What's so special about this TROLL LEVEL?
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I believe that the second troll is achieved through progressive powerups. When you don't have a powerup, a mushroom spawns off-screen and moves to the right, activating a switch of sorts. But when you already have a powerup that mushroom is turned into a static fire flower which can't activate the mechanism.
That's brilliant. I wouldn't think of that in level design.
The sheer creativity of some of the most complex trolls in SMM absolutely astounds me. They think of things that I never would have even considered as triggers for insane, complex machinery that results in all new ways to kill you. It's an art form, really.
That is indeed what the creator did. There is a comment (from the creator) somewhere on a recent CarlSagan42 video, I think Dec 19 one. But good luck loading all those comments and finding it.
It surprises me that Ryu couldn't figure that out, old trick by now.
@@DIProgan He's used to thinking of progressive powerups from a mushroom perspective. Link feels like a character change rather than a powerup, so it's easy to forget that it is just a powerup.
We need a whole new meta for Ryu. He plays so fast he skips most of the trolls 😂
yeah, he dashes through all that, someone should made an "if you dash through the level you will die somehow" kinda level
I think Carl appreciates the trolls and wants to know what happens in every direction he goes. Ryu just wants to beat the level. I like both playstyles, but Carls is better for trolls.
Not to mention I highly doubt they don't see each other's content. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was not his first time seeing this level.
Dark very true
@@jayjax229 It certainly doesn't seem like it. Unless Ryu's reactions were fake, lots of those trolls wouldn't work if you knew the troll, especially the last one, which was shown on Carl's channel. Most good and consistent content creators don't watch other stuff due to time constraints- the work is good because they spend a lot of time on it.
11:45 It _is_ a checkpoint, it's just the one you already have. The ON/OFF switch changes the room to appear as the original room.
How's that work?
The on/off switch was different when he re-entered, causing some things to spawn differently, or not spawn at all by getting in the way
On top while he was in another room ofscreen-Bombs destroyed the blocks. The On/Off only changed the clowncar and the Blasters. (Sorry for my spelling; iam German)
@@widergrollen Danke :)
I love that Zelda troll level. Pure genius.
It should've just been the ice block crushing the swords, instead of the giant "don't get link". So then people would get an idea but still be kind of unsure, instead of the level telling them
@@gamejitzu agreed. The fact they give you the solution makes it less trolly.
zelda
In the Link level, "What is different when you are not Link?" The answer is progressive powerups. Mushrooms move and activate notebooks. Fire flowers do not. Any creator can track if an area loads with Mario in base state or any powered up state using this trick. However, you cannot track between different powered up states using this.
@MPDeity To be fair...
_It is surprisingly simple._
12:06 The *perfect* anti-softlock!
Exactly my thoughts xD
Anti-softlocks are the mark of a good troll.
Sad the object falling down onto the track to push the springs back right again, extending the trap that slight bit longer, was edited out of the video. Very much an icing on the cake type moment.
What’s special about this troll level? It’s the final troll level we’ll see of 2019. Been a great year Ryu, I wish you a happy new year.
It's not a new decade though, you gotta wait until 2021 for that.
Edit: quit replying to me if you want the answer then go find it 3 or 4 comments down as of why I think this way. I'm done responding to these comments because I'd rather spend my time on hypixel skyblock forcing my slaves to do work for me.
you really are everywhere in youtube
@@zlabobabil A decade is a span of ten years. 2005 to 2014 is also a decade. So stop telling people what you think is right. ;)
@@zlabobabil how is it not a new decade? whether you count from 0-9 or 1-10, either way its 10 years. 10 years equals a decade.
or are you saying the 21st century didn't start until 2001 either? 🤔
@@julianhogrefe2676
A decade is 10 years. How the Calendar that we use nowadays works is decades are from things like C.E. 1-9, 10-19 because the year 0 is non existent. If you do the math, that leads up to 2011-2020. What I "think" is right actually is. The decade is over according to math but not the calendar.
Ryukahr is so wholesome, I love when he plays these troll levels and doesn't know most of the troll meta and he's just like "what's the point of this thing?" and I'm just thinking "please stay innocent Ryu, don't learn about the evil"
Carl: comes up with really strange meta troll strategies that end up making it harder for him
DGR: comically misses hints to the point he actually realizes the twist on the level without the main hint
Ryu: blows up past most trolls due to skill, trolling himself in the process
I'm loving this twollight princess level and the different approaches by different players.
Ryu: why is it different when you are not Link?
Ceave in my head: Well, it's actually surprisingly simple.
(from speakers) Well, it's actually
(from behind you suddenly) surprisingly
(from inside your head) *s i m p l e*
Hooray!
+ "o" : "oooo0o0o00o0o0o00o0o0o0o0o0o0o00oooooo"
4:36 damn that was clever
It juked left
"The four-way... comin' in every direction" - Ryu
tknomoe _ I came to the comments for this😂 I so badly wanted to know whether I was the only one that thought this
Are we not doing phrasing anymore?
time stamp please
@@mgg_30 Too much information, lol
@@Mngalahad 5:17
Ryu gets Twice-Twiced: Wait. This is a different place? That's so weird!
Carl Sagan: First time?
Goes the same for DGR, he lives for this
Carl Sagan: twice time?
*second time
Ryu: "Then everything changed."
Me: ..."When the Fire Nation attacked."
You too XD
did that asshole move onto his farm yet and cook his own animals yet
?
Lmao! I should have thought the same but I guess I didbt like the intri too much xD
I was about to write that comment.
@@Degenerate_Gentleman Yeah lol, watched the whole series in about a month over my summer break like 5 years ago
DGR: Checkpoint city baby!!!
Ryu: I want that checkpoiiint, I want that checkpoiiintttt
well... it is a beautiful city
Watching Ryu experience (good) troll levels for the first time is so great :D Isn't it amazing the creative stuff people come up with in this game?
PS no more pausing Ryu, gotta go with your gut
PPS Ryu's smile is the best :D
12:19 this is a really good cut, I almost didn't even notice you skipped a good 20 seconds.
GG!
8:20 that one was awesome LOL and the little ghost in the kaizo block xD
This is your last video of 2019 ryukahr see you in 2020
No see you next decade
See you next too decade!
MiniMo MovieMaker dad jokes :/
@13Wayz lol yeah
See all of you in 2020.
You ran IN THE DIRECTION OF THAT FIREBALL and still didn't die :D
that moment when ryu dodges every troll dgr didn't dodge, but dies to one troll dgr dodged xd
Lol what a coincidence that Ryu AND Carl both took a hit at the same part and got to the 'end' because of it in the exact same way which just makes the level so much more mind blowy.
That last level was actually so cool; I can’t believe they found a way to do that/check your power up. People make some amazing levels on this game
It's progressive power ups
_It's surprisingly simple._
With progressive powerups, when you have a powerup, they'll spawn as a higher tier like a fire flower.
When you don't have a powerup, they'll spawn as mushrooms, which can move and activate contraptions.
It is called progressive power ups, it is a feature in the game and takes no skill to create
1:57 “Are you comin back down??”
Carl: falls for every troll and stands in carlbox Ryu: *i am speed*
Its nice watching someone like you play these, and not sandbag and do the same thing 10x just for laughs.
DGR: Right is always right
Ryukahr: Always go left
Me: *goes down* Yes, but actually no
Calebcity reference?
Did you do the meme right?
_Well, yes but actually no_
@@whotheo4878 no, he didn't do it quite right.
Please play more uncleared expert levels! They're my favorite episodes. Mostly because its entertaining to see how you can trudge through bs and occasionally find that delicious cheese. Anyway, Happy New Year! Here's to another year of awesome content
I imagine the link level was a progressive powerup system
Juzcook: the king of falling for every troll
Carl: over thinking it and falling for your own trolls
Ryu: falling for the trolls only after the nth replay of the section
Happy new year to everyone in my timezone
11:45 it is the CP2 room, it looks like a CP because it is one but you already have it. The blasters are moved and it is a different clown car.
To answer your questions, in the first level, it's CP 2 that you drop into first, but the switch configuration is different so cannons spawn differently making it look like CP 1 and a different door is revealed. In the second level, it's just a bit of progressive power up magic causing mushrooms vs fire flowers to spawn to do different things.
Ryu: Just go left!
Me: But... Right is always right! (cit. DGR)
ryu playing good/hard troll levels = youtube gold...how the freak is he the illest mario maker player in the game?? ryu u blow my mind with your swift skills and witty banter. im addicted.
i love that you're getting into the troll levels ryu, there is so much more to explore yet.
Watching Ryu play troll levels is just delightful since he just goes for it rather than thinking hard about how he's going to die. Such a wild change from watching Juz and Carl.
When a Link map is secretly not a Link map XD
You have to earn becoming Link
credits to that lvl design. when you dont get the link the vine will appear, and then you can get the link in that room where the flag is.
@12:30 I believe that "fake" CP is CP2, which is still flagged as collected because it is your most recent Checkpoint. However, with all the Switches and gizmos going off, different Cannons are present/missing giving you access to a different door out of the room. Switches have done a huge amount for the creative capacity of level makers in that you can make 2 (or even more) versions of the same room, using the actual same room.
That said, there IS also a Checkpoint duping glitch I saw in a recent Juz video for MM2 which lets someone place at least a 3rd CP.
@17:40 I believe there is something with the Link costume where a spawned Mushroom will become a Master Sword if you are already Link.
Swords don't move when spawned, but Mushrooms slide. As such, the Mushroom activates a mechanism which triggers the Wisdom vine. If you're Link, it won't be a Mushroom, thereby trapping you.
And, of course, the same effect is used in all the various challenge rooms to allow you to progress via events only as not-Link.
6:45 Ryu, our precious anti-softlock virgin.
except he have a wife
12:36 it’s CP2 again. He blew up the blocks and had another door behind a bill blaster. He changed the fire clown car to a regular one as well.
I've not seen as good of a plot twist as "DO NOT GET LINK" ever since I watched Shutter Island for the first time.
You can just FEEL the CarlBoxes even when Carl's not playing
Watching Ryu play these vs. watching Carl play these is such a different experience... it feels like Ryu just blazes his way through these levels and dodged so many trolls.
Ultimate troll, they started the trolling in the title.
Hey I made a Link Troll Level.
If you pick up the sword, you cannot beat the level.
Ryukahr is like the perfect combo of CarlBlind and Brave boy
You figured out the link level in like 1/4 the time Dave did
I saw Dave's play through first and totally forgot the twist at the end somehow. I'm really glad that I did.
That's because Dave never went to the section where it actually tells you not to grab Link lol. He only eventually figured it out because he noticed the star was only dropping after he had lost his Link powerup.
@@rovers141 to be fair, dave couldn't get into that section as he spend half the video trying to figure out what a giant "BOMB" sign at the top of the screen was trying to tell him :D
@@rovers141 no not just that, he did the whole level quicker
@@alandelain5757 Aye, he tried arrows, he tried his shield, he tried dashing and evading, he tried his sword over and over, he tried all sorts of stuff, but he just couldn't figure out what the giant "BOMB" sign meant no matter now many times he tried to use everything but bombs to solve the puzzle.
The mechanics people build just with the tools provided are absolutely amazing. That's the best part of troll levels to me.
Regarding your question in the first level about what the creator used to make it so convincingly look like a checkpoint: It was a check point. It was the second checkpoint. You don't collect it because that is the checkpoint you already have. The reason the door leads somewhere else is because it's a different door. The on/off blocks are in a different position the second time you enter the room, so the cannons are in different positions. They are now covering the first door you used and revealing the second. That's also what allowed you to actually CP1 yourself if you try to out smart the level by using the blue on/off block to go backwards. It wasn't there before, so that pipe was inaccessible
I’ve been enjoying these troll levels, because they show you cool game mechanics that you normally don’t get to see
Oh that checkpoint troll is nice, and actually somewhat simple. To answer ryu's question: It looks like a checkpoint because it is a checkpoint. However, this time he didn't spawn from the left, but from above, which messes with the way the launchers spawn. If you look at CP2 with the red clown car, you can see there's 6 blocks between the checkpoint and the launchers, but when he reenters from above, there's only 3 blocks inbetween.
Ryu, the second level was different when you were not link because of progressive power-ups. Imagine a bomb under a note block that drops a muncher. There is a progressive power-up a few tiles to the side of it. When you are link, the power-up is a fireflower or master sword, which does not move and stays in place, not activating the note block. Without a power-up on Mario, the progressive power-up is a mushroom, which moves over and activates the note block, activating the bomb. Hope this clears it up! ;)
The answer to the link level is surprisingly simple ;) Progressive powerups,so if your small it's a mushroom and it runs over a noteblock to activate whatever, if youre link it's a sword/fireflower and does not move to activate the block.
that first level was one of few troll levels that actually had great thought and planning put into it. i don't even have a switch but i'd play that stage.
I must admit, I never appreciated how great troll level design could be until I found this channel; patience is a virtue! Thanks for all the laughs in 2019, ryukahr, and best wishes for the next decade 🎉
More Ryukahr troll levels! It's so fun watching you tackle these, since you have a very different mentality than DGR, Carl, etc. :)
A level that actually CP1'd you instead of just pretending to! Refreshing.
Perfect. 5 minutes ago I was looking for a ryukahr troll level video when I oppened my pop corn. This was uploaded 6 minutes ago.
It comes in handy :D
I love how Ryu had a troll level epiphany during an endless no skip run, and now he became a troll fan. This was a super fun video, and hopefully more will come :)
I'm so glad you played this level! And I can't wait for the many more TROLLS to come!
DGR: Makes a video with 1 troll level.
Ryu: Does 2 in one video.
The creativity on these troll levels is top-notch.
I love how ryu is playing trolls now!
9 bucks says the last level had to do with progressive power up mechanics. Link=Fire Flowers that don't move. Wee Mario=Mushrooms that activate Music Blocks.
Fun fact: the zelda troll level is impossible to beat in multiplayer
I feel like those troll levels are built specifically for people like Carl which is why Ryu gets through them so easily.
The Trolls must adapt!
@8:30 you gotta respect respect the fact they put that ghost there instead of making you wait 430 seconds.. props to Bear wear
Every troll level does that
I love that link troll level and I’m so glad I got to see Ryu play it because just like he, I too was stunned at the true path. You must have the courage to just play as Mario, you must have the power to go alone, and you must have the wisdom to not be Link.
The last level works because of mushroom detection contraptions, which take advantage of progressive power ups. Essentially, the game can know weather or not you have a power up.
Ryukahr discovering a love for troll levels is my favorite new thing. This is awesome.
1.31 the bullet blasters under the bridge and the muncher shooting turning the cannon reminds me on the level i played one hour ago
Ryu + Trolls = Perfection
That level has got to be one of the best thought out levels in a while
If anyone else was wondering;
The song played in the Zelda level is: Ocarina Of Time - Great Fairys Fountain
Just spent 45 minutes going through multiple Zelda playlists.. :)
If you uave played zelda you weren't wondering haha it's in basically every zelda. (Like bruh, go play zelda)
@@RiahGreen,
My comment was not directed towards the people who already knew it, so I dont really see your response necessary...
@@ludvig1001 mostly just wanted to reccomend some really gud games
When I saw Link Troll level by Carl I thought it was going to be "It's Dangerous to Go at All", please play it Ryu
Thanks so much for playing Twoll-light Princess Ryu! Don’t feel bad - so many people lose the powerup, see different things happen, but don’t realize why that would matter until they get to the Wisdom Room. 😈
Also to answer your question, the whole level is done with progressive powerups. When you’re Link, the powerups evolve into fire flowers, which are stationary and don’t do anything. When you’re non-Link, they devolve into mushrooms, which move around to activate certain things I’ve set up in the level. 🤓
Happy new year, looking forward to another year/decade of watching Ryu videos! 😄🎉
The new year's resolution for Ryu should be doing a Troll series like Juz and Carl !
It's actually funny how you and Carl both finished the Zelda troll level in the same way by taking damage right before wisdom and getting really confused
some1 probably already told you, but in the first lvl the 'fake checkpoint' is actually cp2... you can't collect it because it is already active. The room is changed by clever (different) launcher placements. (There is probably a check to determine wether you enter from above or below to decide which door you can access)
That first bear level you played, I played that not too long ago, it's a really fun troll level that I thoroughly enjoyed too!
Farewell Ryukahr 2019! Been a fantasmic year!
DGR : I'm gonna try every troll contraption ever !!! And i will softlock myself in the process !
Watcher : *insert Just Do It meme
~
Carl : What is that, why is that, how is that ???
Watcher : the left, the left..., just go to the left !
~
Ryu : I don't know what i'm doing but it works !
Watcher : He's a god !
The last troll uses progressive power ups, if you are link they will all be fired lowers and won’t move, BUT If you are mario then they end up being mushrooms and probably move onto something like a noteblock to trigger the setups!
“The clown car sucks you up and then drags you down”
Sounds just like my ex
That was an M. Night Shamalayamanan tier twist
If anyone's curious how the last level worked: progressive power-up. When you're Link, the mushrooms offstage are instead fire flowers, and do not trigger a lot of background stage elements as a result.
Aaaah, someone already beat me to it! Dang.
when i saw dgr play that zelda troll level for the first time it acxtually blew my mind. i have never seen such a great lateral thinking puzzle devised in the form of a mario level
Ryu vs the Bears was an amazing troll watch. Thanks!
"Dude four way, coming in every direction man" - ryu 2019/2020
That was a bigger plot twist than most media are capable of providing
Now I've seen Dave, Poo, and you play these troll levels. It gets funnier every time.
Love that Ryu is starting to enjoy troll levels more!
I heard from the creator of Twoll-light Princess on a comment on another video that he uses progressive powerups to achieve the effect. If player = Link, powerups = Flowers, and nothing is activated. If player = Mario, then powerups = Mushrooms that travel a little ways to activate all the stuff that enables clearing the level as small Mario.
Watching Ryu play this level compare to DGR Dave is a completely different experience
Agreed.
It's quite funny to watch and compair the two on how they both solved the level in different ways.
Now if only someone could explain HOW it works. . . Because I don't know.
@@Mac_Omegaly How The Trolls Work?
@@papercaracal12
Yes. What in the game changes if you are Mario, and not Link.
Or is it something in the game that changes if you are Link and not Mario.
At first I thought it was something to do with the level entity limit. But that didn't seem to be the case.
Might be something another Mario Maker channel has covered.
@@Mac_Omegaly I Didn't Know About It Before Reading The Comments But It's To Do With Progressive Power-Ups. So Basically The Difference Between The Mushroom And Fire Flower Is One Is Static And One Isn't Which Means If Mario Is Link Then A Mushroom Won't Change Your State So The Game Spawns A Fire Flower Which Won't Move At All, But If Mario Is Normal A Mushroom Appears So That Mario Moves Up One Stage (Normal --> Big --> Fire/Huge) And A Mushroom Isn't Stuck To One Place So If You Put A Note Block (Or Something Similar) Then The Mushroom Will Move Onto It, It'll Trigger It Where A Fire Flower Wouldn't. There Are Other Ways To Do Something Similar But This Is The One In Question.
Troll levels are good if there's a way to solve the troll before hand, otherwise they get a boo from me.
Ryu troll level on New Years Eve? Great way to start the year!
Progressive power ups. Mushrooms move and can trigger note blocks, but fire flowers don’t.
Ryu is just too innocent and pure to appreciate the carlbox troll levels
both levels are mindfucks. duplicate rooms and having two versions of the level for mario/link!
It was the same level, progressive power ups made it different when you were link.
@@xian2themax I'm aware, I wasn't saying that was two levels entirely. That's why it was a mindfuck.