Behringer Pro VS Firmware Update! Does it fix the problems?
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Fresh on the news of the latest firmware update for the Pro VS Mini, Greg looks at the new features implemented and if it now sounds like a real SCI Prophet VS.
Is it better? Is it the same? Is it meh! Lets find out
00:00 Introduction
00:25 Why the update 2 weeks after launch?
02:35 The new sound engines
04:12 How do they sound?
06:48 Master Tuning
07:20 New LFO Waveforms(?)
09:42 Additional Features
12:00 Sounds
15:01 Final thoughts
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They fixed an issue with the frequency adjustment by semitone. The old firmware didn't retrigger the oscillator when you adjusted its semitone. Now it does retrigger the oscillator.
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Behringer are actually pretty good at listening to customers and making changes. I like that about the big B.
The new firmware make this synth so worth the money..
I thought it was good value before but this puts it on a whole new level. 😁
Sample & Hold was in the original firmware, Square waves on the LFOs are new with this firmware.
Great update! Thank you. Anxiously awaiting the arrival of this in Canada :)
Hope you receive yours soon. I'm still not sure why the UK seem to have got the first batch though. Share your musical endeavours when you get yours. 😊
Hi thanks for this video. Do you know if the update contains Hold function for the arpegiator?
Great little video, thanks for sharing.
Would have been interesting to hear some more sounds with the different modes, couldn't really tell if the original VS character sound is present or not.
Its great!! love it
what is a good stand alone power adapter for this unit?
I don't have the Pro VS (although tempting!), but I do have the JT-4000. I'm more hopeful now that Behringer might release a similar firmware update for the JT-4000. Definitely would love to have the Sample and Hold Waveform on the LFO, as well as the ability to modulate the filter frequency with the LFO. Love these tiny inexpensive synths, just fun to experiment with.
Fingers crossed! I do think the Pro VS offers better value for money than the JT 4000 and I thoroughly recommend it.
Great new stuff. Though, a LFO "ramp" in my world is a reversed Sawtooth, but I'm nitpicking. :)
@skinnyhastrup4614 I agree. I'm glad they added it especially the S&H. It's a proper little beast now.
very cool and fast update needless to say. but, i want so badly the unison
Why are the single notes doubling up when recording in the sequencer..? I've noticed this on several Pro Vs Minis
There's two modes iirc. One chops the held notes over the steps it covers. The other just records the first step. Don't hold me to it. Mind hasn't arrived yet.
Still no key hold or latch for the Arpeggio
Nice one. Love my pro vs mini. Got big problems with my JT-4000 though, to start with it refused to update firmware, even though synth tool told me there was an update available. Now my iPads and my laptops refuse to recognise it exists. My laptops say unknown usb device isn’t functioning right or something of the sort and my iPads refuse to even do that, a few days ago it was working fine with my iPads. So I can only use it with the capacitive keyboard it has built in. And before any asks yes I did a factory reset, which achieved nothing.
Have you updated the synth tribe software. I had to update mine via my Mac. The iPad version of synth tribe does not see it but the latest computer version does.
@@madgear303 I bought a new one that arrived today. And after using my windows ten laptop instead of my windows 7 managed to update the new one. I’m sending the old one back. Just bought a kobol I’m testing now. First impressions it’s very good, especially sweeping the 7 oscillator waveforms with the LFO.
Thanks for the “update”. I hope they fix the filter on the jt-4000 too.
The update here has worked on the oscillators, I don’t believe any changes have been made to the filter as that is an analog component that cannot be changed with a firmware update. So I think the JT 4000s filter is what it is. Although I’m sure improvements could be made elsewhere with that little synth.
@@madgear303 they fixed the filter on the pro-800, so I’m sure than can do something with the jt-4000. I’m glad they updated to pro vs mini. It’s a great little synth for only $99
I own a JT-4000 and there is no problem with the filter on this one. What would that be?
@@music-ic6tg my cutoff and resonance barely have any effect on the sound.
@@teamphil Press Filter Button then scroll to VCF AMT (envelope amount) parameter using SEL encoder, decrease it then you will see your cutoff and reso VR will have control. 0 is full Vr control, 50 half vr half envelope 99 is 100% envelope control. This is normal behaviour.
How did you update the firmware? I can't find it on the Behringer site.
You need to install their updater software on a PC and connect it to the Pro VS Mini.
I have the Behringer Pro VS mini. Am thinking that is the same one from the video.. i saw a video that said Pro VS Soul. Is that the same one? Am trying to update the firmware but the App only shows ver 1.1.1. How do I get version 1.1.5? Or at least 1.1.2 loaded?
I've done hard A/B comparisons with my mini against my original vs. I'm hoping this new firmware address the most aggregious ones. (Bad oscillator wave editing >loop clicks, and lack of aliasing)
Let us know!
link or it didint' happen! :)
Vintage mode is like real vs..it aliases in the lower octaves like the actual vs does.
Are the Lfo’s syncable to midi clock? And is there lfo delay?
Probably not. Most synths in the 80s didn't have this feature.
Nice, but it still doesn't pick up midi sustain signals
Reduce it to one osc/vector. And open the filter wide. That belies any oscillator wave issues (bad cycle editing, different wave shape >than vs og, or aliasing >aka sample/bit rate)
I think it’s sounding better after this update -much cleaner and I love the dirtier sounds in the vintage setting -no probs updating on windows 10
Now my pro vs mini refuses to update. SYNTHTRIBE tells me there is an update but when I try to perform the update it says it failed. And by screen on the pro vs mini says Bootloader and I have to disconnect the usb and re connect as the power button fails to work. Anyone got any ideas?
I had the same problem, but it worked after I disconnected the USB and rebooted.
@@lambd01d have tried that maybe 10 + times and still get the same resaults. Are you on windows or Mac, I’m on windows 7 wondering if my so is to blame, although I updated several other behringer synths in the last week with no problem.
@@kentaccordionistWow, Windows 7, still keeping the faith?!
@@lundsweden windows 7 has always done me right in the past. It’s just the JT 4000 and the Pro VS Mini that wont update. When I try with the JT 4000 it says one of the devices connected to this computer has malfunctioned and windows does not recognise it. Even my iPad won’t recognise it now. Yet used as a stand alone it still functions…
@@kentaccordionistI doesn't work with Windows 7, only 10 or Mac. I tried it on my Windows 7 first, but nothing! Worked on 10.
Can you glide in this version? :C
Be wary when updating. I updated it and forgot to save the 10 patches I had made. All gone.
Yeah that would be a good idea. Although the synthtribe app is good for saving and backing up patches. I guess there will be a new audience of people using hardware synths for their first time and not know about sysex dumps and saving synth patches.
1 SYNC-OUT OR IN ??
Still three months away from available in the us and apparently sold out already everywhere in Europe
Yesterday I ordered mine at Andertons and it is on the way
Mine too 😇
Could someone explain me if it's a good idea to buy the pro vs mini instead of the Korg volca key or FM?
Totally depends on what type of sound you’re after.
Lots of CZcams demos for all three 👍
They are all quite different synths so will have their own sound. 1 uses FM synthesis, 1 uses Vector synthesis and the volca keys use’s subtractive synthesis. Having owned all 3 I sold the volca keys. The Volca keys is the easiest to program but probably the most limiting in its capabilities. The range of sounds capable from a FM synth is incredible but it is quite a difficult synthesis method to get your head around. The quality of the Pro VS and how it sounds is very good. It can cover most sound bases and if I was to only have 1 it would be this especially if I was new to synthesis and you wanted an interesting synth. Go look at some videos and see which one you like the sound of the best.
All three of them are no good!
Cheap plastic junk that sounds like cheap plastic junk!
I would recommend the Roland S1! It's a real instrument and sounds a thousand times better!
The case is better made and is really worth the money 😇
@@dingdong7562 - the Volca Keys sounds like an analog synth, because it is one. It’s cheap but doesn’t sound cheap.
But I’d agree with you about the S1, probably the best option. I used to have an SH101, so if the bass on the S1 is anything like that I’d be tempted.
@@dingdong7562 The S1 might be "better" than the volca keys but it's a totally different sound to the FM and the VS so your comment is moot. The S1 would be useless if you wanted a vector synth or the FM sound. It would also be useless if you wanted a real analog synth with the filter from a MiniKorg-700S. It's fine i guess if you wanted a cheap modelled SH101.
It's brilliant, but I wish it had portamento.
It probably does- buried in some menu.
@Andronicus2007 Unfortunately, it doesn't.
So for those like me that are asking: Where is the firmware update FILE on the website? Behringer has hidden the file in their servers by forcing you to download and use a WINDOWS or MACOS version of the SYNTHTRIBE software that will "fetch" the firmware for you through the specialized program and update the synth for you. ALOT of manufacturers are doing that now forcing you to either use WINDOWS or MACOS to update your gear. If you are using an IPAD, a LINUX or UNIX based computer or device like a raspberry pi, or some such, you are now SOL.. Windows 10 or MAC OS latest or bust. I just got my unit today and noticed I can not place a firmware file in the synth in a file browser on my Linux machine and press a combination of buttons on my synth while powering on to "enter" firmware update mode.. Some synths still allow the end user to do that, but most like Behringer and Arturia and Korg do not.. So if you want to back up your old firmware or have a back up file, you will need to know where the app is downloading the file temporarily during the update download process, but even then.. how will YOU apply it, without the specialized app? Otherwise, great synths!
Beringer, where's the MS-1 MK2?
I think you’ll know when it’s available. I’ll be interested in knowing of those who bought the ms1 that will buy the mk 2. I know I won’t be.
Oh...it has problems...I just ordered one
I want the glide..🤢