The Only Guide you will need to Learn how to Mod weapons correctley in The First Descendant
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- This is a guide based on teaching the fundamentals of modding in the first descendant, this can be a very tricky part to understand and be able to maximize your damage.
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Can you take a look at my build
@mdk1777 are you in the discord? I'm not great at discord😂 but I didn't see the option to great you but I can definitely try to help you
Biggest mistake people do when moding weapons is thinking purple mods are better than blue. Always start with the blues, use purple as an extension to specifics attributes and finish it with a yellow that benefits its playstyle.
100%, people do the same thing in warframe, rarity of mods mean literally nothing other than drop chance to me😂
coming from destiny and division, that's how it worked, I did play warframe off and on, just not enough to deep stuff this stuff.
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Great video I have over 150 hours into the game and Im still a F ing noob. This will help me a lot with my fallen hope Im trying to improve for my Freyna.
I'm glad I came across your video. I kept using junk modules and wondered why my damage was not making much of an impact
glad it helped you out!
Hello, first of all, great video and the explanation of why you chose each mod is excellent. I have a small suggestion: when you're in the Laboratory, please use level 100 opponents. It took me an hour to understand why my Thundercage, with almost the same stats, was only doing a third of your damage until I realized that your opponent was set to level 1.
@flobzon8388 yea I'm gonna be doing that from now on, I noticed that's the way bigger creators did it so I just used levels 1s, but from now on it'll be against level 100s
Lol! it took less than 1 min to me. As soon i shoot and see no explosion i knew it. I almost max all does mods. in a level 100 crits not happens like in this video. Really piss me off.
Earned a sub for sure. Well spoken, straight forward, with more realistic takes than most other CZcamsrs. Great work and thank you!
It’s honest creators like this I like to subscribe to
this video is only 11 days old and he blew past his goal of 300 subs its above 1k now and imma add 1 to it
@@akafractalz3998 iknow it's crazy right!!
The Freyna comment killed me because i feel that. Freyna first Descendant I put an Activator into and I cant for the life figure out how you Freyna mains enjoy this game. Right now she just feels underpowered like severely.
Worst mistake I made, built her for crit, I have 6 catalysts on her and ive just decided no🤣 gonna grind me an ultimate lepic
To enjoy her u need a mod that drops from dead bride and the fallen hope, aside from buiding the well
it is a toxic explosions fiesta. i can imagine ur pain tho, made the same mistake and had to build her correctly.
@@jectemmoct6032 I have contagion and fallen hope and I still think she is weak. She's a mobbing character and light years worse than bunny I feel. Maybe she gets better
@@xbladrShe is the highest sutained DPS character in the game. Her bossing sustain build is the best in the game and its not contagion/fallen hope. Maybe learn a thing or two before being bad.
@@CurrehMoFo oh so a Freya main huh... Why do you need sustain when my lepic can blast through hard bosses insanely fast? Bunny is the best farmer mobber by far
Tamer is an Firearm ATK weapon.. you'll get more out of elemental damage then crits or weak point mods. Max it's ammo, rate of fire and add and element with the gunbarrel and tamer is a beast.
@@bigsarge1982 chill tamer is batshit lol. I love it!
Appreciate the way you laid it out for all of us! Looking forward to your future videos :)
I prefer Slow Art over Action and Reaction. Add Hawk Eye and it’ll make most guns laser accurate with less recoil. The DPS number means nothing if you’re missing half of your shots or firing in bursts.
This is exactly the kind of straight facts no frills video I've been looking for since I started this game. Thank you very much.
Weapon element doesn't help just with bossing because you get a 30% weapon firearm atk for free 100% of the time but in the form of an element , if the mobs are weak to that element your 30% could become 45% free firearm atk
Btw very good video, this Video is all you need to understand the "best" weapon mods 👍🏻
Well now i feel stupid for modding my thundercage for weak point thinking i was the main character. Thanks for the help!
Crit for mobbing, weapons works for bossing. I still prefer crit, but colossi have crit res
Well the games still new, there's allot to learn, I just treat it like its warframe
Beam weapons, do not look for:
Crit
Crit Dmg
Fire rate
Instead, look for:
Attrib. Trigger rate
Firearm Atk
Max Range
Movespeed while firing
Reasons:
Beam Rifles have the charge time mechanic separated from your fire rate. Having a high fire rate on a beam rifle expends all munitions leading to shorter charges.
Beam Rifles do damage over time instead of the usal "hit", meaning more that you keep the laser pointer onto a surface, the more sustained damage you deal.
Beam Rifles have a charge rate mod but do not assume it's for you to use as a burst before you run out of ammo. It's for you to be able to return back to sustained dps.
Beam Rifles have the shittiest movespeed while firing and possibly the heaviest weapons in the game which will lower your sprint speed. If you wanna combat this, mod the weapon with weapon change speed and have a general ammo handgun to switch to and back. Handguns have the highest sprint speed which is great for Bunny pulses on early to mid game.
Beam Rifles have a hard max range so depending on what you pick, if you opt for the close range one(5m) be ready to tank hits or be a dodge god in boss fights.
Beam Rifles fight on elemental rock-paper-scissors so they have high attribute trigger rates. They're pretty good on early game especially on missions wherein a mission monster appears. Chill will give them frostbite and the more chill elem. mods you have, the higher the odds of it happening.
One thing i noticed, the beam rifle does not do any physical damage.
You can set in the options to see the damage seperated and i've noticed, the main damage of my beams were elemental damage instead of the other way round with normal ammo weapons.
Great job breaking it all down and explaining this with something that everyone has. You did a better job than a lot of these other videos! Thank you! Earned yourself a sub with this video.
@@thehawaiiank I'm glad to hear it helped you out!
your build is good. the element at the end is chef's kiss. i just wish the element in this game has more purpose .
This type of breakdown video is going to carry your yt far man. This vid is a great help, thanks
Lets hope so, bt even if it doesnt, it was fun lol
greetings from germany,
all you talking about is literally what i was seeing in this game^^ thanks for the video
I like how you broke everything down and showcased…. SUB
Appreciate it man!!
Why not just craft them👌🏻 Thanks for Info.👊🏻
Thanks you for showcasing your module combo for the Thunder cage. Please consider showcasing the others too! I'd use your vids as a frame of reference to mod all mine! Way better than the suggestion button they provided ingame!
You can press W or "Go to info" bottom of the screen for more detail on your descendant stats, gun stats after mod applied
Great video, thanks! 🤟🏼
Thank youu!
Edging shot is a bad crit mod. Use another purple crit mod Insight focus i believe The crit rate difference is no more than 10%(so about 2% actual) and you get more crit damage, and you don't lose firearm atk.
513! Had to sub. No fluff just the good stuff. Thank you, sir.
Well explained no BS just facts! Earned a sub keep up the good work my man 💪
Makes my day to hear this😊
7:51 the Tamer isn't a crit NOR a weak point weapon, but you should choose one path to go down regardless. Given that it has some bloom that will make weak points inconsistent, crit is marginally better.
Also for the Thunder Cage, Reload Insight is a good pairing with Concentration Priority. Building into weak point isn't the best idea because not only is it better as a mobbing weapon where you don't always focus weak points, but the weak point multiplier is quite poor too. For the DPS number, weak point doesn't count, so you only saw the DPS increase from the crit portion of the module.
Firing Fiesta is okay for the Thunder Cage, but Lethal Finish and Sweeping Squad are better in any mobbing situation
can you build Thunder Cage for Bossing? I dont want to invest into multiple guns >.>
@@Antonin1738 you can, but it's hard to optimize it for both mobbing and bossing with the same sockets. I'd recommend getting something like a Python or Enduring Legacy for bossing instead
The reason you want to go into weakpoint damage with the thunder cage is so that you can mob better, weakpoint + crit = 4 million damage on explosions, I play on console so I find It pretty easy to go for weakpoints....however on oc o can't hit a weakpoint to save my life😂.
I'll jump on today to try and grind some new mods and test something new for it tho.
@@Harmonic14 thats the goal, but rn I have literally not got a single energy activator so I can't really fully build other weapons
Just subscribed to you! I love how you just get to the point. @Nariff Please could you do a build for the Enduring Legacy? I would love you forever 😂
I will certainly try my best, its tough for me to build alot of guns, I'm f2p apart from battle pass and never had a energy activator drop, but I will grind all of today to get at least one I hope
@@nariff- for some reason I get energy activator blue prints all drops all the time, I have three already crafted and 5 blue prints waiting to be crafted, what the game refused to drop for me is Crystalisation Catalysts. Can’t wait for you to do a build on the Enduring Legacy! That would be mint. It’s got high crit (20%) like the thunder cage so I’m guessing the build will pretty much be the way you have built the thunder cage right?
@@nicholaskabwekapapa5500I have 15 crystallisation catalysts🤣 ill trade ya some 🤣
@@nariff- bro if they ever bring trading into this game I kid you not I will trade you some no problem
@nicholaskabwekapapa5500 I have q feeling that when they bring in trading its gonna be terrible in comparison to warframe, if we can trade caliber then I'll be a little disappointed
Liked the video when you said multiplicativley
How are you getting the electric to proc every hit? Mine never procs. Great vid btw, very well laid out and much appreciated
Lvl 4 thunder cage unique ability I'm guessing
@@1Fallen4 yep, lvl 4 thubdercage ult ability
Thank you, I just figured it out; I thought it was the lvl 4 effect but his was every shot, whereas it is supposed to proc on kill. Then I tried an invincible lvl 1 vulgus Iny the lab and there it was- proc every hit. Ty for the help all, I appreciate it
5:30 you really don't want to use any crit mods with the python
Fire rate up > bullet rain or any other fire rate mod
Imo elemental mods are required. It's a significant amount of damage increase
@redcobra1246 I don't have it yet but that sounds like a fun build to make
I never thought i was bad at games like this. But i hit Hard mode and this game is kicking my ass. I cant kill Executioner on hard. People's weapons are vastly more powerful than mine. Their base weapons are even more powerful than mine fully modded. Yes i haven't leveled 7 times yet. But i have leveled 4 times. The most damage ive done on Executioner before he times out is around 13 mill
Def subbed after this. Thanks for the info!
Awesome, thank you!
This man is a genius.
Ty bro❤
Warframe spoiled me too much, critical chance in this game feels so low, takes a bit to get used to
If your comparing the base crit, then it's pretty much the same, but I do think the reason the crit feels super low is because there's no rivens
The same?, it feels like every weapon is the nukor, and the critical hit rate mods barely give anything
Not the real choice leveling up. In warframe it easy to say let me pop a from on. In this game I be debating
@zzzzzzzzzPP I only mean the same in the way they have a base crit of 20% for example, that's a good base crit in warframe to
@Kidice00 yea leveling up an item in warframe takes illiteracy 2 and a half mins and a frame takes like 10 mins to max
Nice, I'm running the 4 piece Veteran external component set with a build almost identical to yours.
The Veteran has
5.1% weapon crit rate
Firearm ATK 6.6%
5.8% weak-point damage
That firearm ATK offsets that negative 15% on the high crit card a little.
I'm experimenting with the acrobat 4 piece now.
2 Set Effects:
・Skill Power+ 1.7%
Firearm ATK+2.8%
4 Set Effects:
・Firearm Critical Hit Rate +5.9%
・Skill Critical Hit Rate +21%
Terrible builds. Get a hobby
@@TheAgentAssassin I'm currently trying to collect all the ultimates and descendants before I try grinding out some perfect sets, but I appreciate those set suggestions they sound like they will make a nice addition to the build and I'd love to try them out
Small tip because I want to see you do well. Ask for the like and sub after providing the value instead of before. You'll get better results.
Keep up the great work 👍
Great vid bro, keep up the good work.
After damage testing, running the blue firing speed has done better than bullet rain at least for me. That 5% is significant. If you’re not going for crit, that is.
I switched these the other day on my Thundercage and it really is noticeable. Couldn't believe how different it sounded, even.
It almost feels like RPM isn't on a gradual slope, moreso a step system. That's how different it feels.
Was going to comment this. Fire rate up is a required mod just like rifling reinforcement and action and reaction
Thank you for letting me know, I shall test that today, It does sound like it might be better, gotta test my explosions tho.
Really detailed video thank you 😊
Happy to hear it!
"Don't do what I did. Don't use it on Freyna" 😂
Brilliant vid mate thank you!
@@jokmapola5255 glad you liked it!!
When farming something just dont put it in the air, rngesus will hear you
energy activator 101
aim for 10% drop -> it will drop to make you felt bad...
I know recoil doesnt mean much especially on thunder cage, but I see so many using action reaction which does make recoil slightly worse. You can get the same firearm atk boost with anti matter rounds, and it raises crit dmg 6.5%
What percentage of firearm atk boost do you get from maxed antimatter round?
I looked it up. At max level antimatter round only give +26% firearm atk. Whereas the action reaction module give +61% firearm atk. Big difference.
Action and reaction is a huge dps buff in comparison to that mod
I bet that extra recoil kinda hurts on a controller.
@togashi3892 I actually much prefer console right now, but I havnt played much pc anything recently so my aim just suckss
Helpful tip, energy activators don't drop, you have to farm the materials and craft them, being that you've progressed so far into the game you should know that already, thank you for explaining modding the weapon though, this will definitely be helpful, been seeing others in game just wrecking with the Thundercage while mine is struggling where I'm at in the game, knowing what to focus on is gonna help, thank you
To build an energy activator, you need an energy activator blueprint to drop at 3-6% chance.
@@nariff- as well as other material, need more than just that one piece
@@ogreofthefrost everything else is easy to get only the bp I can't get
You crit significantly higher on the enemies he's using to showcase the damage numbers. I get 330K crits on the same enemies, but only 110k on the other 2 types. Which I find interesting as they do not seem to have exposed weak points due to armor. However, this build does crit about 5% more often than the build I was using which is quite significant in total damage output per mag.
congrats on 581 bro, couple more weeks you might get 5k
Finally a decent and helpful video lol
Thx for this Video ❤
How do you get that effect where an electric explosion happens with each shot?
My thunder cage is maxed and it only does that when the enemy dies.
@vaxzar the enimie was immortal, technically he died with every shot
almost same build but imo +magazine and sweeping modules are much better for dps actually (boss)
weakpoint purple mod for bosses, sweeping for mobs
Hi great video, just wanted to ask you about the mod "sharp precision shot" it seemed to me that its quite op but you haven't mentioned it at all, is it bad perhaps?
@Kizoku_RK I would only put that mod on high ammo capacity weapons and even then I use mental focus, they are both special mods so only 1 can be used at a time
wish there was an inverse mod for edging shot, for people that want to have anything to do with crit chance.
@jeffrey778 thats actually a really good idea, but if they wanted to this I think the should copy the crit system in warframe, (orange crits and red crits) I think that's the only way it could be justified to get upto or over 100% crit
damn bro have you farmed alot of rocks like using sharen and doing outpost i have over 50 rocks atm and used over 100 ive gotten so many energy activators while farming for other things like descendants, weapons like afterglow x5 and farming veteran set pieces at a outpost getting rocks loot and exp. i feel ppl who have not got eneergy act having been farming effectively lol i got like 6 and usied 4 adn i dont want them anymore !!
You can get 350k+ on the thundercage. "Slow art" is the key. Atk+ and -FR just use the FR mod to nullify the "-" part. My Thunder cage is almost at 400k and I still have some room for improvement. I do believe there is another mod that is critical to the build I have. Crit dmg+ and -reload. The mods with negative are much stronger, but you lose something in return and have to nullify it.
Please do Enduring Legacy next
Great vid bro
I really wish I could watch this video.
I need energy activators to up my capacity to get stronger but i can't get the parts for those into i beat the game and go to hard but i cant do that by myself because I'm so weak.
spend 20 dollars and a new world will open up. subed
Uhhh “multiplicivitely” at 9:36 time stamp. Wtf, bro?? I can’t say that shit in slow let alone how fast YOU did! 😄🤘🏻
got it on the first try to😂
I see this in almost all youtube videos, why are you doing testing with lvl 1 mobs, and not with lvl 100 mobs? they will give you different numbers, more like what you will see when you actually go out and farm any endgame stuff, since you'll be dealing with lvl100 enemies there.
for demonstration purposes, I get it, the proportional increases will probably be the same, with lvl 1 mobs there's bigger numbers, etc. it just will feel strange that when you go out to use your maxed out gun you won't actually see these dmg numbers as they will be lower due to higher enemy defence.
This game is Bork I have all the stuff for a ultimate and it says I don't same with ultimate Gunn I grid so hard and can't get my stuff it s uck it happen before so I rest game nor doing it again
Mine is 588k need to get more mastery ranks sad face crits for 451 pretty decent i think
Try throwing on real life fighter or sweeping squad
Shhhhh let them suffer
what are some great mods for piercing light and wave of light
Correctley
How’d ya get that backpack in the beginning
I'm trying to learn so please don't take this as negative but could you explain why you think that focusing on the Tammers weak point than the critical hit?, I'm only asking as I'm a little confused as my Tammer even know the Crit Hit is around 10× but the weak point damage is only like 1.0 something with a 5x buff I'd have thought focusing on the critical hit side of things having the higher buffs would be better to work into?, is it because the BGS works differently to how it tries to perceive?, got into the hard mode now and noticed that things aren't as OP as they used to be and wanted to change things up.
@simonriley6198 the tamer just has low base crit stats, I crewmember exactly right now but I think it's something like 10% crit rate 1.6x crit damage, that's just not high enough to be a crit weapon, for a good crit weapon you want above 20% crit rate and 2x crit damage
@nariff- yeah I get the crit part as I did what you said with the Thundercage and it's a lot better, sorry to be a pain but what should I be putting in as regards as modules for the Tamer?, I thought you said weak point damage ?, does that scale differently to crit hit then I'm only asking as my weak point is really low on my tamer too, should I maybe try to find a tamer with a bit more better stats to upgrade and replace my old one with?, thanks
@nariff- also I'm confused a little as I hear people say you can use a weapon to help Kyle build up MP quicker and that sounds like something I'd like to get my hands on 😅 I think it was a LMG also so I could just replace the Tamer with it in some situations I guess
@simonriley6198 there is a base 1.5x damage for any weakpoint attack, then your tamer also has more weakpoint damage that stacks onto that I belive, so you have something like 1.5 x1.5(you can put weakpoint mods on to make it higher) asking it so your weakpoints do big damage, you should also put an element on the weapon, it adds a good bit of dmg as just straight up extra
@@simonriley6198 I've never really been into Kyle myself so I honestly don't even know what he does🤣
Do u help make builds I’m stuck on my idk wat I’m doin bro helpppp
I have a discord server set up, it's in the description of the video, no body has joined it yet but I'm always willing to help
Thank u my code is KINGNORFOLKDD#6352
are there any updates to these buils or they still rocking?
Energy activator on freyna 😂
Its like a temu warframe unfortunately. Sucks the grind is REAL
@@stevie9361 The grind is why we play these games🤣
I have all the same mods and I'm only hitting around 150k headshot crit. Idk what's going on
Try build Max out Enduring Legacy with 250 AMMO.. Tamer < Thunder Cage < Enduring Legacy
Honestly the crit rate mods are pretty useless as you're going to hit a crit pretty often @ 20%.. Just mod for extra crit damage & forget chance.. Dps won't tell the full story w weakpoint damage..
20%, isn't enough and the crit rate mods are extremely useful, if you don't use them that's fine but for everyone else...this is objectively wrong, for example, base crit is 20% my crit is 40%....that's literally 2x as many crits witch means allot more dps
Did I miss it or how would you build a non crit weapon, I get you can't max out your tamer but did he explain it?
build for one of the other stats, eg weakpoint or element trigger rate
@@nariff- thanks, that was my guess
i got a thing to reset? my weapon level and make it stronger? but i have no idea what terminal does it. our robot friend gave me the stuff but not too detailed instructions.
@@KalindiPrana you do it in the weapon modding menu, there's buttons on the right side of the screen
You only showed how to build a crit weapon. What about weapons that have low crit.
I only showed crit but I mentioned that if your weapon isnt crit, then build it into its highest base stat eg. weak point damage or element trigger rate, every weapon will have sight differences but you should start every build by looking at those 3 stats.
@@nariff- make a video explaining it. Get some more views. Lol
@GoPlayNTraffic as soon as I get my hands on some energy activators I will be trying to make as many good builds as I can, can't wait for trading
Inztructions uncleared, gotta mod 1% critical chance beam rifle into cc, cd and weak point monsters, brb(just joking), ps got myself 6 energy activators so far, but that 10% viultimate viessa part?? N.O.P.E.
What’s better thunder cage vs python ?
@@eliasmunoz229 thundercage for mobbing and python for bossing imo
How do u get free activators?
You get 2 free activators for completing certain quests while progressing through the game, I can't remember the quests exactly but you'll see it in the reward, I think one is from the bunny questline
How is it procing the boom without killing ??
Lab settings
If weapon has less than 15% Crit RATE and less than 2.0x Crit DMG = Do NOT build Crit on it, is that correct? If so, what to build then?
No, you should do the math and figure out what does the highest DPS for the gun you're building
Outside of fire attk & fire rate, weak point damage, rounds per mag &/or overall rounds.
Wrong.
There are sources of flat crit %; 10% crit can build crit(for example, tamer) and still get decent benefit - it just makes crit less of a priority (over weakspot...etc.) if you're not using those sources of flat crit %.
Just finished the story last night so that's all my drops now dropping at level 100. Time to start building my characters and guns. Will be looking at this for some guidance later. Nice one
Yea if its lower than those I suggest don't build into crit, you should focus on the base mods like firearm atk. Fire rate etc. But the effct trigger rate on a weapon is how often an element effect is triggered, so that's always worth a look into, also weakpoint damage...if none of the stats are appealing, don't be afraid to just use a different weapon.
try have aiming trust me
Drops is a joke
i don't understand how you get those numbers without mods. have almost the same TC god rolls and not even close DMG to this shown in video.
If you join my discord in the description I can try to help you out and see what's wrong
@@nariff- reason i was getting lower numbers is because i used 100lvl valgus in lab, and you probably used lvl 1
@jazzjunkie1986 ahhh yes, that would be it, on lvl 100 enimies I hit over 200k instead of over 300k, when I play on hard I change the element for the enimies I'm fighting not just for bossing
Yellow/Ultimate mods are the biggest way to do weapon dps/boss melts. Without them, you're build is not even close to complete, and firing fiesta isnt even the best one.
Bro.. did this leprechaun just say he would.. love me long time?! Im out. But a pretty alright video
😂 this leprechaun did say that indeed
lol how much did you spend on this game ? i doubt you will be honest
@leemattox7665 I've spent enough to get the battle pass thing, no more than that. I've only ever had 1 energy activator other than the the 2 free ones and it was used on the only ultimate I have(lepic)
So in the end how would you build enduring legacy for exemple ?
I see so much différence.. like with crit dmg, with atak colossus, with fire..
With fire module, with superheated gunbarell etc
Im completely lost xD
Enduring legacy, I don't have one but I will suggest something for a build.
20% Cc, this is a good crit chance.
1.7x Cd, this is a good crit damage modifier for an lmg as they do allot more base dmg than smgs.(comparing to thundercage)
So building this into crit is smart.
It has a 1X weak point.....which means you literally get no bonus for hitting a weakpoint....do not build weak point.
4.76% trigger rate....not great for elemental damage either but I would still have an element on the gun as it does still help for bossing.
It has a 2.7 second reload time modifier,(because I don't have this I don't know when your able to reload cancel)but 2.7 seconds shouldn't really need a reload modifier, I assume you can reload cancel at maybe 40-50%
I'm trying to get all of the weapons now so I can make a build for all of them.
Quick summary, build for firearm atk, crit rate, crit damage, fire rate and get the fireing fiesta mod instead of reload speed.
Let me know if this helps at all.
Just so u know weakpoint is always 50% extra damage by default. Always. @nariff-
@@riothegod5750 how ?
@@nariff-do NOT run Firing Fiesta on the Enduring Legacy... If you're not running Mental Focus, you're doing it wrong.
@@nariff- fire fiesta on an lmg ? Isnt mental focus, sharp precise shot or real life way better ?
Firing fiesta would be better on an smg
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Great vid just one thing...how do you not know you can just build energy activators? Or are you saying you cant get the parts to drop? Bc ive gotten the bp to drop not even trying when farming other stuff.
@@violentmeditation7456 I've never got a blueprint to drop
I got 625k dps on my cage