year old self was worried about! Great Vida and WONDERFUL class! Y'all should join.
What about concepts with just right or wrong understanding, with no exercise???
Hey Justin, can you react to the video: Justin Sung GRINDE Maps vs Buzan Mindmaps by Ahmni? I would love to hear your opinion on that :)
The steps I'd take is understanding perfect technique and then slowly, mindfully practicing perfect technique until it becomes habit. Practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect. I'd love your criticism. This has worked extremely well for me.
@@joelvahrenkamp1360 my first thought is that the method you describe is only applicable to a skill where there is some defined and accepted "correct technique." However, many complex skills require the ability to solve problems and use creativity to succeed.
A lot is explained about understanding concepts and learning systems.
But what if you have to memorize a lot of facts, rules, and data?
What are the most effective methods?
Hey Dr. Sung i'm 16 year old preparing for pre medical entrance test and i can't really remember things so often. Are there any tips to overcome this. Love from India
Life is a continuous learning: I have learned Nunchaku at the age of 53, programming as well. And still learning new skills..
I use to do my job alone, not because i hate people, but i enjoy very much when i make mistakes & try to fix them (hard ways), That's how i honed my skills. ☕️☕️
1:35
Cap!
That's as cool as shit.
Is there a PDF sheet for this video ?
Also don't think this applies to smaller things like centring a div in css
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