How to CARRY BAD ADCS as Support - League of Legends
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TLDR: Don't carry your adc, carry your other teammates
I mean, why carry one when u can carry the whole, unless that 'one' is included
I would have ditched bot lane earlier already with that adc. Not only to help my hopfully better lanes, but for my own sanity
Actual lesson should be learn to analyze whether your ADC CAN carry. You generally know this in the first 4 or so minutes.
the sup in low elo always go to put out fires in lanes that are walking ints in the first place
@@fengliu975 on the other hand if you leave your adc alone in low elo he WILL run it down
That Thresh almost predicted that flash. Insane.
Was very clean but keep in mind, at that elo, knowing he has flash. Most people will at least be able to react with flash. But i did think the exact same thing when he did it
Nothing really insane.
Was literally about to comment this but saw you already did. Actually insane timing of the prediction too.
I just hate how sometimes when you get a really bad adc and you do your best to do everything to save them, they keep making mistakes and blame you for it...
That's our pathetic life. There's nothing you can do and it's also risky to mute them, since you might still want to try communication for objectives and tactics.
only thing i hate more is when i as support carry my adc so he has the best kda and after game he gets all the honour and i get nothing
@@Sebastian-oz1lj You will never get honored, I've carried games lux support 10/0/20, and told my teammates "Well done!" "gj" and being overall positive and still earned 0 honors, if you want honor then go Yi jg, Kat mid, or some other bs that can do a penta and you might get a couple of honors. The other problem is duos, any duo will always honor themselves, Did the 0/13/1 mid-lane Yasuo got carried? you bet your ass their jg friend who ganked him 7 times and facepalmed as he still died before he could be there is gonna honor him. The honor system is for streamers that get honored for being streamers or people that can impress by doing flashy pentas, but it's a slow and painful grind for us supports.
I am mostly a Support and Jungle main, most of my time I just play solo and the amount of people I find in Bot lane/adc trolling is horrendous
@@Melekcevik12 I guess experience may differ depending on your lane, what never changes is some douche getting tilted and running it down their lane.
1:47 Nautilus looking real sus
LMFAOOOOO
When I do it in my elo, my team flames me for ditching the adc even after he is 0/6/0 within 10 mins.
Mute all, carry them. Nothing else to say if theyre trying to get you to support an inter.
If you listen to your team you are gonna make bad decisions. Mute all and do what YOU think it's the best.
I’ve been playing with my team because I don’t want to get flamed and been lossing because of it. If you know something is a bad play trust yourself don’t do it, and if you know something is a good play go for it
/mute all stay and help in early game if mid / late help team help the= carry = of ur team get objectives or kills from. Him
It's about being useful for the rest of the team, not just ditching the ADC.
If you had a good impact in the rest of the map, they wouldn't be flaming you.
Also /mute all
Basically, you are the TEAM support, not the ADC's support
say this too your adc, good luck :D
Ur the Team support but have to carry ur adc in early game after mid and late u can follow ur team and focus on the main carry at that moment
that's what I say when ADC ask me "why do you leave me"
@@KurzedMetal dude youre fuckinjg solmyr... no wonder u can do that
Yeah....explain that to my gold adc's...
This is something, as a support player that I really apperciate! Had my first 15 matches or so matches on ranked and right now, sitting in Bronze 1 with the goal to hit Silver 1 by the end of the season(Placed Bronze 3). As a support main, something I have been struggling with is "Carrying" my team as a support. Roaming was something I was aware of and tried to do but never to this extent as shown here. More than that, the idea to find winning lanes and playing alongside them is great advice and something I should have adopted a long time ago but will now look to implement into my game. Here is hoping it helps me finally climb into Silver!
Goodluck
Bruh it s like i wrote this comm, i relate 100%, gl mate
I'm afraid there is no way to play support in bronze/silver my friend. If you're a good player then carry yourself in other lanes and if you still prefer support, switch back to it once you dont have to go 1v9. Coming from a diamond support player
when my adc is bad and we lose tower then I try to see where else I can make a difference and change the momentum. Trying to help mid push so we can gain back a tower. Just hate it when my adc is mad or don't understand why I am doing it.
@@MrScalius adc players usually don’t understand that 600 g sitting on the bot lane to be picked up is actually bad for them. And low elo adcs especially don’t understand the significance of xp share or the benefit of first turret falling. The adc can easily and safely freeze and farm under second tower of theirs. And if it’s a very early stage of the game the better chance of comeback.
It's funny that they've used a Blitzcrank instead of a Nautilus at 2:00
same champ basically
@@phoebelovesYOU not really, nautilus is like Blitzcrank but takes an actual brain to use
@@biggiecheese2004 nautilus takes a brain to use?
@@LazarTheMaster more than blitzcrank, you can actually fuck up on nautilus if you get baited into the wall with your hook. blitz can just perma spam it until it hits just like morg
@@biggiecheese2004 you mean if you miss the hook with the most broken hitbox in the game AND hit a wall? Even if that happens 90% of the time you can just walk away.. You can also use that same hook as an escape tool becouse of that... Not to mention the point and click cc on ult..
I always type in chat and try to coach my adc when he's bad. Pinging is also a good method and no I don't mean spam pinging question marks...
Everybody has bad games and not everbody is a god gamer so just don't be mad and don't tell them that they should "stop inting". They don't do it on purpose...
You lose time and energy into trying to coach teammates. They usually hold randoms as equal/inferior to them, and taking advice from people you think are inferior to you is almist impossible
Typing just makes people int harder, 99% of people don't listen and all you do is start a flame war in chat
If the challenger support is not typing or pinging and trying to "coach" why should you?
The take away was to make the best out of the situation, not trying to fix what can't be fixed.
League is a team game. That's one of the gripes I have with most "coaching" channels, they preach like teamwork is antithetical to the very game itself. It's really off-putting, actually, because I often find people who are open to working with me. You just have to know how to talk to them.
With "coaching" I mean that I try to lead the bot lane. I say something like "let's go aggro when I W in, wait for my ult".
I have great success with this method Idk why y'all so mad about coaching lol
@@FV0055 Exactly. Communication is so big in League, especially in the bot lane. Couldn't tell ya how big a difference it makes in wave management alone when I ping "help me" on the wave because I want to shove and back. My support will usually hit the wave, sometimes even using abilities!
If you play it like a team game (to a point, of course), you get better results.
but here is the real solo q support problem: what if...your whole team is a twitch?
This why I only play ranked with a duo partner now. At least there will be a person to enable to carry
Me playing support:
Is my ADC walking up when the 9th minion is about to die?
If yes: I like him.
If no: Me jungle now.
youre a shaco support main as well? i feel that
@@InkogitoRecords No, I'm a jungle main, but I do play support sometimes.
😁😁😁😁 noice
im a new player question what does this mean?
@@shallow_nights_rain the 9th minion (1 wave + 3 melee minions of the second wave) will give you level 2, in the botlane you should always try to get level 2 first and fight after you have it. This levelspike is so powerful that if done correctly you win almost every fight, you can simply run at them and kill them in their wave. But if done wrong you might get nothing.
Let's imagine the matchup is: Samira and Thresh vs Caitlyn and Karma
Here an example of how it typically works if challenger does it (step by step):
1. at level 1 both botlanes try to push the wave, usually with a little bit of fighting (because the thresh has relic he can execute 2 minions).
2. the challenger will then execute 2 melee minions of the second wave (after the first melee minion got killed already).
3. This leads to level 2 (At that moment Samira and Thresh are pretty close to the enemies so the immediatly can go in after hitting level 2).
What they will do will probably surprise you:
4. the thresh hits level 2 and flashes in the face of Caitlyn and Karma and pulls them back with e. after that he either autoattacks or throws a prediction hook (thinking they will flash away and hook where they will flash to), if he hit's Caitlyn with his prediction hook she will proabably die.
What helped me as support was when I was told identify your win condition and support them. You have to start bot lane, you don't have to stay bot lane. If your ADC is garbage, he's not your win con, find who is and make plays for them.
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Play dmg supports until your at a rank where your teammates have enough game sense you can start playing tanks and utility supports
are you sure you watched the video ? :)
@@buttonbutton4992 yeah and you expect the team to follow up on your engage in bronze or silver? Lmao
@@testserver2054 i climbed bronze and silver up to gold playing ashe support and seraphine, so yeah if you do the right things, your team will follow... but maybe you're actually not doin the right thing...
@@buttonbutton4992 are you telling me Ashe and seraphine isn’t dmg? I’m talking about thresh, alistar, nautilus, and Taric. I’m not saying you can’t climb with these champs it’s just so much slower. You played Ashe and seraphine, it’s easier to climb with a champ that does dmg and have cc. Why play tank with cc and no dmg when you can have dmg and cc and safety. Says if you do the right thing your team will follow but it’s a lot less forgiving when you are playing a mage with ranged cc and dmg. Teams are a coinflip just carry with dmg. Any support champ that doesn’t have to go to the enemy is just easier to play idk what point you are trying to make. Utility is only op if your team capitalizes on it but that’s not a guarantee. Your own dmg and ranged cc is what is more stable. Ofc if you have more game knowledge these picks are strong but not everyone is a smurf.
@@testserver2054 ashe support and sera support deal zero damages... it's fine i'm not making any point, you know better don't change anything :)
Blitz came back instead of Nautilus? 😂
Nautilus is so OP he morphed into Blitzcrank.
I feel you. Not being able to control ur adc sometimes hurts
Most helpful vid I've watched so far
I don’t play bot much but I have a huge tip. Don’t be an asshole, everytime I play adc/support me and my support/adcs are like best friends. They love to be complimented and not flamed after a mistake. Getting good synergy with them is really important
if u have a duo then yes, otherwise it's not worth it to go laning with twitch here
Jokes on you, I mute the entire fucking chat emotes and warnings. But I buy wards and have map awarenes...
Also u have to pick into ur adc / support dont just pick anything good match up can reallx change the game and make it easier
For example xayah rakan has so much bonuses if you can play it
Huge tip to get better at botlane and support. Don't play botlane and support go top or midlane done
In my experience with support one mindset helps more than anything. Your adc is a kindergartener. Guide them to the right plays. Keep it to one or two pings and phrase everything as nice questions or commands like: hey come reset with me or shall we setup around drake?. I single ping or two on them and then two on where you want them to go. If they are unhelpable roam. Play engage support and find your one sane teammate and make plays with them. Force your team into the correct fight . If you go into every game knowing that they will be living minions, it’s a lot less tilting when you turn out to be correct and it will feel a lot better if they are not
If u ping u can save time and just start attackimg objectices towers first team will follow without writing
@@shiroangel01 sometimes, but if you have tried enough times you would know that it very often is not enough, since people (especially below plat) often just dont look at the map half as much as they do the chat
I think one really overlooked part of the video is when thresh went back to help twitch push the wave. My guess is there were a few times it was needed while he was off roaming, but helping when you're in a position to do so and there's nothing else happening on the map is important. Even players having a bad game can still contribute by doing damage in a teamfight or pushing lanes. Played with a Vayne bot recently and at the beginning she had no clue how to manage the wave and kept getting punished by the enemy Thresh when she'd use her tumble to engage. I did what I could to help but realized I was better off helping others. By the end of the game though she had enough items to shred through the enemy morde and was still a big help in winning the game.
Also played with a draven that yelled at me for his own mistakes when I was making the correct decisions and he threatened to quit. I muted him immediately and roamed heavily after that, but still came back to help when possible. His insane damage output was very helpful in teamfights later on and he was the only one who could kill the enemy Renekton (with help). He credited himself for the win at the end of the game, but the rest of my team recognized the huge role I played in keeping them relevant (not to mention my awesome leona engages).
Leona is alwais fun to play. But Vayne isn't a early/mid carry, she's a late game carry. Meaning she does nothing for a lot of time and if the enemies have a brain, they will gank you often to slow her down the most. She should farm undertower for a bit and go in only when there's an all-in, while being aware of her surroundings but go tell them...
Much needed
Can you make a video about the opposite situation?
Roaming out of desperation after the death of bot lane is something i did already in the past. Sometimes it went good, tons of times the enemies stick to bot open and either won the game alone if untouched or forced me to try and gain time, since the jungler wasn't aware that covering towers and mid to gank like the enemies did all the time, existed.
But the last 6 games lost showed me that too many times it's a mental and lacking base skills problem. For instance, i've had adc inting min 10 because they got killed 3 times while going aggro in a risky matchup, or over extending too much without warding shit with me.
So the normal situation to me is like this:
_ adc inting and not knowing how to handle the minion waves, how to ward, how to check the minimap etc.
_ mid that NEVER EVER ganks bot, not even following the enemy mid laner to at least discourage the gank with just presence pressure.
_ top who obviously forgot that ping and TP on wards exist to help like the ol' S3 days
_ jungler who "refuses" to gank properly, often coming 1 vs 2 to then rage at the lane if the enemy is overfed. Also no knowledge about his own jungle objecyives etc.
I wonder why the 90% of my randoms decided to play ranked when they clearly need to check the training sessions of the game. Seriously, i'm not perfect and i know i'm doing mistakes here and there like everyone else, but at least i know what i'm failing, address that and i try to improve while also adapting here and there. But there's no winning point most of the time, because there's a total ignorance on even how to TF, everyone going solo like fucking Rambo 0/8 and yelling.
I tried with enchanters and the mage/assassin meta deletes them, i tried tanks but my adc never does the damage it should and it requires to have him joining the engages, without fleeing or sleeping. I'm literally forced to use mages to have enough damage in lane to tie up with the enemy duo pressure, but it's not like i have enouh power to kill AND to tank them.
The reality it's that there's no perfect guide and it's either to have a decent team or it's a loss without parole. But i refuse to surrended in ranked, who knows if we can win a matchup in the middle of the map by a enemy mistake and going to the nexus because of a long revive time.
But it's without actual hope.
great vid
im happy becaues i actually do many of this thinks naturally, that means im improving, witch is nice. Very good video, see u on the rift!!
i watched the video as an adc main to learn from my own mistakes! good video!!
Best thumbnail, you outdid youselves.
When I do what this Thresh did my friend who is 0-5 at 8 min is blaming me at the end of the game that I left him alone and this is the reason we lost the game. Meanwhile I gank and ward every lane and the rest team just don't follow the plays. I hold the wave at mid and they ping me to go away,I gang top and before I get there he dies even though I pinged I'm ganking top. I'm so glad to see that I'm not the crazy one in these situations... I literally do most of these things and just need to get my patience stronger to keep making the right calls. So hard not to tilt though.
great vid, learned a lot
I would like to know what to do as an ADC when I have a Nasus supp perma pushing my lane with E, or when I have the most conservative Brand saving his mana for retirement?
I am new to League and got Silver yesterday as a Support. Love it so far and i keep good vision up that saved our lifes very often tho. And i would have recalled right away after a kill and pushed wave. The wave will bounce anyway :) My ADCs often just Push and overstay the Lane, then they die and call me a bad Support :(
Thanks
This was actually impressive
is swain viable to solo queue?
3:00 yeah but how to do that on supports with no long range aoe poke or hard hitting autos(like soraka or thresh)? How to shove the wave solo against 2 champions with an item advantage?
I think he should have sold the biscuit for pinks, there is a enemy evelynn on the map that is level 6, he should have 2 pinks in his inventory at all times when possible.
Also if he needs to go back he can just tell the twitch he is going back and peace out since the start he should start roaming around especially seeing how twitch is playing.
4:50 "holding the wave" there didn't really do anything though, apart from helping lee recall. However If he'd let a caster or 3 live, wouldn't that help the wave slow push for the twitch, who was going to be in solo lane for the coming 30-40 sec?
I can totally get what this videos teach and I apply those very, very well in my Silver games but it's just insanely hell elo lol. Non-sportsmanship and mental boom is just very real and damaging to not just game efficiency but also the general fun from playing the game. I had been in this game for 6 years and I have no intention of leaving it anytime soon, and even if you get people to just tick a box that says they agree to maintain sportmanship in the game, they just don't do it and would get away with a lot of things. I'm not saying to be as strict as how Riot is doing with Valorant security and gamer welfare, but can I just have a loss mitigation when I obviously have a game that has an inting teammate(s) and AFK chilling in base? As if the game doesn't keep records of what we do in game already.
By average, not only you, BUT YOUR ENEMIES, also get that kind of mental player, so it balance out.
Even if you think this is holding you back, it's not, it's your skillset that's holding you back in that Elo.
Time to start improving :) This is the wrong mindset to climb.
Stop blaming others for your bad micro, macro and decisions
The other thing to keep in mind is this is not unique to you. Everyone in silver is having the same experience. So just not tilting can be the key to victory. People flame and then troll their teammates all the time in this Elo. You literally can have an advantage over them by not being a part of that. And even more advantage if you help your team stay positive.
es estresante estar con un adc useless, yo nunca rotaba y eso me mantenía en platino luego dije " mejor roto y ayudo en otros lados" y así fue como subí a diamante y master 1lp xd pero cuando juegas con un buen adc, uffffff se siente tan bien, no digo que soy pro y todos podemos tener malas partida pero de que no sirva para nada a tener mala partida, son dos cosas distintas.
That's a nice Nautilus skin 1:50
Just in time 🤩🥳🎇
does this thresh stream ?
I'm so glad Lee came
Thresh is no doubt the best support to choose when playing with a bad ad. Pick an engage tank like Leona and you will have no follow up dmg. Poke support can be decent like Vel'coz, trying to zone enemy team out while keeping them low health, but very risky since your AD will allways push rather than freeze, and very often try to dive and die, not to mention the risk of ganks while being 24/7 at their tower.
I can confirm with Leona. If you cant do well with your ADC you can go to another lane for an easy lock up or just roam with the jungler.
Any tips when my adc is just running it down?
I can't carry as support because I get so tilted from playing with adcs that play for the enemy team. Shit drives me nuts.
1:41 Blitzkrank!? How'd they get in there?
You should also explane why they would back there and to go for plaits since its pre min5 and theres no way they can get the plait … THATS why you should recall since all you are doing ist waisting time
You will do more damage later to the tower and will have items so EVEN MORE damage to tower …aka more plaits aka more money:)
Pls tell me if what im thinking is wrong :3
i love this guide! so much! but what to do when all lanes are behind? i just hate to give up then. can i as an ADC also gank top and mid when lane is lost? XD
If u see ur lane is mostly lost u can start roaming to other lanes and look for team fights but look if (anyone) wants to splitpush (solo pushing)
Other then that stay with team and focus on the carry who mostly will try to carry ur game if u can help him or get some assists / kills ur back. In the game
If u don't have a carry focus on ur own gameplay (mostly bc there are no carrys ingame who want to carry) then u should try carrying urself
i am in the hell elo platinum and i did all the thing you mention in the video already . but do you have a video about " carry the WHOLE shit load teamates as a support " ?
In bronze / Iron, when u have a carry who has even less clue than u on how to do things and has 0 intention on fixing those mistakes, It´s better to pick a support that can carry the match.
Yeah, that's what i do. Too bad that it's literally the meta for everyone now, so it's not a Lux vs Janna situation most of the times, like in the past. Support is just a second mid lane, nowadays.
Okay that twitch is either giga boosted or had an extremely bad game, and I think it is the first, because he really can't even get over bronze playing like that probably
he is boosted for sure, there is no doubt. He go invisible for nothing happening in lane LMAO
He ended last season diamond, and plays mostly ddraven
‘Nautilus’
*Shows Blitzcrank multiple times*
There’s 2 easy ways I have found to do this.
Play a “support” that can do damage. That’s why I see ppl who pick Lux, Pyke, Vel’koz, Xerath, Brand… the champs that are less “support” and more “I can get kills” these normally do well as long as you’re better than your ADC.
The other east way is, if you pick a support reliant on teammates, then just make sure to have vision and ping enemies you see in the jungle for top and mid as well, then the rest of your team will allow you to roam the map.
What i’ve learned from just playing support enough: adc inting? -> Roammm. Grubs coming up? -> Roammm. Mid pushed? -> Roammm
How about buff sp? How you can carry with buff
I’m going to have to send this vid to my supports.
that cass doe who rushed seekers arm guard against ap jg and mid
But what about in wild rift and they over extend. And the teams is inting
When I see my adc misplay, i count. 3 times, and youre on your own. No one is gonna fix your mistakes forever. Imagine a Caitlyn, standing in front of a shoving wave, to get hook by a Thresh, then blame me, a Sett, for not assiting her, while i pinged her not to overdo
How to carry bad adc:
Mute and permaroam
Would like to show this the supports in my team😂
Inting is short for Intentionally Feeding and feeding refers to giving excessive gold through dying to your opponent. So inting means intentionally dying to throw the game….which Twitch doesn’t do. I don’t know why it annoys me so much that this guy (and so many other league players) calls any mistake “inting” when it isn’t. People want to report other for simply making mistakes and they call it inting.
This is good and all but what should I do when all other teammates int
Either try carrying yourself by playing AP or chat with enemies to tilt and distract them
in that case you just lose and go next
Good
River shen: wait, you guy are laning ?
They have Nautilus sup. Vs engage sup you freeze also you have engage sup so you freeze also enemy jungler is eve so your freeze. 3x freeze
I just played a game where my adc misplayed and died 5 times because they'd just yeet in on 1 hp. I misplayed once which lead to a death and got spam pinged the rest of the game :). So after that I just roamed mid and helped jgl. We won and my adc had 17 deaths and 3 kills.
4:49 maybe it’s not bad because it give the support gold which doesn’t matter, it lower the risks to give other people shut down
But leaving that 4cs is just trolling
4:52 min.: Looking for Nautis HP. Maybe go for some plates or somthing like this.
But if you have a bad support all u can do is perma shove and hope he's not inting somewhere else
whoa 50% of first plate.
twitch rly destoryed that turret.
Are we just going to ignore that new naut skin (blitz)
There is blitzcrank but should be tresh xD 1:52
so what if you don't play thresh?
U can do these things with every support! Yes u can even roam with yuumi just attach too the carry (midlaner jgl) if u do these things like him u will win more gamrs
this is my every game:D
The virgin adc:
stands still and auto atack
Gets one shotted
Cant start a fight
The chad adc:
Spams 4 buttons to make the adc a god
Can take a zed ult
They are the fight
You just reminded me i solo killed a zed with kaisa. I felt like a chad. Then got one shoted by a tank but that another story
Also that ADC won't forget about level 2 spike and punishes everything and everyone
That went over some heads already
Was trying Pantheon Support for once and we got absolutely rolled, thought it was my fault but my Jinx finished the game with 0 kills....
can you pls make it with a bad support
(i lost 2 of 3 ranked games because of this)
They already did czcams.com/video/U5SsP5P7rCA/video.html Enjoy.
@@pingmeep thx
easy. tell them to build shieldbow ninja tabis death dance so they can survive 1 second longer
Honestly, bad ADCs are why i play hyper carry supports like xerath and lux, so even if the ADC isnt doing damage i am and i can help the team more
Ye i do this, but my other 2 laners and jungle run it down too. 37% wr cuz im vs plats and my entire team is bronze 17% wr. They refuse to make the correct plays even when i tell them where to go n what to do. Its sooooooooo bad.
Can you do a video about how to play vs some one better? Instead om smurfing in Low ELO and carry vs all the Noobs, tell us how to play if we (me B5) have to play vs a Smurf that are boosting his friends acc for example* Or even just an other Bronzeplayer that are a bit better at moving, sidesteping and CS. :)
U get matched with same mmr so if u check urs it should be done (50% wr) if u still happen to meet a smurf then try playing safe mostly try not to die too much and if its only (1 smurfs or 2) u can still win these games just focus on the main problem (smurf) 1vs5 mostly kill them or hard cc
Its good to stay in team and look so they cant catch solo targets
my biggest problem is that i 'throw my hands up and say screw it' way to quick
When this happens to me, unless the adc is just mad, i say an order like " let them push to us to gain advantaje here" nothing of "pls" or nothing like a "nonsense order", order and the reward, usually this players dont know why are they loosing and when you say this things they just follow, other scenario, instead of my toplaner and jungler i saying "get the herald/void things or gguard the herald" I say "the enemy jungle will be there in no time, be careful of the camp " this shows that u know what will happen and its not an direct order, all mid, jungler and top knows that getting the 3 void things is good for us and to prevent that they will keep an eye on it and because they know what will happen its easyer, if you ping or you make an order they will just ignore(again if the ally its just not mad in blind mode, they are humans and know that the odbectives are important, its just they are affraid/they dont know when is a good time to doit).
Some say toplane is hard. Some say Support is harder than Toplane. Then there's me, playing Soraka Toplane with Crown as first item
imagine going on skillpcapped to see the latest video, and then realize that they're analytically and methodically telling you how shit you are xD
If we can't help them get kills, they will end up sharing exp with us)) Also I wonder why enemy bot didn't get fed enough to carry the game, in 80% they become a problem and the game is still lost
Some players keep farming like in dota 2 after having a good early lead . That is why the enemy team couldn't win .
I need to show this to my twin XD (we are duo botlane master elo and flame alot on eachother )
To be fair though ADC is in possibly one of the worst states it has been in years. The game is basically burst and mobility right now if you have none of those you can't do shit. And ADC are a role that lack in that.
1:34 min.: I would go for 1 Plate and then a fast reset.
If they has the dmg for it and the jgl and mid dont be near by. I dont know this because im not ingame but the enemy naut is dead and you got good gold. So you want to spend it.
Deep wards makes there no sense if you wants to go anyways base.
So 1 Plate plus Base would be the Logic Choice if Thresh dont int with his Runes. You wants to have demolish at him. At with this rune you melt the tower so hard that you easy get 1 plate with like zero effort and can base then fast eough to get fast eought base to came back with a huge item spike befor the wave crashs in your tower.
1:46 min.: Gooooddddd he ints his runes... yeah there make it sense if you dont pick demolish because you are a little inter... demolish is at a offensiv champ like thresh sooooo stronge!
He builds much health and early kills like this be allways posible. So demolish is to stronge at him.
2:14 min.: its not a tempo killer if you have demolish and dont into your god damn runes ._.
But yeah you have to reset befor naut is back.
With that i agree. The plate would btw be gone with demolish and they can go base. Then would they cames back with plate gold plus frist blood gold what lets this twitch sky rocket into the game.
3:14 min.: Normal ._.
You wait short with your recall and look what they did. And nope in time wouldnt they get it in the tower ^^
See my problem is my adc doesn't even stay in the client long enough to "playe the game"
I'm glad for some more support guides and this one was really informative. One thing I dislike is dunking on the Twitch player so much. We don't need more negativity in League. I don't think calling them an idiot was necessary. Nor was Twitch 'inting' either, he just didn't know better.
Its masters elo he did know better he was just boosted thats why he trolled his team mates in fact the game woukd if been lost after his deaths (if u didnt realise he gave them hard gold lead on the mvp carry adc role)
Thresh gladly fixed all of his mistakes but other then challenger player or rly high elo would if lost at that point and just ff thr game
and im doing everything on this video and most of the time my team flames me for adc dying and all say report both at bot lane, and when i cant roam becosue all team ignore me and i get 5 reported for no reason. riot need to add reprot section "fake reporting for no reason"
A side-conclusion from this video is: don't pick utility supports (nami, lulu etc) if you're unsure your adc is good (which on low elo means never pick utility)
saying utility I mean champions that have hard time ganking solo lanes.
then u should rewatch the video cuz u misunderstood :) ganking potential has nothing to do with it, u can still pick utility supports (btw nami HAS good ganking potential but np) and bring utilities to wherever it's needed somwhere else on the map... i assure u that a lulu going top to help her 2/0 darius get more kills will absolutly destroy the game... if you're a utility support and your adc sucks, then just bring utilities to other team mates ;)
@@buttonbutton4992 give me any reason to be Lulu/Nami over Pyke/Blitz in terms of ganking, lol. Can roaming Lulu destroy the game? yes. does it mean she is suitable for this purpose? No. There are better champions for roaming.
@@cnfnbcn3227 nami/lulu's winrates speak for themselves... you are tunneling on the ganking potential wich is not the point of the video... it's about being able to know where you should go and what you should do when yout adc isn't good enough to carry, no matter the support...
@@buttonbutton4992 are you even capable of understanding what you have read? I said SIDE-conclusion, and you say that this wasn't point of the video? For the sake of god, shut up.
PS Nami doesnt have any ganking potential.
@@cnfnbcn3227 ok mate, stay stucked :)
its masters elo a lot of people buy accounts, master elo now is like diamond 4 before
watched some lessons from a challenger support how to play engage/enchanter supports etc. I mean why the fk should I play it right, when my vayne perma pushes the wave, when I play Naut? Just how should I engage if the enemy is permanently under their turret, yes lets dive fking renata!
I just started playing a month now and even I knew the things he was doing wrong
1:53 the blitzcrank coming back to lane in the animation when its a nautilus XD