Discovered your channel through your comments on Buildzoid’s channel. This is a great video! I bought this card and started to panic after watching his video. This was by far the cheapest 4090 option available in the U.K. at £1730. Though the VRM and PCB are disappointing they should hopefully last for a good few years especially at stock OC’s… I hope. I just can’t justify paying £300-500 more for an ASUS/MSI and they have their own issues apparently such as coil whine. Anyway, thanks, I appreciated your thoroughness. Subbed.
Thanks! To be honest the VRMs are much less important on the 4090 than it was in the 3090 cards. 4090 just pull much less current that even base VRMs like these I have tried to work fine even with shunt mods.
I’m so glad you found my comment on another video letting me know my 4090 Suprim X is a good pcp. Your kindness to respond with good or bad news is appreciated (luckily it was good lol). I’m a new subscriber to you now.
3x8 pin Gamerock Omniblack has the same board and in this case 16 phases is more than enough for sure. Running my unit at 2850 Mhz @ 985 mV and 400W. I spent 1800$ on it and feel sorry for those who paid 700$ more from the last saving for Strix or Suprim.
Would you recommend the palit game rock model of this card over the galax SG? These are the two models that are available in my country also a video for which 4090 to buy and which to avoid would be nice
How is the card for coil whine? Many of the Asus and MSI cards are plagued with it. I have now tried 3xMSI, 2x Asus and 1xZotac. The Zotac had half the amount of coil whine, but the fans...well, fan motors were horrible.
Cool video, will wait patiently for all the 4090 models video for their power and cooling possibilities :) ps: Nvidia just officially kicked off Crypto mining 2.0 by removing LHR in the just released 522.25 driver, also all RTX 4090s are sold out and ebay has them at 2x and 3x prices. Jensen wins again, and gamers will cry a lot. "High PC Graphics Card Prices Are Here To Stay" - Jensen 2022
This isn't the first time we've seen 3 slot GPUs becoming norm nowadays. There are a few GPUs such as Gigabyte GTX 680 SOC, high end ASUS DirectCU II cards (GTX 580/680, HD 6970/7970), and Powercolor HD 7970 Red Devil having 3 slot just for either big cooler or intended to be more powerful than vanilla. Thanks for the review though!
I have the phantom 4090 its exactly the same just different cooler shroud, all the people that go on about how bad it’s vrm ect is need to realise these cards in 99% of cases beat the strix and other such models, as for cooling it’s just as good as the strix
I got Palit also and was wondering why it have 4 connectors (enables 600+W) but doesnt go beyond 560W in my case, however I saw its going beyond 3ghz then I noticed thats as much as Strix + FE reach anyway, so maybe that extra 100W is not needed anyway. one thing to try is to flash bios which I done before but with these new connectors maybe risky, wont do it now and I dont need it anyway, Palit have a good reviews how good it does in OCing hence I choose Palit over other offerings, as Strix too expensive, did also a power draw from wall test with 5800X and found with all USB devices working including Pimax VR headset and max was 709W from wall when both CPU + GPU under stress test and overclocked edit: btw 2 Strix reviewers managed around 200pts less Port Royal score than yours, I personally didnt try yet on mine as I just did +120mhz to core and 1000+ mhz to memory and called it a day for rest of this 4090 life lol
Yea it doesn’t really need more than 500W in actual games but in benchmarks it helps to increase the scores a little by not throttling at all. I’ve actually now shunt modded mine and got higher scores lol the VRM held up fine too so there’s that. It can hit 3045mhz sustained without throttling now but for sure consumes more power. You can probably do +1700mhz on the memory no problem on your card but the core offset is almost maxed anyways.
@@OTechnology Yeah other reviewers who did Palit mentioned it have highest memory OC stability.... Damn you already went and did shunt mode, if I was you I would have at least tried different bios flashing first like Strix or FE bios 🤣, but you took the higher risk one, I won't take any risk on mine, way too expensive to do it, I did on 3080 bios flashing many times but not this lol
That VRM power phase cost cutting will make me stay away from the Gamerock this gen. Only 16 phases? the others have a minimum of 20. Why Palit did this is strange. They have one of the best VRMs with the 30-series
Since there are less reviews of Gainward Phantom, mostly being previews or just unboxings, do you think that it is possible that Phantom uses the same PCB as the Palit ( GameRock )? I ask because in my country Gainward Phantom and Palit GameRock are the most affordable 4080/4090s and I wish I'd go for the Phantom because of asthetics but I don't mind Palit also, unless I took the PCB analysis to the heart. Thanks in advance!
@O!Technology Hey having had enough time to look at the 4090 roster now, which card would you recommend in terms of build quality (pcb, cooler etc..) and performance?
I really wanted to know if the difference between the OC and SEM model, which card do you recommend that is very cold and silent? and if possible without coil whine
Hello. I have a Palitv4090 gamerock video card not OC. It warms up to 77 on chip and 94 on Hotspot at peak loads. Is this normal? Will there be no harm to my video card? Will these temperatures shorten its lifespan?
@@notchipotle it will be never available in my Country because of electronic products import ban. I should go to Singapore to buy the RTX 4090 but Flight ticket is cost alone over 1000 dollars so buying RTX 4090 is not worth it at all
Anyone had a problem with artefacts with this card? Both the whole computer with this card couple weeks ago and after 1.5-2h of playing Assetto Corsa on triple full hd screen there are artefacts on one of the monitors 😢 I install new drivers and seem to be ok but tbh I don’t really believe it will solve the problem. Anyone can share an advice or experiences?
I got it in port royal at 25.528 and oc 26.157 but it scores less by 1k in timespy extreme.. its wierd.. im runing the ryzen 7950x ddr5 6000, hero 670e.. I updated the bios on the Gamerock and its actually slower now, I wish I could put the old bios back !!!
I got the old bios from tech power up and now im getting 19.757 so i`m happy again, anyway thanks for the video as you got me to upgrade to the Gamerock !
@@OTechnology Ooh ok I was about to get a 4090 but I'm still waiting for the 4090 palit to be released , in my opinion is looks better than the other models.
достаточно 2 косы по 2* 8 пин, стандарт проводов выдерживает на 2*8 пина - 300 Вт, 4*8 пин = 600 Вт? WTF? (300 Вт - это с запасом, если что) 16 стандарт проводов!
Palit produces cards with a very weak power section and only when they change It, I will buy a card From them,if they do not start cards well,they do not want take this scrap.Yes it's Jus Asus strix kfa 2 hof can msi suprime x.
I agree the VRM is very disappointing. Then again in this gen it is not nearly as important as in the 30 series. But still I would recommend the other cards over this.
For 500W bios it's enough, even with 600w bios, the VRM itself enough, buildzoids just speak to much.. as always... the VRM rated for 800W, I realy don't understand the cry...
Discovered your channel through your comments on Buildzoid’s channel. This is a great video! I bought this card and started to panic after watching his video. This was by far the cheapest 4090 option available in the U.K. at £1730. Though the VRM and PCB are disappointing they should hopefully last for a good few years especially at stock OC’s… I hope. I just can’t justify paying £300-500 more for an ASUS/MSI and they have their own issues apparently such as coil whine. Anyway, thanks, I appreciated your thoroughness. Subbed.
Thanks! To be honest the VRMs are much less important on the 4090 than it was in the 3090 cards. 4090 just pull much less current that even base VRMs like these I have tried to work fine even with shunt mods.
@@OTechnology Thank you for enlightening and reassuring me sir! 👍
I’m so glad you found my comment on another video letting me know my 4090 Suprim X is a good pcp. Your kindness to respond with good or bad news is appreciated (luckily it was good lol). I’m a new subscriber to you now.
So basically the backplate is only there for looks and not for dissipating any heat...great design...
3x8 pin Gamerock Omniblack has the same board and in this case 16 phases is more than enough for sure. Running my unit at 2850 Mhz @ 985 mV and 400W. I spent 1800$ on it and feel sorry for those who paid 700$ more from the last saving for Strix or Suprim.
I know right? Mine arrived yesterday, the fact that some cards are still near or well over 2k is absurd!
Спасибо вам за работу, лучший в этом сегменте! Жду общий свод всех видеокарт 4090)
You're welcome! Thank you for your support. The Which RTX 4090 to BUY video will come in a few days.
@@OTechnology hi there! Is such a video still planned or do you have no time for such ambitious things anymore? :)
I'll just admire how great the 4000 series are 🤣 used 3080Ti looks really good right now
I would get used 3090s if you're going that route. They're $700 ish and you get 24GB VRAM.
@@OTechnology 24GB VRAM is cool but Gamers don't need that yet, maybe in 3 years when we have 1TB sized games on UE5 with super high resolutions.
Would you recommend the palit game rock model of this card over the galax SG? These are the two models that are available in my country also a video for which 4090 to buy and which to avoid would be nice
How is the card for coil whine? Many of the Asus and MSI cards are plagued with it. I have now tried 3xMSI, 2x Asus and 1xZotac. The Zotac had half the amount of coil whine, but the fans...well, fan motors were horrible.
great video. Will you make a guide for all rtx 4090 as you did for the rtx 3000?
Yes I will for sure!
Cool video, will wait patiently for all the 4090 models video for their power and cooling possibilities :)
ps: Nvidia just officially kicked off Crypto mining 2.0 by removing LHR in the just released 522.25 driver, also all RTX 4090s are sold out and ebay has them at 2x and 3x prices.
Jensen wins again, and gamers will cry a lot. "High PC Graphics Card Prices Are Here To Stay" - Jensen 2022
If you don't want jensen to win, buy an intel ARC. But ofc nobody wants to sacrifice hmself for the greater good
Late to the party but thanks for the TDP performance scaling information. Helpful :)
This isn't the first time we've seen 3 slot GPUs becoming norm nowadays. There are a few GPUs such as Gigabyte GTX 680 SOC, high end ASUS DirectCU II cards (GTX 580/680, HD 6970/7970), and Powercolor HD 7970 Red Devil having 3 slot just for either big cooler or intended to be more powerful than vanilla. Thanks for the review though!
Ofcourse but in this generation it seems its designs are 3-slots MINIMUM only. Thank you for your support!
i need the buyers guide as soon as possible. I can't make up my mind on which to get 😵💫
Coming soon!
Whats the 2 x 8 pin solder joints on the board at time stamp 11.20 onwards?
Any noticeable fans noise?
I have the phantom 4090 its exactly the same just different cooler shroud, all the people that go on about how bad it’s vrm ect is need to realise these cards in 99% of cases beat the strix and other such models, as for cooling it’s just as good as the strix
Hi can you make a review video on Maxsun rtx 3080 they are selling it for almost 30-40% less then the original price.
The price and amount of power cables to run it is a massive turn off
One power cable only on a ATX 3.0 Pcie 5 PSU.
I got Palit also and was wondering why it have 4 connectors (enables 600+W) but doesnt go beyond 560W in my case, however I saw its going beyond 3ghz then I noticed thats as much as Strix + FE reach anyway, so maybe that extra 100W is not needed anyway.
one thing to try is to flash bios which I done before but with these new connectors maybe risky, wont do it now and I dont need it anyway, Palit have a good reviews how good it does in OCing hence I choose Palit over other offerings, as Strix too expensive, did also a power draw from wall test with 5800X and found with all USB devices working including Pimax VR headset and max was 709W from wall when both CPU + GPU under stress test and overclocked
edit: btw 2 Strix reviewers managed around 200pts less Port Royal score than yours, I personally didnt try yet on mine as I just did +120mhz to core and 1000+ mhz to memory and called it a day for rest of this 4090 life lol
Yea it doesn’t really need more than 500W in actual games but in benchmarks it helps to increase the scores a little by not throttling at all.
I’ve actually now shunt modded mine and got higher scores lol the VRM held up fine too so there’s that. It can hit 3045mhz sustained without throttling now but for sure consumes more power. You can probably do +1700mhz on the memory no problem on your card but the core offset is almost maxed anyways.
@@OTechnology Yeah other reviewers who did Palit mentioned it have highest memory OC stability....
Damn you already went and did shunt mode, if I was you I would have at least tried different bios flashing first like Strix or FE bios 🤣, but you took the higher risk one, I won't take any risk on mine, way too expensive to do it, I did on 3080 bios flashing many times but not this lol
@@TRX25EX and how it's going with your palit 4090 is it good card worth to buy?
Very useful video, thanks 👍
when I read "faster than 3090ti". my head is gonna explode holy goat!
Hey, would we see a video for the best 4090 to get? Like your tops for the 3080, 3080TI, and 3090. Will really help when choosing what to buy. Thanks!
Love to see a similar analysis on the Zotac Trinity and the Inno3d Xchill
dont bother with inno3d
quality and vram is very lacking
also fans makes more noise
That VRM power phase cost cutting will make me stay away from the Gamerock this gen. Only 16 phases? the others have a minimum of 20. Why Palit did this is strange. They have one of the best VRMs with the 30-series
I know I was quite dissatisfied too. Their 30 series had pretty great VRMs.
@@OTechnology Same for me. Looking elsewhere now.
Since there are less reviews of Gainward Phantom, mostly being previews or just unboxings, do you think that it is possible that Phantom uses the same PCB as the Palit ( GameRock )?
I ask because in my country Gainward Phantom and Palit GameRock are the most affordable 4080/4090s and I wish I'd go for the Phantom because of asthetics but I don't mind Palit also, unless I took the PCB analysis to the heart.
Thanks in advance!
ty for review
You're welcome!
@O!Technology Hey having had enough time to look at the 4090 roster now, which card would you recommend in terms of build quality (pcb, cooler etc..) and performance?
you should do a radeon vs rtx benchmark video, ive been struggling to figure out which one to get
I really wanted to know if the difference between the OC and SEM model, which card do you recommend that is very cold and silent? and if possible without coil whine
Hello. I have a Palitv4090 gamerock video card not OC. It warms up to 77 on chip and 94 on Hotspot at peak loads. Is this normal? Will there be no harm to my video card? Will these temperatures shorten its lifespan?
got the 4070ti palit gamerock with annoying coilwhine and weird fan noise even on the losest speed i m wondering if the 4080/90 using better fans
What was GPU hotspot?
is this good card?
Do you think it’s safe to flash the gamerock oc bios onto the none oc model? Is the hardware the same just different bios between the 2 models?
you're fine anyways since you have dual bios
graphic bricks!
ikr, it's silly to call that a "card" 🤣
I found the English version 😅.
Can you please do a video on how to shunt mod?
ways to do it
performance expectations
cautions
good gpu candidates
Man I really want this card but I can't find it anywhere it's so depressing
Very beautiful card too bad RTX 4090s are not available in my country
not yet available or it will not be available ?
@@notchipotle it will be never available in my Country because of electronic products import ban. I should go to Singapore to buy the RTX 4090 but Flight ticket is cost alone over 1000 dollars so buying RTX 4090 is not worth it at all
@@Decki777 are u in north korea
Where are you from?
@@hyperninja_-z brazil probably i think its crazy taxes for anything they can get too
Your cpu is a bottleneck.
Thanks for the Video 👌
I mean at the settings I run it at upgrading to a 12900K or a 7950X probably will make little difference.
did anyone find on the end of the pcb there are places for two 8pin power connecters？
Yes there seems to be places to solder on 8-pin connectors.
Only 4090 card in my country, which fits into a smaller case.
Anyone had a problem with artefacts with this card? Both the whole computer with this card couple weeks ago and after 1.5-2h of playing Assetto Corsa on triple full hd screen there are artefacts on one of the monitors 😢 I install new drivers and seem to be ok but tbh I don’t really believe it will solve the problem. Anyone can share an advice or experiences?
If an update solve the problem, thats it, otherwise, artifact can be specific game problem.
I got it in port royal at 25.528 and oc 26.157 but it scores less by 1k in timespy extreme.. its wierd.. im runing the ryzen 7950x ddr5 6000, hero 670e..
I updated the bios on the Gamerock and its actually slower now, I wish I could put the old bios back !!!
Where did you get the updated bios?
@@OTechnology The oficial website
I got the old bios from tech power up and now im getting 19.757 so i`m happy again, anyway thanks for the video as you got me to upgrade to the Gamerock !
How tf did you get the 4090 palit and also how much was it ?
It's a review sample
@@OTechnology Ooh ok I was about to get a 4090 but I'm still waiting for the 4090 palit to be released , in my opinion is looks better than the other models.
@@OTechnology If they don't let you have the card after the GPU review, how will you manage to get one for MSRP now?
How do you turn off the RGB?
Hi, Is it a true 3.0 slots card?
It’s almost 4 slots
@@OTechnology Okay so is there any true 3.0 slots 4090 model?, which model is the smallest?
достаточно 2 косы по 2* 8 пин, стандарт проводов выдерживает на 2*8 пина - 300 Вт, 4*8 пин = 600 Вт? WTF? (300 Вт - это с запасом, если что) 16 стандарт проводов!
What is LN2?
Palit produces cards with a very weak power section and only when they change It, I will buy a card From them,if they do not start cards well,they do not want take this scrap.Yes it's Jus Asus strix kfa 2 hof can msi suprime x.
I agree the VRM is very disappointing. Then again in this gen it is not nearly as important as in the 30 series. But still I would recommend the other cards over this.
@@OTechnology the VRAM is not great? Or what are the negatives about this gpu?
Well and what is the proce for Asus, MSI etc? 400-600 USD more.
@@OTechnologyhi, is it really that bad to get this ? will it last warranty period?
RGB rainbow 🌈 vomit 🤢. Is my favorite…
graphic BRICK！That‘s right 🤣🤣🤣
Watch buildzoids video on this card.. its garbage apparently
That's what I said too on the VRM.
If you use this card with no over clocking.. It will be fine surely won't just break within warranty?
For 500W bios it's enough, even with 600w bios, the VRM itself enough, buildzoids just speak to much.. as always... the VRM rated for 800W, I realy don't understand the cry...