The Kingkiller Chronicle | The Underthing - Lore and Theories
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- This video contains spoilers for The Name of the Wind, The Wise Man's Fear and The Slow Regard of Silent Things by Patrick Rothfuss.
One of the more unique places of Patrick Rothfuss’ Kingkiller world is the Underthing. A vast subterranean network of intersecting tunnels and spaces beneath the University. Let's explore the literature regarding this place together as I try to unravel its mysteries.
The wonderful thumbnail art is “The Underthing” by Adam J. Marin
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Name of the Wind by Marc Simonetti
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Auri by Phil McDarby
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The Slow Regard of Silent Things Official Cover Art by Nate Taylor
Kingkiller: Auri by Izzu-shi
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Auri by Lyraina
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Gathering Day by ShinySilver
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The Underthing by Marc Simonetti
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The Underthing by Adam J. Marin
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Taborlin the Great by Marc Simonetti
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'Kvothe - The Name of the Wind' by CainDream
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Kvothe and Auri in the Underthing by Dan Dos Santos
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Elodin by Belegilgalad
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'Kingkiller: The University' by Izzu-shi
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Auri at the Underthing by MichaelSwordblade
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Lanre's destruction WIP by emmgoyer7
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Skarpi by Vera Rehaag
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Kvothe - Tales of the Kingslayer' by Wakigawa
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Severen by Lunnarisaku
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The Wise Man's Fear by Marc Simonetti
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The University by Marc Simonetti
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Map of The Kingkiller Chronicle (Patrick Rothfuss)
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'At the Gates' by jameszapata
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Taborlin The Great by Kurogane-sensei
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Kvothe vs Ambrose by Marc Simonetti
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Auri official art in The Slow Regard of Silent Things by Nate Taylor
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Auri by Phil McDarby
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Before Exams by Corade
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Various Art from The Name of the Wind 10th Anniversary Edition by Dan Dos Santos
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Encanis by Dan Dos Santos
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Devi from The Name of the Wind by geying
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The Archives by Marc Simonetti
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Shadows and Silence by shoughad
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Beautiful and Broken by Julia Maddalina
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City of Dis by CaioESantos
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Auri doing Alchemy by Nate Taylor
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Lanre zoom by emmgoyer7
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The Slow Regard of Silent Things Official Cover Art by Nate Taylor
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I believe Auri is actually fully sane, She is just gifted with knowing the deep truth of everything around her. I think she is one of the original namers from the legends. So what seems kind of crazy to us, Is actually just the trie experience of someone who can read the names of everything around her...
You're probably right about her not being crazy. But she's definitely the missing princess Ariel.
I agree. This is something I want to explore in Auri's video.
@@strictlyfantasy Video about Auri? Great! I was just about to ask you!
I don't think fully sane is the right word. there is something beyond sanity and insanity in the story. remember that Lanrae according to Skarpis story was expressively grasped by something worse than madness (which is backed by the adem story which calls him sane) and we had that scene where Kvothe and Auri meet Elodin in the underthing and Kvothe described Elodin expressedly as sane no matter how many times before he described him as insane and remember how Kvothe after his first calling of the wind was in a delirium like mindspace. I think that naming does something to the mind, the more powerful a namer, the more powerful the effect. So Auri is neither sane nor insane it is just that jher "sleeping mind" is incredibly active due to her being a namer.
she could be lyra somehow
Don't forget about Jax, who chased the moon. One of his treasures was a "folded house" that he partially unfolded.
I believe the *_"folded house"_* is the *Faen Realm,* but that's just a theory.
@@riccardopizzolotto it is indeed the fae realm
I think it's all but confirmed.
I agree - the fae also fits the bill, but I find that both are described in a little bit a similar way, including the native guide to both places - Felurian and Auri
Also Jax is "safely shut beyond the doors of stone" *cough* *cough*
I constantly look at your channel just to be sure I didn't miss a video. That's how good these KKC videos are. Keep it up!
Thank you :)
Auri is light itself. She flows like a dandelion in the wind. And how she consoles Kvothe when he is in the "depths" of despair. A place she seems to know and understand so very well. She is an enigma. Fragile and ever so strong...
I think we hear about the Belenay Barren it was in a letter Kvothe wrote pretending to be a noble woman Ambrose got pregnant, he buys a hat to hide his hair and pretends to be a farmer and sells the letter. I think he sent it after coming back from Vintas, when he stops in Tarbean to give Trapis some money.
“The upcoming Doors of Stone novel”. Your optimism is so cute!
You’re like the VaatiVidya of the KKC universe. This is great!
Agree...so a dark souls player?
4:06 this fanart of Elodin looks exactly like how I picture him in my head and it creeps me out 😳
Imma soul fan of patrick books, its kinda dificult view your videos cause im brazilian but i got some parts and i think that auri can really be a princess at all, the way she acts and make poses when eating and standing or even walking... and that part of something taller than a man is a strong evidence that Encanis were trapped behind the plate doors.
Btw nice video
I love how so many fans have produced the artwork you use here. Talented people!
It's really interesting to me seeing the comment/like count on kingkiller related videos. We are but a select few... LONDON KINGKILLER CHRONICLE FANS HOLLA AT ME.
I must try and arrange a group thing one day when restrictions are no longer in place. Before this becomes huge (because obviously it will, it's bloody fantastic). If anyone likes the sound of this, let me know :D
Im a Brazilian fan and lover of The kingkiller and I know exactly what u mean!!! But, here (in Brazil) It is hard to find others who likes this masterpiece or create theoris...
A year late to the party but yes!
One of the drawbacks of an author waiting over 10 years to continue his story is that pretty much every possible stone has been turned over, all possible theories visited, so by the time he actually (if ever) publishes the 3rd book it'll very likely not catch anyone off guard.
No third book, never was never will be
I marvel at the richness of your imagination and putting insights together as if weaving a tapestry. It's absorbing. Makes one listen to how closely you seem to "gather," and speculate, while following closely the threads that currently lead us to...?
Excellent theories and linked material, now and future subscriber.
Ah, the home of my favorite character of the series. I didn't really think much of the place when I read the main books, but I took a keen interest in it when we got the Auri sentric short story, especially when a specific thing happened that made me sit on the edge of my chair. I will not spoil it here for anyone that have not read said book. And I knew it could not end that way because of certain things but still... I am fairly sure the Underthings will be back in the next book. And Auri with it.
A character I STILL feel like is more fleshed out and likeable that Kvothe's so called love interest what's-her-face. Even with Denna technically having more screen time... Alright, I am probably repeating myself, I have posted enough about her before. Suffice it to say I still can't get myself to really like her. Auri is a much better match for Kvothe than Denna. I fear for her fate though since the story is told to Cronicler, and while there appears to be a reference to Denna is mentioned in the now, Auri is never mentioned. I hold a silent hope that as I remmeber that person is not mentioned by name it might be Auri but I dunno... Bring her BACK dammit! :-)
I'd love a video all about Auri's gifts :)
Your videos are very insightful. I have read these books almost a dozen times and have been able to learn about very interesting correlations and theories that have never occured to me. Kudos, keep up the good work!
Elodin drew a deep breath. *_"Once upon a time, there was a University. It was built in the dead ruins of an older University._* It wasn't very big, perhaps fifty people in all. But it was the best University for miles and miles, so people came and learned and left. There was a small group of people who gathered there. People whose knowledge went beyond mathematics and grammar and rhetoric.
They started a smaller group inside the University. They called it the Arcanum and it was a very small, very secret thing. They had a ranking system among themselves, and your rise through those ranks was due to prowess and nothing else. One entered this group by proving they could see things for what they really were. They became E'lir, which means see-er. How do you think they became Re'lar?" He looked at me expectantly.
2:30 the music fits so well. Excellent ear
I agree the Underthing is the ruins of a great city. I think the Archives is actually a ancient tower and when the stone door is opened there will be a stairway that goes down into the Underthing. I wonder if the Lackless box holds one of the keys....
Great vid!
That art is amazing!
I really think that KKC being a trilogy is going to be a major problem for Ruthfuss... Book 3 has way too much stuff to cover; not only on worldbuilding, but also plot wise
Okay...I’ve seen all sorts of theories but I haven’t heard any theories on bast...why is he really there? Who’s really teaching who? Is vast trying to draw kvothe out? Please make a video on bassssttttt
Great video
and maybe the gear auri finds is a failed version of the wheel
This video puts together very compelling theories even I personally harbour. But only Pat can let us know what it is truly meant to be.... Thank you for the wonderful video!!
Also , the underthing is very impractical. Considering that university is filled with hundreds of curious people , how is it possible that there no one ever visits underthings . I think it was very poor decision on part of patrick rothfus.
Exactly what I was wondering whilst reading the books.
It seems that Patrick Rothfuss and George Martin have wonderful imaginations but they can’t solve their own mystery boxes.
‘Lost’ on tv was the same. I began losing interest way before the end of that too.
More questions than answers.
ever heard of the catacombs? If you don't know how to navigate then you will surely get lost and die.
I want to present the theory that perhaps no one can navigate the underthing due to a magical property. Maybe student do wander in, but never come out. I know we never hear of anything like that but maybe some of them are said to go to Haven by the professors? The reason Kvothe can go through is because he has Auri as a guide. Maybe there are guardians down there or something that wipe students minds. Maybe Auri is the guardian. I think the 3rd book will be integral in putting the pieces together on this particular question. Great thinking though!
@@9dnovix 3rd book 🤣🤣
The underthing could be a different realm.
Cool vid never heard of this before
Tying someone to a wheel sounds like sympathy to me
Oh wow. I'm sorry I dont want to be that guy. But Chasm is pronounced Kas-um.
Ordinarily I wouldnt say anything but it's one of my favourite words and hey you only really see it written down nowadays.
Love the videos bud.
I can't wait for the 3rd book!!
Unfortunately there isn’t one
@@briankregg6329 How come?
@@LoneWolf-ns8vm I have just come to realize that a third book was never intended. I know there is a title, the doors of stone, it has been 10 years and from everything I understand not a single word has been written, that is coming from the publisher, she has stated it. I think it is all part of the entire thing, reading the books I get a sense it’s all a rouse and wanting something that will never come or wanting something that will be kept from you seems to be the whole idea. The story is complete and finished, the rouse continues.
Elodins image looks like a cartoon version of the comedian Dylan Moran 😅
what if the underthing is a different realm, maybe even the fae realm? this might not be true because it’s pretty straightforward to get into the underthing, but it would add to auris mystery
If someone is causing the world to stagnate, I would guess that it is the Amyr. They have the power, and given they are fae in origin, probably the motivation as well.
I dont know about the underthing but I think I will cut my veins with a spoon if Doors of Stone doesnt come out soon, just saying tho
I prefer waiting ten years to read the perfect last book of a complete series, rather than some nonsense tomorrow. Perfection takes time.
@@riccardopizzolotto yeah, but building up hype at that level can be and will be perjuditial for the audience, searching perfection use to lead to failure. My comment was a joke btw, I will wait whatever it takes.
it has been 10 years my man. it better be perfect and it better come out soon
The wait will be different for different people. For me, its only been a little over 2 years since I first started reading these books, so I can be patient. But for people who have waited 10 or more years to see how Kvothe's story ends, I can understand how you'd feel. Ironically, Rothfuss sums it up best himself: "When you wait a few span or month to hear a finished song, the anticipation adds savor. But after a year, excitement begins to sour."
However, to his credit, I do think he's writing something where each word is meticulously chosen and that kind of quality takes time. As others have said, I'd rather wait and get a book with excellent prose then something that doesn't live up to standard. My opinion on this might change if the book is still not out after another 10 years though! XD
@@riccardopizzolotto if he can't do it in 9 years , then I am sure he just can not do it.
I think that to the untrained eye The Underthing is like Daedalus' Labarynth
I’m just here because of Tuomas Holopainan’s Auri and I must say I’m very confused
you should do a podcast, lol
REINHARDT
Mentioning Encanis's wheel reminded me of something you said at the beginning, something that ressembled the wheel more than the gears taller than a man: "something that ressembled a waterwheel, three stories tall"
I also believe it will be Kvothe that releases Encanis, or whatever is held behind the doors. Kvothe says "All of this is my fault. The scrael, the war. All my fault." (WMF)
Hello mortals.
Go back to telling how you ruin the world
\(^-^)/
@@Fabio-hc9bv if only my writer would do so
666 likes, 6 dislikes. this is very Rothfuss-esque.
I can confirm the information in this video is true.
ahahaaaa :P
I had the impression that the iron wheel he killed the Dracus with was the one in story? Hmm
No, that was a replica, as a religious symbol.
Chasm is pronounced kasm.
The more I listen to CZcams ‘theorists’ the more I believe that Patrick Ruthfoss and George Martin have been ‘check mated’.....
They’ve either opened far too many mystery boxes and clearly don’t have answers or the many theorists have figured them out they are now struggling to be original.
Both will die before concluding their story.
Calling it now.
Anyway, back to Tolkien for me.
Both of them are too smart to try to be original at the expense of their story. They know where they are going, and they won't let fan theories change their mind on that.
Devi ain’t doin shit
I have the feeling that book 3 will be a big dissapointment