I'm compelled to say that it's really rare that people like you come on CZcams to talk that is relevant, not nonsensical going on these days. Really appreciated 👍
I really enjoyed how you defined the cannon at first. Oftentimes people aren't sharing enough details about the methods they used or the ways they define them. Videos like this make me want to start my MA in CompLit but I have to finish my teaching degree in history & german first 😅
You are probably the only person on CZcams who I would find some confidence in doing this because you understand the context of canon making and where it is valuable and where it is not (so far as what I’ve watched your content). I do have a bit of a reservation about the tiers because one of the worst aspects of canon to me is the dependence on it as a form of evaluation and readers being unable to describe or question why something is good or bad but merely taking it on assumption and that kind of reinforces those attitudes but I do understand why you are using it.
When you look into the pioneering work Gilbert Highet did in the Anglo-American tradition, it is unmistakable, the interconnectedness of the scholarly pursuit involved in compiling a literary canon and a Cold War preoccupation to strategically stave off the so-called 'red menace' presented by Soviet Communism. Besides being a classicist, he was a spy for the Brits. I find that fascinating! 🤓
Very impressive. For many years, decades actually, I have enjoyed reading poetry anthologies. I very much look forward to seeing the various canons you have developed as they appear. I think they will be a great contribution to English language poetry.
I don’t mind another canon that brings your bias; I suppose that shows itself in the selection of particular poems included, as those did not have to be the ones from the 16. Good job! 😅
Great approach really looking forward to seeing the lists. Btw what about the Oxford book of 20th century English verse compiled by Philip Larkin. Selection was a bit idiosyncratic but he really did a lot of research for it...
I'm guessing there are no women in the Golden canon, since they would have rarely been included in the earliest anthologies. Thank you at least for broadening your survey to be sure to include them in your more all-encompassing list.
I'm compelled to say that it's really rare that people like you come on CZcams to talk that is relevant, not nonsensical going on these days. Really appreciated 👍
I really enjoyed how you defined the cannon at first. Oftentimes people aren't sharing enough details about the methods they used or the ways they define them.
Videos like this make me want to start my MA in CompLit but I have to finish my teaching degree in history & german first 😅
I’m bouncing with joy! I’m so excited that you’re taking your valuable time to build these canons! Thank You so much.
Love your passion for poetry. Thank you for all the extensive work
You are probably the only person on CZcams who I would find some confidence in doing this because you understand the context of canon making and where it is valuable and where it is not (so far as what I’ve watched your content). I do have a bit of a reservation about the tiers because one of the worst aspects of canon to me is the dependence on it as a form of evaluation and readers being unable to describe or question why something is good or bad but merely taking it on assumption and that kind of reinforces those attitudes but I do understand why you are using it.
Yeah, fair point. The value in the canons is the provision of a map or guide. I don't favor the hierarchy of value.
When you look into the pioneering work Gilbert Highet did in the Anglo-American tradition, it is unmistakable, the interconnectedness of the scholarly pursuit involved in compiling a literary canon and a Cold War preoccupation to strategically stave off the so-called 'red menace' presented by Soviet Communism. Besides being a classicist, he was a spy for the Brits. I find that fascinating! 🤓
Very impressive. For many years, decades actually, I have enjoyed reading poetry anthologies. I very much look forward to seeing the various canons you have developed as they appear. I think they will be a great contribution to English language poetry.
I don’t mind another canon that brings your bias; I suppose that shows itself in the selection of particular poems included, as those did not have to be the ones from the 16. Good job! 😅
Great approach really looking forward to seeing the lists. Btw what about the Oxford book of 20th century English verse compiled by Philip Larkin. Selection was a bit idiosyncratic but he really did a lot of research for it...
Thank you so much
love this, thank you
Wow for the dedication, and gratitude for the service this provides to poetry lovers, and, hopefully, those who poo-poo poetry these days.
I'm guessing there are no women in the Golden canon, since they would have rarely been included in the earliest anthologies. Thank you at least for broadening your survey to be sure to include them in your more all-encompassing list.
@cymonie1 There are several women in the Foundations Canon, the Golden, and the Silver!
@@closereadingpoetry That's wonderful! I'm looking forward to looking them over.
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What about Paglia’s Break Blow Burn, is it worth it?
Sometimes you could add subtitles in Portuguese to your videos
Only four centuries and a single geography?
Well, the UK and the US. These were the major geographies where English literature was studied as a field for much of the past.
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