'SA loses significant amount of skilled professionals'
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Institute for Security Studies founder Jakkie Cilliers says the South African government is blocking the potential that foreign workers can bring to the country's economy. He says SA is losing a significant amount of skilled people.
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Which skills are lacking in South Africa? These generalizations mean nothing. A sposal visa in not a skills visa.
The higher level of unemployment is one of the reasons. Also, we as South Africans also go through so much to work in other countries. Sometimes, we have to do extremely difficult courses and very expensive. I guess, going to work in a foreign country is always frustrating.
I don't think you understand what you are saying. As a black South African living abroad, I did not find it difficult to apply for a job overseas. The pathway to neutralize myself to a PR was so easy.
Bullocks! I have skilled and experienced locals seating without a job. A ton of young graduates as well. Even abroad, they are not willy nilly prioritizing foreigners over locals. Only critical skills are sought after. This disrespect display towards Ministers subjecting them to ridiculous interviews to explain himself does not happen in any country abroad. You wait even over a year if need be, they ain't begging or care about your urgency. I am waiting for a renewal work permit in Poland for 8 months and my temporary residency permit card has just been issued 3 days ago after one year and two months. Commissioner of oaths which they call (Notarized) by a lawyer mind you, no police station stamp is recognized. My daughter passed away vin Sweden in July. Guess what! they use the Post office to communicate. I left the country still haven't made much progress. This is supposedly the best in Europe. Laughable about zhenophpbia, go to Europe, it's not spoken but systematic. Let them leave to go in the longer ques but not complain. Mr! you are just disrespectful cause Minister is Black. Stupid stamp? WOW! He'll yes! Make it as difficult as possible. Stop letting these self entitled people degrade you. SA is playground for Criminal syndicates living posh in Camps Bay etc because of the lineancy they don't have the luxury of in Europe.
I concur with your comment. Let’s respect the process. When we apply for visas to first world countries, we comply with their rules and regulations.
Just a couple of months ago, a Bulgarian drug lord killed was in an affluent neighbourhood in CPT.
You are seriously bringing race into this??? The minister isn't disrespected because he/she/it is BLACK. The ministet is disrespected because he/she/it is incompetent, or uneducated, or xenophobic etc.... GET A LIFE.!!!!!
Jakkie please find you're mental medicine and take them, because with a clearer mind you'd realise we have enough "unemployed skilled people". Otherwise contact Helen Suzmann and find another country to send you're "foreign skilled migrants"❤
Exactly.
Motsoeladi has so much hate for foreigners. No solution all he does is complain...
WHY IS HE SAYING AN IMMIGRANT RETURNED TO UK HAVING A PHD IN ECONOMICS BECAUSE HE COULD NOT GET THE WORK PERMIT. HOW DID HE COME TO THE COUNTRY TRYING HERE THE WORK PERMIT? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPLIED IN THE ORIGIN COUNTRY'S SA EMBASSY. WE HAVE ENOUGH INDIVIDUALS WITH PHD DEGREE IN ECONOMICS HERE ON ACADEMIC FIELD.
He left because his SPOUSE couldn't get a work permit. South Africa doesn't even give permission to work to legal spouses of South Africans which is highly ridiculous.
@@nickwidmer9044 Than go to Europe than and work there with your spouse.
Thanks Lunga Masuku. These people want to give away our country, period. Treating their own so poorly. It's sickening. Bayanyanyisa. They think we don't see their plan? God does not sleep nor slumber. 🙏✌️
And we see right through them.
Why would anyone with any skills want to go to South Africa? It's not safe, infrastructure is failing. We left when it was decided that my husband was too old to contribute even with a wealth of knowledge and did not fit the BEE narrative. One robbery too many, it was just not worth staying. Now living and working abroad where age is not a factor and skills are recognised.
Foreigners equates to unskilled Africa...
LOL Cape Town is full of Germans and other Europeans. Franschhoek is like a "swallows" town in the summer. The fact is the quality of life you can afford earning in foreign currency is way better than living in Europe. South Africans living in the UK and Canada generally agree that you take a standard of living downgrade moving - from house to apartment, no domestic worker anymore, eating out less and less free things to do outdoors. I live in Finland but I definitely miss home and when I go, I go with European friends, once they visit once, they keep coming back - its just bang for buck. Your concerns are real though - we've let crime and corruption get out of control and we have to reel it in while we still can, the other grievances though you bring up are personal.
@@bvovz it's definitely personal when you nearly lose your life. Hopefully you never have to experience this.
lol, south africa is heaven for us zimbabweans
The funny part is that South Africa never asked for your assistance in the first place. If you are not satisfied than leave, it's simple as that.
They continue interviewing this dude and we don't know what his talking about. His numbers doesn't correspond with DHA and the disaster his talking about doesn't exist. What is his agenda anyway?
I concur. When did ‘PHD in Economics’ become a critical skill?
South Africa must prioritise South Africans first are people are not working
I'm hoping to start a project that will bring a lot of new jobs but requires significant foreign skills... now I am not keen anymore... Namibia here I come!
Please stay that side 😂. We don’t need you here. Kom ek bel my mense daar by home affairs 😊. Entry deny 😅
I heard Namibia home affairs don’t dish visas easily.
Lets give the millions of unemployed South Africans the attention,support and opportunity they need before we worry about some germans or Canadians that want to make money of us
@lungamasuku good idea, but then DO IT! Talk is cheap. A skilled professional in let's say his/her mid 40's has a 40 year training path behind them (primary, secondary, advanced education, practice and experience). So be aware that your suggested route is no quick fix.
How? with 30 pass marks and lack of jobs for skilled workers? Nothing good is been given, neither are there any plans to improve the situation. Talk is cheap. Actions matter
How many competent eletrical engineers can 45 million black South Africans generate?
1....2? Cause, it looks like Eskom ain't got any
Dudula members. think there is someone who is hired to create jobs for them. The reality is, you create a job for yourself. There is no bird that wake up waiting for another to feed it, employ it, house it, etc,
@@wernerstapela4616 We are doing it already and you white people are complaining. If you are not satisfied than leave its simple as that.
I’ve been in Canada for 10 years and all my family doctors have been South African
5:21 we have enough experienced executives in South Africa.
The requirements mentioned here are the same in other countries as well
So what will they do here with BBBEE and cadre employment of people with no qualifications for the jobs they get at HUGE salaries???? Especially if they're not black????
when will South Africans acquire such skills if we always outsourcing during covid Doctors were brought in from Cuba and paid millions but what did we gain from all that, we need to rather revamp our education and teach our people those skills?
Thats a long term option, a short term will be to import some skills .we import all the solar products while we need them now....We don`t have capital or skill to get the raw material just across the border and build solar batteries
Education is useless, since even the so called educared cant create jobs for themselves.
Yep, the 1st sign that a country is failing is when the young graduates and other highly qualified people leave their country to pursue a career in a healthier environment.
Other indicators are personal wealth flowing out of the country, disinvestment together with foreign investment slowing down.
Our government lacks much intellect so only lives for the day so they aren't really concerned with the knock on consequences of highly qualified people emegrating.
Note ... This group when leaving the country directly reduces the revenue that state coffers so desperately needs to provide social welfare for those with no skills, unemployed and elderly .
Possibly, many if they did not leave would start businesses providing much employment for the people.
Sadly, this fact is inconsequential to the state as they are disadvantaged by their lack of vision and intellect.
Well said!
But life is not as good AS you may think.Those abroad understand what i mean
Majority Black pipo are obsessed with living in foreign lands, especially ladies.Very few pipo are Like Mubita Nawa of Zambia,WHO willingly decided to return from America.
See,Whites who come to Africa Work AS Bosses regardless of their academic Background but Blacks can possess good qualifications but end up cleaning places like railway stations,offices,toilets,manual work kind of jobs
Your guest has obviously never applied for a visa to travel abroad or even worse work abroad same red tape exists.
The skills he is so concenrned about might be in the country already but cannot be employed? Or the skill he wishes to import will just be another overpaid executive sitting in corporate somewhere.
I dont think its so straightforward as he implies.
ANC = Kakistocracy
At one stage we were 1/4 of an Australia (roughly speaking). Last time I checked, we'd become 1/5 of an Australia, and my wild guess is that we're on our way to becoming 1/6 of an Australia, now.
And then you look at how Australia has so far exceeded us (when you'd expect the two countries to be approximately at the same level, given things like resources, at least). My next wild guess is that they've managed what they have by attracting the right kind of foreign migrants (whose education and training over decades was paid for by someone else - like South Africa, for instance).
And then if I'm right, it would be obvious that the way we turn around and start heading toward becoming 1/4 of an Australia again would be to do the things that they do, that work. Become a great place to emigrate to. Become a great place to retire to, even. Become a great place to live a "swallow's life", arriving in Spring; flying North in Autumn.
It might be more difficult to do this, but I think we can even turn what's now illegal unskilled migration from a cost into a benefit. (Maybe by buying off potential protestors against it, somehow?)
Australia is recruiting people with the right kinds of certificates, to a large extent, and a certificate is not the only measure of someone's potential.
By comparison, we receive Africans whose families have decided that the migrant going to South Africa is the brightest and the best in their family. (Not always, but a lot of migration is about family survival, rather than about more individual career development, etc.) This is just an impression, but I've met a lot of real "go-getters" from "up North", here. My guess that their "family recruitment processes" are working quite well. We receive a significant proportion of other Africans who just need a bit of space to make things happen in one way or another - whether that's by putting in a good days work, or by developing something you need a more advanced economy's support to develop.
OK, so how?
My best idea so far is to have "enclave cities" near the ports (or near new ports we might develop if this works well). Have "migrant-friendly" conditions within these. Also have manufacturer-friendly conditions for what one would hope would be export industries based on the labour available in such migrant-friendly zones. And then actively recruit. Instead of waiting at the barbed wire with guns and police vans to catch illegals, give them a direct path to a job in a "free zone" (just thought of something that might bear comparison).
Keep the rest of South Africa for the more xenophobic South Africans ( but develop new "migrant centres" if this turns out to be a good idea.)
Probably the one concern that nobody seems to have, but would have more reason to be concerned with, would be that of migrants becoming citizens in time, and getting enough of the vote to influence future SA politics.
I'll just pretend that the idea is so great that it's just guaranteed to be successful for a minute, now and consider how we might extend it. If we manage to become the top employer of Africa's brightest and best (with the ultra-brightest and uber-best becoming part of the wider economy - full citizens, as they reach the kinds of skill levels an Australia would accept, maybe - and only the "unskilled" being restricted to special zones, we might become a pretty successful country.
But the extension? We could reach out to the Carribean, maybe? And to the oil-free parts of the Middle East. And, for a while, Dalit India, even. There's no need to keep it Africa- exclusive. (The political risks are best mitigated by maximal diversity.)
Hey, we could accommodate the political migrants of the EU? This is a safe haven. If we build up a job market like that, we could offer to accommodate asylum seekers other countries are struggling to accommodate.
The thing to think about, as far as this last idea goes, is a better version of it, rather than just a way to say no to it. It might be a bad idea, as is, but if you stop at just showing it up as that, you've only done half the thinking you need to do. If it's a bad idea, fix it. Come up with something that accommodates migrants instead of spending money on resisting them (while going down, down, down, in this spiral we're in) that makes sense. Come up with a better idea, not just a stupid "refutation" that stops short.
Unfortunately we have a complete breakdown in any government department with a bunch of useless incompetent people drawing a salary while asleep at their desk. You can’t get any competent person assisting you in any government department.
Economics aside, we are losing sports stars to other national teams e.g. cricket and rugby.
Let them go!!,south Africa has more then enough people with qualifications that are sitting at home
They sitting at home because they don't have the skills to go abroad or work locally. No matter business South Africa is collapsing that's why it's helping ANC and business South Africa won't escape the backlash neither will the masses! Noone is going to pay 80% taxes anymore for the masses
I feel like media is perpetuating this narrative that home affairs minister is not doing anything bt at this moment,we are happy with his decision to take his time with spousal visas while prioritising the critical skills applicant . We are tired as SAns of this whites always appearing on tv to blow hot air . We have never had any problem with foreigners,we have always supported them bt this bullying must come to an end .
No wonder why you call yourself "blacklist entertainment".
@macbethmabena9816 thatha wena wena mabena
Zimbabwe style is coming, except for cape town , south africa is FUBAR.
there is no hope AT ALL.
Cape Town is in deep trouble, it's there policies in 94 that lead to this crisis! Cape Town is now sidelining South Africans who are qualified to work because they want cheap labour
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb we must learn to judge by RESULTS.
not emotions .DA does not enforce BEE.
that is why cape province doesnt have ONE POTHOLE, and if you buy a policeman a " coldrink" in cape town city, you get ARRESTED.
If you look after the small things...the big things takes care of itself.
@@basedsigma5634 Lol. As other provinces will rise Cape Town will remain the same because they are racist. It's black people's time now. So that 5% minority can't outshine 85% majority united. Cape Town will be isolated because they think they know too much. Durban is a coastal province too, so give them 5 years and we will see which is better. Cape Town's middle class doesn't exist but in other provinces it will be the middle working class that will make those provinces rich which means we will see more rich working black people rather than Cape Town that is enriched by rich foreigners who use it as a place to retire and foreign tourists. Those foreign tourists will no longer visit since Europe is falling they wont have the money to do so. Cape Town's middle class is broke so I wouldn't be happy if I were you because the regular citizens of Cape Town are broke and will continue to be so. Soon people will realise that if you want a great job, get out of Cape Town.
@@basedsigma5634 Your'll made a fatal mistake when your'll wanted to make a white dominated province in Africa. The world is multipolar now meaning its African's who will be the richest in the world now. Now do you think that rich African tourists will want to visit a white dominated province more than the other rich black dominated provinces? Of course not. Your white tourists will soon be broke and your'll will have no tourists 🤣🤣🤣. As Africans rise, more will the Europeans fall. So enjoy it while it last because Europeans will no longer be rich since they gained there wealth from exploiting African resources. They can't exploit any more which means there stolen wealth will soon perish. 🤣🤣😅😅😅🤣🤣👍👍👌
@@basedsigma5634 WESTERN CAPE HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF MURDERS ,CAPE TOWN IS FOR THE RICH AND THERE IS NO MIDDLE CLASS
Everyday they are taking Home Affairs minister for not granting them permission to enter South Africa with their scarce skills. Now what are you saying do we have those skills.
Let professionals leave, the country is sinkimg like TITANIC.
If its sinking why are ur ppl bullying our minister of home affairs who o approve their visas ?? Please go with them while on it 😂
South Africa doesn’t need foreign skills, they need to sort high employment. So people from other countries must go and use their skills in their own countries. Stop crying for South Africa it’s about time to go cry for your own countries.
Whose public money is it Sir? Is South African taxpayers money nt to be used for South Africans? Are you listening to yourself Sir? Our children deserve to aquire skills we pay tax in this country. Even some old people pay tax ,I Kno w what I'm talking about. Please!
make him president
😂😂😂
He is saying we must not invest in local talent how is that helping us, what he actually mean is that south Africans must remain on low positions while allowing foreigners to run our country how stupid.
Spot on
I WAS RECENTLY IN SOUTH AFRICA
THEY ARE HAPPILY ALLOWING TRADITIONAL HEALTH WORKERS FROM THE WHOLE CONTINENT TO COME TO THE COUNTRY
WHAT??????? We sit with qualified doctors and engineers who are unemployed sir. We imported Cuban doctors????? There HAS to be a balance and recruit in such a way that we dont put our own skilled professionals out of employment
We have enough skill Jakkie
Oh yes! Look at our SOE'S.
We import too much from China, we lack skill to produce locally at cheaper price
Thanks Tshidi! Amen 🙏
Why so surprised
The backlog is self inflicted. I think Home affairs should have streamlined the visa/waiver/permanent residence application processes before termination of the ZEPs to accommodate large volumes of applications for waivers e.t.c.
Some problems cant be wished away, you have to plan thoroughly before hand to avoid chaos.
BEE has been a big part of putting people off working here.
Oh uye lona osibamba ngbhongwana. Abayeke u minister phansi.
Im a fitter and can doo electricity but butt SA no no
Skills, skills, skills what skills are those in actual fact?
We learn everyday that graduates including engineers and technicians aren't employeable unless we say foreigners are the ones suitable because the economy is owned by foreigners.
We don't want jobs we want tangible wealth, not capitalism!
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What do you want? You want communism?
And where will you get that, work for it?
Talking is very cheap!
Communism is wonderful until the wealth dries up owing to the lack of creativity, intellect and vision.
Capitalism is an evil but workable alternative until a better system is created and adopted.
Yes we are losing skilled professionals but I blame the educational system, it is below zero. No skills are learned any more, they rather sit on their behinds and wait for sassa.
Do you know wena Sir, you are South African, aren't you?; Don't we have people in this country who can be trained for these skills you are talking about? Don't we have goverment to talk to for unemployed South Africans to be trained? Charity begins at home. Take your own South Africans to school they are roaming around in townships, intelligent folks , period. Stop xenophobic narrative please Sir.✌️
With high unemployment of skilled workers, if we upskilled those who left, why not up skill the unemployed?, unless with so called skilled we means specific race, not considering millions black South Africans asking for opportunities to prove and improve themselves. Most of us we are sitting at home as we speak asking for opportunities with 14years experience in labor market, but South Africa have shortage of workers, that is so upsetting😢
We are leaving
8:49 Founder of the Institute for *Security Studies:* One can buy a data-capturing system to vet the credentials of foreign nationals off the shelf! *What???*
Thu more they want to be strict thu more people become corrupt.
This man is always negative. Why are you interviewing him? People move around as they want there is no one who can stop them.
He is very experienced and with an honest opinion on the situation. Bury your head in the sand and see where that gets you.
Hes a typical white rich man who thinks very less of black SAns , they all have the same mindset that we are xenophobic blaah blaah . We are tired mannn
I am a picky eater...
Oh so this is the Jakkie that farts every single second about DHA!!
Number, not amount. English ffs..
Skilled PEOPLE are also needed to give SouthAfricans knowledge of what they are not able to do .South Africa economy is short of Skills , Engineering etc.for this are not advanced. OFCOURSE there is not trust anymore .The SouthAfricans are they themselves hanging around no job..Maybe when they share the Skills can be a good sign to economy. Who is bringing Skills in the country with lot of criminality?.Not Motsoaledi is at fault the law shows him how to work with the Permits in this country. He is doing what the Rules of of the Home Affair laws. is telling him to do.Lot of criminality not trust of anyone anymore.Most of the investors want to bring their own employees. Who have experience of the certain Skills.mmmmmm .How did SouthAfrica do those years when Ford ,Volkswagen General Motors etc that time were jobs for SouthAfricans too..
😂😂😂 same timet thay are deny skilled Zimbabweans permits out of hae and spite 😂😂😂
ZIMBOS ARE NOT SKILLED 😁😁