Are the Forever Knights Cool Again?

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  • čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
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    TIMECODES:
    0:00 - Introduction
    2:15 - Episode Breakdown
    27:45 - The Ratings
    31:30 - Final Thoughts
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    THE REVIEW
    I watch each episode with my own commentary, often pausing the scenes to get my words out without having to talk over the episode, and also to point out and analyze the show's art and animation. I have seen each episode already growing up, so these reviews are to compare and contrast the five categories listed below.
    PLOT (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
    The foundation of the episode. Uniqueness and overused tropes are taken into account, but it is also judged on how well it tells the story of the episode. An episode can score a 5 even with a basic/ cliche plotline as long as it has good pacing, worthy use of its tropes, and feels well-polished. An episode can lose points due to plotholes, uneven storytelling, and relying too heavily on cliches to do the work for it.
    CHARACTERIZATION (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
    How well the characters are written. Do they feel like themselves compared to the grand narrative of the franchise? Are the supporting or one-off characters interesting, or pure plot devices? Did the humor land? Did the actions and character motivations make sense?
    VISUALS (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
    Basically, everything that happens on-screen. Character Design. Animation. Backgrounds. Creative mechanics and solutions. If there is CGI or digital effects added, how well do they blend into the show, and were they used as an enhancement, or a crutch?
    IMPORTANCE (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
    This includes, but is not strictly based on, how important the episodes are to the current story arc (if there is one) or the general narrative of the Ben 10 Franchise. Points can also be awarded for how impactful the episode was, or how favored/ important it is to the general Ben 10 fanbase. I ask myself, "If I skipped this, would I be missing out on the 'Ben 10 Experience?' "
    ENTERTAINMENT (Scaled from 1 to 5)
    Pretty much the most important part of developing a tv show. You can be perfect in all four of the previous categories, but the episode can still be boring. On the flip side, the episode can be absolute garbage, but still an enjoyable watch. How likely would you be to put this episode on if you were in the mood to watch Ben 10?
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  • @DigiWarriorCallum
    @DigiWarriorCallum Před rokem +1576

    It always bothered me that they never acknowledged Pierce dying here. Imagine if Ben went into that fight at the end with the mindset of doing it for Pierce and any of the other aliens the Knights murdered

    • @Animestar21
      @Animestar21 Před rokem +176

      Hell we don’t even see the reactions of both his teammates or his friggin sister. And it would be so easy to fix. Instead of Argit coming out of nowhere, have Manny or Helen contact Max or Ben themselves and have them work alongside the team

    • @Darkspyre2
      @Darkspyre2 Před rokem +148

      I legitimately didn't even know he'd died until they brought it up in... what, Omniverse?

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM Před rokem +44

      @@Animestar21 yeah it didn't really need to be Argit thinking back

    • @jordandillow3423
      @jordandillow3423 Před rokem +27

      yes they brought it back in omniverse keep up slow poke

    • @yxrackman2397
      @yxrackman2397 Před rokem +31

      It’s like Jet from ATLA lmao

  • @christophermitchell9739
    @christophermitchell9739 Před rokem +950

    25:12 While I wouldn't call most of the Omnitrixes weapons, the Ultimatrix is the exception. It was designed for power, its forms are created through war simulations, and we know that it caused the sentient ultimates to suffer. The omnitrix was designed to create peaceful understanding and Ben uses it as a tool to do good, he's proven multiple times he's a hero without powers, but the Ultimatrix was created for combat.

    • @justcoolerthenyou8926
      @justcoolerthenyou8926 Před rokem +134

      Which is a big reason why Azmuth hated the evolution feature.

    • @christophermitchell9739
      @christophermitchell9739 Před rokem +39

      @@justcoolerthenyou8926 Exactly

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 Před rokem +32

      And i think the Ultimatrix would be somewhat closer looking to OV omnitrix instead of actually looking like a gauntlet and makes me think it was made to substitute the glitched AF omnitrix

    • @Tetraman_schlep
      @Tetraman_schlep Před rokem +2

      I actually think albedo turned evil because of the ultimatrix and working with vilgax

    • @randomturd1415
      @randomturd1415 Před rokem +5

      Omnitrices*

  • @SilverHyozanryu
    @SilverHyozanryu Před rokem +100

    "Turn into way big, that'd be hilarious"
    That shit cracked me up good.

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 Před rokem +14

      Professor Paradox: there are an infinite number of universes, like the one where ben turns into way bug and throws O'Driscoll's bald arse into space. Causing the forever knights to disband permanently in perpetual pants pissing fear.

  • @StanHanrahan
    @StanHanrahan Před rokem +367

    The knights used to always confuse me, their intentions or agenda was never really clear to me. All i could understand watching them as a kid is that they where in the business of scavenging alien tech, and often used as filler villains. I'm glad they got a more important arc in UAF. Always good to see another great breakdown! also how did i not notice mr Baumann was in UAF :0

    • @Theokal3
      @Theokal3 Před rokem +13

      Don't worry, neither did I for Baumann. Like Kuro said, the two versions are so different it's hard to even believe they're the same character. I only know they are because I went to check TvTropes.

  • @zaxreg6418
    @zaxreg6418 Před rokem +470

    Pierce's death would've been much more impactful if they showed any sort of consequences for it, have Manny and Helen lose it again like when they were introduced and have max feel like he failed to keep a kid under his care safe, anything other than just never acknowledging it

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 Před rokem +30

      Kevin did mention it in Weapon XI part 1 as one of the reasons why Ben never getting the omnitrix would have been better even if it was an act

    • @aldordz5768
      @aldordz5768 Před rokem +24

      @@axelnilsson5124 He technically still be alive, but I'm not sure how that would that be Ben's fault. He's the reason he got his powers, but it wasn't he's fault Pierce die. If anything, it is servantis fault for making everyone think they're half alien when they are technically still human.

    • @ryanwiebe4096
      @ryanwiebe4096 Před rokem +17

      Yeah,I Always Thought That Was So Stupid. Make Us CARE About Pierce's Death

    • @mitchjervis8453
      @mitchjervis8453 Před rokem +8

      They couldn't, since then the Plumbers Helpers would actually matter and not only be a plot device for the Highbreed Arc.

  • @auditect950
    @auditect950 Před rokem +55

    Kevin: Did Pierce just die?
    Ben: You know, it was really unclear.

  • @theamazingspooderman2697
    @theamazingspooderman2697 Před rokem +243

    15:32 when he said "very small thing" and zoomed into Gwen 💀
    also I think what "honourable" meant for Ben was to not choose an insta win alien like Way Big and keep it more grounded and fair

    • @yashbjoshi12
      @yashbjoshi12 Před rokem +34

      True,I noticed it the second he stop on gwen

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před rokem +4

      Still pretty unbalanced by going umtimate.

    • @gammaf1365
      @gammaf1365 Před rokem

      @@fightingmedialounge519 dude ult spider monkey got his ass beaten by psyphon and sunder

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před rokem +2

      @@gammaf1365 yeah, two aliens with different physiology to a human.

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 Před rokem +5

      @@fightingmedialounge519 Ultimate was him going his full power while still maintaining honor, if they wanted to take away his Ultimate in this fight Driscol shouldn't have been allowed to use his weapons too

  • @Tinkatube
    @Tinkatube Před rokem +177

    Should be said, the "Wielder of the most powerful weapon" line is accurate because Albedo's Ultimatrix is actually a weapon. Or at least, was modified INTO a weapon by Albedo. Whatever research purpose it had before Albedo installed the energy core into it, it's now a weapon: the most powerful weapon in the universe.

    • @petelee2477
      @petelee2477 Před rokem +14

      The chrono sapion time bomb or the anihilaarg might challenge that notion

    • @Tinkatube
      @Tinkatube Před rokem +25

      ​@@petelee2477 Sure, but Ben didn't know about either of those yet, and I don't believe the Knights did either. To Ben's knowledge, he has the most powerful object specifically designed as a weapon.
      My point is, the Omnitrix is a research tool with the potential to be used as a weapon, but after Albedo got his hands on it? It was 100% a weapon, completely.

    • @izukumidoriya8600
      @izukumidoriya8600 Před rokem +8

      @@petelee2477 Alien X is in the ultimatrix so it is the most powerful weapon

    • @vgngolley341
      @vgngolley341 Před rokem +7

      @@petelee2477 The Omnitrix is definitely more powerful than both those devices since Ben was able to reverse their effects

    • @Omega-uc7wl
      @Omega-uc7wl Před 11 měsíci +3

      ​@@petelee2477not really since the ultamatrix still has alien x and clock work

  • @HiperPivociarz
    @HiperPivociarz Před rokem +122

    Argit is growing bigger and bigger with each subsequent appearance! If we don't do anything, soon he'll be kaiju sized.

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 Před rokem +13

      I would explain how he was able to beat a way bad

    • @kermitgotthesickkicks4265
      @kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Před rokem +7

      Would explain how he took out a waybad all by himself

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 Před rokem +3

      I’m just imagining that in Frogs of War Part 2 instead of shooting his quills at the Way Bad he’s actually fighting her like hand-locked and everything

  • @frostythesharkpup2754
    @frostythesharkpup2754 Před rokem +509

    In the duel scene, Kevin was basically the whole fanbase: "Dude, go for Way Big, that would be hilarious"
    Yes Kevin, it would be hilarious

    • @deeznut709
      @deeznut709 Před rokem +30

      I would pay to see that

    • @gammaf1365
      @gammaf1365 Před rokem +12

      me in the maltruant arc with alien x

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 Před rokem +8

      Kevin says to step on Looma to in OV

    • @deeznut709
      @deeznut709 Před rokem +3

      @@theamazingspooderman2697 Imagine if ben did it with *WAYBIG*

    • @cooper3814
      @cooper3814 Před rokem +5

      Ben should've used Upchuck, remember Ben almost killed Driscoll as Upchuck!
      If he has PTSD, Driscoll would've been 😨😱😱😱😱😱😵😵😵😵😵😵
      And Ben would just as *Upchuck* and just stand there staring at him for 2 seconds and just turn back human

  • @nikewall6692
    @nikewall6692 Před rokem +185

    For me, I always saw Ben threatening the Forever Knights as him transitioning into Ben 10,000, the one who took out Vilgax and feels he doesn’t have time for family or friends anymore. Would have been interesting to see him slowly turn into that Ben.

    • @PiotrekDuncan7885
      @PiotrekDuncan7885 Před rokem +37

      Agreed! it would be very interesting to see him slowly move in this direction and at the same time show how important the people around him like Gwen, Kevin, Julie, his parents and Grandpa Max are and thanks to their presence does not change this counter incarnation of himself.

  • @Jack-sy8mr
    @Jack-sy8mr Před rokem +122

    They really should’ve had Driscoll in armor that looked like his classic series Forever King, it took me years to realize they were the same character

    • @armedweiss5531
      @armedweiss5531 Před rokem +36

      Or at the very least a similar type of armor. Driscoll is unrecognizable without it since he spent all hsi screentime in the suit.

  • @theredgaruda
    @theredgaruda Před rokem +330

    The scene where Ben threatened Driscoll shows how intense this show was at times.

    • @trentenogletree5898
      @trentenogletree5898 Před rokem +45

      @theglassespro4557 As Kuro once said "darkness and edginess is not what makes a great cartoon." case-and-point, Velma.

    • @celestialsoldier622
      @celestialsoldier622 Před rokem +5

      If you think that was Dark you need to grow up.

    • @trentenogletree5898
      @trentenogletree5898 Před rokem +13

      @theglassespro4557 personally, I don't think going darker tone would have made the series better or anything, I think it would have had a more negative consequence rather than positive and since the 2003 TMNT went down route in their 4th season and most just found it to be "edgy for the sake of being edgy" there wasn't really a reason for a some of the gruesomeness some of the scenes would bring (most notably in the Baxter Stockman episode, where he was literally falling apart) other than "it was edgy". Besides the first Ben 10 cartoon wasn't all that dark and people love it and for some of the points you made about AF and OV, for the most part they knew when to have jokes and when to get serious in screens.

    • @KangarooMonkey
      @KangarooMonkey Před rokem +6

      So… not really dark just kinda dim.
      The shows had plenty of dark moments in it, I just don’t think this is one of them.

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 Před rokem +3

      @@trentenogletree5898 yeah

  • @calvinmatthews1527
    @calvinmatthews1527 Před rokem +83

    Ben's threat to Driscoll was legendary man! Ben tells him some of his greatest feats with such an imposing demeanor plus it doesn't come off as braggy or condescending, he's just giving straight facts. Truly one of the most iconic moments in the franchise!

  • @nateds7326
    @nateds7326 Před rokem +43

    Seeing Ben just straight up threaten to murder the leader of the forever knights if he doesn't stop his alien extermination was spine chilling as a kid and still awesome now. It really made me realize how easily Ben could just waste his enemies if he wasn't a good person.

  • @brucesimmons5517
    @brucesimmons5517 Před rokem +378

    I have to admit, this arc fully redeemed the Forever Knights for me. Not a fan of them in the original series and certainly not UAF, but here they finally got interesting.

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 Před rokem +11

      Which makes their “redemption” kinda for nothing when Joseph reunites the remaining knight for the second half of Omniverse

    • @FMK03
      @FMK03 Před rokem +13

      @@axelnilsson5124 OV backtracking on UAF's lore is the curse that keeps on damning. It's similar to how the ones behind the ST constantly had opposing ideas of where the story would go despite the fact they had nothing to do with George's film hexalogy and the superior EU.

    • @reviewersuniverse
      @reviewersuniverse Před rokem +4

      Well, while I will say that I take SOME issues with the retcons that OV had against UAF, I don’t really think that the retcons are necessarily really knew when compared to the OG to UAF series, especially since there were a lot of major changes that UAF did, and some of the changes that OV had were simply more similar to the OG series. (And as a personal opinion, I feel like there are some changes in OV that I felt were for the better, so I don’t think it was entirely a problem)

    • @au7923
      @au7923 Před rokem +3

      @Axel Nilsson By omniverse, the forever knights should have been gone, but they weren't, which makes me question why the writers, or network, brought them back.

    • @au7923
      @au7923 Před rokem +1

      @Reviewers Universe I wouldn't say that. Both UAF and OV had bad retcon, and I wouldn't say that even some of the retcons were for the better, but let's not argue, and let's just respect our opinons.

  • @christianparrish3292
    @christianparrish3292 Před rokem +58

    Imagine in Driscoll's mind when he saw Upchuck again, he's thinking about two things. One, oh no, not again! And two, why does he look different?

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 Před rokem +24

      Would be great if the sight of Upchuck frightens Driscoll kinda like Scott with Fang in Total Drama

    • @rondo3800
      @rondo3800 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Maybe its a different artstyle

  • @WebofSpeedForceTS-FU
    @WebofSpeedForceTS-FU Před rokem +146

    Let's be honests: this is the third most serious moment of the character. First time was when he almost killed Kevin 11K, then when he was willing to do it in Ultimate Kevin arc, and finally, here he establishes that, despite he is not used to take a life, he is willing to do it if he looks it necessarily, showing how compromised he is to the cause of protecting others.

    • @JoshTalks11
      @JoshTalks11 Před rokem +5

      Killing out of self defense/to save innocents isn’t compromised morals that’s good morals imo

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před rokem +5

      Wouldn’t say Ben 10k nearly killing Kevin should be compared to the other two moments since that was out of anger.

  • @hert2458
    @hert2458 Před rokem +49

    Pierce's felt should've been acknowledged by the trio imo, felt so random to kill off one of your characters without them at least being noticed by your characters. Also, liked the scene of Ben threatening Driscoll and the Knights, honestly it makes sense for Ben to be pissed off

    • @cooper3814
      @cooper3814 Před rokem +4

      it does make an emotional thing for 2 seconds in Omniverses, in that ine scene where Kevin turns on Ben

  • @JAYDOG1337A
    @JAYDOG1337A Před rokem +33

    Maybe the reason Baoman(I think that's how it's spelled) didn't tell them immediately is because he was worried they were forever knights wearing ID masks to look like them trying to trick him.

  • @BeastForce141
    @BeastForce141 Před rokem +87

    Ben Tennyson speech at the end, lives with me rent free for years.

    • @ksoundkaiju9256
      @ksoundkaiju9256 Před rokem +7

      Mine pays me 50 a month

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 Před rokem +8

      he is good with speeches, we also see him motivating the people from Mad Ben's dimension to raise their voices and ofc we can't forget his speech to JT and Cash

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před rokem

      @@theamazingspooderman2697 wouldn't say his speech to jt and cash was all that impressive.

  • @Kikssune2
    @Kikssune2 Před rokem +158

    YES!!! Thank you, Team Ink Tank!! I'm fully supporting you all! Have a blessed day! ❤

  • @SpectacularSpidey670
    @SpectacularSpidey670 Před rokem +41

    i like the idea of Baumann having a twin brother who sometimes take care of his store, and unlike his other brother this one actually likes Ben, good thinking Kuro!

  • @drangc0bex119
    @drangc0bex119 Před rokem +73

    I kinda love the idea of 2 Baumann's just cause I can see the conversation they'd have like
    OV Baumann - "Ugh Tennyson was in again today...."
    AF Baumann - "Oh Benjamin, How is he? We should invite him and Max over for dinner."

    • @aktivniigomes1989
      @aktivniigomes1989 Před rokem +20

      yeah, I kinda like it too, and more add to that I think the OV Baumann is older brother and UA Baumann is young one, so that's why they act differently

  • @user-od2ld3jg9z
    @user-od2ld3jg9z Před rokem +40

    I think that regenerating normal, non-metal arm is harder, because there are a lot of different "materials". Bone, muscle, skin and etc.
    While metal is just metal

  • @rhyperiorhunter7339
    @rhyperiorhunter7339 Před rokem +52

    I know this is gonna be a hot take but I'm saying it anyway
    I liked that the forever knights were written to be so pathetic as their whole point is that the order had been corrupted by petty infighting among its factions, and had lost sight of their original goal, so when George reunites them it makes sense that they're a threat again as they have regained their original leader and purpose

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 Před rokem +3

      I guess there's some sense there. Still there rise to prominence isn't enough to balance out their fail streak

    • @rhyperiorhunter7339
      @rhyperiorhunter7339 Před rokem +4

      @@GreaterGrievobeast55 I understand but I do still think that the knights being so unbelievably pathetic was kind of the point

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 Před rokem +3

      @@rhyperiorhunter7339 i'm not sure of bringing old George was the plan the whole time. We know the alien dragons were gonna be more important then they ended up being so it seems not everything went their way.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před rokem +3

      @@rhyperiorhunter7339 pretty sure that was a retroactive justification for past episodes.

  • @summoner0005
    @summoner0005 Před rokem +22

    16:30 You're looking too closely to the US for parallels here. While yes there is some of that in this episode in terms of trying to get aliens to "go back to where they came from", this also has parallels to Nazi Germany. The way Boumen is sheltering the aliens from the persecution of the knights on a holy crusade more closely resembles of how Dutch and other European families would hide Jews from the Nazi soldiers.

    • @rogerkirby6883
      @rogerkirby6883 Před rokem +8

      That’s what I was thinking. This episode definitely had more of a holocaust vibe than illegal immigration

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před rokem +4

      To be fair he did acknowledge this happens around the world, not just the US.

  • @Nelsito99
    @Nelsito99 Před rokem +7

    21:32 interesting that we see the hologram for Upchuck before Loadstar and then Ben mistransforms into Upchuck

  • @theintrepid7583
    @theintrepid7583 Před rokem +26

    This would have been a great time to introduce Undertown. This episode also implies the public knows about aliens living on Earth, since Baumann's store casually stocks alien food. But this seems to have been soft retconned by season 3 of Omniverse.

  • @zeroknight1311
    @zeroknight1311 Před rokem +183

    You're right about Ben acting the way he does in this episode making sense. Since he had failed multiple times and seen great injustice regarding how Bradley was treated. So I kinda wish we seen more of Ben with this kind of Attitude in Omniverse. Since he can just threaten certain enemies who poses a great danger to Earth and those he cares about.
    I mean the Incursion Invasion of Earth that occurred in Omniverse wouldn't had happened if Ben threatened to destroy the entire species. Like he becomes one of the powerhouses inside of the Watch to prove a point by destroying a forth of the army with very little effort.
    And before anyone say anything, I don't condone violence. But for Ben, he would use it to get his point across.

    • @yashbjoshi12
      @yashbjoshi12 Před rokem +8

      @TheGlassesPro He kinda did that with incurseans in "Incursean invasion" arc in omniverse

    • @yashbjoshi12
      @yashbjoshi12 Před rokem +9

      He was going for that but Grandpa max interrupted him.

    • @Theokal3
      @Theokal3 Před rokem +10

      I honestly do not know if I would have gone that far personally. But I do agree OV needed at least a few dark moments like this.

    • @yashbjoshi12
      @yashbjoshi12 Před rokem +6

      @@Theokal3 It had many dark moments tbh

    • @Theokal3
      @Theokal3 Před rokem +1

      @@yashbjoshi12 Such as?

  • @strongerthanever2039
    @strongerthanever2039 Před rokem +28

    24:26 If I remember correctly taking your helmet off symbolises readiness for death in the knight code, and they are knights after all. So he basically was like "Ok. I either kill Tennyson here or I die trying!"

    • @frederick0709
      @frederick0709 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Wow...That's really interesting! Cool fact!

    • @strongerthanever2039
      @strongerthanever2039 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@frederick0709 Thanks! I'm glad to see somebody liked it!

  • @akdrzllol1698
    @akdrzllol1698 Před rokem +56

    Not even just this moment but every time Ben gets serious it’s always great to see. Even in og I feel like they always handled the serious scenes well🤝🏾

  • @t.v.rockwell4504
    @t.v.rockwell4504 Před rokem +24

    I say that Kevin can't regenerate in his normal body, only when he's absorbed something like metal, wood, or anything. He needs to be actively using his power for it to work. So if Kevin had his hand cut off when he's in his normal state, his hand is gone. If he gets it cut off while he's using his power and goes back, it's gone, it'll be a stub. As for the removed hand, since it's not attacked to Kevin, it'll revert back to normal, so he can't just pick it up and reattach it.

  • @milesbradshaw6643
    @milesbradshaw6643 Před rokem +18

    I'm going with Kuro's head-canon of UAF Baumann and OV Baumann being siblings rather than the same person.

  • @wijinsama
    @wijinsama Před rokem +29

    Breakdowns are officially a way for Kuro to open talk about his thoughts about the Ben 10 franchise, and I love it.

  • @DemonArshan
    @DemonArshan Před rokem +36

    Sir Geoge was an amazing character, Him dying on screen was like WOW CN would never allow such, Props to Ultimate Alien crew for pushing boundries.

  • @acmeanvil3022
    @acmeanvil3022 Před rokem +19

    Good episode and a much needed return-to-form for the Forever Knights. I'm definitely not a fan however of how they brushed over Pierce getting murdered, not even acknowledging up until the Weapon XI two-parter nearly a hundred episodes later. It's also kind of confusing how George's first order was to wage war against all aliens on Earth, but later on they paint him as a hero who even knows Azmuth.

  • @yaminogame
    @yaminogame Před rokem +50

    The man, the myth, the legend has returned for more breakdowns 😊

  • @guilhermemarinho9861
    @guilhermemarinho9861 Před rokem +27

    The Mr.Baumann retcon is honestly the best in the series because his reactions to Ben wrecking his shop are always fun to me

    • @kermitgotthesickkicks4265
      @kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Před rokem +7

      It's a Denis the menace reference and it works. Dude would've been boring if he loved ben.

    • @pjdianalan7934
      @pjdianalan7934 Před rokem +3

      I honestly believe that the Baumann in UA and the one in OV are different dudes, relatives(maybe brothers).

  • @harryblocks
    @harryblocks Před rokem +17

    My head canon on Kevin's "Material Regeneration" is it'll leave a flesh stub if he becomes normal since it was a clean smooth wound.
    He wouldn't be able to regenerate directly from his base human form since I'm guessing the "Absorbing DNA makes you crazy" or just it's cause how complex making a new arm is rather than just simply make "more metal" which is a make workable material to use.
    Plus it'll probably be painful to regenerate new flesh so being made of another material makes it more comfortable to shapeshift etc

  • @guymannargit
    @guymannargit Před rokem +72

    I see Ben calling the Ultimatrix a weapon as being more fitting seeing as it was originally created for combat whilst the actual Omnitrices were tools meant for peace, but yeah, I also agree with Kuro’s assessment too. Threatening a person with a “peace tool” is a whole lot less impactful than threatening them with “the most powerful weapon in the universe”.

    • @Mohamad_49Gs
      @Mohamad_49Gs Před rokem +5

      the omnitrix is still a weapon regardless of its intent pretending it's not a weapon is just foolish

    • @rehanakhund2578
      @rehanakhund2578 Před rokem +3

      @@Mohamad_49Gs is mayonnaise a weopeon?

    • @Mohamad_49Gs
      @Mohamad_49Gs Před rokem

      @@rehanakhund2578
      What do you think ?

    • @rehanakhund2578
      @rehanakhund2578 Před rokem +2

      @@Mohamad_49Gs you can spray it over someone's eyes so yes I guess.

    • @Deity_devil
      @Deity_devil Před 7 měsíci

      The ultimatrix is part weapon part omnitrix it still keeps the original purpose of the Omnitrix but has an evolutionary feature used for battles

  • @piko8434
    @piko8434 Před rokem +26

    During AF and UA, when Ben wanted to transform into a specific alien, the chances of that alien's hologram first appearing happened a lot. Ironically, when Ben wanted to change in Lodestar but Upchuck's hologram appeared first but he still changed into Upchuck. Kuro, have you ever wondered why the alien Ben wants appear first? Due you think the Omnitrix and Ultrimatrix is like connected to his brain (thought patterns) during AF/UA?

  • @crazebanana6432
    @crazebanana6432 Před rokem +17

    I feel like, if kevin wasn’t transformed, kevin wouldn’t be able to heal his hand back. Mostly because of how complicated the human body is with all the muscle,bone,bloodvessels, blood the nails ect
    But if he transformed to a material he’d be able to regen, especially with him being one element right through

  • @neekogregory1885
    @neekogregory1885 Před rokem +10

    Feel weird watching this on a Saturday morning after so long

  • @Neo232100
    @Neo232100 Před rokem +20

    This episode makes me think of a Superman story arc called Superman and the Legion of Superheroes where we find out in the 31st century that there has being a massive uptick in xenophobia and hatefulness towards aliens due to some bad guys perverting Superman's history, whereas there it was depicted as some kind of scheme. But later Legion stories in that era did showcase that even if it turned out to be a lie there was still a large issue of racism towards the species in the United Planets. Hell they even use the phrase "Earth is for Earthlings." And considering that the story started out in 2007 and Dwayne McDuffie did work on several DC books there might have been some crossover of ideas.

    • @Ale_LSH
      @Ale_LSH Před rokem +2

      That one is a fantastic story with incredible art, one of the best the Legion of Super-Heroes has to offer imo. It was written by Geoff Johns and drawn by Gary Frank, happened in issues #858 to #863 of Action Comics published between 2007 and 2008. Highly recommend it.

  • @FirestoneAnimation
    @FirestoneAnimation Před rokem +13

    Honestly I like the threatening form of Ben. His current state of mind if "I'm freaking sick of this bs so you either quit it or I can make it short and easy."

  • @dohickey7184
    @dohickey7184 Před rokem +5

    12:03 Kuro here must be part pyronite cuz holy shit man that burn was savage

  • @Rose-yx6jq
    @Rose-yx6jq Před rokem +9

    Frick yeah!!! First full breakdown of the year! And it's forever knights episode. This is one of my favorite episodes of UA. Because of the scene from the far right of the thumbnail.

  • @christianparrish3292
    @christianparrish3292 Před rokem +8

    Breakdowns live again! Also, good morning everyone.

  • @Blitz_Blazer
    @Blitz_Blazer Před rokem +8

    It would've made the episode sad if Helen went to look for Pierce, and called The Trio when she found his body, but as its a kid show they can't show a dead body

  • @christianparrish3292
    @christianparrish3292 Před rokem +8

    I love the line that lodestar said to Kevin. I didn't tell you to absorb metal.

  • @starcatcher9699
    @starcatcher9699 Před rokem +10

    A part of me wonders if, instead of the fight scene, the trio got a call regarding Pierce's death in the original plans for the episode and that was what prompted them to start investigating the knights but for whatever reason they didn't go through with it like maybe the scene was too dark or something. I could see that happening and we still would've gotten Ben's speech at the end there. Heck, it could've hit even harder if we had that scene.

  • @hankunis2051
    @hankunis2051 Před rokem +7

    You should have a counter in omniverse whenever Ben damages Mr. Baumans or pacmar's properties.

  • @TheEagleWithNoName
    @TheEagleWithNoName Před rokem +5

    Kuro; the VA for sir George is still Alive.
    Peter Renaday is still doing VA work with his latest being Archer in 2017.
    I think the 2011 was his wife who passed away.

  • @CheezsterYT
    @CheezsterYT Před rokem +3

    Ben: ULTIMATE SPIDERMONKEY!!!
    Kuro: Oh look, Squire's here!

  • @anotherjason
    @anotherjason Před rokem +6

    Ah, the iconic "I'm Ben Tenyson" speech. Never saw this until it resurged in popularity after airing, But i'm glad i got to see it regardless

  • @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149

    Imma be real, I just think futuristic knights are sick. Glad they kinda picked themselves up in this arc.

    • @christianparrish3292
      @christianparrish3292 Před rokem +3

      @TheGlassesPro is there a reason why you keep posting the same comments?

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 Před rokem +2

      @TheGlassesPro the average citizen doesn't have to deal with Alien BS commonly enough to be that bold. The forever knights also have the charisma of an emotionally stunted hermit crab. No way they'd get an average joe wielding sword and shield, not even george... *especially* not George!

  • @christianparrish3292
    @christianparrish3292 Před rokem +9

    Yeah, who had the idea to make Enoch's mouth move? It was so weird.

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 Před rokem +3

      I think it’s supposed to be a different mask because there are masks where the mouth moves when your actual mouth moves

    • @levievil9220
      @levievil9220 Před 10 dny

      @@axelnilsson5124but why would he change his mask

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 Před 10 dny

      @@levievil9220 maybe it was disposed of?

  • @mentalmandolorian5723
    @mentalmandolorian5723 Před rokem +8

    I don't think Kevin could regenerate outside of a material form, because he's always gone insane after absorbing organic matter/DNA up to this point, and (in my head atleast) it makes sense to me that if he tried this, it might work but over time I thunk he would slowly go mad again

  • @LimeImpastaTheChild
    @LimeImpastaTheChild Před rokem +5

    Every breakdown is a Time to lay down and eat popcorn while watching- Quote inspired by Kevin Levin

  • @JOHN-DUBS
    @JOHN-DUBS Před rokem +11

    I just watched Omniverse and now I'm dying to see these breakdowns

  • @kurt50alien
    @kurt50alien Před rokem +5

    13:25 The new thing reminds me a bit of Rex firing Ben out of the Slam Cannon from Heroes United. In terms of one character launching another through the enemy with a lot force. Maybe that's where the idea for the new thing came from.

  • @J1P2K
    @J1P2K Před rokem +3

    @TheInkTank Another air force base near St. Louis is Scott Airforce Base near Shiloh and O'Fallon, IL.
    It's about a 30-minute drive to and from the base, and the base was founded in 1917.
    The base was featured in the 2018 Rampage movie that started The Rock.

  • @kikyobi2573
    @kikyobi2573 Před rokem +4

    18:42 did Kuro just say enhanced jumping? The 5yl wiki is gonna have a field day with this one.

  • @Door3234
    @Door3234 Před rokem +3

    when I heard the episode title I just went "Holy shit it's THAT episode"

  • @ArtTheGaleWind
    @ArtTheGaleWind Před rokem +14

    I honestly love the story of Jeorge and the dragon is implemented into the Ben 10 lore with it's own unique ben 10 twist to the original tale, like ever since I got into the Fate series I started to love franchises that imcorporate historic figures or events into their lore in a way that makes sense, and that made me love Jeorge so much more as a result

  • @Lizardon1012
    @Lizardon1012 Před rokem +8

    I love when Ben gets serious and threatening. In the episode where he fights the Plumber kids you realize how terrifying Ben would be as a villain or anti-hero. Often times it's shown he's way more intelligent than he seems. I honestly believe he'd be scarier than Albedo.
    While the reason they were restrained is unknown, the escape choreography shows how skilled they can be and further emphasizes how inconsistent it's being portrayed.
    I hate how Pierce dies but it's all just shoved under the rug. Even in Omniverse it's barely mentioned. It would've been better if instead of Argit, who barely does anything, Pierce's death would've been the catalyst to the plot. Also, I wish Gwen would have reacted to Kevin's hand being cut off

    • @endrendstudios7665
      @endrendstudios7665 Před rokem +2

      No way the scam bots got to Ink Tank too

    • @an-animal-lover
      @an-animal-lover Před rokem +1

      @@endrendstudios7665 is there a pattern to be recognized Like the more popular/well known a channel is, the more likely the scam bots will be all over it?

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM Před rokem +4

    Happy they're back. Been catching the mini ones too

  • @tonigallagher3064
    @tonigallagher3064 Před rokem +3

    4:53 Peter Reneday is actually still alive. He only stopped voicing in 2011.

  • @ninjadandy9166
    @ninjadandy9166 Před rokem +1

    Yesss finally I have been waiting so long! Thank you! I know you guys have worked hard and needed the break! Please keep us updated

  • @wheresprototype3507
    @wheresprototype3507 Před rokem +3

    The only time I think or at least I remember Pierce dying being mentioned was by Kevin in Omniverse during the Servantis 2 parter

  • @bensonabernathy4664
    @bensonabernathy4664 Před rokem +4

    I would really like if you would actually do a full breakdown of the episode where the ultimates gain sentience. I liked the direction that the episode was going with.

  • @CrazyJabberwock
    @CrazyJabberwock Před rokem +4

    The rabbit hole goes deeper, could kevin use his powers to give himself additional limbs?

  • @Anime-117
    @Anime-117 Před rokem +1

    25:28
    Careful Ben, you're starting to sound like a certain Ninja

    • @Anime-117
      @Anime-117 Před rokem

      @@xMangosInTrees buzz off bot

  • @januhelj3796
    @januhelj3796 Před rokem +1

    This is my favourite series on youtube and has been for a long time, it helped me reconect with mu childhood favourite show, thank you!!

  • @bobbyahmad5197
    @bobbyahmad5197 Před rokem +8

    It’s very sad to see pierce go….. I wish there would’ve been an omniverse episode of Helen going on a rampage with the knights and then Ben rook and even the helpers and max try to help her and reassure her

    • @bobbyahmad5197
      @bobbyahmad5197 Před rokem +2

      @TheGlassesPro I know but I was thinking of Chadwick’s faction and then he captures her then the team rescues her

    • @bobbyahmad5197
      @bobbyahmad5197 Před rokem +2

      @TheGlassesPro it was three but yeah

    • @bobbyahmad5197
      @bobbyahmad5197 Před rokem +1

      @TheGlassesPro bengeance is mine in the beginning with water hazard

    • @bobbyahmad5197
      @bobbyahmad5197 Před rokem

      @TheGlassesPro and there you go

    • @SakuraLovesong
      @SakuraLovesong Před rokem +1

      Return to Forever, “Chadwhack” built an alien genocide machine that nearly murdered millions of aliens (including Rook) but before it could go off, Jury Rigg ultimately rewired it before it to turn Harangue (who was in cahoots with the knights) into an alien.

  • @parttimelazy4593
    @parttimelazy4593 Před rokem +8

    I wonder how many villains realize that the reason Ben hasn't just snapped them away is because he's a good man.

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 Před rokem +1

      Same can be said about Spider-Man considering the Superior Spider-Man story arc

  • @AwesomeSaucerMC
    @AwesomeSaucerMC Před rokem +5

    Visually I always assumed that Ultimate Spidermonkey was just bending the metal of Driscoll’s armor. If it remained as permanent damage through the rest of the episode I think it’s be clearer

    • @nenmaster5218
      @nenmaster5218 Před rokem

      If you care for Video-Essays and/or Analysis like this here, try Some More News, Madvocate, or Jay Exci.

  • @TheLastSpider-Man
    @TheLastSpider-Man Před 4 měsíci +1

    22:30 Kevin being able to use these broken pieces of those handcuffs to make a full coat of armor is a bigger stretch than when he used one shard of taydenite to make a full coat in Omniverse

  • @sumeracarnatia6997
    @sumeracarnatia6997 Před rokem +3

    NRG: I challenge you to a duel. *detransforms*
    Driscoll: Wha- What was the point of that?
    Ben: I just wanted to hear myself say that with that voice.

  • @yourmum7662
    @yourmum7662 Před rokem +4

    I've watched every breakdown and loved every one been around since before.

  • @garpogods8323
    @garpogods8323 Před rokem +4

    15:31 "very small thing too"
    *Zooms in on her chest*

  • @Deathwarrior115
    @Deathwarrior115 Před rokem +5

    This is the most fun thing on youtube tbh

  • @sdbzfan1
    @sdbzfan1 Před rokem +6

    To me ben saying the dual has to be with honor wasnt for integrety but to shove the knighs hypocrisy back in their face, they claim honor yet non of them back it up when it matters but ben plays by their rules and still wins showing that no matter what option he takes he will win even when not trying to kill
    Also the point of honor was no killing and one on one so ultimates are still honorable

  • @kingzone512
    @kingzone512 Před rokem +2

    (Ben 10 playlist)
    Brawn:
    Speed:
    Brain:
    Flyer:
    Water:
    Fazer/Invisible:
    Durable:
    Elemental:
    Regenerative:
    Miscellaneous:
    Brawn: Humungasaur
    Speed: Jetray
    Brain: Grey Matter
    Flyer: Big Chill
    Water: Ripjaw
    Fazer/Invisible: Ghostfreak
    Durable: Diamondhead
    Elemental: Heatblast
    Regenerative: Swampfire
    Miscellaneous: Feedback
    When I mean Water I mean Best fighter in Water.
    (Underrated Aliens)
    In my opinion underrated aliens…
    1. Goop
    2. Bloxx
    3. Armodrillo
    4. Frankenstrike
    5. Chromastone
    6. Upgrade
    7. Pesky
    8. Stinkfly (Not crappy Reboot)
    9. Toepick
    10. Worse

  • @kingzone512
    @kingzone512 Před rokem +3

    Here is a New Alien idea: it's a Subspecies Alien of Pyronite
    Alien Name: Iceblast
    Species: Cryonites
    Planet: Cryos
    Power: Cryonesis,
    Weakness: Blue & White Stars & Pyronites
    Backstory: Here how I got a Pyronite decided to explore another planet found a Meteorite Planet that goes in circles their planet but bout 1,000,000 miles away where it's so cold that even they can't melt it. As they stayed on the planet more of their species came over years they evolved losing their fire power and gaining ice powers. Changing their species and Planet/Meteorite to Cryonites and Cryos. As time did go on the Cryos and Pyros started to hate each other and started a 3,006 year war until they came down to neutral agreement to stay away from each other. Cryos do have one specie that at times come to live their Big Chill species.
    Ultimate Form: He has been in a Metal container cause he is so cold he freezes even fire he basically ice age possible to might even freeze the sun it's not 100% Confirmed tho but he has like Darth Vader breathing but like Big Chill his breath shows in his ultimate form.
    Looks Normally: Looks like Heatblast but Rocks are Thick Ice, and Fire part is Thinish ice.

  • @Benjamin-jk1bs
    @Benjamin-jk1bs Před rokem +2

    I love the changing of forever knights

  • @retroforager
    @retroforager Před rokem +5

    I literally did not register the fact that pierce was actually K-ed off when I first watched this. But all the kill talk in the second half made me rethink that.

  • @rainbow_vader
    @rainbow_vader Před rokem +3

    Two whole years already? Feels like yesterday damn

  • @bensonabernathy4664
    @bensonabernathy4664 Před rokem +2

    Glad the breakdowns are back.

  • @strongerthanever2039
    @strongerthanever2039 Před rokem +3

    21:17 I think it's just like with his other powers. He most certainly can't do something like this right now, like he wasn't able to regen at all in the past, but maybe in the future? Who knows?

  • @treytheriot825
    @treytheriot825 Před rokem +4

    I honestly didn’t think Pierce was dead when I saw this episode

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 Před rokem +3

      I didn’t realize it until Omniverse and wiki research where I found out he died here

  • @izaan5872
    @izaan5872 Před rokem +1

    i just got back innto ben 10 and i am addicted to your breakdowns so goddamn much

  • @avch1209
    @avch1209 Před rokem +3

    8:53 If there he had known that his power comes from peanuts it would have been epic to see him in his giant form

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 Před rokem +1

      That’s obviously not something that they thought of until Omniverse

  • @altersol7255
    @altersol7255 Před rokem +2

    I heard your idea for Kevin's powers and would like to propose a balance since I know someone is going to say something. What if he can take the energy he absorbs and uses that as energy for his regeneration but can later push it even further, like optimize his base body without external material or DNA and can use what he's stockpiled for variations on ranged offense like energy slashes. I don't know if he's done that, I may be forgetting, but it can help Gwen since she's mostly ranged and compliment Ben to keep the enemy in front of him or set a target up for Ben to hit.
    For the close range he could charge and restructure his muscles first before adding material to strengthen himself further. Thinking practically Osmosians are like an imperfect omnitrix so Kevin using that idea as a basis for how he fights could compliment most of Ben's fighting styles. I could be asking and wishing too much but the amount of growth we see him go through makes me think he still has much further to go in term of what he can do with his powers.

  • @youtubeuniversity3638
    @youtubeuniversity3638 Před rokem +4

    23:38 I could see it more as "There's enough knights that winning this fight, even as thoroughly and effortlessly as possible, isn't enough. We need to convince them via their own screwed up moral system that we DESERVE to not hsve to deal with them anymore."

  • @golisobro5296
    @golisobro5296 Před rokem +2

    23:33 i think when ben says he has to win with honor, he isn’t speaking about his own morals or beliefs but instead that the forever knights might not respect the fight if he doesn’t win with honor

  • @danevisser1927
    @danevisser1927 Před rokem +4

    Honestly I just wish they'd focus a bit more on the aftermath of his death

  • @enelem64
    @enelem64 Před rokem +5

    I have an idea. How about you make redesigns of Kevin's mutations. I'd love to see your take on them as well as some new ones like if he absorbed the ultimate forms of your redesigns. Also, ultimate forms for Aggregor's aliens.

  • @mrfancypants3423
    @mrfancypants3423 Před rokem +3

    I would have liked to see Drisckle’s Forever King power armour return, especially after he takes full command of the Knights