Curator's tour of Tantra: enlightenment to revolution exhibition at the British Museum
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- Exhibition curator Imma Ramos takes you on a guided tour of the British Museum's latest exhibition Tantra: enlightenment to revolution.
Tantra: enlightenment to revolution
Supported by the Bagri Foundation
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00:00 Introduction to Tantra: enlightenment to revolution
00:50 Sacred Texts of Tantra
01:36 The rise of Tantra in Medieval India
03:20 Yoginis and their Temples
05:04 Women as Tantric Practitioners
05:54 Tantric Yoga
06:32 Yoginis as Gurus
08:21 The rise and spread of Tantra
10:11 The use of Human Remains in Tantric Practice
12:11 Tantra during Colonial British Rule in India
13:33 Kali as a symbol of Independent India
14:45 Tantra from the 20th century to today
15:44 Tantra in Britain and the USA
16:22 Kali and The Rolling Stones tongue logo
16:49 Tantra today
17:55 'And all the while the benevolent slept' by Bharti Kher
18:18 'Housewives with Steak-knives' by Sutapa Biswas
18:46 Conclusion
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haha give the items back to the origianal owners ,not profit from history and then ask for handouts , feckin cheek
@kalunda While I might agree with the principle about returning artifacts to their native nations, there is a question of if the artifacts are better off there, considering the lack of budget and corruption within Indian institutions which has led to poor ratings on accuracy, maintenance and presentation from neutral groups like UNESCO and the National Museum of Natural History burning down because it was poorly maintained and the sprinkler system was entirely for show, which is a fairly common story in India.
Not to mention the current government's political biases and how that may affect preserving or funding the preservation of these artifacts, within my lifetime Hindu nationals burned down a mosque and started a riot that killed thousands of Muslim Indians. More recently the court handed over all of the land to the same Hindu nationals.
There is also a genuine question of how legal some ownership is and where it came from, not everything is from the Empire stealing it, some is from the museum buying it from the legal and rightful owner. Most of the exhibits in say the National Museum in New Delhi were purchased privately by the museum. The rest are gifts or loans.
The promoting racism part is just ignorant garbage. IF you wanted to have a real conversation about things being stolen then use logic and reasoning, not hate filled lines fed to you by a politician or conspiracy site.
@Krishna's Yoddha Go back to the land which you claim to be treasuring so much - every single of you, hypocrits. And build a civilised state, which would treat its people with respect, let alone the historical treasures. Only then, your treasures might follow .
Never thought I'd take a tour of a BM exhibition while all cosy in bed. Superb work, really insightful. Thank you, Ms Ramos and all the team involved!
Dear Ms Curator Ramos. This Museum must be proud of your contributions. You rock. Don't stop.
The curator is both beautiful and intelligent, and I love her work.
Unknown things are more interesting with a story/history lesson. Thanks for that.
The most beautiful curator in the world!! 💜
Excellent video. Just goes to show how many misconceptions people (myself included) may have about foreign beliefs.
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It's called ignorance, and common in your part of Europe.
Fascinating and wondrous. Thank for this beautiful and inspiring video.
Thanks for this wonderful tour. Could listen to Ms Ramos for hours 😻
Thank you for providing an informative online tour of the exhibition. It is so appreciated in these times. Fantastic work xx
This was excellent. Thank you so much for posting this.
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What a great tour! I'm so glad I got to see this. I was planning to see it in person.
Brilliant, thank you.
What a treat to share such a well-produced and lucid explanation. A+
I've got some research to do over my winter break it looks like.
Love the video, absolutely fascinating!
This is a wonderful video - educational and enlightening. Imma Ramos narrates perfectly... Well done!
Another door opens. Thank you
Love to see this.Totally my thing.
What a brilliant Exhibition! Thank you
I’ve never been to British Museum yet! Actually after watching this wonderful documentary film, I’m really so keen on visiting here! I hope to have the chance after the difficult time, if everything is good.
Brilliant analysis. Brings to mind the great symbolic interpretations of religious iconography of Joseph Campbell.
Thanks so much for offering this tour!!!
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Thank you so much for another wonderful video.
What an amazing exhibition! Congrats and well done!! 👏👏👌🏼
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thank you, very educational and beautiful examples.
Fascinating presentation! Thank you!
Great vídeo, great tour and explanation.
You are awesome, thanks for share with us.
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Very interesting video. Highlighted my misconceptions of Yoga and Tantra. Bonus that Sr Ramos is beautiful...as well as super smart!
Thank you so much!
Very interesting and informative! Really well put together and wonderful speaker. Great job 😄
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Thank you for the wonderful explanation 😊
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Thank you Ms Ramos for this insightful video. I wish I was back in London, I would have loved to have visited the exhibition
That was fascinating !
I have only just seen this excellent video, but am glad to have visited the exhibition in November 2020. I went knowing probably worse than nothing about Tantra, and left with lasting respect for what its adherents created. My plan to return for a second visit was thwarted by the ensuing government lockdown. Ms Ramos's clear and well researched book of the exhibition, 'Tantra', is the only such book I have ever read from cover to cover.
A wonderful well narrated & fascinating documentary. Can we have some more...
Next week, same time, Arctic exhibition
Great intro... can't wait to visit my favourite museum soon🙏
Hope you get to come soon. Stay safe
Oh wow! Tantra as counter culture. Mind blown!
Thank you so much
Really fascinating lecture and tour Imma. It was great to get some background on the divine feminine ❤️
Thanks for the video. Wonderful channel.
Yes..exquisite woman,beautifully articulated lecture and a delicious topic. 100% charming.💃♀️
The Rolling Stones' Album Cover is an intriguing detail of Tantra's influence!
Hahaha Goat's Head Soup? My parents actually had a copy of this, I gave it away as a teenager, not knowing what I had. I'm still not a big Rolling Stones fan, but it would have been nice to have anyway, if only to sell (more of a Led Zeppelin / Pink Floyd guy.)
A really interesting presentation. Thank you.
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great video thank you very much
Thank you
This topic is fascinating - have always wanted to see the texts with my own eyes- too bad it's impossible now to get to the exhibit from abroad. Nonetheless, love watching Imma Ramos who is just stunningly beautiful, smart and articulate
with a lopsided mouth.
Oh, I love Chamunda! I saw her at the MET.
I learned some new things today. Cool vid.
amazing !
Fascinating insights into tantric spirituality...
Thank you and have a great day.
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amazing
She’s gorgeous. The curator.
chosath Yogini temple is in Madhya Pradesh Central India near Jabalpur.
Interesting to see the turtle and the snake shown in the lower chakras in one presentation, because in combination they represent xuan wu in one Daoist tradition connected to Wudangshan. The parallels of visual metaphers (possibly as part of the journey of Buddhism from India to China) between some cultures is always interesting to see - esoecially since xuan wu has female and male incarnations and is warrior-god and a shen of medicine at the same time.
Very interesting presentation all around. Thanks for this. Really loking forward to get to Lobdon and the British Museum again.
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Indian ,Chinese and Tibetan had almost same philosophy of life which then we then went to Japan.
thanks for telling this detail!! as a student of art history i find the travels of imagery in central to east asia most interesting and deserving more exploration!
very impressive
I would have ceremonially (but only symbolically) given my left leg to have seen this wonderful exhibition,...lucky those
Wow.
Excellent
I very much enjoyed and appreciated this video, thank you.
(You got my appreciation and relief just for pronouncing 'dissection' correctly - ie with the first syllable as 'diss-', rather than the increasingly common and incorrect 'die-'!!!)
Amazing, interesting and yet so far from my reality. Spanning ages, it is fortunate to have this available on youtube, and be able to re-watch it again at my own pace.
As for Kali not being demonic I'm still wondering why Yudishtira, after his apocalyptic vision of the future explains "it is the age of Kali, the black time". But that is with Indian culture and philosophy, it is veiled in multiple layers of non-western understanding.
Thanks to the British Museum and Miss Ramos for lifting some of these veils here.
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@@leonh67 I did, very nice, top quality.
Perhaps not all destruction is not necessarily demonic. After all, we have Brahma Vishnu Shiva, Creator Preserver Destroyer, aspects, and all of them are holy.
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Interesting topic, thanks for the thoughts...
Age of kali and goddess kali is totally different. They are also spoken and written differently in any indian language. Using english alphabet is creating this confusion.
@@soumyabrataroy4274 Thank you so much for clarification Soumyabrata! This is new for me, and I'm as yet only scratching the surface of India's rich but complex culture and history.
This really was great. I look forward to reading up on some of the deities. Hinduism, Yoga, Tibet. I'd trust a Lama over a politician any day of any life. 👌🏻
I wouldn't trust any of them, both peddle BS. Politics or Religions same shit different name!
@@eddiewinehosen6665 each to their own bud. Personally I'd take an ancient philosphical manuscript on yoga over any political report.
@@krismontykrismonty If interested in Hinduism, I can suggest you Bhagwat Gita, the Hindu Sacred text. If it feels great, then proceed further.
@@neilkamalseal3413 Cheers pal ✌🏻. I've got a few books around here someplace. Courtesy of the Hare Krishnas. My favourite book though is the James malinson critical edition of the Shiva Samhita. I always loved the Mantras. I'm up in Glasgow 🤣 it was the Shiva Mantra I started singing that fit. I didn't have a bloody clue, but it felt like a part I never knew was missing that I'd found. When I did look into the God aspect. Shiva the destroyer, host of raging parties, God of union, Tigers, Snakes, Om, Swastika, Trident he's got a bongo and he dances into trance. Oh and the God of Kush. We've gone from strength to strength 💪😊. Hope your well cheers for the msg
@@krismontykrismonty Oh lord, you connected so much without any physical connection. I believe you are in great hands. Well once you complete your theory, I welcome you to the subcontinent, India atleast once in a lifetime. It can be overwhelming at first but I guess you will manage just fine.😉 Have a great day.
Lovely. X
I want to go there so baaaaad!!!!
This is the most balanced view I have heard on all things - such great work 👏🏻
I will need what time it comes on as I live in Kingston Canada. 8AM SO GULP AND GOLLY!
20.00. 08.00 PM GMT
3 pm EST.
Never thought I'd be the one to criticize anyone who uses the term "voluptuous nudity" in such a relaxed cheery manner, but I think this overview lends itself to confusing Buddhist, Hindu and various yogic traditions. Their goals differ, radically, as do their views of tantric practice and energy. I respect the effort to strip the Western colonial patriarchic interpretations from these practices and images; but offering an introduction that does not discriminate between, histories, intention and varieties of practice confounds what may seem similar images and practices, but are quite distinct. Perhaps the distinctions are drawn out in other presentations. Wonderful production values and presentation nonetheless. Thanks.
I agree and this academic style somehow endorses a limited and false view. Pretty soon the Americans will canibalise it and start their own new commercially motivated movement.
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I was so excited for this exhibition but what with the current situation being what it is I don't know if I'll be able to go in the end :c
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Very Good Prestation Thanks and please do more
Thank you. Whilst I'm a bit familiar with Shiva having lived with Nepal Hindus for several years (late 80's). My memory and opinion of the Dussehra and Diwali festivals was not great. I have visited many places. I have also lived and been fully immersed in most of the world's cultures "by need not design".
I have visited India but had no wish to see or learn more than I already have. Of all the countries in the world it had the least appeal to me.
Maybe its the current global crises, but to be candid my melancholy has been present for sometime. What to do that I have not done.
So thank you again for sparking a curiosity and to be frank a bit of hunger to learn and see more.
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See there is no pressure that you have to feel India great okay. Who knows maybe you have such a happy and blissful life, everything fails to mersmerise you or maybe your focus on material grandeur too much that nothing of this fancy sort mersmerises you. Its okay. All you need to be is happy on this planet and how can you be happy? Not by sorting your own food but by feeding others and make others feed you. Have a nice time.
Can we see more? This was such a good video, and Dr. Ramos is a great presenter!
Unfortunately I can no longer watch this live. Will I be able to view a recording later?
Yep, should be available now
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do I have to get a ticket to participate at the tour?
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Housewives with Steak-knives... hehehe!
I never really knew much about Kali beyond Indiana Jones. I knew the movie is pulp, but I couldn't figure out how this scary goddess could be anything but demonic? This series is very enlightening.
Edit: The musical instruments made from bones are still a bit too macabre for me, though.
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It is MEANT to make you deeply, deeply uncomfortable, though. Any true understanding of difficult, new knowledge is accompanied by discomfort. Just like the abstractions of calculus will make your head spin before you are truly able to use it as a tool to understand the motion of planets and atoms, macabre reminders of human impermanence like bones from the crematorium are meant to shake you out of the comfortable cocoon of your body-centrism and your ego.
Well, that goddess is not demonic. She surpasses demonic. She is the creator of everything, mother of everything. She is black hole and garland of shining stars, all of them. She created gods, demi gods, demons, humans and all other known or unknown life form. And when she sees they are turning cancerous, she devours them. Be that Satan himself or the holiest of god. She is mother of all.
More South Asian exhibitions videos please!
Can I watch it later or will I have to attend at 8pm today?
It will stay live after the premiere, and be available as a regular CZcams video. So you can enjoy it in your own time!
We were told a different story about Kali standing on Shiva by grandma.
In this version, Kali becomes so immersed in war, slaying demons, that she cant stop. Nobody is capable of stopping an enraged Kali, and there is a risk of her destroying the world. So the gods and mortals go to Shiva, her husband as a last resort. Shiva doesn't stop her directly, instead he lays down on her path. Kali, without noticing anything steps on his chest, looks down and regrets it. Thats why her tongue is out. She comes to her senses and the world is saved.
Honest confession: my family is Shaivite. Maybe the Shaivites and Shaktas follow different versions of the story, just my guess.
Na dada apnar thamma thik golpoyi boleyche . .. west twist korey sob kichu according to abrahamic bias ..
I am a Bengali Indian resided in Bengal and indeed Tantrical philosophy like the women leading as godess is a popular theme of life here. And you did excellent research and showered perfect details on everything. Keep up the great work. People should not get misled with surface view of things but should dive a bit deep and know it.
Btw the word "Tan" in Tantra means Body in Sanskrit but I think you said something else.
Tantra means taaNt...ja diye kapor boney..."woven together"..a way to “weave” the physical with the spiritual.
@@MsArijitdas mantra - man diye ja karjo(Work done by mind)
Jantra- Jan ba machine diye ja karjo(Work done by machine)
Tantra- Tanu ba Sorir diye ja karjo (Work done by Body)
Wow. If only I could go see that exhibit. But travel to Britain isn’t possible during COVID, at least not for me.
17:17 - 17:30 Diogenes would have gotten DOWN with the Aghori
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It's Shagadelic baby yeah. So, Shall We Shag Now, Or Shall We Shag Later?” Imma
Miss Ramos, ( hope that’s correct) fab, presentation...This seems a dark form of spiritualism .. skulls and death ... ? You can see why the Victorians would have been freaked out ....
Sorry for barging in. I would like to explain a few things if you think dark spirituality too. The basis of tantra is that there is nothing to be differentiated. God has created all so who are we to judge. We all get happy and wanna touch and cuddle when a baby is born, but shy away, or have fear of death, dead bodies. But if we detach our social, emotional and psychological stigma and see it philosophically, it is just a process. So is eating, drinking, sleeping or having sex, same taking birth and leaving body. We should be indifferent about the life process and embrace it all. Thats why we see tantrics going to extremes( in our eyes) because they have shed their stigmas. They see everything as one. We are bearing various stigmas so we wanna cuddle a cute baby but fear death. Post instagram about food we ate but shy away from speaking about sex. Its just human social nature that tantra practitioners have shed.
Interesting she named all the Hindu deities she discussed, but referred to Heruka Chakrasamvara as "this painting"
How could the British NOT have misunderstood Kali? She was alien to everything they believed.
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What if if was "hedonistic?" Hedonism exists all over the world and people can opt out or opt in, hopefully, most of us at will. I embrace heathenism, but not hedonism, so suffice it to say, I subscribe to a live and let live philosophy and when necessary, separate yourself from what you deem as "unclean and immoral." I certainly do. Good luck to all on your spiritual and physical journey. May you be wise.
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How these sculptures end up there british museum??!!!
How do all those pieces of rare relics from all over the world end up in the country that has "colonized" a good chunk of the world? They surely were all gifts given by the grateful natives.
Ok, that was enough sarcasm for a comment, I'm out
Thay should be returned to their homeland we have no real need for them
If you see the video instead of just leaving a troll comment, you will probably find out. Some come from the Metropolitan Museum of New York.
What is this? Is this Tantra? Arousing. ☯️
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all of these should be returned to India
Thank you for this lovely guide. I’ts a bit of a glaring omission that you mentioned nothing at all about the methods and materials of construction nor the craftsmen and women who created them. No mention of contemporary traditional artists practicing in this tradition. Perhaps that is beyond the scope of this video.
It’s a 20 minute video... did you want the history of Tantra or the archeological nitty gritty? I think your last statement is correct- beyond the scope. Do some of your own research if interested.
I would prefer not to mix modern politics with subversive tradition of any religion {all religions have subversive methods cloaked from lay believers just as modern institutions use transparency & coercive power together} because modern ideology does not respect either conventional / traditional or it's subversive modes.
I kinda wanted a salty old North Londoner to give this lecture.
Nice ....Tantric practice is one way to reaching ultimate goal ...but kali is not the only Goddess but there are lot many...kali should only be invoked in rarity ..that is most household invoke durga n Laxfield Godess etc
Very nice tour indeed. I still have problems with any religious story where moral statements like "there is no difference between good and bad, between human and divine" are preached.
In essence, this is what is known as "non-duality". From a human perspective, we exist in what we perceive to be a dualistic "reality". Here's an interesting piece which explores this further: www.theconversation.org/archive/nonduality.html
@@gajones76 thanks for the link to that essay. I am afraid clarity on the distinction between good and bad is psychologically essential. However, I agree that whether a person is good or bad is quite another question. The desire for learning to become doers of good is there deep down in our conscious reality. Therefore, religions that discourage striving for moral goodness are really worrisome. Striving for power without striving for good is a shortcut to great psychological misery.
@@AndrasDNagy-bs5dc I’m not sure which religions you’re referring to, but in Buddhism for example, there are very long lists of precepts for anyone wishing to engage in spiritual practice. Not to mention the Bodhisattva vows that compel one to seek enlightenment for the sake of all beings, not for one’s own selfish purposes. This is because as mundane beings we need to be guided not to create more suffering for ourselves and for others through our actions, words and thoughts. So yes, you’re absolutely correct that for most of us this distinction is essential. However by gradually eradicating these hindrances and ignorance we can reveal the divine aspect which is spoken of as “one taste”, ie non-dualistic, unchanging. So in that ultimate divine sense there is no good or evil, male or female, life or death, etc. As you correctly point out, religious practices are certainly open to misinterpretation and manipulation, as has been proven countless times throughout history.
@@gajones76 do you mean that some gradual activity will get you to monism by some sort of cleansing and ultimately removing the chance of doing bad completely? I am afraid we always have the choice to do bad things if we want to decide to do so, therefore we just can not ever get from dualism to monism. Secondly, this kind of religiosity presented in the video is not really about any sorts of dualism leading a way to monism.
@@AndrasDNagy-bs5dc One central tenant of these religions is the working of cause an effect. Every action with mind, speech or body has an effect. So these practitioners were (and are) very careful to act with awareness, going from negative to positive to enlightenment. Also, in the trainings, they are steeped in meditations which arouse the altruistic mind and heart of compassion, love, generosity, etc. All of this is prerequisite to the "non dual" experience. And even when these yogis attained the ultimate, there is a saying "My view is as wide as the sky, but my actions are as fine as a grain of sand." Its actually much deeper and more effective than common morality, because they actually understand and have experienced the whole gamut of how things actually work (dharma). Its not just a moralistic over-lay or imposition from external forces, which, as we know, never really works completely.
I have tantrums all the time