4.7 - Everything Is Wrong With Natlan's Dragons | Genshin Lore & Theory, Natlan, Saurians.
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00:00 Start
01:03 Healing Volcanoes
03:38 Just Saurians
04:43 Natlan's Ecology
08:12 Natlan's 6 Saurians
09:30 Ranjit's Saurian Trials
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Something interesting I don't see people talk about in regards to Pyro is that we ALREADY have evidence as to its strangeness. The samachurls (little hilichurl mages who attack you using elemental damage purely, except for swinging their staff at you) all use separate elements, yet if we look into the enemy archives, we see that samachurls use every element... except Pyro.
yeaa only pyro torches lol. Maybe we'll finally see one here, but instead of a samachurl, its a ranger 💀💀
@AruHiseki I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out the rare Pyro Samachurl or Pyro Ranger were natives of Natlan transformed by the curse inflicted by the Heavenly Principles destroying Khaenri'ah, whom were still respecting the taboo action of leaving their homeland, but I see that as unlikely.
1:41 There is one shrine of depths on Right hand bottom side
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The ideal of Natlan is "War", but hasn't yet emphasized the destruction or suffering of war. Instead, it emphasizes the "evolution" that war brings. I suspect that, similar to the Electro and Cryo ideals, the Pyro ideal has changed slightly over time (Makoto sought transience, where Ei sought eternity). In this way, it could be seen that the old "Evolution" pyro archon was killed by the current one- proving that "War" was the ultimate form of "Evolution". In reality, war and evolution are one and the same, only differentiated by the context in which we use the words. In the natural world, evolution goes hand in hand with extinction, much like how the spoils of war comes hand in hand with the suffering of the weak. I think we will be spending a lot of time watching NPCs yap about these concepts in the coming year.
In this theory, the Saurians simply embody the core theme of the region. It's probably that there was once only one common ancestor Saurian species, being a pure pyro elemental. However- it went exctinct, and "evolved" in multiple ways, each one superior in their own niche.
“Only through conflict do we evolve” -Doomfist
My theory is that Saurian used to be pyro Vishap but have been evolved into Saurian by humans a bit like what happened with Bathysmal Vishap. I suspect the pyro dragon may also be ☠️.
Natlan people casually domesticating vicious fire breathing beasts into chubby lil' drills
Isn't every sovereign dead except Apep? The Hydro Dragon was reincarnated, The Geo Dragon was reincarnated, zero mentions about Electro, Anemo, or Cryo
@@irfanzufayri6116 I mean, no mentions would mean their fates are ambiguous, nothing's proven until outright stated
Plus, there wasn't really been much of a need to include either of the Electro and Anemo Dragons in the story of their respective regions, there just isn't any reason to fit them into the plot unlike Neuvilette
@4ntok yeah that makes sense looking back, it's just that their sheer absence is eerie to me
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Thank you for the spider warning! Not everybody gives them and my phobia would have sent me jumping to the ceiling haha
I find it funny how people are judging Natlan just purely on the teaser. Like ‘cutesy dragons, it must be bad’ kind of thinking. Like this is hoyoverse we’re talking about. There are gonna be tears.😭
that 'cutesy dragons' *is* enough for me to say it IS bad - they look TOO MUCH like pokemon and nothing like REAL WORLD mythological creatures, be it flying 'dragons' like Dvalin or various Vishaps and 'sentient flowers' a'la Whopperflowers or Regisvines. it has broken the immersion for me and made it cartoon-y which i say is BAD - no matter what tear-jerker plot emerges from it.
@@binsarm9026 ok
Yah i mean i don't hate a cute things but it doesn't look like NATION OF WAR at all
@@goodday3581 Genshin normally plays on the main theme given to each region, subverting what you'd expect it to be based upon.
Like Sumeru is the nation of wisdom, yet the archon is a child, who is perceived as lacking wisdom, but who has wisdom not found anywhere else in the akademiya.
Or Inazuma is the nation of eternity, yet Ei's concept of eternity changes as the story progresses, which seems contradictory.
So Natlan not seeming like a "war" in the traditional sense is in line for what Hoyo do. I'd expect them to focus on other types of war apart from physical and violent confrontations.
So don't jump to conclusions and let them cook.
@@stormer2349 they can cook whatever concepts, that's fine. but the design is totally *different* from existing Genshin imagery. Aranara were ok, they were not visible to all, stayed in one area and had a basic shape. Melusines were created by Elynas and also have a form not radically different from humanoid, but Saurians; *so* vastly changed from previous dragon imagery, it just smells of Disney-style merchandising gimmickery with various forms for each element/type.
The pyro saurian appears around 0:20 of your video, just that it is soaring the sky.
it flies, so it might be the anemo saurian even if it's red
So we are completely glancing over the fact that we have 3 saurians left to be revealed, and also that we are literally swimming through lava during the hydro saurian showcase?.... Yeah sure buddy
Literally every single one of the saurians we see in the teaser use pyro, what do you mean there doesn't seem to be a unity of pyro or pyro theming? The Geo one melts the rock forming a lava surface while underground, the Hydro one looks half lava half water in the thumbnail and swims in both, and the Dendro one burns the plants as it uses them.
Also, "home to fire-breathing Saurians" doesn't mean all Saurians breath fire... It just means there are some that breath fire in Natlan.
No. I want Pyro Saurians only. Like Pyro Neuvi. No mixed Pyro Saurians. only Pyro.
@@AruHiseki that's... A bit redundant don't you think? Both gameplay wise or lore wise the fact saurian has many attributes yet all seems to incorporate pyro is just a much more unique and interesting idea
I already had a theory on my comment on another video, so I'mma just paste it here.
Here's some thing that I noticed. All of the saurians that we see contain some traces of pyro.
When the geo one dives in the ground, it splashes some pyro into the ground it swims through, texturing the ground into an orangey and molten color.
The hydro one has some bits orangey color in the crevices of it's blue skin too, and can even dive in lava, not just water.
The green one, probably dendro, related to our terrorshroom friend has some orangey color to their overall design: the inside of it's mouth, it's long rope-like ability, and the round thing that it grabbed. Maybe that orange thing sealed inside that blue round stone is infused with pyro, and provides the saurian with energy to jump in the air.
Lastly, that flying thing we saw at the end, it looks like it will be one of the 6 saurians too, like the three we were just shown. Maybe that'll be anemo, since anemo loved to swirl and absorb the element it's infused with and retain their color. Making it look red-orange instead of the typical color coded design an element is designated to.
Basically, we will have all the elements as saurian companions in natlan, only except for pyro. Since pyro is present within all of them, and is the main theme for the region of pyro. Fitting because we'll have 6 pyro infused saurians in the 6th region so far. Unless we get it as a special saurian after the story? Could it be that we get it from the pyro sovereign or xbalanque, and receive a pure pyro saurian companion?(maybe we might even have the pyro sovereign as our companion!)
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Yeessss exactly! Ive been wondering why is it that we seem to be getting mixed pyro saurians but no pure pyro just yet.
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As funny as Milk in Teyvat.
As funny as cavalry captain with no horses
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I wonder with it being the nation of war if its going to have war games like gladiatorial combat and other such things
10:17 this is a triceratops. The Ngoubou of african folklore and in the lore of the talking stick. And i will say is electro because the pearl seahorse of Fontaine.
how u know o.o I read the Talking stick but i always thought theyd be separate saurian types from the trailer... tru though it does look like the head (plate)? of a triceratops..
@@AruHiseki The Talking Stick is foreshadowing all! XDD
For example the Kayeke in the Talking Stick is an african cryptid ape like, so Dendro saurian.
The Mahamba is an african cryptid alligator like, so Hydro saurian.
The Kongamato is an african cryptid pterodactyl like, so the red flying Saurian, must be pyro. Genshin never fails its colour system.
The Muhuru is an african cryptid stegosaurus like, so the Geo saurian.
And the last is the saurian that Tupac the Giant couldn't ride, i suspect is like a bat in the last symbol, something related to Camazotz in mexica culture, and could be anemo.
Rathalos mention! Yep when they were shown they reminded me of Monster Hunter Stories cos of Rathalos-looking saurian that flew by
fellow hunter
Umm there are pyro dragons in natlan for example, that red flying one in the teaser that’s the pyro saurian dude
Click bait video 😂 we both know that there will be Pyro dragons in Natlan.
that’ll be the anemo one
@@ryanv4ughan no it’s very likely there’s an Anemo saurian the only one that doesn’t seem to be in natlan is cryo
@@isaiahhaley4816 it’s very obvious that the SIX saurians will be the SIX elements minus pyro because they’ll all have pyro elements included
@@ryanv4ughan umm no I’ll have all of the elements except cryo because natlan is a nation far in the west and is known as the nation of Pyro which means it’s very unlikely that will get a cryo saurian in natlan the pyro saurian was already revealed in the teaser with it being the winged red dragon in the vid its symbol is even seen that looks very similar like it
This missing surian is the cryo one. We could see a flying red one the looks like its the pyro one
yesss.. no cryo yet, theyre prolly saving it for Snezhnaya lore 😅
I think other comments have also stated that all saurians should probably have at least a little bit of pyro in them and that they will represent reactions of pyro with the other 6 elements (Vaporize, Melt, Burn, Pyro Swirl, Crystalize, Overload)
And I think the pure pyro dragon or saurian could either be the pyro sovereign (maybe Xabalanque) or since we all know every archon so far isn't really human but some form of elemental being that took or created a human form, such as Venti being a wind spirit, Ei and Makoto pure incarnations/embodiments of lighting, Nahida and Rukha being the Irmensul avatar, specifically a branch of the Irmensul; Furina/Focalors being an oceanid that took on a human appearance and body, we don't know what Egeria was, but some have theorized that she might be the first Oceanid because of her tears that created the others, and Zhongli is a complicated one because he has the archon form, Human form , the form of the Adepti dragon has been confirmed to be his main forms, but none of them the original or real one, which means he is a shapeshifting being (it fits the element perfectly, because stones, metal, stone, clay- in other words earth can be shaped to take many different forms)
So that means that Muarata could be the pyro saurian or dragon turned into a human form
The problem is.... we already have that quality in the Geo Vishaps and these are a pure lineage, and given that we know that each of the Dragon lordes preside over their respective element, I think that's a bit ar off.
Hopefully they stick with Geo in a new strain. Bigger Geovishaps can change elements. Primo & Azdaha can use almost all elements 😅
@AruHiseki haha I hope they do as well 👌 great video nonetheless !
i really expected lava pools lol
I’m guessing they’ll drop feed others in.
I feel like there's gonna some kind of banished tribe in the Mare Jivari who used to ride the forbidden Pyro Saurians or something like that. Hoyo has a habit of doing the secret lost part of a larger group thing
Hell yeah! Mare Jivari tribe! We coukd maybe meet the souls of Tenoch and friends too
@@AruHiseki It'd be great if we could meet Tenoch in some form. I felt ripped off that we never met Deshret at the end of the Golden Slumber series or at any point in Sumeru
Wasn't there also a Lost branch of the Akademia as well in Sumeru?
@@arnowisp6244 Yep. Lost Darshan, the Order of Skeptics
The clip of natlan reminds me of tower of fantasy
where is the endless war nations of dagon that if u try to leave u be curse..
personally i wanted Natlan to be hell or dangerous as fuck. Which is everything is on anarchy and chaos
alam mo rin ang hinihintay ko sa natlan yung mga pagkain nila
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We probely only get 3/4 pyro user there as always the Nastion we visit never have the majority of there own Vision
*Mondstadt:* Venti, Jean & Sucrose
*Lyiue:* Zhonli, Ningang & Yunjin
*Inazuma:* Ei, Yea Miko, Sara & Kuki
*Sumeru:* Nahida, Tighanari, Collei, Alhaiten, Kaveh (belive the only nastion who have the most of there kind but it make sceme due fact Dendro was not release till that moment)
*Fontaine:* Furina, Neavilette, Sigwinene
Natlan: Arcon, the 2 person who know or at least ahve info about them & something in between ???
I already told you guys that we're having Dragon City in Genshin Impact!
Umm huh? They’re not mixed? There’s more versions of those saurians they just only showed a 3 of them?
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I'm just afraid Natlan will turn into a "gotta catch them all" situation. I was taking a break and missed the event referenced here.
Same, it’s legit so bright it hurts my eyes, and I’m worried it’ll be like “pay 1600 primos for the ultra mythical rainbow dragon” or something
lol wtf are you two on about
@@forsenEreal
They probably will just copy wuwa echo mechanics. They won't be making it as good as wuwa, but it definitely will add more fun factor to natlan.
no like Pokemon? 🥲
hmmm this has to do with Celestia. Some dragons chose a more "enlightened" path if you so will, and the other dragons think they are silly and they turned out to be right so there is that. The dragons that did not commit to a bond with Celestia turned out more like animals this is Hoyo's way of once again point to the natural order being the only solution to all the chaos abyss has created. Hydro dragons had their primordial water tainted with human memories resulting in a Melusine which as I understand is a devolved form of hydro dragon that also want's to mimic human behaviour because of that taint. This is not really the dragon way or how they were supposed to evolve. I think it is Theyvat's safety mechanism to return to the natural order, so it tries to repair what is broken by rebirthing dragons again. A Melsuine has a long way to go before it can compare to Scylla or Neuvilette in terms of knowledge and power however it is a start.
Melusines are not from the Hydro Dragon. they're from Elynas when Rene tried to reanimate him and Mary Ann blew them up. they are not descendants of the Hydro Dragon.
@@tartagliasjigglydworshipper they are. Elynas is supposed to be connected to the primordial water or at least I think she is it's also inside Elynas that the book of revelation can be accessed which I believe is a huge part to why Rhinedottir was interested in reviving her . The Melusines were created when mechanical gear crossed with Primordial water during an unknown explosion. Now Primordial water is what Neuvilette can control so it's very much implied that's what hydro dragons constitute of from the beginning but Melusine's comes with a token it's because they have to deal with all the human memories in the water I am 90 percent sure that's what Hoyo intends. All Melusines feel the same confusion and wants to fulfill random humans wishes and dreams. Neuvilette takes pity on them because he felt that same confusion before Focalors gave him back his authority. The conflict in Fontaine is that Egeria commits to a sin were she crosses Oceanids with primordial water this is the beginning cut scene of Fontaine. Just because it's not straight out said in game I think it has been said somewhere in game that the Melusines are a form of evolution of dragon, it's also said in game that a dragon doesn't have to look like a dragon. Genshin is doing this repeatedly bending the meaning of "self" and what that is.
@@tartagliasjigglydworshipper The trailer for Sigewinne dropped...it says dragonheir on her title. Care to explain? :)
the short you mentioned is not official though, it's fanmade from one of the hoyofairs
Indeed, but It is written. Moonlit bamboo Forest 😅
Monster Hunter mentioned
fellow hunter. Wilds is coming
13:44 Sam sulek 😂
Thank you so much for that sp*der warning! I would've died!
Undetstandable. I too am horrified of spiders 😅
no 'hey guys what's up?, Aru!!' 😢😢
the audio got messed up for this one. next one will have my greeting 😭
you want "floor is lava"? 😆😆
bro, never show a spider pic in your videos again pls
its based on south africa though
The named characters suggest Central America and West Africa, nothing about South Africa
Yeap, I mentioned it as africa as a whole and some countries in the pacific ring 😅
DRAGONS? Did they partner with POKEMON? THATS WHAT LOOKS LIKE