2023 F-350 Super Duty 30-Day Review (LOTS of details to share!!!)

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024

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  • @harryzarubaiii755
    @harryzarubaiii755 Před rokem +9

    I prefer the breaks and turning. I've done the math. Most goosenecks are rated 25000 GVWR to avoid the 11% federal tax. With average weights that means you likely won't ever find a trailer capable of towing over 20k without going to air breaks and paying that tax. 5000 payload is plenty enough to keep within the majority of trailers restrictions while applying 15% of weight to the truck. Also I'll be able to rerate my 2023 F450 Limited after the first year and solve any issues. It takes me two days to put half the mileage you put on your 350 in your first month. I will likely be out of warranty very quickly and will be able to rerate my truck. Only reason payload is 5000 is so non CDL drivers can drive it out of the lot. While I've never re-rated a derated truck alot of people argue the payload is just as capable as the 350. Even if I halve that and get 6000 payload out of it that is plenty enough to haul 25000 pounds comfortably. I've had people break check me while I was in a 2021 F350 dually when it's payload in the bed was maxed out with work rolls from a service center in PA. Its breaking capabilities left alot to be desired.. I also strongly prefer having the turning radius. Getting a 350 dually out of a packed parking lot is a nightmare in comparison to a 450. These are just my thoughts for my current situation. I'll miss the payload out of the gate. In respect to the high output which comes standard in the Limited I ordered my only concern is longevity and service related headaches once the vehicle hits around 200k+ miles.

    • @shearenergy8203
      @shearenergy8203 Před rokem

      It’s nothing we haven’t heard before. Stick with h your 450 year prefer my 350 6.7 ho

    • @davidhoffner2432
      @davidhoffner2432 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The F450 steering in a campground with the 40ft 5th wheel is the main reason I have the 2024 F450 platinum on order.

  • @johnpeters9793
    @johnpeters9793 Před rokem +3

    Not certain where you're getting the 900 pound difference in weight ...unless you're comparing a gas motor to the PSD, which is not available in the 450 pickup.
    Actual weight difference between a similarly equipped DRW 350 and 450 is

  • @richarddubois5529
    @richarddubois5529 Před rokem +8

    We just bought a 2023 f450 and we feel the same way it is such an easy truck to use it turns on a dime it’s really quick we cannot say enough good things about it

  • @cwtex59
    @cwtex59 Před rokem +3

    Love my 2020 F450 which I pull my 40’ 5thwheel rv that has a dry weight of 21k and 24k the way we travel . I looked at 350 dually but preferred the 450 that I ordered ( Platinum without a sun roof)

    • @FlyingAceAV8B
      @FlyingAceAV8B Před 7 měsíci

      I was against the sunroof but ended up getting one on my 250 and I’ll say it was a good decision. It’s pretty nice having all the light and Mountain View’s.

    • @cwtex59
      @cwtex59 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@FlyingAceAV8B
      Had one on a previous truck and didn’t use it much. Also knew people that had leaks with them.

    • @FlyingAceAV8B
      @FlyingAceAV8B Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@cwtex59 the previous generation did have the leaking issue but it was fixed on the current gen…or so they say. Time will tell.

  • @davidcorridon5053
    @davidcorridon5053 Před rokem +2

    My 2020 F
    Our 2020 V8 F150 is still a joy and knocks out serious over landing challenges

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před rokem

      An F-150 with a V-8 can last forever!! Great trucks.

  • @LWRC
    @LWRC Před 6 měsíci +1

    @51:29 The crease in the leather seat looks like it came from the factory that way with a seam sewn right in! Is that what we are looking at??! Can't believe Ford would actually do that as the line in the leather looks perfectly straight like it was done on a sewing machine!

  • @dvdht1975
    @dvdht1975 Před rokem +2

    Thanks AP for all the videos on the Ford! I finally decided it was time to replace my old ‘08 ram3500 w/ 6.7 and manual transmission. All your real-world info was helpful in making a decision.

  • @meadmaker4525
    @meadmaker4525 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I wonder if some of the extra 900 lbs in the F450 is in that wider track front axle? The tiny turning radius trick that thing does with that axle is amazing. Unfortunately, with those 19.5" rims, you can only fit commercial-grade tires on it. You'd have to switch out the wheels entirely to put anything else on it. I know they're made for extremely heavy work loads, but if you're not using the truck for that regularly, I hear they ride like rocks. Really enjoyed the ride along in your F350. Seems really quiet and smooth.

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yup. It would be great if Ford started offering the wide front axle as an option in the dually F-350. They could charge whatever they wanted, and people would buy it. We drove an F-450 once and it turned as tight as a Corolla.

    • @meadmaker4525
      @meadmaker4525 Před měsícem +1

      @@ArmyProperty - I was just re-watching this video (as a used '23 F350 dually just came up for sale near me) and I noticed the nav screen looked different than what you typically see with Ford. Can I assume you're using Apple Carplay or Android Auto there? Which one, if you don't mind me asking? Really like that it feeds nav directions into the HUD, too. Extremely convenient. I assume you still have and love this truck?

  • @dougcjohn
    @dougcjohn Před 9 měsíci +2

    Great video, good input and positive to hear you enjoy it so much. The upgrade to HO, Multiple improvements with HO option, many developed for the HO trickled down to stnd 6.7 too, with introduction of HO the 6.7 was improved for both versions… like new heads with improved cooling. Several enhancements that provide additional performance with HO but also some that provide greater endurance too… lower compression ratio 15.8 decreased to 15.2, turbo coolant, etc. Both super Engines!

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks! Yes, both engines were definitely improved. I think people have no idea how strong the standard 6.7 really is. There’s almost nobody who needs the HO or will get $2,500 of value from it. But it’s a free country!!!

  • @greggkunkle8539
    @greggkunkle8539 Před 9 měsíci +2

    You live fairly close to me. I’m right off the Lansdale exit of TP (first exit north of the northeast extension start point in Plymouth Meeting). Ironically enough, after work I’m going to look at almost the same truck you have.

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před 9 měsíci

      Best of luck with your purchase! These are great trucks. Just be prepared for nosebleed-level pricing. We got ours without a "market adjustment" and it was still painful. But as long as you've got a need for the capability, it's definitely worth it. Also..... JJ at Keller Brothers Ford in Lebanon took great care of us (with two purchases so far).

  • @natehawkins2910
    @natehawkins2910 Před rokem +2

    Also, the light steering is from the electric assist that comes on it standard when you get adaptive cruise/lane keep assist. My 23 feels heavy because I ordered it with standard lariat trim which gives standard cruise. My 22 king ranch has the electric assist and feels light as a feather. I like both trucks tho, the 23 HO lariat is really fun to drive tho. Very refined feeling.

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před rokem +1

      Yeah it's amazing how easy these trucks they are to drive. Like I said, it feels a lot smaller than it really is. All the controls are light and precise. And that 6.7 just loves to put out power. Amazing engine.

    • @seagullsbtn
      @seagullsbtn Před rokem +1

      I've got a 21, it amazes me how "heavy" the steering gets when using the Lane Keep/centering. I think the V8 is the best all around engine in the F150. Worst mpg towing at high speeds 12 (over 200 miles interstate), best 25.8 over 495 interstate miles)

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před rokem

      @@seagullsbtn yup, the F-150 w/ 5.0 V-8 will hold up really, really well over time.

  • @vinnie8495
    @vinnie8495 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Love the new Ford Super Dutys

  • @LWRC
    @LWRC Před 6 měsíci +1

    Did Ford add tracks for the hanging folders in the center console box??!!! That's brilliant!!!

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes! It’s had those for a few years. I think Rams had them first.

    • @LWRC
      @LWRC Před 6 měsíci

      @@ArmyProperty Thanks for sharing 👍👍

  • @LWRC
    @LWRC Před 6 měsíci

    Ford also did a cheap thing by taking away the hood over the gauges and just having a flat top on the entire dash!!! Kind of hard to believe a manufacturer takes a step backwards when they had a good thing going! Time to dump the UAW and get their labor costs under control so they don't have to continue to cheap out on feature of their trucks!!!

  • @LWRC
    @LWRC Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is one annoying thing Ford has done with the new digital version of the analog speedo and tach gauges - using bar graphs with numbers in the middle. It looks like hell and isn't as clean and easy to read as the pure analog gauges on the 2022 and earlier trucks! Time to bring back pure analog gauges!!!

  • @JedRock22
    @JedRock22 Před rokem +2

    I live in Alberta Canada and it’s legal to delete our trucks. And the only thing holding me back is you can’t delete it yet. Do you think that will be able to happen one day? I just hate having to deal with all that emissions crap. I’m a welder looking for my future welding truck and I really like the 23 model, but I can’t commit on it because of not being able to delete yet.

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před rokem +1

      No kidding? I'm surprised TONS of people aren't registering their trucks there, for that exact reason.
      Not sure when you'll be able to get a delete kit for a 2023. It's not a whole lot different from a 22, at least the standard-output version. There are some changes that were made to the standard and HO versions, but they don't affect the overall power output (of the standard one).

    • @JedRock22
      @JedRock22 Před rokem +1

      @@ArmyProperty yeah I’m not kidding lol, only Alberta, and British Columbia can legally have them done that I know of. It’s funny, the dealerships will even delete your truck if you ask them to. But thanks for the info, I’m sure someone will eventually make a kit

  • @keiththacker923
    @keiththacker923 Před rokem +1

    I would agree with you on the simplify of the maintenance of the cummins, but these new rams are having significant hydraulic lifter failure. My 2022 Ram 3500 H.O. goes tomorrow for its first set of lifters, 38k miles always serviced at the dealership.

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před rokem

      We've heard the same thing!!! Apparently the 21's don't have the lifter problem, and they also don't have the CP-4, so they're basically the Goldilocks version of the Gen-5 / Cummins. Again though.... just think about how much work it would take to replace the lifters in a 6.7 PowerStroke!!!

    • @keiththacker923
      @keiththacker923 Před rokem +1

      True…

    • @ThanksHero
      @ThanksHero Před rokem +1

      It seems to be mostly just the high outputs with lifter failures.

    • @rich7447
      @rich7447 Před 7 měsíci

      I had a solid lifter Cummins ISB (built in 2010) and don't know why they even went to hydraulic lifters. My M11 is solid lifter too.

  • @cleewilson
    @cleewilson Před rokem +2

    Like the information you provided about the truck. Would you buy a later model f350 like 2017 on up with a little over 100,000 miles?

  • @DS-TRUCKS
    @DS-TRUCKS Před 2 měsíci +1

    That screen is NICE!

  • @hughalbrecht1218
    @hughalbrecht1218 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Would this be a good truck for a pick up camper to put on the back?

  • @paulcoonce2493
    @paulcoonce2493 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you; great input!

  • @dalelangehennig161
    @dalelangehennig161 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Loving your reviews. As I was looking at the power boost and stumbled on your page. As far as the high output, I would mention that while the horse power is only 25 more, the torque increases from 1050 to 1200. So that is significant. Just thought I’d mention. This is one reason I am looking at the HO. Hate that your feedback is that the exhaust brake is not very effective.

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks! Yes, the high-output does have a healthy bump in terms of torque, which can really help when getting a bigger trailer (more than 20K) up a steep incline. But most people are never gonna have a need for it. And people who tow those kinds of weights can just go with a shorter final drive (larger number) to make up for the "lack" of torque in the standard-output. In our opinion it's an exercise on Ford's part, in seeing just how much of our money they can take. And yes, we're sorry to have to report that the exhaust brake is substandard, compared to the Ram and also to our Duramax that's more than a decade old!!

    • @dalelangehennig161
      @dalelangehennig161 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ArmyProperty took the plunge. Gonna take my chances on the regular output F250. Bought a 24 Longhorn limited Ram Cummins 6-speed and felt super underpowered after pulling a couple of times (though the exhaust brake was TOP NOTCH no exaggerations on any of the reviews on that!). Traded for a 24 F250 5 days later. Tags hadn't even come in yet. So back in a Powerstroke. It's what I am used to. My 19 F350 XL cloth seat Dually was the best pulling truck I have ever had and truly felt like there was nothing behind it when towing my boat. I think I'm gonna love the F250 and with all the mental acrobatics I went through to get here, I'm done and locked in! Thanks for your insight! Love your page!

  • @Sp_Tremor6.7ho
    @Sp_Tremor6.7ho Před 9 měsíci +1

    How did you get the gauge cluster to display like that

  • @robertsabella7298
    @robertsabella7298 Před 9 měsíci

    I like your video but I'm thinking of the F450 now because the standard engine in that is Diesel..

  • @branmichaluk445
    @branmichaluk445 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Always top of the line models being tested?

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před 11 měsíci

      Definitely not "top of the line" -- there's still another $20K to go before you're at the very top. Unfortunately, Ford has made it to where you have to step all the way up to the Lariat in order to get some of the features we wanted. Both of the F-150's we bought recently were XLT's, and we are more than happy with them!

    • @branmichaluk445
      @branmichaluk445 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@ArmyProperty I have owned approximately a dozen pick up trucks in my life time, cannot imagine that all this technology is necessary for the exception of safety equipment. Have we lost the meaning and purpose of this type of vehicle, hence the ridiculous prices. What's the newest option for next year a tampon dispenser.

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před 11 měsíci

      @@branmichaluk445 a lot of the technology is useless. Couldn't agree more. Panoramic sunroofs, full-digital gauges, cool-looking grilles, etc. But driver-assistance systems like adaptive cruise control, lanekeeping / lane centering, or other systems like the onboard scales, and Pro Power Onboard (which can run your house during a blackout) are worth their weight in gold.

  • @TheActiontkr
    @TheActiontkr Před rokem +1

    Check your part prices. Those ram parts are expensive as hell

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před rokem

      Good to know! Thanks. (But as stated, the Cummins is a lot less complex, so it's a whole lot easier & cheaper to work on)

  • @vinnie8495
    @vinnie8495 Před 11 měsíci

    Platinum and Limited come with projector led headlights and led tailights. How do you like the led reflectors headlights on your lariat?

    • @FlyingAceAV8B
      @FlyingAceAV8B Před 7 měsíci

      Have the same lights on my 2024 250 and they are pretty dang good. Not as crisp as a projector would be but I also didn’t spend 20k more to get them.

  • @natehawkins2910
    @natehawkins2910 Před rokem +1

    Good video. I bought the high output not for the extra 25hp but for the water cooled turbo. Also because it doesn’t regen by injecting fuel into cylinder 8 anymore it directly injects fuel into the exhaust pipe after turbo. Not sure if standard output has that 9th injector but I knew the HO did so I wanted it to stop that turbo from dealing with 1250 degree temps during regens. Also, EGR can now be used at the same time as regens now, instead of blocking it off like the 22 and before trucks. Can you look under and see if your standard output also now has the direct fuel injection like my HO does? It might have been EPA making them do that on all of them now for the 23 year clampdown.

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před rokem +1

      That's super interesting. We just sort of assumed every version of the 6.7 PowerStroke had the 9th injector by now. Glad to know the H.O. has it. The 6.6 Duramax had it from 2011 onward, and it eliminated all those issues -- especially the problem of washing oil off the cylinder walls. We'll take a look and see if we can figure it out. Unfortunately, as stated, there's so much ducting and hoses and other crap piled on top of the engine, that it's really hard to see much of anything!! And yes must be nice to have a water-cooled turbo! We just felt like the "$2,500 for 25hp" proposition was a little obscene. Ford's pricing policy is like a vacuum cleaner that's sucking money out of your pockets these days.

    • @natehawkins2910
      @natehawkins2910 Před rokem +3

      @@ArmyProperty Ford does have a knack at pulling money out of our pockets! They sure have a lot of mine! Lol I currently have a 22 f250 king ranch diesel and a 22 f150 lightning platinum and a 23 f250 lariat HO … and I don’t mind giving them the money if they keep making trucks like these!

    • @joshmcgowan33
      @joshmcgowan33 Před rokem +1

      Same reasons I ordered a HO. Didn’t need the power, but wanted the extra cooling.

    • @natehawkins2910
      @natehawkins2910 Před 11 měsíci

      @@joshmcgowan33 did you know the tranny is also beefed up? Part numbers are even different HO vs Standard output

  • @susanrizzi6647
    @susanrizzi6647 Před 11 měsíci

    What is the payload on the door jamb label say for your truck?

  • @TruckingTendencies
    @TruckingTendencies Před rokem +1

    Army property? Is equipped with emission systems ?

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před rokem +2

      Not so far! But you never know. Gonna be hard to imagine putting a DPF on an M-1 tank though. The air filters ("v-packs") are the size of a 30-inch flat screen TV.

  • @snomofilms
    @snomofilms Před rokem

    Who’s this ‘we’ you keep referring to? Just wondering throughout the entire video.

  • @magnuseriksson5721
    @magnuseriksson5721 Před rokem +1

    Very nice truck

  • @iBANGgears
    @iBANGgears Před rokem +1

    What is all that rattling noise?

    • @ArmyProperty
      @ArmyProperty  Před rokem

      It's all the junk that we carry around everywhere with us. This truck has a ton of pockets and cubbies, and unfortunately we have filled most of them up.

  • @Alexander-fr1kk
    @Alexander-fr1kk Před rokem +8

    I’m so disappointed ford went woke with their pride truck…

    • @Captain-Awesome
      @Captain-Awesome Před rokem +1

      YES! My son, loves his RAM, keeps calling my Raptor Gay 😢… He is kinda right!

    • @joshmcgowan33
      @joshmcgowan33 Před rokem

      Christ. Are we back in high school in the 90’s? Who gives a shit?

    • @FlyingAceAV8B
      @FlyingAceAV8B Před 7 měsíci

      News flash, they are all woke. It’s part of the corporate globalist agenda.

  • @diggermolly5927
    @diggermolly5927 Před 5 měsíci

    How in the world did you not clean out your center console in preparation for making this video? The truck is pushing 100K in price and you cant show enough respect for your viewers to take 5 mins to clean it up before filming? Not sure what Army you are a property of but it is not the Army I spent 30 plus years in. Great content, but that alone may explain the low subscriber level for this channel.

  • @WallyHunter1875
    @WallyHunter1875 Před 8 měsíci

    Do you really think gas engines nowadays don’t get to a quarter mil miles? U do realize several are seeing a million. Usually the frame rots out. Nothing is more economical than a gas engine. Classic diesel fanboy.