Spanish High-Speed Rail in First Class: Alicante - Madrid-Atocha aboard Talgo AVE S-112 Train
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2021
- Train No.: Renfe AVE 5123
From: Alacant-Terminal, Alicante, Comunidad Valenciana
To: Madrid Puerta de Atocha, Spain
Travelling via: Villena Alta Velocidad, Albacete, Cuenca Fernando Zóbel
Travel Class: First Class / Preferente
Line: Madrid-Levante High-Speed Railway network (LAV Madrid-Levante, Alta Velocidad Española)
Marketed as: Turista Plus
Car No: 03
Seat No: 05C
Occupancy in First Class: around 15%
Train operator: Renfe
Ticket (Alicante-Madrid): Promo EUR 79
Bought on: renfe.es
Scheduled travel time: 2 hours and 30 minutes
Departure from Alicante: 12h40 cet
Arrival in Madrid-Atocha: 15h10 cet
Travel season: June 2021
Trainset: AVE Class S-112
Registration: 112 026-0
Type: Talgo 350
Manufacturer: Talgo Patentes and Bombardier
Intro Music: Bright Side by AR musicvine.com/track/ra/bright...
The railsystem in Spain is amazing.
I am.using it for over 12 years. So long i am travelling to Spain i really love spanish trains clean safe go to germany you will see the Differenzen
Did the return journey from atocha to Alicante in June 2019 , very impressive service a great experience loved it and would do it again no problems and recommend the train all the time in Spain great service .
The antenna system mentioned in 19:32 is not military. It's a shortwave transmitter in Noblejas which broadcasts Radio Exterior de España, a worldwide radio station in various languages.
So clean and upscale
I love it how they call the first class "preferente" in order to avoid social status differences among the passengers
I noticed that people in Spain are sensitive to social problems. I find them to be quite progressive socially speaking. People with reduced mobility are respected and treated with dignity not pity and sexual orientation is totally acceptable. What a great country when you think it has catholic tradition. The long way they went just remarkable. 💪👍
Beautiful scenery and incredible weather as the train travels at high speed 😍
Beautiful...26 minutes of travelling thru Spain....felt as if I travelled it, enjoyed it....thank you :-)
You are my favorite train video channel by far. I love how you combine the scenery with great trivia about what we are seeing outside the window. Thank you for making these for those of us who can’t always travel as much as you do!
SPAIN is also the world's third country with the most expansive, detailed , aesthetic and modern freeways (motorways) after America and China. And the number one in the entire Europe. There's no place like Spain when it comes to travel convenience.
Not at all, Spain is the 2nd country after China, america is a jome in terms of high speed tranis, also usa. To be clear, 2nd country, yes it is
@@RESISTANCE220 Oh OK, thanks for that updated info of yours. Yes, China is awesome, I visited that huge country already and their railway system is mind blowing.
And who paid for this convencience? As you know, the budget of any given state has limits, so investment can either go in nature, biodiversit, and landscape destructive infrastructure projects (convenient, yes) or to public education, nature conservation, climate change mitigation, in effect all things which would be of higher importance in the times we are now - and regarding the climate change effects to come. Spain turns into a desert. No water, no life.
@@emelio7995 China is awesome. China is also a dictature, supressing minorities, best in mass surveillance and training its people to be sheep. Welcome to 1984! (Orwell).
@@akbk2505 why don't you walk around Galicia or the Basque County to get some education on your desert theory?
Note: the nowhere stations usually offers public transport linking the station with surrounding cities or the main city in the area.
There are 5 "nowhere AV(HS) stations" in Spain:
- Cuenca AV (LevanteA HSL), Bus L1
- Requena-Utiel AV (LevanteA HSL), N/A
- Segovia AV (Noroeste HSL), Bus L11
- Tarragona AV (Noreste HSL), few bus sevices
- Villena AV (Levante B HSL), few bus services
In addition to these nowhere stations, the Burgos station has moved from downtown to the edge of the city making it practically inaccessible, although it has a bus line too.
The Burgos station, although in the outskirts, is still within the city.
Amazing hi-speed train.Thank you,keep posting.
I really enjoyed your video as if I were riding the train. Fantastic!!
yep; thanks for the feedback
Your train videos are just supeb and this one is no exception. I enjoyed the scenery and your really interesting commentary. I also have a soft spot for El Pato - in my book the cutest high speed train 🤩🦆.
Nice video. Good opportunity to study English. Thanks a lot. It was awesome.
Please note that the English was not written by a native speaker and contains several mistakes.
Reaching 7 minutes earlier, unthinkable here in Germany :D
True but 7 minutes is not "normal". I think they heavily (and deliberately) overestimated the travelling time to make up an eventual "true delay". Btw, Renfe is very generous during such event: up to 50% refund if your train arrive 15 minutes late and total refund from 30 minutes. This is a part of the deal I guess.
@@mickael9665 ah Okey nice to know. Ice in Germany now take more travel time too, to avoid delays. May its difficult to say if this is Really better
in case of a delay: it's very difficult to retrieve this delay compensation from renfe as a foreigner
Come on. Germany is smaller than Spain and has a population density a lot higher than Spain. It also has a high speed rail network a lot older than Spain's. Don't knock it. DB does extremely well.
When I saw that hood on the engine I immediately understood that the train was a fast one!
Looks like we're in Arizona or Northern Mexico ...oh wait, but we're travelling at some 287km/h! :)
Very true. US SUVs won't drive that fast. :-)
Muy buen vídeo. Excelente. Muchas gracias
Minuto 17,40 , cruce con otro tren.... impresionante.
The nickname "pato" (Spanish for 'duck') is due to the aerodynamic design of the front power car that resembles a duck's bill.
Amazing video, congrats!
Vamos España!!!!! Este es el partido que tenemos que ganar, el de las infraestructuras y la tecnología, las energías renovables, eólica y solar. Vamos 💪!.....
This is the best AVE train, the S112
very nice! hello from Russia
Nice video.
Beautiful!!!
Good informative video......
did you have wifi on this train? I did the Malaga-Madrid AVE and it had no wifi 😞
super train!
MINUTO 17,40 CRUCE CON OTRO TREN IMPRESIONANTE
excellent
A wonderful video published to professional standards. Sometimes your English amused me 😁
An important note: the Madrid-Levante, Madrid-Andalucia and Madrid-Catalunya lines do not merge close to Madrid, they are independent lines. The Madrid-Andalucia and Madrid-Catalunya lines do finish in Madrid-Atocha, and the Madrid-Levante line continues using an underground tunnel to Madrid-Chamartin (and in the future, will also call at an underground stop in Madrid-Atocha). The latter is scheduled to open in December 2021, so in the meantime the trains to Levante start in Atocha, use the Madrid-Andalucia line and transfer to the Madrid-Levante line at Torrejón de Velasco.
There is a by pass (since 2009) near Madrid, and the AVE Sevilla - Barcelona does not stop in Madrid, instead it goes straightforward outside Madrid to Barcelona from Sevilla.
Los trenes no van a " Levante". Van a Valencia o Alicante.
I travelled this line 2 years ago in an Alvia high speed train - capable of 250 km/h -, it took 2 hours and 40 minutes from Alicante to Madrid Atocha - if I recall correctly there were 440 km. of line -, and only costed me € 24, I bought my ticket in the station itself one day in advance. For me, it was no worth pay double price in order to save less than 20 min of a journey. Besides, there were only 3 AVE services a day.
Yep, this is the problem with Ave services. As they gradually substitute previous Alvia/Altaria/Intercity and similar services, people are left with no choice but to pay double the price for the same trip. This strategy is turning long distance rail trips into a luxury for most Spaniards, but it doesn't matter because politicians and businessmen make profit from the whole process, even if it generates enormous amounts of public debt. Meanwhile, affordable conventional railways and night trains are being purposely left to die...
It's really sad to see where things are going in this country.
Great summary of the journey... Thanks! Just traveled Bilbao-Madrid-Cartagena---Murcia---Alicante---Zaragoza---Bilbao by train. Here in the North of Spain due to the orography, among other issues, things run slowly in terms of high speed new mainlines. It will have taken 20 years to finish the Basque Y by the time it's open (2027???) with the gap between Burgos-Miranda-Vitoria. I guess the classic line will finally be adapted with a third rail for classic AVE trains. We'll see... ;) What RENFE really needs is to hire the commercial&sales team in SNCF...
Tenemos una red de ferrocarriles de Alta Velocidad maravillosa en dos horas te plantas Madrid ‐Alicante, genial 😁😉
Very good. Mercifully, no toilet inspection.
Why the nasty comments and the plane lies? For instance, you say yo have to ride a taxi in order to get to Cuenca. Wel, there is a bus line from the Cuenca's AVE station to downton Cuenca every half an hour.
on a sunday?
@@doc7austin Every 60 minutes on Sundays, 08:30 to 22:30
Just a note: the spelling is Chamartín....the r is misplaced. Interesting video, and accurate facts
i like the talgo high speed trains they have a classic looking interior . if it wasn't for the fact large parts of spain has dry desert steppe and moutain climate there would be more cities along the route however it would also make the journey longer . you should have bought water with you especially as spain extremely hot during summer
I've done the AVE a few times but something always seems lacking compared to the TGV duplex. Why is it that both France and Spain have this propensity to build some stations in the arse end of nowhere?
Por el:
Punto número uno: parece ser que debido a los últimos grandes avances en el ferrocarril, a la gente no nos gusta oír el ruido, y en las ciudades donde no hay dinero para soterrar, se construye a varios kilómetros del centro, pero normalmente suelen tener autobuses que te dejan en el centro.
Punto número dos: tenemos muchas estaciones en pueblos pequeñísimos, así que se coge un punto más o menos cerca de tres pueblos y se pone ahí una estación.
Y punto número tres: en algunas ciudades simplemente ya no hay espacio para poner una estación en el centro.
My local line.
Spanish high-speed rail is indeed very extensive and fast, although the timetable can be quite sparse. Pre-Covid (and pre-Brexit) the timetables allowed one to depart London in early morning and reach Malaga in late evening, all by high-speed rail. I haven't checked for timetables now and I don't know if anyone ever did the journey. If possible, I'd definitely love to do it in the future.
19:48 And what are these little "balls" at the catenary
I am obsessed with ride quality so please tell us more about the less than smooth Talgo ride compared to Chinese high speed trains. The video shows quite a bit of vibration inside the cars. I've always doubted that the ride on these low slung articulated Talgos could match heavier conventional trains. BTW: Great video and picture quality. Thanks!
Not "CHARMATIN" but "CHAMARTÍN"
and no steps !!!!
How much does it cost ?
around EUR 40
You're riding in one of the best trains in the world in the middle of a pandemic and you can only make some bitchy comments about it? 0_0
Madrid to Alicante could be well under 2 hours if the railway was straighter! I guess that would've involved more tunnels and bridges though.
The idea is to connect as many important towns on the way with one single line as possible due to to high cost of building and then maintaining such advanced and dedicated infrastructure.
True, but it also depends on if the trains tilt or the tracks bank.
Not necessarily, the La Mancha plateau is completely flat, the route is longer because it had to go through Cuenca.
Ok, politics!!!!
Madrid - Alicante classic line (broad gauge) is around 421 km, the high speed one is near 500 km.
Using the classic line it took 3 h 30 min, stopping at Alcazar de San Juan, Albacete, Villena and Elda, the top speed was 200 between Albacete and La Encina, the rest was 160 km/h.
At the beggining of the 90's Renfe began to modernizethe whole line, the objetive was increasing the speed up to 200-220 km/h. It would take 2:45 the whole trip.
But... politicians changed their mind and AVE fever won the play. They stopped thd works on the classic line and designed a parlell one (oh my god! Wasting money as ever). And this is the final result, only 15- 20 min of difference between both cities but with million of euros wasted.
Wasting money, it'
I hope RENFE can extend Alicante service to French cities (joint operation with SNCF)
RENFE is certainly not keen to cooperate with SNCF anymore, since SNCF has lauched the competing Ouigo service on the Madrid-Barcelona high-speed railway
@@doc7austin can i know the gps app you use in ur phone ?
no gps app used; I used google maps to draw the map of the railway line afterwards
@@doc7austin i meant to ask about the gps app you use in other videos, ex. Trans-siberian series
motion x gps
Nice TR ... always great to see Alicante in a TR. The refurbished S-100 "TGV" units I've ridden on that line are much, much nicer in Preferente than the "pato" units but I think I heard the S-100 power cars are pretty much life expired now. I'm looking forward to trying out Orihuela-Madrid in September.
Its a shame that USA is 100 years behind in rail network being world's biggest Economy
You have an amazing airport network, far more suitable for your country.
@@nickmagee-brown739 I must say an amzing highway network - Average person can afford to drive cross country easily. The auto manufacturers and some airline companies killed the railway network for their selfish reasons
US will NEVER have a comprehensive high-speed rail system!
First one here
yeah, good, thanks!!!
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I agree that Talgos are not the smoothest high speed trains in Spain. I think (by experience) the original high speed train based on the french TGV or the Velaro are by far smoother than the Talgo. I'm waiting for the new Talgo AVRIL trains...let's see if they have improved.
The nickname 'el pato' means 'the duck'. This is because the shape of the front of the train resembles the head and beak of a duck.
why the irritating music!
ARRIBA ESPAÑAA JODER
Kklk
Parla is not a suburb but a 130.000 inhabitants city.
Llámalo suburbio, ciudad dormitorio, etc...Parla depende en gran medida de la economía de la capital.
@@4ev3rY, Parla es una de las ciudades industriales del sur, llena de polígonos y con su propio ayuntamiento y organización administrativa. Bien está que un guiri no se entere de la fiesta (no, si no sabes cállate, pero bueno) pero que un local salga a defender semejante tontá...
@@robert111k bueno mira si eres más feliz pensando que Parla ha crecido y ha desarrollado esa industria gracias a ella sola, si crees que Parla pudiera existir en medio del páramo castellano como lo hacen Burgos o Salamanca, entonces quien soy yo para quitarte la idea.
Que igual me estoy liando yo, pero suburbio no es cuestión de idendad politica sino de la función que representa un área residencial, si muchos parlenses viajan a otras ciudades para trabajar es un suburbio, si la economía de esa nucleo depende en gran medida de un núcleo mayor cercano es un suburbio, no tiene que ver con la identidad política, un barrio también puede ser un suburbio en ciertos casos.
@@4ev3rY, a ver si dejamos de decir tontás. Para empezar, ls estupidez ésa del "páramo". En Castilla hay de todo y muy productivo. Ya desde el siglo XV, además de una agricultura floreciente y una ganadería que era la envidia del mundo, se creó una red de ciudades protoindustriales (síp, ya se daba lo que después se ha llamado _verlag system_ en sitios como Segovia) de las más completas de Europa.
Y en cuanto a lo de “suburbio", otra paletada igual. Busca en el diccionario, anda. Verás que el significado de esa palabra en español es bastante distinto al de la inglesa “suburb".
Suburbio en inglés no tiene un sentido peyorativo, tiene un sentido de a las afueras, alejado del centro
ESPAÑA ES UN PAÍS CHICO Y MIREN COMO A AVANSADO EN SUS EMPRESAS FERROVIARIAS
Espana es uno de los paises mas grandes de europa pr superficie despues de Francia y los paises nordicos.Mas grande que polonia alemania inglaterra o italia. Y viven mas de 40 millones. Eso no es un pais chico
Having had almost the same experience that you describe (going from riding in the Shinkansen to riding on an AVE), I can attest to the AVE ride quality being... sub-optimal, at best.
Stupid and unsubstantiated claim. I could also say that I am 2 meters tall and that I have blue eyes. You're a sub-optimal person.
In my opinion the best ride quality of any train I’ve tried are all in Asia, mostly CRH, then THSR and then Shinkansen. The worst being TGV.
Spain? uhmmm : Oh yes, Africa.
Creía que en este caso, no iba a hacerse presente el tonto de turno. Pero no ha faltado.
Famous empty spanish trains!
Wonderful comment in the middle of a pandemia.
@@robert111k they were always empty, and it is a big problem not from today lol but since it exists
mejor eso que no las famosas neveras vacias de otros paises donde ni sueñan con tener estos trenes...ni siquiera vacios
@@anthonycubadugosz109 el problema no es ese ..si tienes dinero,tecnologia propia y los puedes pagar ..en España pudimos..el problema es tener los PKP de la epoca del pacto de varsovia...a que si?
Of course the pandemic plays a big part but note Renfes AVE network is very much underused. The Shanghai to Beijing high speed line alone carries 2x more than the entire AVE network yearly. The network is far too radial and having baggage checks and compulsory reservations makes it a huge inconvenience. Adif and Renfe should focus on other stuff like Cercancias and more rail frieght. The Mediterranean corridor is a good project for freight and Basque Y for freight and high speed trains from Paris to Madrid Chamartin.
Mediocric train this Talgo 112... Vibrations in hight speed... Lurching..
Bad train... ICE and TGV better