Fun fact: Raggedy Ann (and Raggedy Andy) was created in Irvington, IN a suburb of Indianapolis. Annabelle is not well liked for messing with the doll's image
Omg I didnt even think of that lmfao. I always laugh a bit to myself when i see the real doll in like documentaries, cause I had a Ragedy Ann doll when i was really young and i can only associate it the fun little doll i used to play pretend with.
@@mabelbritt7215Same! I was so confused & surprised when I found out the real Annabelle was actually a Raggedy Ann doll. Lol. I had both Raggedy Ann & Raggedy Andy dolls as a little girl, and though most collector-type dolls have always creeped me out, those ones never remotely made me feel even a little uneasy. Lol. My life size doll & porcelain dolls with glass eyes that looked like they were “following” you every which way you turned were the ones that I would hide before going to bed every night because I was convinced that if any of them came to life, it would be those ones. 😂
My favourite thing about Annabelle is Shane from buzzfeed unsolved knocking on the glass, taking pictures of her and calling her names. Nothing happened to him, famously.
My mom had them while I was growing up and ALWAYS placed them in corners of the living room. Never peed myself, but trying to walk to the bathroom with 6 porcelain faces staring at you from the corners of a dark room made me come close
I was blessed as a child born in 1979 to have owned Raggedy Ann AND Andy dolls just like the original ones in the story. I don't remember any scary occurrences happening with the dolls but I will say that the dolls combined with the velvet clown portraits on my wall did not make for a very comfortable room to grow up in.
I was born ín 1973 and had both Raggedy Ann and Andy as well. I would turn them around at night because the idea of them staring at me at night made me uncomfortable
The raggedy Anne doll would've been creepier than what they used in the movies. The fact that a raggedy Anne doll is so innocent looking and make it so evil would've been much scarier. Its also prob in most households at some point bc theyre so common
I used to work at a Superstore (Loblaw's for those of you living in Canada's shorts) and we had a special on these baby dolls that would laugh if a motion sensor was tripped. We had them on an end-cap shelf. I walked past and triggered ALL of them. I almost peed myself.
Dolls fit in the uncanny valley. That and liminal spaces are my two biggest fears. Not because they are necessarily “scary” but because they are uncomfortable.
🧸The doll in the movie needed to look more relatable and unpredictable. Not the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS EVIL doll design they went with...👹 This is one of many reasons I never bothered with any film in this franchise ^_^🧸
As a paranormal researcher and demonologist I want to try and explain what the warrens meant with the whole doll being possessed. A demon cannot “possess” a doll or object, but it can attach to certain objects. Attachments are what lead to possessions. Which comes to this, Attachment isn’t the same as possession. The demon or bad spirit doesn’t actually go inside the object but follows it around. Like dogs following there owner around the house, where ever said object goes, so dose the entity and it’s hope is that a unsuspected human who is “weak” or gullible will get ahold of the object. Now, all though the demon is attached to the doll, it can still temporarily wander and follow other people, in most cases we find this will happen up to 3 days and after that activity stops. Demons choose to attach to things that are somewhat comfort items to humans such as dolls, toys, wood trinket and jewelry boxes, chairs, things of that nature. So this is how haunted artifacts come about. Humans spirits can do the same just they don’t have a intention of harming anyone. For example “grama” loved sitting and rocking in her old wood rocking chair when she was alive and after passing she still likes to do that so a small piece of here spirit is still attached to that chair. it’s a belief that through our life small bits of your spirit are imprinted onto certain things and when you pass those small bits continue to “haunted” said things. Then there’s “stone tape theory” where the energy from past events (saddens, anger, violence, traumatic events) will imprint onto the surrounding fabrics of buildings and other objects. This creates what we call residual haunts which is simply a replay of energy’s and imprinted memory’s of passed events. Example, you live in a old mansion that had some walls rebuilt and door ways filled in, and you end up seeing a spirit float through the wall. well, back in the day when that spirit was alive there used to be a door where us went through the wall. Now it’s filled in after remodeling. Anyway good video 👍🏾
I don't get that spooked by dolls anymore. Sleeping in the spare room at my Grandma's just completely desensitised me from being scared of dolls. Exposure therapy. Broken dolls, old dolls, new dolls, one-eyed dolls, etc. 😎👉🏻👉🏻
Just found your channel and have been binging it since. Great work! I cannot speak to the Warrens, I don't know enough about them, but the fact that they have a museum from their cases is pretty messed up. I did just want to bring up a couple points. 1) Exorcisms are not always one and done. Some time cases can take a long while. So in this case, it's not that the priest failed or didn't do the exorcism right, it could have just been an involved case that required more prayers. Actually, if the story is true, yes it's an involved case. 2) Demons may not "possess" objects, but they can be attached to them. In this case, something very well may have been attached to the doll and brought into the home this way. Or was attached to the doll at some point, so yes, the Warrens may have had that experience in the car. The doll should have been prayed over, blessed and destroyed. The fact they kept it in a museum does make me question their motives and understanding of things.
Kurt Sutter, the creator of Sons of Anarchy, has a phobia of dolls. Through put the 7 season run, the most psychotic character in the show, Tig, would have scenes with dolls showing he's adversity to dolls. One was while he was on mushrooms and a more subtle one where he is covering up a doll figurine with a cloth napkin while in a dining room. I would crack up everytime.
From what I understand, when the site of Donna's apartment was subjected to research, they found that the apartment was the first recorded thing built on the spot. It's just another questionable plothole in the story.
I don’t know if it was true or not but I heard two reasons why the doll in the movies is the doll we get: Copy Right claims or the maker of the dolls didn’t want bad publicity for their creations
I like that the video challenges the Annabelle narrative based on what we know of demonology, and how the Warren's narrative essentially does not fit with theology.
My girlfriend and I were just talking about movie series we are going to watch. Some of her favorite movies to watch are the conjuring and Annabelle. Right after talking about it I open youtube and what shows up as the second recommended video, this one.
Parchment paper is unwaxed and used for baking fyi. Waxed paper should never be heated and is used for other kitchen tasks. You are, however correct about the term parchment being used for animal skin way back and some magic texts still call for “parchment” and do not mean the stuff you keep next your aluminum foil in the kitchen
I get why they changed the look of the doll but I definitely feel like they could've made that Raggedy Anne Doll utterly terrifying! The Conjuring Doll looks disturbing as it just sits there, however the sheer creepiness of a kids Raggedy Anne Doll just snapping back to OG kids Doll from some crazy disturbing Demonic Monster Doll!? As for the story based IRL vs Film? It was a brand new doll & picked up a spirit once it entered the apartment block. Well after they (VERY Stupidly) agreed to let the spirit stay! (WHY!?!!) the issues kicked up a notch, they gave it permission to essentially do whatever the F it decided it wanted to do! The whole exorcist deal, IF Demons are 100% real? Well, yeah I feel like the Catholic Church has it right (For once!) Picking a Priest with more than just a super firm belief in God/Christ is a very smart choice!
my take on the movie doll is that it LOOKS like it's posessed by a demon, so I can only say "why the fuck would you give that to your pregnant wife?" Meanwhile the real Annabel was terrifying not because of the demon but because of the fact it's an unassuming Raggedy Ann. An unassuming raggedy ann would have absolutely made more sense, not just because it's what the true Annabel is, but because it'd be more believable that you'd give your pregnant wife a seemingly harmless doll to give your newborn daughter.
If you ever have time, I highly recommend looking into how the Catholic Church investigates exorcism. A lot of it starts with getting to know the person’s state of mind and working up to demons. Sometimes things like possession are undiagnosed mental issues, so the priest and Church will recommend the victim get help. If it’s actual demons, then it’s a long period of prep work and spiritual fortitude. Some exorcisms can last for a long time, so a priest needs to be physically, mentally, and spiritually ready for anything. The whole casually “waving a rosary, saying prayers, and throwing holy water” is VERY dangerous for all human parties involved. Demons are strong, evil mother f***ers! No one who isn’t trained should mess with them.
@@jendoe9436 I've done a fair bit of reading, well what I can find that doesn't seem straight out of a movie y'know? Just because you write an essay with big words doesn't make it correct lol. I went down a bit of a rabbit hole personally. I have quite a severe mental health condition, I have seen some shit & for the longest time i was convinced I was being visited by more than just entities my brain created y'know? I won't go into my religious beliefs or at least previous beliefs, that'll be a shitstorm in itself lol. But definitely something I'd be interested in learning more about!
@@pirate_duck4985 oh I for sure agree on finding less ‘glorified’ (shall we say) information about things like demons and exorcisms. Had some friends in high school that weren’t practicing demonic stuff or anything (as far as I know at least), but the way they would talk about demons and evil stuff in general was kinda…. unsettling, I guess is the closest word. They were fine people overall, but quite anti-religious sometimes while I was practicing mine a lot more so that’s probably where I got the feeling from. There was a time I studied things like exorcism, paranormal, etc and found it fascinating. Overtime, though, I found myself burning out and becoming paranoid as I was looking at those topics from a media perspective, which is designed to over exaggerate and capture attention. I’ve calmed down a lot since and am a lot better about not getting into extremes. Sorry to hear your troubles, though. It can definitely be hard in this day and age to distinguish the natural, supernatural, and just general unknown. Since I don’t know your story nor do I expect ya to unload on some CZcams stranger, I’ll just say reach out if you can to who you think can help. If it’s something mental or physical, a professional should be able to assist with that aspect. Our bodies are very complex so if something isn’t going right internally or we have a lot of external stress, then it’s easy for us to get out of whack. Sometimes a new mindset and healthy routine can help us live a lot better. If you get that part checked out and can recognize lingering side effects, then for sure see if it’s something in your spiritual life or the equivalent of one. That one may be a lot harder to figure out since it’s something we don’t nurture or think about as much in our age of ‘scientific reasoning’ and all that. Without being specific, find good people who you trust and work from there. Find something wholesome that makes you feel connected to loved ones or just doing good for those around you. Positivity is contagious after-all. For more info on the process of discerning demons, paranormal, and all that, make sure to look into trusted sources. The Catholic Church does have resources about all that, which will have varying degrees of plausibility depending on your knowledge and trust in the subject or provider. I will say that though the Church does have certified exorcist priests, they do value the privacies of everyone involved and often the name of the priest won’t be stated until one gets to the actual possession stage. And from there people are often sworn to secrecy or high discretion. It just keeps people out of attention so they focus on self improvement and not be hounded for details about their traumatic experiences. But there are exorcists and researchers who have spoken out so they can caution and guide others. A few days ago a CZcamsr under “Capturing Christianity” talked about exorcism with a Catholic priest. There was a book released years ago by a former NYC (?) police sergeant about the stuff he saw and him helping priests with that. I would say if the source is glorifying the details or prattling on about everything, it may not be too good. I would focus on works that emphasize respect for all parties involved, make a point to explain the steps in determining what’s going on, and provide just enough to explain without going overboard.
I hang around in Witchcraft circles. I do practice it, but rarely. I do not understand why anyone would ever think summoning or communicating with a demon is a good idea. Best case scenario, you've wasted time and money on a ritual and you're back where you started, which couldn't have been great in the first place if you thought a demon would make things better.
We do. Any acknowledgement of the entity will generally empower it. Mediums are like diagnosticians. Sure they can tell you something is wrong but you still gotta go to the doctor after. If you think something is wrong go for the cure not someone to tell you what you already know
Funny thing about this is that my grandma made me a set of the guy and girl dolls from raggedy Anne and Andy, it's exactly the Annabelle doll and I have a copy of the doll in my closet as we speak
My gramma also made me a pair, I still have them both lol. Also have an old clown doll from Germany that was given to me in a plastic container (probably the one it originally came in) and it's infinitely creepier lol. First thing I did was accidentally break the seal on the container and there's a bell sitting near it in case he gets lonely and starts wandering lmao
My family runs a swimming school and as part of our equipment we have resus dolls, we have the normal ones that you see but we also have a load of the baby versions that are all sat on shelves in our storage room and I HATE being in that room when nobody else is on poolside
I think Annabelle has some truth to it, but Ed probably exaggerated the story of the doll, but Lorraine seemed like a more honest woman. I wouldn’t poke the bear, just in case it is real (like how many, including myself), will not touch a Ouija board just in case it is real. I think it may be exaggerated, and while I wanna drop kick or see someone drop kick that doll, I wouldn’t because if it is real, then I don’t wanna die to a raggedy Ann doll.
that's the same thing with the whole bloody mary superstition. i wouldn't try to do it, just in case it is real, because I don't wanna be cursed for spinning around my bathroom mirror at midnight
@@affinityxs yeah I completely get that. I've seen enough to know the supernatural is real but I don't know or understand all of it. I believe in ghosts and demons but I wouldn't mess with spirits from other cultures because it's very possible in my mind that we're all dealing with similar beings and that our cultures have just perceived them differently
@@johnnyringo5777 I think this goes either way, whether you believe in the supernatural or not. I personally don't believe it, but it doesn't mean I'll wanna mess with something believed to be supernatural 😂 it's not a good use of my time
Lorraine claimed to see/talk to angry native American spirits at Amityville, responsible for some of the hauntings and murders. No tribe experts have any records of a tribe in that area, and shed said that area was used for them to dump their 'crazies' to die from the elements, something _very_ offensive to suggest they did. So basically she made it all up and further stigmatized native americans. And helped the Lutz' (the people that 'survived the Amityville hauntings') make a ton of money and a mass murderer used it as a possible defense (his laywers since admitted to planning it all with the Lutz's so it's weird that she sensed ghosts and demons in a not-haunted house)
Wait Momlennial is banned finally?? Oh thank god. Im glad you dont have to put up with her anymore Aiden I know it was pretty rough for abit there, with her just non-stop going after you
My sister got one of those raggedy ann dolls from a thrift store around 2003-2005. It creeped her out at night so she would put it in the closet and she would wake up with it sitting up at the end of her bed. We slept with the closet closed in our room and the doors were on hanging tracks so they were very loud and difficult to open. It definitely would wake us up. Also, we would try to sit the doll up the way it was posed when we found it but neither of us could get it to sit up like that and stay there. I have always been a light sleeper, I would wake up just from the sun coming through the window. It was just the two of us and our mom living there and she slept in the next room over. The doors were also really squeaky. My sister got rid of the doll after a few months of having it. Thats not the only weird thing that happened living in that place. I think it was 2005 or 2006 when the really bad one happened that has scared me for life. My mom came in from trying to smoke a cigarette outside but her lighter was empty and would only spark and not make a flame. She put it on the counter and went to mine and my sisters room down the hall to help us clean. The three of us were cleaning for a bit and I went to the kitchen to get something for my mom. The lighter that wouldnt light maybe 20 minutes before had caught itself on fire and was burning a six inch high flame on the linoleum countertop. I called for my mom and she put the fire out (I dont remember exactly how, I was terrified and probably crying). I have tried to figure out a reason it would catch on fire. It was cold, the lighter was on the corner of the counter, oven and other appliances were not on, it was evening so no sun shining through the windows and heating it up, nothing else near it on the counter. If anyone knows what could have caused it I would love to know. Im still scared of leaving lighters unattended. Obviously I have no proof of any of this because I was a kid. Even if I thought to document anything we only had film cameras and my moms flip phone
I've always felt that the Warrens were just ridiculously successful shysters, everything they 'researched' was paranormal, I don't think I ever saw anything they looked into turning out to be nothing at all or a hoax. That is statistically impossible. And they managed to fleece the world for decades. I think as con artists I have to give them applause, but as people they frustrate me at the least, disgust me at the most. I'm with you on being terrified of porcelain dolls and just too human looking dolls in general. They are just way too uncanny valley for me. My grandmother had a porcelain doll that had real human hair and glass 'follow me' eyes...it was super creepy and I absolutely refused to sleep in the same room as it when we visited. I would have to sleep with my back against a wall with a full view of the door even in a room away from it, just in case. Everyone thought I was being dramatic but the doll really did freak me out! My sister years later thought it would be a hoot to gift me a little porcelain clown doll, a double whammy since clowns also terrify me...that thing went immediately in the trash as I cried and cussed her out lol. Also, Teddy Ruxpin scared me...it just didn't seem right that a teddy bear should move and talk on its own, so when my aunt had one she got for us kids to play with, I secreted it out of the house and buried it on the edge of her property, no one ever found it and as far as I know it's still buried there XD
I'm so with you on the doll fear. My gran gave me this antique porcelain doll as a child and my mom wanted me to put it on my bed. Needless to say I threw a fit and my mom stored it away. Man that thing was creepy.
i was always very afraid of raggedy ann dolls as a young kid, and when i learned the real annabelle doll was a raggedy ann it made perfect sense to me haha
Have you thought of doing a video of the stanley hotel in Denver I think it would be fun to learn about and, maybe some history of the shinning to since it's based on the hotel
The Warrens are full of shit, there are quite a few people who worked with them that said as much and a lot of the stories and fictions they came up with don't make sense, including Annabelle. Now it's mostly harmless, except for the time they tried to get a murderer off after he claimed to be possessed by a demon, which is the plot of the third and worst Conjuring film. The design for the Annabelle doll for the films is really trying to hard, dolls are creepier when they aren't designed to look creepy; the actual Annabelle doll looks far creepier; though obviously a children's toy company isn't going to allow a movie studio to make that toy into a a horror movie villain so they had to do something else.
So fun fact on that last part. In poltergeist (the original not the remake) the clown doll that comes alive and tries to strangle the kid was not a prop made for the movie that was a real consumer toy. Many children at the time had the exact same doll.
According to Catholic Demonology, the only way a demon can come into contact with an object is if it is cursed. That is, someone has to invite a demon over an object, like the opposite of a blessing. Instead of asking God to shed His grace on something, someone invites a demon to taint an object. So, yes, demons cannot possess an object. However, they can be cursed. Thus, if the stories are to be believed, then the doll has been cursed by a person.
There is another way but it doesn't go with Catholic it's other religions that believe an object associated with tragedy can be cursed. (Mirrors are also generally considered cursed if someone dies in the home) But for example an object used in a "sewerslide" would instantly be considered cursed.
You seemed sceptical about the 1 year in hospital. Although I doubt the story behind the alleged crash, I do want to explain about the possibility of spending one year in hospital in the 70's. So my grandparents were in a terrible car accident in the 50's, they were both in Hospital for 6 months (Grandpa) and over 12 months (Grandma) to the point that her young kids both thought that their aunty was their mother for some time. Now although there is a 20 year difference between 50's and the 70's it was only once key hole surgery was widely used that recovery times reduced significantly. For my grandmother the reason she was in for so long was she needed repeated facial surgery as she went flying through the front window glass and skidded across the ground, alongside the normal bone and organ damage in a car accident. A situation similar to the woman in the story so to me a year is plausible in the 70's.
Raggedy Ann dolls used to be a thing hand made by people. I was a kid in the 1980's and had one made by a family friend. I loved her. She was not creepy at all. A doll baby I found at a second hand shop was the exact size of a two month old baby. I was in my 20's. I liked her but my Mom and Dad flund her creepy as s#it. I think she was actually a mannequin for like a store cuz she was slightly poseasible and not like a regular toy doll. I still have her in my storage unit she freeks out the neighbors just sitting on top of a box.
A Spirit is different from a Demon. An evil spirit can preside in an object , most often a fetish. You have a soul and a spirit as well as another energetic state that is a process of physicality/time.
I'm not a big believer on haunted dolls, but it would be kinda funny if the whole "possessed" thing and haunted doll was its own kind of haunt. Like it’s nothing we have a name for yet, not a demon, not a ghost, not Folie a deux...
I have a duck dressed like a farmer that would "sing" Old McDonald by quaking if you touched his hat, but he started quaking by himself, even with the batteries removed once.
In 9th grade I held a presentation on spirit summoning in my philosophy class and my teacher gave me a B on the grounds of presenting my material on the premise that ghosts are in fact real, which was and is my belief. He said that I let too much of my personal beliefs flow into my presentation. I feel like for this video my former philosophy teacher would give you guys a B for similar reasons.
fun fact I've been exorcised multiple times Granted at least one of those was a group exorcism (waxed paper & parchment paper are slightly different. Butcher's paper should also be considered when thinking about these)
I find the certitude of of all this amusing. Especially the differentiation between ghosts and demons. Especially as my own experiences with the paranormal (that I never went looking for or even wanted) have convinced me some ghosts are indeed sentient and aware they are dead. I can’t speak about demons (if they actually exist and if they are not just malevolent “ghosts”).
I've never had proper interactions with any. The only time I saw anything is classify as supernatural was when I chased "my sister" up the stairs in our house and she vanished before I got up them. I turned around and went outside where my sister and her husband had just pulled into the drive and we're talking to my mother. I started screaming at my sister demanding to know how she got past me and outside. She hadn't arrived until right before id come outside she wasn't in the house.
I was (and am) the girl who hated dolls. I had a zoo full of stuffed animals and collect model horses. I have a huge collection of model horses, and some of them are 'test pieces' and worth a mint. I don't blame you one damn bit. "Baby dolls" and "American Girl" dolls ARE creepy as hell! Raggedy Ann and Raggedy Andy have been around forever. The are the subjects of a well-known children's book, and I had one. My aunt made me my Raggedy Ann doll (which was nice) but I never played with it and it was not at all the size of "Annabelle'. (and who give one of those to someone on their 28th) I somehow own a lot of stuffed tigers now. They're okay, they can stay. I think the Warrens were snake oil salesmen, they gained entry into your house by Ed doing a sketch of the home, appearing at the front door, introduced themselves, claimed they were drawn (ha) to the house because "your family may be in danger due to demons who want to slip into your home, may we come in? Here, Ed drew a lovely sketch for you." I don't know if they charged for their flim flam performances, but if they did it was a dead give away. No true 'worker' will charge you for a blessing or any ritual they perform. It's certainly true of any "Granny Woman" -- many of whom are often Cherokee. We are everywhere, and carry a great deal of Scottish, Welsh, and Irish DNA as they arrived in the Appalachian area and married many of the Cherokee women. (Cherokee women are the head of the household in every way, she owns the name, the clan affiliation, all material items and the children) They could effect a divorce simply by moving their husband's clothing and personal items and placing them outside, we do NOT charge any money for a home or personal blessing. It is given as a gift to help one in need.
Your description of ghosts - that of fragments of people that died traumatically that mindlessly repeat things from life - is seemingly only true of "residual" hauntings, the ones where things seem almost like short bits of film "recorded" and replaying on occasion. Other ghosts seem to be awake and aware, able to respond to things changing in their environment, even able to communicate with people. This means they might be able to lie, just as living people can lie. Saying that "only demons can lie" is a bit irresponsible. There's so much we don't know about spirits, it's really difficult to be absolutely certain of any of the "rules."
Just a reminder, Ed Warren claimed a photo of a guy in bell bottom jeans taken at some point between the early 1960's and late 1970's inside a Toys R Us was actually the photo of a ghost from the 1800's. Ed Warren wouldn't know the Paranormal if it came up and kicked him in the gonaids.
I remember I had a large raggedy Ann doll, maybe about the same size as me when I was 5 or 6. I have no idea what happened to her, hope she’s doing well😂
@Lore Lodge Orthodox Christian Laity have the authority to perform prayers of exorcisms over their property, children and spouses. When an Orthodox Christian priest does an exorcism, it's usually one and done. Before Covid I spent a few years as a lay Orthodox Christian Prison Minister. I'm a former lay Catholic Apologist, Orthodox 20yrs. The Orthodox approach is very different than the Catholic approach -- the Orthodox approach works.
6:20 Yessir. People misunderstanding the difference between a ghost and a demonic entity, like Miracle Whip and Duke's, the difference matters. If you really think there is a presence, contact your Clergy. 11:40 Wax paper, yeah go ahead, use it in the oven.
In mild defense of the movies, the director has said that the main Conjuring series is meant to reflect the Warren's real cases & the offshoots, like Annabelle, are meant to be more fantastical and don't stick to the 'true' stories. That being said, the Conjuring movies significantly white-wash the Warrens - not just their work investigating the paranormal but as people in general. Ed Warren was not a good person.
I think the reason the doll still had some attachment to it after the "exorcism" might've been because it was a minor rite exorcism.. they often say a full exorcism has to be approved by the church so a minor rite seems more of just a blessing than a full on demon fight.. I'm sure that's what was happening in the museum video as well seeing as anyone can perform a minor rite without jumping thru hoops with the church
Glass eyed porcelain dolls give me creeps. I think the film makers missed the make. Okay, can't use raggedy Anne, but why make Annabelle ugly. I think if she had been sweeter and more innocent looking makes her scarier.
Well if I'd need a priest for an exorcism I would only take a catholic one... And not only because because I'm catholic. Your description says it all... I'm not too sure about ghosts... But demons... Those definitely I believe in...
Hello! I know this may fall upon deaf ears but I was wondering the I guess legality of making a short film on a 411 case. I know this is the wrong type of video to ask, but I'm a senior in Highschool and for a senior project I wanted make a short film on a 411 case. I thought it would not only bring light to a case but also be very intriguing to me to research and then film it. If anyone could help me out with my question that would be amazing, I was just wondering if there were any difficulties around if its allowed or not? I know it seems stupid but I just wanna make sure.
I would also be careful if you're gonna theorize on who did it, because if you accuse people of crimes, there's a risk of being sued for defamation. If it's just a school project, it probably would never be heard by anyone involved (unless you're picking a local case), but I would be careful if you wanna upload it online
I think one of the stumbling blocks here, is the COMPLETE MISUSE of the phrase 'exorcism' versus 'cursed object'...and the truly 'deeper meaning' completely overlooked about Annabelle. She is NOT 'possessed' by a demon, she is an inanimate CURSED OBJECT that is being used BY a Demon...so guess what? An exorcism is NOT going to resolve this situation...and the one who made this 'cursed object' has no idea, or has not disclosed how to 'destroy' the cursed object. So...say an exorcism in the Vatican over Annabelle...it's still cursed (much like Solomon's ring...which god had to take back, due to the corruption of the ring itself). It has been defiled, it is corrupt, it is 'unfixable', and it cannot be purified. It can either be 'locked up' or it can be destroyed (properly)...all else is theater. Now, understand this difference, and you see how the 'misuse of words' is leading to your doubt...and does not diminish the very real threat that it does extend. Oh, and yes, cursed objects, if 'invited', CAN allow the demon to possess the one 'being kind to it'...but even upon exorcism from the person, the demon now has an anchor point, the doll, to return to, to 'wash-rinse-repeat' in the future from. The three original owners, or someone near them, did something VERY BAD with that doll, in its early years...that opened it up to being cursed...and 53 years later, it is VERY DOUBTFUL you'll ever find the 'unmaking' to end it now...
I agree with you on the Ed & Lorraine Warren channel. The new guy desperately needs a light and a mic. His vids are Wish version of season 8 episode 3 of GOT. It’s not spooky - It’s annoying.
The funniest bit about Warren cases is that every shred of "evidence" is Ed saying "trust me bro"
"what's ur source?"
"The Wise Tree told me"
'source?'
'divine intuition'
Pics or it didn’t happen
XD
That and fact that hundreds of people say he's the real deal.
Fun fact:
Raggedy Ann (and Raggedy Andy) was created in Irvington, IN a suburb of Indianapolis. Annabelle is not well liked for messing with the doll's image
Can Robert's story be next?
Yeah my grandmother handmade me a set of those dolls when I was a child. And I have them stored in my closet
Omg I didnt even think of that lmfao. I always laugh a bit to myself when i see the real doll in like documentaries, cause I had a Ragedy Ann doll when i was really young and i can only associate it the fun little doll i used to play pretend with.
@@mabelbritt7215That's sweet. 😊☺️
@@mabelbritt7215Same! I was so confused & surprised when I found out the real Annabelle was actually a Raggedy Ann doll. Lol. I had both Raggedy Ann & Raggedy Andy dolls as a little girl, and though most collector-type dolls have always creeped me out, those ones never remotely made me feel even a little uneasy. Lol. My life size doll & porcelain dolls with glass eyes that looked like they were “following” you every which way you turned were the ones that I would hide before going to bed every night because I was convinced that if any of them came to life, it would be those ones. 😂
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL BAKED GOODS, DO NOT CONFUSE WAX PAPER FOR PARCHMENT PAPER
My favourite thing about Annabelle is Shane from buzzfeed unsolved knocking on the glass, taking pictures of her and calling her names. Nothing happened to him, famously.
That man is reckless lol
That's because he trapped her soul inside his ribcage for all eternity
My mom’s childhood bedroom is filled with creepy porcelain dolls. I’m not a big “oooh doll spooky” guy but the sheer amount gets ya
My mom had them while I was growing up and ALWAYS placed them in corners of the living room. Never peed myself, but trying to walk to the bathroom with 6 porcelain faces staring at you from the corners of a dark room made me come close
My grandmother had porcelain clown dolls, she split them up amongst us grandchildren. I still have one
@@dark_fire_ice c-c-combo
I was blessed as a child born in 1979 to have owned Raggedy Ann AND Andy dolls just like the original ones in the story. I don't remember any scary occurrences happening with the dolls but I will say that the dolls combined with the velvet clown portraits on my wall did not make for a very comfortable room to grow up in.
I had ann and andy as well and sock monkeys all hand made by my grandmother i loved them.
@@kadiecarrell3959sock monkeys seem way more pleasent and friendly than horrible murder puppet
I was born ín 1973 and had both Raggedy Ann and Andy as well. I would turn them around at night because the idea of them staring at me at night made me uncomfortable
I had a Raggedy Ann doll. She was my buddy all through childhood.
"Donna was actually useful to society", milquemaster out for blood XD
This actually killed me when he said it 😂😂😂
I am growing so fond of this man.
Love the little blooper at the end of the video. I think you made the right call voting against breasticles 😂
It was a moment of clarity
@@TheLoreLodgepost-cut clarity? Y'know, cause video editing
The raggedy Anne doll would've been creepier than what they used in the movies. The fact that a raggedy Anne doll is so innocent looking and make it so evil would've been much scarier. Its also prob in most households at some point bc theyre so common
Yeah, same.
I know there was some legal copyright shit preventing it, but they could have made a harmless looking doll to match the real one.
I used to work at a Superstore (Loblaw's for those of you living in Canada's shorts) and we had a special on these baby dolls that would laugh if a motion sensor was tripped. We had them on an end-cap shelf. I walked past and triggered ALL of them. I almost peed myself.
What's a Loblaw's? Also, Canada is a hat. Hats don't wear shorts.
Dolls fit in the uncanny valley. That and liminal spaces are my two biggest fears. Not because they are necessarily “scary” but because they are uncomfortable.
Been going DEEP down a Lore Lodge rabbit hole lately. Definitely can pick up the sloshiness in this one.
🧸The doll in the movie needed to look more relatable and unpredictable.
Not the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS EVIL doll design they went with...👹
This is one of many reasons I never bothered with any film in this franchise ^_^🧸
The lore father: “I am terrified of dolls.”
Me: I’m with ya man!
As a paranormal researcher and demonologist I want to try and explain what the warrens meant with the whole doll being possessed.
A demon cannot “possess” a doll or object, but it can attach to certain objects. Attachments are what lead to possessions. Which comes to this, Attachment isn’t the same as possession. The demon or bad spirit doesn’t actually go inside the object but follows it around. Like dogs following there owner around the house, where ever said object goes, so dose the entity and it’s hope is that a unsuspected human who is “weak” or gullible will get ahold of the object. Now, all though the demon is attached to the doll, it can still temporarily wander and follow other people, in most cases we find this will happen up to 3 days and after that activity stops. Demons choose to attach to things that are somewhat comfort items to humans such as dolls, toys, wood trinket and jewelry boxes, chairs, things of that nature. So this is how haunted artifacts come about. Humans spirits can do the same just they don’t have a intention of harming anyone. For example “grama” loved sitting and rocking in her old wood rocking chair when she was alive and after passing she still likes to do that so a small piece of here spirit is still attached to that chair. it’s a belief that through our life small bits of your spirit are imprinted onto certain things and when you pass those small bits continue to “haunted” said things. Then there’s “stone tape theory” where the energy from past events (saddens, anger, violence, traumatic events) will imprint onto the surrounding fabrics of buildings and other objects. This creates what we call residual haunts which is simply a replay of energy’s and imprinted memory’s of passed events. Example, you live in a old mansion that had some walls rebuilt and door ways filled in, and you end up seeing a spirit float through the wall. well, back in the day when that spirit was alive there used to be a door where us went through the wall. Now it’s filled in after remodeling. Anyway good video 👍🏾
I don't get that spooked by dolls anymore.
Sleeping in the spare room at my Grandma's just completely desensitised me from being scared of dolls. Exposure therapy. Broken dolls, old dolls, new dolls, one-eyed dolls, etc.
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Just found your channel and have been binging it since. Great work! I cannot speak to the Warrens, I don't know enough about them, but the fact that they have a museum from their cases is pretty messed up. I did just want to bring up a couple points.
1) Exorcisms are not always one and done. Some time cases can take a long while. So in this case, it's not that the priest failed or didn't do the exorcism right, it could have just been an involved case that required more prayers. Actually, if the story is true, yes it's an involved case.
2) Demons may not "possess" objects, but they can be attached to them. In this case, something very well may have been attached to the doll and brought into the home this way. Or was attached to the doll at some point, so yes, the Warrens may have had that experience in the car. The doll should have been prayed over, blessed and destroyed. The fact they kept it in a museum does make me question their motives and understanding of things.
Kurt Sutter, the creator of Sons of Anarchy, has a phobia of dolls. Through put the 7 season run, the most psychotic character in the show, Tig, would have scenes with dolls showing he's adversity to dolls. One was while he was on mushrooms and a more subtle one where he is covering up a doll figurine with a cloth napkin while in a dining room. I would crack up everytime.
From what I understand, when the site of Donna's apartment was subjected to research, they found that the apartment was the first recorded thing built on the spot. It's just another questionable plothole in the story.
If it was a demon then it checks out.. Cuz it lied...
I don’t know if it was true or not but I heard two reasons why the doll in the movies is the doll we get: Copy Right claims or the maker of the dolls didn’t want bad publicity for their creations
I like that the video challenges the Annabelle narrative based on what we know of demonology, and how the Warren's narrative essentially does not fit with theology.
My girlfriend and I were just talking about movie series we are going to watch. Some of her favorite movies to watch are the conjuring and Annabelle. Right after talking about it I open youtube and what shows up as the second recommended video, this one.
They’re listening
@@TheLoreLodge youtube or Annabelle?
Parchment paper is unwaxed and used for baking fyi. Waxed paper should never be heated and is used for other kitchen tasks. You are, however correct about the term parchment being used for animal skin way back and some magic texts still call for “parchment” and do not mean the stuff you keep next your aluminum foil in the kitchen
I get why they changed the look of the doll but I definitely feel like they could've made that Raggedy Anne Doll utterly terrifying! The Conjuring Doll looks disturbing as it just sits there, however the sheer creepiness of a kids Raggedy Anne Doll just snapping back to OG kids Doll from some crazy disturbing Demonic Monster Doll!?
As for the story based IRL vs Film? It was a brand new doll & picked up a spirit once it entered the apartment block. Well after they (VERY Stupidly) agreed to let the spirit stay! (WHY!?!!) the issues kicked up a notch, they gave it permission to essentially do whatever the F it decided it wanted to do!
The whole exorcist deal, IF Demons are 100% real? Well, yeah I feel like the Catholic Church has it right (For once!) Picking a Priest with more than just a super firm belief in God/Christ is a very smart choice!
my take on the movie doll is that it LOOKS like it's posessed by a demon, so I can only say "why the fuck would you give that to your pregnant wife?" Meanwhile the real Annabel was terrifying not because of the demon but because of the fact it's an unassuming Raggedy Ann. An unassuming raggedy ann would have absolutely made more sense, not just because it's what the true Annabel is, but because it'd be more believable that you'd give your pregnant wife a seemingly harmless doll to give your newborn daughter.
If you ever have time, I highly recommend looking into how the Catholic Church investigates exorcism.
A lot of it starts with getting to know the person’s state of mind and working up to demons. Sometimes things like possession are undiagnosed mental issues, so the priest and Church will recommend the victim get help.
If it’s actual demons, then it’s a long period of prep work and spiritual fortitude. Some exorcisms can last for a long time, so a priest needs to be physically, mentally, and spiritually ready for anything.
The whole casually “waving a rosary, saying prayers, and throwing holy water” is VERY dangerous for all human parties involved. Demons are strong, evil mother f***ers! No one who isn’t trained should mess with them.
@@jendoe9436 I've done a fair bit of reading, well what I can find that doesn't seem straight out of a movie y'know? Just because you write an essay with big words doesn't make it correct lol.
I went down a bit of a rabbit hole personally. I have quite a severe mental health condition, I have seen some shit & for the longest time i was convinced I was being visited by more than just entities my brain created y'know? I won't go into my religious beliefs or at least previous beliefs, that'll be a shitstorm in itself lol. But definitely something I'd be interested in learning more about!
@@pirate_duck4985 oh I for sure agree on finding less ‘glorified’ (shall we say) information about things like demons and exorcisms. Had some friends in high school that weren’t practicing demonic stuff or anything (as far as I know at least), but the way they would talk about demons and evil stuff in general was kinda…. unsettling, I guess is the closest word. They were fine people overall, but quite anti-religious sometimes while I was practicing mine a lot more so that’s probably where I got the feeling from.
There was a time I studied things like exorcism, paranormal, etc and found it fascinating. Overtime, though, I found myself burning out and becoming paranoid as I was looking at those topics from a media perspective, which is designed to over exaggerate and capture attention. I’ve calmed down a lot since and am a lot better about not getting into extremes.
Sorry to hear your troubles, though. It can definitely be hard in this day and age to distinguish the natural, supernatural, and just general unknown. Since I don’t know your story nor do I expect ya to unload on some CZcams stranger, I’ll just say reach out if you can to who you think can help.
If it’s something mental or physical, a professional should be able to assist with that aspect. Our bodies are very complex so if something isn’t going right internally or we have a lot of external stress, then it’s easy for us to get out of whack. Sometimes a new mindset and healthy routine can help us live a lot better.
If you get that part checked out and can recognize lingering side effects, then for sure see if it’s something in your spiritual life or the equivalent of one. That one may be a lot harder to figure out since it’s something we don’t nurture or think about as much in our age of ‘scientific reasoning’ and all that. Without being specific, find good people who you trust and work from there. Find something wholesome that makes you feel connected to loved ones or just doing good for those around you. Positivity is contagious after-all.
For more info on the process of discerning demons, paranormal, and all that, make sure to look into trusted sources. The Catholic Church does have resources about all that, which will have varying degrees of plausibility depending on your knowledge and trust in the subject or provider. I will say that though the Church does have certified exorcist priests, they do value the privacies of everyone involved and often the name of the priest won’t be stated until one gets to the actual possession stage. And from there people are often sworn to secrecy or high discretion. It just keeps people out of attention so they focus on self improvement and not be hounded for details about their traumatic experiences.
But there are exorcists and researchers who have spoken out so they can caution and guide others. A few days ago a CZcamsr under “Capturing Christianity” talked about exorcism with a Catholic priest. There was a book released years ago by a former NYC (?) police sergeant about the stuff he saw and him helping priests with that.
I would say if the source is glorifying the details or prattling on about everything, it may not be too good. I would focus on works that emphasize respect for all parties involved, make a point to explain the steps in determining what’s going on, and provide just enough to explain without going overboard.
I discovered your channel a couple of days ago and I've been hooked, thanks for re-igniting my interest in the paranormal!
Hold up!!! MOMLENNIAL GOT BANNED?!?! HALLELUJAH
As someone who believes in demons I am convinced that mediums always make it worse.
I hang around in Witchcraft circles. I do practice it, but rarely. I do not understand why anyone would ever think summoning or communicating with a demon is a good idea. Best case scenario, you've wasted time and money on a ritual and you're back where you started, which couldn't have been great in the first place if you thought a demon would make things better.
@@dianauwu1312 Jesus Loves you
And Witchcraft is wrong
We do. Any acknowledgement of the entity will generally empower it. Mediums are like diagnosticians. Sure they can tell you something is wrong but you still gotta go to the doctor after. If you think something is wrong go for the cure not someone to tell you what you already know
Funny thing about this is that my grandma made me a set of the guy and girl dolls from raggedy Anne and Andy, it's exactly the Annabelle doll and I have a copy of the doll in my closet as we speak
My gramma also made me a pair, I still have them both lol. Also have an old clown doll from Germany that was given to me in a plastic container (probably the one it originally came in) and it's infinitely creepier lol. First thing I did was accidentally break the seal on the container and there's a bell sitting near it in case he gets lonely and starts wandering lmao
I have always screamed at the thought of a Raggedy Anne doll crawling up his leg 💀
My dad had a set that his Aunt made him in the 40's. Now I have them 😅
I believe in Ghosts, I dont believe in a damn thing Ed and Lorraine Warren have ever said or presented as evidence
My family runs a swimming school and as part of our equipment we have resus dolls, we have the normal ones that you see but we also have a load of the baby versions that are all sat on shelves in our storage room and I HATE being in that room when nobody else is on poolside
Kudos for being skeptical of the Warrens.
Note to self: send mattis porcelain doll painted to look like him
I think Annabelle has some truth to it, but Ed probably exaggerated the story of the doll, but Lorraine seemed like a more honest woman. I wouldn’t poke the bear, just in case it is real (like how many, including myself), will not touch a Ouija board just in case it is real. I think it may be exaggerated, and while I wanna drop kick or see someone drop kick that doll, I wouldn’t because if it is real, then I don’t wanna die to a raggedy Ann doll.
that's the same thing with the whole bloody mary superstition. i wouldn't try to do it, just in case it is real, because I don't wanna be cursed for spinning around my bathroom mirror at midnight
@@affinityxs yeah I completely get that. I've seen enough to know the supernatural is real but I don't know or understand all of it. I believe in ghosts and demons but I wouldn't mess with spirits from other cultures because it's very possible in my mind that we're all dealing with similar beings and that our cultures have just perceived them differently
@@johnnyringo5777 I think this goes either way, whether you believe in the supernatural or not. I personally don't believe it, but it doesn't mean I'll wanna mess with something believed to be supernatural 😂 it's not a good use of my time
I feel like most Warren stories are this way. Like it's very likely exaggerated truth
Lorraine claimed to see/talk to angry native American spirits at Amityville, responsible for some of the hauntings and murders. No tribe experts have any records of a tribe in that area, and shed said that area was used for them to dump their 'crazies' to die from the elements, something _very_ offensive to suggest they did.
So basically she made it all up and further stigmatized native americans. And helped the Lutz' (the people that 'survived the Amityville hauntings') make a ton of money and a mass murderer used it as a possible defense (his laywers since admitted to planning it all with the Lutz's so it's weird that she sensed ghosts and demons in a not-haunted house)
Wait Momlennial is banned finally?? Oh thank god. Im glad you dont have to put up with her anymore Aiden I know it was pretty rough for abit there, with her just non-stop going after you
My sister got one of those raggedy ann dolls from a thrift store around 2003-2005. It creeped her out at night so she would put it in the closet and she would wake up with it sitting up at the end of her bed. We slept with the closet closed in our room and the doors were on hanging tracks so they were very loud and difficult to open. It definitely would wake us up. Also, we would try to sit the doll up the way it was posed when we found it but neither of us could get it to sit up like that and stay there. I have always been a light sleeper, I would wake up just from the sun coming through the window. It was just the two of us and our mom living there and she slept in the next room over. The doors were also really squeaky. My sister got rid of the doll after a few months of having it. Thats not the only weird thing that happened living in that place. I think it was 2005 or 2006 when the really bad one happened that has scared me for life. My mom came in from trying to smoke a cigarette outside but her lighter was empty and would only spark and not make a flame. She put it on the counter and went to mine and my sisters room down the hall to help us clean. The three of us were cleaning for a bit and I went to the kitchen to get something for my mom. The lighter that wouldnt light maybe 20 minutes before had caught itself on fire and was burning a six inch high flame on the linoleum countertop. I called for my mom and she put the fire out (I dont remember exactly how, I was terrified and probably crying). I have tried to figure out a reason it would catch on fire. It was cold, the lighter was on the corner of the counter, oven and other appliances were not on, it was evening so no sun shining through the windows and heating it up, nothing else near it on the counter. If anyone knows what could have caused it I would love to know. Im still scared of leaving lighters unattended. Obviously I have no proof of any of this because I was a kid. Even if I thought to document anything we only had film cameras and my moms flip phone
I've always felt that the Warrens were just ridiculously successful shysters, everything they 'researched' was paranormal, I don't think I ever saw anything they looked into turning out to be nothing at all or a hoax. That is statistically impossible. And they managed to fleece the world for decades. I think as con artists I have to give them applause, but as people they frustrate me at the least, disgust me at the most.
I'm with you on being terrified of porcelain dolls and just too human looking dolls in general. They are just way too uncanny valley for me. My grandmother had a porcelain doll that had real human hair and glass 'follow me' eyes...it was super creepy and I absolutely refused to sleep in the same room as it when we visited. I would have to sleep with my back against a wall with a full view of the door even in a room away from it, just in case. Everyone thought I was being dramatic but the doll really did freak me out! My sister years later thought it would be a hoot to gift me a little porcelain clown doll, a double whammy since clowns also terrify me...that thing went immediately in the trash as I cried and cussed her out lol. Also, Teddy Ruxpin scared me...it just didn't seem right that a teddy bear should move and talk on its own, so when my aunt had one she got for us kids to play with, I secreted it out of the house and buried it on the edge of her property, no one ever found it and as far as I know it's still buried there XD
Yeah, if the doll tries to climb up you, you burn it with fire, immediately. The fact that they just dealt with this for a while makes it unbelivable.
I'm so with you on the doll fear. My gran gave me this antique porcelain doll as a child and my mom wanted me to put it on my bed. Needless to say I threw a fit and my mom stored it away. Man that thing was creepy.
Thank you, Aidan - my fear of dolls is validated 😭
So basically, Aiden is what would be the product of every coffee shop au fan fic couple would have. Nice!
i was always very afraid of raggedy ann dolls as a young kid, and when i learned the real annabelle doll was a raggedy ann it made perfect sense to me haha
Demon: Says it's harmless
LITERALLY EVERYONE: "Yeah that seems legit"
Too bad none of this happens anymore with our ability to document it with cameras and cell phones etc.
I think the movies would be better with the raggedy ann doll
The 24h store clerk selling the shadow demon a single roll of parchment paper and nothing else: O.o
Have you thought of doing a video of the stanley hotel in Denver I think it would be fun to learn about and, maybe some history of the shinning to since it's based on the hotel
The Warrens are full of shit, there are quite a few people who worked with them that said as much and a lot of the stories and fictions they came up with don't make sense, including Annabelle. Now it's mostly harmless, except for the time they tried to get a murderer off after he claimed to be possessed by a demon, which is the plot of the third and worst Conjuring film. The design for the Annabelle doll for the films is really trying to hard, dolls are creepier when they aren't designed to look creepy; the actual Annabelle doll looks far creepier; though obviously a children's toy company isn't going to allow a movie studio to make that toy into a a horror movie villain so they had to do something else.
So fun fact on that last part. In poltergeist (the original not the remake) the clown doll that comes alive and tries to strangle the kid was not a prop made for the movie that was a real consumer toy. Many children at the time had the exact same doll.
According to Catholic Demonology, the only way a demon can come into contact with an object is if it is cursed. That is, someone has to invite a demon over an object, like the opposite of a blessing. Instead of asking God to shed His grace on something, someone invites a demon to taint an object. So, yes, demons cannot possess an object. However, they can be cursed.
Thus, if the stories are to be believed, then the doll has been cursed by a person.
There is another way but it doesn't go with Catholic it's other religions that believe an object associated with tragedy can be cursed. (Mirrors are also generally considered cursed if someone dies in the home) But for example an object used in a "sewerslide" would instantly be considered cursed.
you’re the best, aiden !! luv this vid, and it’s great as always !
You seemed sceptical about the 1 year in hospital. Although I doubt the story behind the alleged crash, I do want to explain about the possibility of spending one year in hospital in the 70's. So my grandparents were in a terrible car accident in the 50's, they were both in Hospital for 6 months (Grandpa) and over 12 months (Grandma) to the point that her young kids both thought that their aunty was their mother for some time.
Now although there is a 20 year difference between 50's and the 70's it was only once key hole surgery was widely used that recovery times reduced significantly. For my grandmother the reason she was in for so long was she needed repeated facial surgery as she went flying through the front window glass and skidded across the ground, alongside the normal bone and organ damage in a car accident. A situation similar to the woman in the story so to me a year is plausible in the 70's.
Raggedy Ann dolls used to be a thing hand made by people. I was a kid in the 1980's and had one made by a family friend. I loved her. She was not creepy at all.
A doll baby I found at a second hand shop was the exact size of a two month old baby. I was in my 20's. I liked her but my Mom and Dad flund her creepy as s#it. I think she was actually a mannequin for like a store cuz she was slightly poseasible and not like a regular toy doll. I still have her in my storage unit she freeks out the neighbors just sitting on top of a box.
Annabelle will be on display at Mohegan Sun Casino I’m Uncasville, CT at the end of October….as well as other items from the museum.
been watching all your stuff all day. new favorite youtuber!
Loremaster: That's not how demonology works.
Goetic Spirits: Hold my beer
A Spirit is different from a Demon. An evil spirit can preside in an object , most often a fetish. You have a soul and a spirit as well as another energetic state that is a process of physicality/time.
I'm not a big believer on haunted dolls, but it would be kinda funny if the whole "possessed" thing and haunted doll was its own kind of haunt. Like it’s nothing we have a name for yet, not a demon, not a ghost, not Folie a deux...
I had a raggedy Ann dress in the early 80s 😱 showing my age!😅
Lol hilarious intro.... like why are there so many anna belle movies for no reason
I have a Raggedy Ann and Andy doll, but I am more scared of my stuffed farmer duck...
Your what now
I have a duck dressed like a farmer that would "sing" Old McDonald by quaking if you touched his hat, but he started quaking by himself, even with the batteries removed once.
In 9th grade I held a presentation on spirit summoning in my philosophy class and my teacher gave me a B on the grounds of presenting my material on the premise that ghosts are in fact real, which was and is my belief. He said that I let too much of my personal beliefs flow into my presentation.
I feel like for this video my former philosophy teacher would give you guys a B for similar reasons.
Oh man Please, Please cover the Fae Folk. Almost no one knows about the Fae.
I love these kinds of topics great video guys
fun fact I've been exorcised multiple times Granted at least one of those was a group exorcism
(waxed paper & parchment paper are slightly different. Butcher's paper should also be considered when thinking about these)
Archie has his priorities lined up
Id like to be familiar . And clearly i need to watch the streams cus drunk Aidan sounds amazing
I find the certitude of of all this amusing. Especially the differentiation between ghosts and demons. Especially as my own experiences with the paranormal (that I never went looking for or even wanted) have convinced me some ghosts are indeed sentient and aware they are dead. I can’t speak about demons (if they actually exist and if they are not just malevolent “ghosts”).
I've never had proper interactions with any. The only time I saw anything is classify as supernatural was when I chased "my sister" up the stairs in our house and she vanished before I got up them. I turned around and went outside where my sister and her husband had just pulled into the drive and we're talking to my mother. I started screaming at my sister demanding to know how she got past me and outside. She hadn't arrived until right before id come outside she wasn't in the house.
I was (and am) the girl who hated dolls. I had a zoo full of stuffed animals and collect model horses. I have a huge collection of model horses, and some of them are 'test pieces' and worth a mint. I don't blame you one damn bit. "Baby dolls" and "American Girl" dolls ARE creepy as hell! Raggedy Ann and Raggedy Andy have been around forever. The are the subjects of a well-known children's book, and I had one. My aunt made me my Raggedy Ann doll (which was nice) but I never played with it and it was not at all the size of "Annabelle'. (and who give one of those to someone on their 28th) I somehow own a lot of stuffed tigers now. They're okay, they can stay. I think the Warrens were snake oil salesmen, they gained entry into your house by Ed doing a sketch of the home, appearing at the front door, introduced themselves, claimed they were drawn (ha) to the house because "your family may be in danger due to demons who want to slip into your home, may we come in? Here, Ed drew a lovely sketch for you." I don't know if they charged for their flim flam performances, but if they did it was a dead give away. No true 'worker' will charge you for a blessing or any ritual they perform. It's certainly true of any "Granny Woman" -- many of whom are often Cherokee. We are everywhere, and carry a great deal of Scottish, Welsh, and Irish DNA as they arrived in the Appalachian area and married many of the Cherokee women. (Cherokee women are the head of the household in every way, she owns the name, the clan affiliation, all material items and the children) They could effect a divorce simply by moving their husband's clothing and personal items and placing them outside, we do NOT charge any money for a home or personal blessing. It is given as a gift to help one in need.
Raggety Anne doll always freaked me out.
Fun Fact: Fear of dolls is called Pediaphobia.
Your description of ghosts - that of fragments of people that died traumatically that mindlessly repeat things from life - is seemingly only true of "residual" hauntings, the ones where things seem almost like short bits of film "recorded" and replaying on occasion. Other ghosts seem to be awake and aware, able to respond to things changing in their environment, even able to communicate with people. This means they might be able to lie, just as living people can lie. Saying that "only demons can lie" is a bit irresponsible. There's so much we don't know about spirits, it's really difficult to be absolutely certain of any of the "rules."
Love that Aiden is kinda sloshed thru this whole thing
04:58 His face when you pause it here says it all. Dude’s smashed! 😂
04:58 pause
finally someone understands!!!!!! i hate dolls with a burning passion they creep me the fuck out and make me very uncomfortable
If the Warrens said the sky was blue (and were still alive) I would go to the window to make sure nothing had changed.
As they lived in one of the more temperate states of the US, Grey Skies may very well greet you
Had a feeling you were a warped tour kid
Just a reminder, Ed Warren claimed a photo of a guy in bell bottom jeans taken at some point between the early 1960's and late 1970's inside a Toys R Us was actually the photo of a ghost from the 1800's. Ed Warren wouldn't know the Paranormal if it came up and kicked him in the gonaids.
I remember I had a large raggedy Ann doll, maybe about the same size as me when I was 5 or 6. I have no idea what happened to her, hope she’s doing well😂
Yeah, I guess if a doll strangled me until I blacked out, I would ALSO want the doll gotten rid of. Destroyed with fire, even!
So you’re saying the Christian superheroes might be lying about some of their feats? Shocking
@Lore Lodge Orthodox Christian Laity have the authority to perform prayers of exorcisms over their property, children and spouses. When an Orthodox Christian priest does an exorcism, it's usually one and done.
Before Covid I spent a few years as a lay Orthodox Christian Prison Minister. I'm a former lay Catholic Apologist, Orthodox 20yrs.
The Orthodox approach is very different than the Catholic approach -- the Orthodox approach works.
And a very good episode in X Files, very creepy
The Warrens? I wonder if they are part of the same tribe as Elizabeth?
The first rule of demonology is that demons always lie.
6:20 Yessir. People misunderstanding the difference between a ghost and a demonic entity, like Miracle Whip and Duke's, the difference matters.
If you really think there is a presence, contact your Clergy.
11:40 Wax paper, yeah go ahead, use it in the oven.
12:50 I guess in that way dogs and demons are similar?
I’ve never been happier to be a Catholic
In mild defense of the movies, the director has said that the main Conjuring series is meant to reflect the Warren's real cases & the offshoots, like Annabelle, are meant to be more fantastical and don't stick to the 'true' stories.
That being said, the Conjuring movies significantly white-wash the Warrens - not just their work investigating the paranormal but as people in general. Ed Warren was not a good person.
I think the reason the doll still had some attachment to it after the "exorcism" might've been because it was a minor rite exorcism.. they often say a full exorcism has to be approved by the church so a minor rite seems more of just a blessing than a full on demon fight.. I'm sure that's what was happening in the museum video as well seeing as anyone can perform a minor rite without jumping thru hoops with the church
I still have my Ann and Andy dolls... should I be worried?
Glass eyed porcelain dolls give me creeps. I think the film makers missed the make. Okay, can't use raggedy Anne, but why make Annabelle ugly. I think if she had been sweeter and more innocent looking makes her scarier.
Well if I'd need a priest for an exorcism I would only take a catholic one... And not only because because I'm catholic. Your description says it all... I'm not too sure about ghosts... But demons... Those definitely I believe in...
Hello! I know this may fall upon deaf ears but I was wondering the I guess legality of making a short film on a 411 case. I know this is the wrong type of video to ask, but I'm a senior in Highschool and for a senior project I wanted make a short film on a 411 case. I thought it would not only bring light to a case but also be very intriguing to me to research and then film it. If anyone could help me out with my question that would be amazing, I was just wondering if there were any difficulties around if its allowed or not? I know it seems stupid but I just wanna make sure.
In terms of investigating? You just cant brand it as Missing 411.
I would also be careful if you're gonna theorize on who did it, because if you accuse people of crimes, there's a risk of being sued for defamation. If it's just a school project, it probably would never be heard by anyone involved (unless you're picking a local case), but I would be careful if you wanna upload it online
The very first doll ever was created to do magic, witchcraft, not a child's toy. We are smart to fear dolls
The idea that a Chatolic priest can actually exorcise a Demon is laughable to me. If anything, they are both in the same side.
I think one of the stumbling blocks here, is the COMPLETE MISUSE of the phrase 'exorcism' versus 'cursed object'...and the truly 'deeper meaning' completely overlooked about Annabelle. She is NOT 'possessed' by a demon, she is an inanimate CURSED OBJECT that is being used BY a Demon...so guess what? An exorcism is NOT going to resolve this situation...and the one who made this 'cursed object' has no idea, or has not disclosed how to 'destroy' the cursed object. So...say an exorcism in the Vatican over Annabelle...it's still cursed (much like Solomon's ring...which god had to take back, due to the corruption of the ring itself). It has been defiled, it is corrupt, it is 'unfixable', and it cannot be purified. It can either be 'locked up' or it can be destroyed (properly)...all else is theater. Now, understand this difference, and you see how the 'misuse of words' is leading to your doubt...and does not diminish the very real threat that it does extend. Oh, and yes, cursed objects, if 'invited', CAN allow the demon to possess the one 'being kind to it'...but even upon exorcism from the person, the demon now has an anchor point, the doll, to return to, to 'wash-rinse-repeat' in the future from. The three original owners, or someone near them, did something VERY BAD with that doll, in its early years...that opened it up to being cursed...and 53 years later, it is VERY DOUBTFUL you'll ever find the 'unmaking' to end it now...
Chuckie: am I a joke to you?
I agree with you on the Ed & Lorraine Warren channel. The new guy desperately needs a light and a mic. His vids are Wish version of season 8 episode 3 of GOT. It’s not spooky - It’s annoying.
He just doesn’t seem like he has any clue how to handle it
My grandma has a raggedy Anne doll that's a prop from an alien movie I believe that was filmed I think in Georgia or Alabama.
You are wise to stay away form dolls. Did you see the AHS Dollhouse episode in 2022?