Myth of the Thylcaine - Cannot Be Found
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- čas přidán 13. 10. 2023
- Searching for the Tasmanian Tiger we visit the ruins of the Beaumaris Zoo in Hobart, Tasmania. Is there truth to the myth of thylacine? Can it ever be found again?
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Do you think the thylacine still exists?
Yes
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@@lanceduke3522 my friend saw one in 2019 near Queenstown.
Probably not, but I hope that they do.
every part of me wants to say yes, but i know im wrong.
Your are a true poet and storyteller.
I love everyone of your videos
Thanks for tuning in homes
A very moving video. I'm sad I never had the opportunity to see one, yet always hopeful there is a tiger colony out there somewhere on our island. These tigers have fascinated me since I was young and I used to go to the museum here in Launceston and look at the displays in the little dioramas they had set up in the darkened hall of what is now the art gallery. I remember seeing the little tiger preserved in the glass jar. I show my granddaughter the tigers now at the new museum at Inveresk and she too gets sad and she is only 3. What a loss for us all.
They were a particularly appealing animal.
That was such a sad video mate. Thanks for making it though.
Thank you, Trevor.
The Tasmanian emu would be a good subject for you too.
Sad story, must also be noted that the TM lost the remains for many years (80?) were found in a draw!
My Grandmother told me of when her parents would take her and her brothers and sisters to the Zoo & they'd see the Thylacine in Tassie!!
All the people who witnessed the animal alive might be about gone by now.
My dad saw the last thylacine at the domain zoo
So so sad. We often say we hope some are hiding out in the deep south far from prying eyes. And if they are, I hope they're never found. Great story again Angus. Thank you!
Thanks, Corinne.
The loss of the Thylacine Tiger was unfortunate and unforgivable. Thank you for a great vlog
I don’t think they exist anymore but it’s difficult to prove 100%.
I wish people back then had thought more about the longer term consequences of what they were doing to our native species. It’s very sad.
Thank you once again Angus for your thought provoking video.
no, no it's not sad, it's sad that people believe such trap
Yes I too wish they'd been more aware and concerned for the environment and it's animals...but they also pretty much killed all the Aboriginals too... Such destructive ignorance isn't bliss at all..😢😢
These are great videos. I really appreciate the topics you cover, and your gentle style. Love the little dog too.
Thanks, mate.
I’m a big fan of these type of videos. You do them so well. A good dose of education and pathos.
Thanks for being a long time viewer, Danny
Just love your video's Angus. My little dog Jimmy jumps up at the screen, wagging his tail at your little dog ❤
Thanks, Lisa.
very nice production Angus ! thank you !!!
Thanks, mate
The new Tassie Footy team should be called the Thylacines…
Just another reason our parents knew too little, too late.
Another great video as well. Thanks heaps.
Cheers, David
In a very real sense we're far far worse than they ever were. Unfortunately we kid ourselves we're far far better. This is part of the problem. Earlier generations had limited idea of what they were doing, we know but keep doing it anyhow instead relying on scientific panaceas to save us from ourselves while maintaining lifestyle. It is unsustainable, science is not going to fix the problems, we're mostly doomed. Thylacines were just another of the thousands of species we've ended. Sorry to get all eschatological but what else can I say except, Bye?
I swear there was black and white footage of that last Thylacine pacing in it's cage with scratchy, 1930s audio, put to air on local tv, but i can only find it with out of place music over it on YT. Unless the TV broadcast fabricated the sound, that's a bit of a mystery.
One of your best videos to date, Angus. Thanks very much.
Cheers, Luke
(1) @4.50 I hadn't realised how strongly the Thylacine face had marsupial features. It has a broad kangaroo nose and possum eyes, yet also has similarities to a dingo face when view in other images.
(2) There is a certain Fermi Paradox about not being able to find a live Thylacine in the extraordinarily vast expanse of densely vegetated west coast country that never sees any human intrusion.
(3) I have heard that there is an accepted agreement among biological scientists that if a thylacine was sighted, its location would not be disclosed for fear of a stampede to see it.
Thanks again for a great story and some deep philosophy too.
They looked and moved a lot like kangaroos.
Hahahaha, first time seeing this legend, what a treat.
Ha
I saw an exhibition at TMAG years ago, I vaguely remember an audio recording of a Tasmanian Tiger being part of it. I don't think they still exist and I don't think we should be trying to clone/bring them back. We are seemingly unable to keep the species that are still here alive.
Thanks for the post and all the efforts ❤
This was sobering and necessary, especially when you consider how so many people seem to be 100% sure that it's out there. Easy to get your hopes up. Preserve what you have still.
Thanks, mate. Yeah. It’s a grim meathook reality of history.
That was the last one in Captivity, they were still hunted after for several more years.
It's more important that ppl accept the lesson that once you destroy something unique it can never be brought back than it be cloned back into existence through science.
Love ya videos mate
Keep ‘em up
Cheers, mate
Wonderful thank you Angus. A weekend full of thoughts of sins of the past.
Cheers, Andrew. Hope you had a good wknd
It is sad. Hopefully we can learn from it in some way.
Thanks for your videos I enjoy them 😊
Will we? Australia has more threatened species than almost anywhere?
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It wasn't a question, just a hope 😀
Thanks Angus - very touching
As all good history should be.
Glad you enjoyed it, Tom
Profound. Painful. Sobering. A deeply philosophical piece Andrew. Well done.
My only complaint is that the video ended too soon! The Photoshop skills that went into the thumbnail are truly next-level haha #perfection. What I find intriguing is the lack of markers at this site to indicate its historical significance. It is sad to think that this location is near one of our busiest roads, standing silently, largely unnoticed by commuters engrossed in their daily routines. Your video is a reminder that profound stories and lessons lie quietly beside us, we only need to pause and take notice. More please!
Cheers, mate. If you want more there's lots of older videos to watch.
@@angusthornett Yes mate I know :). I believe, on FB, you once asked about the old children's show Hunter. If you ever want to interview the main actor, let me know as he is my father.
Thanks Angus - keep up the great work!
Cheers, Tom
When Lieutenant Cook "discovered" what is now called Australia, what is now called Vanuatu was then Terra Australis as the Great Southern Land
This was really good. Thank you for making this. I haven't been able to get good imaging of the site of Beaurmaris zoo in the modern day and I want to head out there one day.
Thanks, Oswald.
If you gonip the road towards the Botannical Gardens, it is on the left
Another really well put together and educational video! Always look forward to your uploads.
One question though. Did you need special permission to go in and look around the old zoo site? Always have wanted to go have a wander. But obviously no one wants the area to be inundated with people as it should really be a historical landmark and maintained as such
It is opened somewhat regularly for visits.
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It really is sad...Iam certain they are gone.I have been fascinated by the Thylacine since 1979.If it can not be cloned 100 percent.Then I think it should not be done.I have seen both mounted specimens at American Museum of Natural History many times.Here in NYC.I always feel a bit sad afterwards.Along with their mounted specimen of the Great Auk and specimens of Passenger Pigeons.
The people who know will never tell you where to find them
Mmm if there's 1.75mil involved it'll leak won't it? All tied to the publicity ironically, when by all accounts the Thylacine was notoriously shy.
You'll have to get out of those jeans city boy and come to the deep dark bush to find out lol 😂😂😂😂😂
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I’m an urban animal.
@@angusthornett haha I'll have to show you the bush sometime ya hermit crab lol 😂🤣
@@jesusislukeskywalker4294 thanks mate hope you enjoy my content....
In the late 1960s, I became aware of sightings by naive observers who made drawings of the animals they saw in the higher country West of Armidale NSW. These drawings were closer to contemporary illustrations of Thylacines than anything else.
I really hate Zoos like this one, just to small enclosures for large animals its very sad how we have to keep exotic animals for our own pleasure.
Looking forward to this one!
Hope you enjoyed it.
A powerful episode and very sad. I hope in 87 years from now Angus Jr Jr & Dog Jr Jr Jr Jr Jr aren't filming the reboot of this story with the Swift and orange bellied parrots as protagonist. When the final chapter of the Myth of the Thylacine is written, maybe that's as close as we'll come to a happy ending.
How did you manage to get in there? I've always wanted to take a wander around that site!
It's opened somewhat regularly.
I’ve seen one myself back in 2012 in Victoria. They are still around however the 1080 baits I think may make them extinct.
They are 100% not extinct yet.
Had to bail out.. to upset,
If cloning ever becomes a reality, we owe to this creature to do it don't we?
Nope.
@@AndrewGriffiths-enipad9miss its the internet. You're talking to everyone.
Definitely not
@@jansilk83 why not.?… actually, if it’s a religious thing I don’t want to know.
@AndrewGriffiths-enipad9miss ethics and why would you when it can only be restricted to an enclosure for people to gawk at. To release it would cause havoc to our wildlife.
Maybe. They have rediscovered extinct creatures repeatedly . No road kill. 😮😮
You will never find me alive said he.
This was a sad one, my uncle had a farm in the northwest and swore he seen one but wouldn't tell anyone the location, so maybe they are still around. Have you got any plans to make your videos longer, it seems like I just start getting into it and it's ended, sorry don't mean to sound ungrateful but I really enjoy your content.
He may have. Videos have a natural time span.
They definitely are still around. Lots of sightings within the last 2 years in SA and VIC.
I always get Tasmanian Tigers and Tasmanian Devils mixed up - because you would think that the "Devil" would be mythical / extinct - not the "Tiger"
Both pretty gnarly names
Newly subscribed - great video .
Thanks, dude.
Great video!
Cheers, mate.
Hi Angus , just curious ? Is that jacket your wearing the latest fashion ? I had one just like that 40 years ago in the 80's . Funny how fashion trends do the full circle. I just shared this video with friends because you mentioned polar bears , who knew ! Talk about opposite ends of the 🌎 . Great channel. 👍
I don’t follow fashion trends.
These arefarfrom the only Austraian we have driven to extinction.
So true... Literacy is dying off very quickly too...😂
Great vid Angus, is it possible to walk around the zoo grounds?
Yes, if the gate has been opened.
Another good video Angus! The Loch Ness Monster lives on like our Tiger. The next creature to become almost extinct is Mankind. Some of us may survive a Nuclear War but we may envy the dead. The big boys will use their toys like in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Going hard in the paint, Daryl.
Keep up the good work Angus. You have talent which does not yell and scream. Like your Dog, you quietly move along integrating the past with the Present. . @@angusthornett
Sad they're extinct. Unfortunately we've learned nothing and the critically endangered swift parrot will be next because their breeding grounds are being destroyed by logging. Humans are truly the worst creatures on the planet.
Yeah very poignant video this one. I feel so saddened by the actions of those who've gone before. And resonated with that mourning of what is lost and can't be made right. I remember standing at the gates a year or so ago reading the story of the zoo. I felt sad for the all the animals that had been there. I'm thankful we think about and manage zoos very differently now - well mostly.
Zoo are generally mean places. For the most part it's hard to justify their existence.
Agree re the poignancy @denisesavage2382 . For me it was there generally too, but none more so than when Angus filmed contrasting shots, switching from a last sad, forlorn view of a Thylacine above the gates, to his well-fed co-commentator sitting contentedly on the lush grass. Further cause for reflection... 🤔😪
@@timlyall2061 indeed.
Cheers.
That over the past 80 years no thylacine has been found dead on the side of a Tassie road says they are all long extinct.
Logical conclusion.
Incorrect.
Several have been found and have not been handed back to the person who handed them in. Why?
You'll be surprised when you turn off the computer and get out there you'll have more information than this guy has.
He's just asked the wrong people, just like our scientists today who have proven several times their failures and that they have tripped over their own feet.
Extinction doesn't work like the book says but we are taught that because the people who learned that teach it to students.
It's an evil cycle
Such a sad result of ignorance.
Can you do a video on the Shot Tower at Tarona
It may turn up at some point
Extremely sad but I don’t think we can hold our forebears to account. They did what they thought was ok at the time. We can only learn from past mistakes. God knows what ones we are making now that the future will hold us to account. Thanks again Angus for another informative and interesting video. Can’t wait for the next.
It is very easy to morally judge historical events. Either way, the animals need not be extinct.
Your video is beautifully presented and informative.
I'd like to see your video on panthers in Victoria .
I'm sure your conclusions will be there is no photos no bodies no proof of panthers in Victoria even though hundreds have seen them.
Most like my self keeping quiet because they don't want to draw the ridicule when sharing your experience.
Well 40 years ago I had a really really good look at a panther in the Victorian high country at a place that until recently had been a pine plantation and while hunting rabbits rifle in hand with my dog l came across the panther crossing the dirt road with it's home destroyed by logging.
0 and yes I have no doubt that the Tasmanian tiger sightings is Gippsland Lakes area are real
Thankyou Angus-great feature -but its extinction not ''extinguishment''-no such word ! I also I feel in all that unexplored inaccesible wilderness there is a chance I -sure hope so !?
extinguishment is a word
Don't forget that English doesn't have an authority that defines what is a word (unlike French, German, Italian, etc). We have dictionaries that _describe_ what people are saying. Imagine trying to dictate "correct" English; either the United States or the United Kingdom would have an awful lot of problems. Here in Australia, we'd mostly be with the UK, sometimes with the US, and sometimes "double-wrong".
So, if you can understand what is meant, it's a word. I can cope with "extinguishment".
1.75mil makes me want to go catch one
Lol- same!! 😂😂
No I believe..
It’s a bit strange the Tasmania still puts the Thylacine image on its number plates
United Kingdom has a lion and a unicorn.
That jacket of yours would scare them all away.
😂😂😂😂
Bond Bay west coast of Tasmania has had sightings this year.
Photos or it didn’t happen
@@angusthornett Ill see what i can find
🔭🦘🐨🐥🤠 awesome
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Ask some west coaster's and they will tell you.
Aboriginals are not one race, nor one language. The tern refers to of the originals, and in context if those that claimed land. The tribal people that resided in small parts of the Australia land mass, were over more than 5 core races, and 250+ language groups. Settlers are also Aboriginal, since they claimed land too.
Glad that zoo closed down it must have horrible for the animals to be locked up there. Killing the Tasmanian tiger is another black mark on our history.
Zoos aren't great.
Zoos are great. People like you don’t do any good, you just cry about it. Zoos, on the other hand, are actually involved in essential research and preservation of vulnerable species.
You’re welcome to critique treatment of animals and demand higher standards, especially in developing nations, but saying zoos are horrible is ignorant.
im sure there might be one in the middle of nowhere..
Or perhaps a stripeyhorse.
😂@@angusthornett
That's not true! They've been seen by lots of people half an hour from me in a few different directions. The scrub in rural SA is the perfect hideaway for them and one was seen only a few months ago at Ponde, SA. They've been seen just out of Mt Barker, Murray Bridge and other places. They move very fast and unless you have camera in hand and happen to see/record one, most are not pictured. Lots of sightings in Victoria too!
Photos or it didn’t happen.
@@angusthornett Okay, so you have your phone filming when you go to a bush to do a piss? That's the *ONLY way a photo could have been taken* and let's assume you were so fast at getting an accurate picture that the *3 seconds* you saw it, you managed to get a photo... Get real mate!!
I've seen those pictures and vids of alledged TT sightings .. not one of them is at all convincing .. 🤷
Hey Angus are you a drama teacher or someone who does drama stage shows?
Haven't you seen the footage of the Tassie Tigers recently? They still exist and you'd be crazy to think in the wilds of Tassie that some Tigers haven't survived. I'm unsure if you know how remote and isolated the west coast of Tassie is
The last one said to have been left outside in the cold one night.. Question didnt they live in this habitat all there life? Cold outside killed it off? I don't think so.. this was there backyard they would adapt to there sorrounds.. Recently a spotted qoul said to be extinct since the late 1880s 130 yrs ago was captured in a farmers trap. Also yesterday a long footed pottoroo was filmed on a trail camera.. that was supposedly gone done finished aswell..its possible never say its done.
I don’t think you have ever spent a night out in the open !
There’s a big temperature differences between an open field ind in under the brush on a below zero night .
@@splashpit i have but i dont have fur to withstand the temperatures. They can regulate there body temperature. My point is they spend all day outside in these harsh conditions. I think it injured itself trying to get out or died from the stress off being confined in a cage.. Yeah its cold i get it. But to die from the cold. Mmmm i doubt it myself. Each to there own conclusion..
In their native homes, the TT would have warm, dry and deep burrows, so to be left out in the open was thoughtless, cruel and a death sentence... No cover, no nothing ..
It is for the best, for hidden reasons you do not know.
The thylacine is still alive. It will be found. There's a few really interesting photos and videos, and lots of foot print casts. You just need to did to find them.
Nah.
There's no excuse now for video footage to not exist, if they exist.
Yup.. Also half breeds with Dogs i reckon .. One of the keepers had to have.. I've seen Many Cougars through Victoria over the years and they are hard to see at all! Very Elusive and i reckon I've even been stalked by them at one point
Nah you didn't.
Thylacines were not canines, so you can't cross breed them with dogs.
have you ever heard of the stories of british cats on the foggy moores, why do you think it's always foggy, because they're just cats, not big lions or bears or tigers, how about you do a real job and find the difference between a river and a saltwater crocodille
It gone
Forget it. It's gone, get over it.
The person who made this clip hasn't done much research in the right places. It's very sad that so many people have come forward but have been ridiculed and put down by the nay sayers.
Several times the thylacine has been given into the authorities only to be told otherwise despite the people saying black and blue what they found. Why is it that this happens when our government officials are supposed to represent all Australians?
Now before you say what about photos etc, some were found on the side of the road and cameras were not apart of everyday life and when evidence is shown today it's either fake or too blurry etc. so a get out of jail free card.
One person had a really good case and has photos etc of them and their family playing with them but have held onto them because we know exactly what would happen if they got out into the media. Do you think the government would just lay idle on these images? Of course not.
If you accept one photo or dead body, all the others become legit. That means the farming and forested areas would need to be stopped and protected. This includes international buyers for the timber and grain industry which would political suicide and massive loss of money.
I don't consider myself a thylacine guru but after asking people and calling them up I have a totally different perspective on this, why?
Who did you research with to get the answers?
"No one's been able to find one,probably not there". Hahaha.
Got news for you pal.