[4K] The Witcher 2: Xbox One X Enhanced vs PC vs Xbox 360 Comparison!
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- čas přidán 7. 03. 2018
- Microsoft's X-enhanced magic gets great results from one of last-gen's most challenging ports... but how does the 4K experience compare to the PC original running as close to maxed out as we can take it?
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Game still looks good for being 7 years old.
It really does. But I don't like the animations, even when I played through it in time for Witcher 3 the game looked good in stills but kind of jarring in motion. Just a personal preference though.
It's the same age as me
Alot of older games still look good.
It's a great looking game, primarily the shadow dithering, and inconsistent dialogue animations as low points, TW2 is superb looking.
I guess you have not seen BF3
I really really really want to see them do this with the Mass Effect Trilogy. That would be amazing!
You can do that on Pc. Modders released a texture pack as well, so it looks up to date.
System Shock we already know that. The post was about it being on consoles
I know, just mentioned it.
Man, deadspace trilogy, Mass effect Trilogy and Red Dead Redemption would be Golden Glory!!
I hope all games will support enhanced version love my Xbox One X.
As a PS4 owner I look at the X's backwards compatibility with envy.
OwtDaftUK it's really sad that Sony isn't doing their customers this service. A huge library of old PS3 and 2 games are at their finger tips, and they aren't taking advantage.
Cause, Sony want you to buy new games and make them more rich.Cause of this, I can't see ps5 supporting ps4 games and hardware.
I don't think it's possible for them to do PS3 because of the CPU but the fact they won't even let you play your PS2 games I think is a bit cheap.
OwtDaftUK if the Xbox one can play 360 games then the PS4 can play PS3 games, I don't think the CPU has anything to do with back compat.
j.k. 123 I guarantee you that people would totally pay to buy PS3 and PS2 games if they were made back compat on the PS4
Yup, you guessed it - once again we're waiting for CZcams's 4K encoders to spit out the full-fat ultra HD version of this video. 1080p60's done and looks good, but please check back later for the higher resolution versions.
Hi guys ,first off thank you for the quality content !! Secondly ,is it worth you guys uploading and keeping the video private until the 4k encoding has finished then release it to the public ? I'm pretty sure Linus tech tips and many others operate like this but it may not be viable for you guys to work like this.
DigitalFoundry that cinematic depth of field with ubersampling was always known as a framerate killer i remember i played witcher 2 on 680gtx back in 2012 with ubersampling off and cinematic depth of field of apart those 2 all was maxed out and i downsampled from 2560x1440 to a 1080p and it ran beautifully more an average of 50fps with some drops to low 40's.
And if my 980ti can do 1080p with ubersampling(4k performance hit)without that cinematic depth of field at 60+fps with a few drops below 60, then you could have done the same with a regular 1080 at 4k just disable the cinematic depth of field the game regular depth of field is beautiful enough and the performance hit is not worth it.
The lighting looks noticeably better on PC than xbox one...
You guys really love saying "full fat"
ubersampling is a gimmick... wtf are you doing using it in 4k? I thought you were tech savvy folks.
Before people comment why didn't the Xbox one X version just run like the pc and call it weak
Well the Xbox one X version is the 360 version but enhanced you can't change code so drastically where frame rates and fully blown ultra textures are used
Pu3r 360 yeah they didn't mention enough how much the engine was rebuilt for this on 360.
They absolutely could, it would just require going back to the original code and putting a option for an unlocked framerate.
It would still be the 360 code, it would just need a patch to enable it. It's not the first game to have an option in a 360 game to remove the cap, bioshock, bioshock 2, bioshock infinite, and saints row 3 are examples.
well put. most people who comment dont know anything about developing games
The backward compatibility versions are the versions I was referring to. They had an option even when they were released on 360 to uncap the framerate. It usually dropped the v-sync on 360, but with bc it forced v-sync so it uncapped it, but didn't have the screen tearing on xbox one hardware. I'll suggest you look up digital foundry's backwards compatibility video on bioshock 1 & 2 as they explain it better than I can. Saints row 3 never came to current gen outside of backwards compatibility.
The fact that they got Witcher 2 running on the 360 looking good and at a reasonable frame rate is impressive.
It's amazing how this channel just never gets boring. Been watching you guys for 4 years straight and I never miss an upload. Best game analysis channel on CZcams!
Still remember playing this masterpiece, if you didn't play it on 360 you've like ZERO excuses now.
Witcher 2 MASTERPIECE!
Hugo Azevedo Or you played it on Pc, where it should be played on.
On PC it's how it was meant to be played.
Yeah, without a Pc you can't play the whole franchise.
System Shock childish comment really. It was an excellent port.
@System Shock - The Witcher 1 is trash though.
Let’s take a moment to appreciate the effort that went into the ports and optimisations by both CD Project Red and Microsoft. Thanks! Show those other developers how it’s done right!
Sure, the PC version of Witcher 2 maxed out (even without Ubersampling) looks amazing, but damn, the X360 version at 4K with the stuff the X1X does looks jawdropping all the same.
PC ver honestly looks more jaw dropping to me.
The 360 was not an excellent port....it was barely playable with drops down to 14 FPS. It was a ballsy endevour however to port it to 360.
Christopher Scott Please provide proof that it ever dropped down to 14fps! I played through the game twice on 360 and NEVER saw it drop below 24-25fps on its most demanding scenes or sequences. No one who has played or reviewed the 360 version has EVER stated that the game dropped that low. Quit lying to yourself!
Just out of curiosity you can tell 24-25 fps? for me it's either fluid or choppy (regardless of game)
You don't say....
Xbox One X is running a emulated old Xbox 360 game @4K, the textures and assets are untouched but you still get great results in 4K on the Xbox One X
Good Job Microsoft
yea in 30fps lmao underpowered!
@@TheRedFoxMcCloud
Did you miss the part where Richard said you need to lock it to 30fps on pc for it to be consistent?
Wichard >>> Witcher 2
Wichard >>>>>>>>>> Witcher 3
Wichard 3 >>> Witcher 3
Just keep doing Witcher videos till the end of time I’ll keep watching
I actually preferred The Witcher 2, over 3. Being more linear made it better somehow. Not saying 3 is bad
Yeah 3 has too big map for and too much ?. For first play it won't matter but on second and next play it matter (Sorry for grammatical mistakes. U know what i mean). Witcher 1 and 2 don't have this problem. Witcher 3 is good game with a lot of stories in every location (Kaer Morhen, Biały Sad, Novigrad, Velen, Skellige, even Wyzima).
Very impressive ms continues to do well with backwards compatibility
Fallofduty no new good games so...
Maicon Afonso true
Fallofduty multiplax box one x.
You don’t need to worry about backwards compatibility on pc since every game since the 1990’s works on that system.
Always so much hate lmfao
These X enhanced games look incredible.
"The stuff of a madman s dreams. " Lol That's gold right there, Richard!
this game was extremely demanding back in the days, even compared to the witcher 3 today, still looks incredible
From a PC gamer perspective, this isn't bad at all. I own the ps4 too and wish they had something similar for ps3 games, what they have now is a terrible solution.
Just as well RPCS3 is coming along nicely, that'll be your solution in the near future.
I believe emulations on PS3 titles is nearly impossible due to the complicated nature of the cell processor. This was the main reason all multiplats ran at lower resolution and worse performance than the 360. I can imagine emulating it must be a nightmare, let alone increasing resolution and adding AA like microsoft does through hardware.
Admiral Ackbar Then tell me how I've played the first 5 hours of persona 5 on my pc?
Admiral Ackbar Search up RPCS3. There you have a one that is work in progress where games are becoming more and more playable.
"Emulation on PS3 is nearly impossible"
RPCS3 already able to run some games
Xbox One X- Very Impressive!!!
NexGenTek Man you have low standards.
System Shock yes, your standards are low indeed you you're a PC fanboy.
Better than a company defending one, low standards though i use the only open platform, where i can switch hardware and optinions whenever i want? Ok, then, keep bowing to others.
you know you sound like a vegan right?
Is it really?? Objects are scaled wrong, textures and DOF are dialled back whilst not being at 4k. What's impressive about it?
Witcher 2 still looks good for such an old game, better than many games out today.
I remember how graphically demanding this was on PC when it released. Playing it on max settings with Supersampling was madness!
DF doing the lords work as always. Just picked this up for series X and on sale. So where would I go to get the industries best analysis on this game and others I have bought. Why DF of course. Legends keep it up and thank you
Great video as always.
Just throwing this out there:
Hope that you can make a technical comparison video for Ni no Kuni II on PS4 Vanilla, Pro and PC.
Got the king collectors edition or whatever the name is pre-ordered for both and don’t know yet which one I should cancel.
I’d like to play on my ps4 vanilla but if there is no 60fps, I’ll take the pc version.
Xbox one X once again continues to amaze me. Not bad for a $500 box.
Otie Floro Agreed 😁
it amazes you how they had to remove 70% of PC features to run this 2011 game?
Yselian I have heard that the code was a mess for witcher 2 so that may be a reason.
Yselian Its the 360 version being enhanced so obviously there will still be limitations, they cannot change the game completely, so they didnt remove pc assets they werent there in the first place from the 360
GodLike C hes talking about free online, customizability ect and the xbox ones lack thereof, not the actual games features
Just finished playing The Witcher 2 on xbox one enhanced here in 2020. It's a great experience!
Finally this video comes out! Good job DF!
When is the pro getting hdr support for the witcher 3?I thought they was going to have it out by now.
Man, the Xbox team should really be proud of their work with 360 emulation. Higher-level geometry out of an emulator? Frankly, that's amazing.
This game has that Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines effect on me where seeing just a little of it makes me want to replay the whole thing all over again.
The 360 version had texture streaming issues, particularly in cutscenes - curious to see how this compares?
Any chance you'll test The Witcher 3 with PS4 supersampling enabled? I've started playing this last week and be interested to see if it's worth using
Hm...not bad. Especially on the Xbox One X; however, I felt that it was a little weird to leave out the regular Xbox One as it would have been neat to compare the two alongside the 360
Daniel Pierce default xbox one just does a 360 emulator, only the X is upgraded towards 4k on the backwards compatibility games
It'll be a similar story to every other game on back compat. No screen tearing, higher texture filtering quality. Great game, definitely worth picking up
No one in there right mind would still own an original xbox one.
the Xbox One version is just the 360 version... its a 360 BackCompat game.
I liked the story of Witcher 2 more than Witcher 3.
It's closer to what books were about. I also prefer some other aspects of Witcher 2 to Witcher 3 - which an amazing game, but W2 as far as I am concerned is the closest we ever got to the books. Wild, ambitious and riddled with difficulties during development, I think this is CD Projekt's most impressive achievement to date.
Can we get analysis on any of the new Switch games? Outlast, Kirby etc etc?
How do u change between graphics and performance mode I can't find any options at all.
Just bought TW2 for $2.99 on my SX. I feel like a kid on Christmas. Lol
46k views in 2 hours. Congrats!
Does anyone know what software or tool they use to see screen tearing?
I love all your guys/ gals hard work over there and appreciate it very much! Thank you
Isn't there two versions of the PC game? There is the Standard Edition and Enhanced Edition (Director's Cut) on Steam.
Yeah i think it's not a fair comparison as the pc version has been improved too
If someone told me that TW2 was a current gen game I would've believed them, this game looks pretty good even by today's standards.
Actually witcher 3 looks not that much different, just bigger world, and better lighting, without stupid one color filters, which are not seen in this video.
It's incredible, I can't believe they did this and it shows that other developers are going to have to step up their game!
Richard, how are you playing this on the Xbox One X? Although I can find the game in the Store on my Xbox One X, there’s no option to buy or download it. It’s the same on the mobile app and the website.
Dont know what it is but I actually prefer the lighting for the Xbox version.
Yeah, on pc I would probably turn off that depth of field effect too, some of those scenes looked better just due to having that turned off on the x.
Witcher 2 had always that strange yellow-ish graphics/effects filter on it's envoronment.
Seems to be almost GONE in the X-version which makes the game look almost totally different!
More like this would be nice... My main problem with backcompat is that titles don't hold up on my 4K TV this looks like it would be well worth getting into.
Mind it has been super cheap in Steam for a long time, wonder if it supports Ultrawide.
I wish all 360 xbox one x enhanced games gets a 60fps patch or performance mode patch
Kudos Microsoft.
Definitely gonna revisit this game on my X1X now! Xbox is KILLING it with the back-compat games looking/running better on the X1X!
one of the best games i've ever played. Finished it 2 times making big different choses each time. Had different endings. Brilliant game!
So is it an auto process, or microsoft/cd project red did work to port it?
Ps4 to one x:
What?what!?what are u doing?!?
One x:
Killing monsters!!!!!!
That trailer was horrible. Even the developers made fun of it.
Ps4 to xbox one x: what are you doing? Xbox one x: playing old ass game because we don't have any new game
The good guy killed bad guy ^ Butthurt much? Ps4 guy here, it was a joke.
adolfo zaragoza it was a joke too as a respond to his joke
The good guy killed bad guy A joke to counter a joke? Well then all is settled, good day.
It just baffles me how this amazing channel has only 500k subscribers while some immature person like Linus has around 5M. Truly unfair.
No mention of the weird shadowing/AO glitching we see on Geralt's face in some close-up scenes? They are similar to some glitches I got in the PC version when I tried to force HBAO through nVidia Inspector
Stingy McDuck Love the name, love the profile picture.
Loving the dedication and work provided by the Xbox Back Compat Software Engineering Team.
But what is the frame rate test on the PS3/4?
Azza Prime It's on 0fps! But rock solid I swear!
Oh good, as long as its rock solid
Witcher 2 was definitely future proofed. I actually prefer 2 to the third instalment.
@DigitalFoundry could you guys compare sonic unleashed on 360 vs X to see if frame rates were improved
That music in the intro takes me back
Ps4 pro update 5.50 with new supersampling, DF, please, test)
GG Microsoft GG
can you play xbox one x enhanced with the cd too or only when it’s downloaded?
do you have this kind of video with skyrim?
Great game.
YES! I still have a poster of TW2 in my home. I WISH Iorveth was in TW3. I wanted to know more about his personal life, background, story - and wanted him alongside me. He was my favorite character in TW2.. there was an air of mystery to him, and a charm. Wish CDPR at least included him as a big expansion.. alas..
Xbox one x is absolutely amazing
Any improvements when using and 1080p screen and graphics mode on the Xbox One X ?Does the game show the same improvements in graphics on a 1080p screen?Downsamples...??Many people still use an 1080p screen with the Xbox One X so why not talk about it?
If anyone experienced a problem with amd setup where in the 1st part of the game you go out your tent and look at other tents outside king foltest's cap it will drop the fps a lot. It is fixed in amd may 2020 driver update. Just to let everyone know. I have ryzen 5 3600 + rx 5700xt and when I'm inside the tent i have 144fps (v sync on) and when i go outside and look at the tents the fps drops to 24 fps. So if you want to remove this problem you must install the may driver update or the latest stable one which is adrenalin 20.9.1
Xbox Win X
Damn, looks like a completely different game on pc.
Should I play TW2 on my GTX 1060 laptop or in 4K over on the XB1X?
Wow, I'm really impressed with some of these XBX enhancements that are done through emulation. As an advocate for the PC master race, I'm still interested to see this kind of stuff happening to console. Do any of you guys think this approach should've been done for Arkham Asylum and City instead of Return to Arkham?
Best Box Won
Wasn't the X
*Yes, let the hate flow through you.*
So, you wanna plough?
You guys _have_ to do a video on Far Cry 3 Classic Edition from the Far Cry 5 Season Pass when it comes out
Why is the lighting during the Kayran fight so drastically different on XboxOne X?
A lot of people prefer the light on Xbox, it's just "better". PC's light is "dumb".Did you disabled "Ubbersampling" on PC? At 4K it's not necessary.
He did say, "with ubersampling turned off no less" when mentioning how taxing the game was to run at 4k.
So glad i backed ms and the X sony are done
I played this on 360 first, despite owning the PC version (couldn't run it). I was blown away how 360 could handle this game. Played PC version last year after beating TW3 on consoles, and damn, it still looked great.
The witcher 3 has a much better interface but the story of the witcher 2 as superb, not including w3 expansions which were brilliant
Is there also an enhancement to Full HD? I have Xbox One X, but not 4K display, only Full HD, do I get any enhancements, or is it just X360 emulation (which runs in 720p, I believe)?
It's enhanced because you're running on Xbox One X
Xbox one X is amazing, they keep on doing great things with the new Xbox. Xbox now is simply outstanding!
I’m 6’3! I know that has nothing to do with this, but I keep saying it!!!!
you are pretty small to be honest :D
You're 6 foot 3 inches in height?, I doubt that, sounds like a tall story to me
That squashed image really bugs me. You'll probably not notice it unless you have the two versions side by side but it's still weird that they left it like this.
I've had both this and the first game in my GOG libary for almost a year now but I have yet to play either.
Xbox x looks better than pc. On 360 you had better colors and more natural lighting - without the overbearing bloom on PC - but the sub native res coupled with hideous texture filtering and fxaa really muddied it. Still looked great for a 360 title though. On X everything's fixed and honestly Witcher 2 benefits far less from 60fps than Witcher 3 does.
Also the 360 version has more responsive gamepad controls.
Everyone needs to support CD Projekt / CD Projekt RED. Seriously, buy their games even if you don't plan on playing. They are definitely one of the good ones. Respect!
Ernesto M "buy their games even if you don't plan on playing" ummmmmm, no.
szanyi95 like you've played every game in your steam library :).
Ernesto M I haven't but I intend to play every game I buy, why would I pay for a game I have zero intention of enjoying?
I also don't see a point in buying a game I don't plan on playing. Stop being such a fanboy.
Hanging out for the windows edition DF
I just played Crackdown last night and will get into this and Forza Horizon 1 soon. These X enhanced games are amazing. Completely revitalizes old games on console!
Jesus PC, what a beast, not even a contest.
Even potato could run gimped down ten-year-old game at high-resolution. Nothing impressive really.
More salt please.
XBOX one x version taken directly from 360, not made for xox so it is obvious that pc look good
The Witcher 1 is still the best one, hoped the sequels would continue that. Sadly not.
Agreed
No, it had more features and wasn't downgraded console bullshit. The latest Witcher game don't even has the different stances anymore, and you got all signs from the start.
That's not an opinion I hear every day!
Would you compare the series' progression (regression?) to that of System Shock and Bioshock, then? The comparison came to mind even before I saw your name!
Debatable, the pacing of the story and the voice acting are measurably better in the series 2nd installment.
As for the gameplay the elements you seem to take umbrage with are entirely subjective in nature, no point debating it.
I've never played TW3 so I'll reserve any judgement insofar as that goes.
The lighting changes are the results of the Enhanced Edition update and are also available on pc. Your pc footage seems to be the original, non enhanced.
how these x-enanched versions work? you have to buy it again or use the original disk and download something?
JackTheBeast88 iff you have bought the game digital then it’s just download and play. If you have physical copy than you insert the disk and the digital copy gets downloaded. But then you can only acces it with the disk. But yes you can use the original 360 disk.
ok, so they're basically "free remasters" thanks
JackTheBeast88 yes completely free of charge.
Xbox One X is a MONSTER.
No dude, it's not.
if you put it that way i agree it is a monster can only run old games in 30fps that's great!
"I'm running this with a Titan x pascal at 4k resolution to provide a match for the xbox one x version" let that sink for bit
raysugoi turn off ubersamplimg which doesnt do much anyway it would run 4k on a 1070 with better graphics than the x with close to 60 fps
Of course, all those extra visual effects come performance free, just an artistic choice by the developer, whoever says ultra settings are extremely demanding are supporting a myth, obviously.
raysugoi You don't need a Titan to run this at 4k on PC.
The x is running with less than half enabled settings pc has and on a heavily nerfed engine. Let that sink in.
Which is nothing more than an absurd statement by Richard. Of course the game is demanding at 4K maxed out on PC, partly because of the depth of field that's mentioned throughout. Turning that down or off alone would send the frame rate drastically upwards. It's just nonsense that continues to perpetuate the myth that you need a Titan Xp or 1080Ti to run anything at 4K on the PC.
one just cannot fully appreciate the magic of the Witcher 2 ....its atmosphere, artstyle, music, ...geez..i loved the game years ago but after I saw the game in this video ..there is only few games with such a strong magic
This one's really nice. I'd like to see a game that ran @native 720p with unlocked frame rate, but performance frluctuating as low as 20, running on the X. That way, we could really see the full power of the emulator. Imagine the original game running @720p30 while the X does 4k60, that would be AMAZING.
Compare the PS4 version
Oh wait
Witcher 2 never came out on PS3.
Admiral Ackbar That was the joke bro 😅
Let’s not talk about resolution anymore! And it’s not because of One X, honest!
Awww You and TruthHurts commented at the same time.
Wow i dont believe it. Digital foundry has done it again. Superb work guys. By the way the fact that this is an analysis of a witcher game in itself deserves 50million views
I’ve also noticed that Geralt’s face looks smaller or thinner in the Xbox Console. Thank god I got the Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition because I get to see more of those upgrades
I got the Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition on X box one X too its so perfect xd i love it on pc and console