the movie is good, but I highly recommend the book. Read the uncut edition of the Stand. One of the greatest books I've ever read. It has an extra 150 or so pages that Stephen King scrapped in the original because his editors thought it was too long or racy or something like that.
Yes, I thought he was great. Surface charm, inner horror. I thought the most chilling part was when he and Mother Abagail confronted one another. But this frail old lady stood him down. Ruby Dee was also magnificent.
@PrinceoftheTwilight She was a virgin, saving herself for Flagg, and with every sexual encounter she had over her life (big or small) she got white streaks in her hair until the ultimate which turned it completely white.
No, just because he may see whatever path we choose to take it doesn't mean that we still don't make those choices. Just because he knows what choice we will make doesn't mean we aren't still making that choice on our own...
@TheSoulMan8 By this time, his powers were starting to go (Also indicated in the book). Even Nadine said that his powers had a "short life', which explained why a lot of people had started to leave "in the dead of night", and that he was losing control of the situation (The murder of the Judge didn't go the way he had planned, and he CERTAINLY didn't see the suicides of Dayna and Nadine coming).
@tuggernuts6432 True, though technically, he's not the Devil. Mother Abigail refers to him as "the Imp of Satan," which is fairly accurate, since the Dark Tower saga later reveals him as the Prime Minister and right hand man of the Crimson King (the King universe's version of the Devil).
@littlesongbird1 No prob. If you do read it, try to get the extended version, it's 500 or so pages longer than the one that was originally released and so much better!
Well, but then again, King did write the teleplay for the miniseries. We know how much studio execs love to screw up the creative aspects of a project, why would this have been any different? No, I beleive that King was responsible for some of it, but then the studio also did things to detract from how good this could have been. ZombieCobain, he is more liberal than this adaptation of his work clearly. His daughter is actually a lesbian unitarian minister in FL-very liberal in his personal life
Good question. The "force of good" or "god" is the easy answer. But, It has been poised that 'he' is speaking to himself, watching himself fail from beyond our realm/time. Our realm/universe /page is just one of 'Flaggs' stomping grounds, and the body he inhabits is just an avatar, a fraction of his timeless evil. So Flagg is watching himself fail and knows it's time to leave, but decides to see the game through. It is also thought that Flagg may have tried and failed to reign in this timeline MANY times, that this is another repetition of his failure, but he refuses to quit even though he knows the outcome as his power in our realm fades.
It's hot it's tortuous the damned souls are annoying always crying in sorrow and rage it stinks and the other demons are always playing power games to show Satan who is more loyal, earth is way better then hell and possessing people is way better then wandering hell
@@sayhan3631actually, she was free from Flagg (or so it seemed) when she was in Boulder. She wanted Larry to bone her so Flagg wouldn't want her anymore. Larry refused I guess because he was still pissed at her leaving him in New York.
'Eh, it was her decision to die anyway Mach. She DID decide for once in the movie what she wanted to do and executed in both the movie and the book. She knew what would happen, but she did it anyway choosing her own fate.
@tuggernuts6432 No. It's because Tom is "special". Dayna knew (before her suicide) that this was the reason. And that was why she killed herself because Flagg would have tortured her to find out the truth.
@StaticGirl22 She was pretty much pushing him to do it. She knew that the only way she could be "set free" was by goading Flagg into doing it. He finally had enough, grabbed her and threw her over the balcony. He realized a fraction of a second too late what he did, and tried to grab her, but it was WAY too late.
@MrCedarPawn Well that's the point. Flagg is supposed to be smooth and charming, and seem like a beer buddy, and someone an innocent girl would dream about. But then you see who he really is...
I don't know if Stephen King would have approved of all the conservative undertones of this book. Granted King comes across as an unapologetic theist in his works, and the Stand is no exception, sickeningly sprinkled with christian overtones, I believe he is more liberal than this movie.
Actually, Tom and his moon face is better than Lloyd "the token Stephen King self-sacrificing bad guy," but I hadn't enjoyed Ferrer so much since 'Another Stakeout.' Check out COACH and OZ for other fine work from Bill Fagerbakke.
Oh contrar my dear but it does say we are all born with free will, however no matter what path we choose God still knows the outcome of each and every one no matter if it's something bad or not.
@@rastiga9196 but she started freaking out before she even had sex with him.. if you remember by the campfire scene?? And my god how fast did this baby grow last I saw she had just conceived it...
Pete McKenna well he isn't satan ....1... And if he were I don't think satan would be dumb enough to walk around humans looking like satan....2....and this is hiw stephen king personally described his ORIGINAL character...as a romance novel type that gets the girls wet. Thats not the exact quote on his description but pretty much that. 3
Flagg is utilizing the grassroots movement. In one instance he is rubbing elbows with the elites. Infinitely telling them that their power is solidified. Followed by working up the downtrodden constantly relying the message that they have been abused and cheated. Flagg can work a room and a photo opportunity.
@tvdude PRICELESS comment lol Also at Randall Flag talk about a personality switch lol.Mind you I bet the devil himself couldn't beat me in a round of shots eh? *thinks again
Oh I have read the bible, and the story about the the giants being born preflood and all that is true, but it doesnt say that we cannot deny satan. If your bible says that, then i don't know where you got it
@ZombieCobain Why are christian overtones "sickening"? Lot's of fictional works have Christian overtones. People didn't seem to mind when The Matrix and Deathly Hallows did it.
@Patrick Wells To be fair,The Matrix Trilogy also referenced Buddhism,Gnosticism,Hinduism and Taoism and the Harry Potter Films also referenced Traditional Celtic religion which are all seen as "exotic" in The West.
What Humanity Won't Except Satan Runs All Roman Catholic Church s He's lol wright now as we all are poor Santan there asking Questions About Angela and all the state s she worked out of New York is Amazing there still following her
The flagg character is great.if i was a devil -guy id try to be like him sorta. He has fun with it..and i guess if your one of them thats all ya got . Might as well be the very best evil ya can be right ?
Jamey Sheridan playing Randall Flagg can make you laugh and scream at the same time.
How's that drink, Lloyd?
It's great! It's all over the wall.
LOL XD 😆
I don't know when he gets mad it looks funny, and crazy at the same time. Like what the heck calm down dude.
the movie is good, but I highly recommend the book. Read the uncut edition of the Stand. One of the greatest books I've ever read. It has an extra 150 or so pages that Stephen King scrapped in the original because his editors thought it was too long or racy or something like that.
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+1 I can honestly say this is a book I picked up and did not put down till I read all the way through.
how he jumps ove rthe bar is too funny to be scary, love flagg
this version of nadine was far better then the newer one but in the book nadine has far more depth
I like this movie. Very well-casted.
Flagg didn't know they were coming until Nadine told him in the book
5:47 nadine is calmly and nonchalantely walking out the window to jump off the balcony. lol
Jamey is an excellent actor here. He portrays an evil person well.
Yes, I thought he was great. Surface charm, inner horror. I thought the most chilling part was when he and Mother Abagail confronted one another. But this frail old lady stood him down. Ruby Dee was also magnificent.
@@janesgems7 All the actors/actresses played their parts well in this series.
@PrinceoftheTwilight She was a virgin, saving herself for Flagg, and with every sexual encounter she had over her life (big or small) she got white streaks in her hair until the ultimate which turned it completely white.
I really need to read the book.
Jeez, where's Buffy when you need her to take a demon's ass down?
Maybe she caught the Flu. Ha ha ha!
Buffy's cool and all, but she wouldn't stand a chance against Randall Flagg.
This actor is great
Much better than the guy in the 2020 monstrosity
I love his outbursts when he loses his temper, then that “shit eating grin” comes right back. Flagg’s such a great King villain.
No, just because he may see whatever path we choose to take it doesn't mean that we still don't make those choices. Just because he knows what choice we will make doesn't mean we aren't still making that choice on our own...
Someone needs a Snickers!
@TheSoulMan8 By this time, his powers were starting to go (Also indicated in the book). Even Nadine said that his powers had a "short life', which explained why a lot of people had started to leave "in the dead of night", and that he was losing control of the situation (The murder of the Judge didn't go the way he had planned, and he CERTAINLY didn't see the suicides of Dayna and Nadine coming).
Proves Flagg's lack of omnipotence & omnipresence in spite of earlier apparent proof of both.
@tuggernuts6432 True, though technically, he's not the Devil. Mother Abigail refers to him as "the Imp of Satan," which is fairly accurate, since the Dark Tower saga later reveals him as the Prime Minister and right hand man of the Crimson King (the King universe's version of the Devil).
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that clears a bit up , because Jamie Sheridan did not sell me as Satan .
His character sucked ass
he's basically azazel, and sauron
I felt bad for Nadine
8:16 You think a guy who can fucking teleport through flame or shift into a bird would i don't know CATCH THE BITCH!
I think he didn't expect that she would really do it!
HAAHHAAA!! "I hate this VASE!!!"
"I'm wearing double denim...and I know that's wrong." -Jeremy Clarkson
"Care to gargle a little firewater Lloyd?"
Anyone else noticed how long flaggs fingers became when the drinks were boiling 😂
If you all read the Dark Tower Series by Stephen King alot of Flagg is explained but in the book his mane is Martin....
I guess she really did loved Larry.
In the book, he breaks both of her shoulders and murders her in a fit of rage. Though, he DOES regret doing it, afterwards.
How did Nadine get the cut on her face?
Jamey should cost SNL.
You never know when Flagg will fly off the handle.
dingecibbs
Randall “Fly off the Handle” Flagg
@littlesongbird1 No prob. If you do read it, try to get the extended version, it's 500 or so pages longer than the one that was originally released and so much better!
Well, but then again, King did write the teleplay for the miniseries. We know how much studio execs love to screw up the creative aspects of a project, why would this have been any different? No, I beleive that King was responsible for some of it, but then the studio also did things to detract from how good this could have been. ZombieCobain, he is more liberal than this adaptation of his work clearly. His daughter is actually a lesbian unitarian minister in FL-very liberal in his personal life
Agreed, in the book, she takes her choices back
Poor Nadine never stopped loved larry with her dying breath
Damed bitch didnt have the inner strength stay with him until it was too late
I know. She probably always regretted leaving him.
who is Flagg talking too when he says "Im staying right here, do you hear me"?
Good question.
The "force of good" or "god" is the easy answer.
But, It has been poised that 'he' is speaking to himself, watching himself fail from beyond our realm/time.
Our realm/universe /page is just one of 'Flaggs' stomping grounds, and the body he inhabits is just an avatar, a fraction of his timeless evil.
So Flagg is watching himself fail and knows it's time to leave, but decides to see the game through.
It is also thought that Flagg may have tried and failed to reign in this timeline MANY times, that this is another repetition of his failure, but he refuses to quit even though he knows the outcome as his power in our realm fades.
I like Flagg's pins:D especially the smily head:D
This I never could quite understand, why is it that every demon, no matter what the rank, is afraid of going back to hell?
because they knew & experience what hell is like.
Because they failed satan they are stripped of rank and sent to the lowest part of hell.
I always thought he was talking to the Crimision king about not wanting to go back.
Afraid of failure.
It's hot it's tortuous the damned souls are annoying always crying in sorrow and rage it stinks and the other demons are always playing power games to show Satan who is more loyal, earth is way better then hell and possessing people is way better then wandering hell
"like a kid throwing a tantrum"
Everbody betray me, I'm fed up with this world!
Like Judas who hanged himself, she committed by jumping off a tall building.
I guess Nadine really loved Larry after all! She had regrets over listening to Randall Flagg.
Grail Knight: "You have chosen...poorly."
Yeah, but it is partly due to Flagg controlling her, so uh she didn't had much of a choice.
@@sayhan3631actually, she was free from Flagg (or so it seemed) when she was in Boulder. She wanted Larry to bone her so Flagg wouldn't want her anymore. Larry refused I guess because he was still pissed at her leaving him in New York.
'Eh, it was her decision to die anyway Mach. She DID decide for once in the movie what she wanted to do and executed in both the movie and the book. She knew what would happen, but she did it anyway choosing her own fate.
I hate that they keep having his face change, in the book he was hinted to be more than human, but he always looked human.
She jumped, hedidn't push her.
0:56 nadine jumps lyke a friggin cat whn flagg gets near her lol
poor vase. "I hate this thing!" aggggg!
@machunski great insight
I think for sure i saw the crimson king button on his jacket
@MrCedarPawn Int he novel and as Abigail said, it's not Satan but the Devil's Imp.
haha, saw it just now, that was awesome.
@tuggernuts6432 No. It's because Tom is "special". Dayna knew (before her suicide) that this was the reason. And that was why she killed herself because Flagg would have tortured her to find out the truth.
I couldn't remember his face transforming like that in the book or did I miss something?
I thought so, thank you it was driving me nuts!
Makes sense, even as deranged as his followers were I doubt they'd follow a guy who turned into the freaking Devil.
@StaticGirl22 She was pretty much pushing him to do it. She knew that the only way she could be "set free" was by goading Flagg into doing it. He finally had enough, grabbed her and threw her over the balcony. He realized a fraction of a second too late what he did, and tried to grab her, but it was WAY too late.
I don't see me with no woman tied up or looking for one I have plenty
@iloveyourstory She was pretty much damned from the start.
@Rolff112 Forgive me. I have not read it yet. I have to get it from the library.
@littlesongbird1 If you do get the uncut version, it's amazing!
@littlesongbird1 It's in the book
@MrCedarPawn Well that's the point. Flagg is supposed to be smooth and charming, and seem like a beer buddy, and someone an innocent girl would dream about. But then you see who he really is...
I don't know if Stephen King would have approved of all the conservative undertones of this book. Granted King comes across as an unapologetic theist in his works, and the Stand is no exception, sickeningly sprinkled with christian overtones, I believe he is more liberal than this movie.
@campbpar I think it was tick!
Actually, Tom and his moon face is better than Lloyd "the token Stephen King self-sacrificing bad guy," but I hadn't enjoyed Ferrer so much since 'Another Stakeout.' Check out COACH and OZ for other fine work from Bill Fagerbakke.
Oh contrar my dear but it does say we are all born with free will, however no matter what path we choose God still knows the outcome of each and every one no matter if it's something bad or not.
Why did Nadine's hair turn white??.
Because when she first had sex with him his seed was cold and by the pain in her stomach she realized too late that she fu**ed up!
@@rastiga9196 but she started freaking out before she even had sex with him.. if you remember by the campfire scene?? And my god how fast did this baby grow last I saw she had just conceived it...
@@rastiga9196 czcams.com/video/0e64sPHWnsY/video.html
boy, those jeans sure are tight - was this made in the seventies or eighties by any chance? hehe ;-}
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Wtf Randall was supposed to throw Nadine off the balcony...
Flagg is so cute when he's angry!
3:00
I never really pictured Satan with tight jeans and a mullet... It kind of kills the scary.
Pete McKenna well he isn't satan ....1... And if he were I don't think satan would be dumb enough to walk around humans looking like satan....2....and this is hiw stephen king personally described his ORIGINAL character...as a romance novel type that gets the girls wet. Thats not the exact quote on his description but pretty much that. 3
Flagg is utilizing the grassroots movement. In one instance he is rubbing elbows with the elites. Infinitely telling them that their power is solidified. Followed by working up the downtrodden constantly relying the message that they have been abused and cheated. Flagg can work a room and a photo opportunity.
@Rolff112 Is that true or just like your interpretation. Interesting.
Damn looks like someone got noob tubed
in the book, Flagg threw Nadine off the balcony
Summer Boone She tricked him into doing it didn't she?
He didnt throw her, she jumped.
Probably changed for tv edit
@tuggernuts6432 Very true. He does have many of the Devil's characteristics.
@tvdude PRICELESS comment lol
Also at Randall Flag talk about a personality switch lol.Mind you I bet the devil himself couldn't beat me in a round of shots eh? *thinks again
Oh I have read the bible, and the story about the the giants being born preflood and all that is true, but it doesnt say that we cannot deny satan. If your bible says that, then i don't know where you got it
flagg has got the roids nd theyre a raging
@ZombieCobain Why are christian overtones "sickening"? Lot's of fictional works have Christian overtones. People didn't seem to mind when The Matrix and Deathly Hallows did it.
@Patrick Wells To be fair,The Matrix Trilogy also referenced Buddhism,Gnosticism,Hinduism and Taoism and the Harry Potter Films also referenced Traditional Celtic religion which are all seen as "exotic" in The West.
The movie is good, the book is way better
RAHHH Topiaries and Marbles FLAGG SMASH
How is it going Yahweh ?
Not too good I see 🤣🤣🤣🤣😈
please do not speak of what you do not know, no where in the bible does it say that, we all have free will and any woman can chose to deny.
someone needs a nap
@PeopleAllergy But there's no one left to teach the courses...the flu killed them all.
@campbpar Tick, sweetie. Tick. LOL!
@campbpar like a TICK... but still LOL
What Humanity Won't Except Satan Runs All Roman Catholic Church s He's lol wright now as we all are poor Santan there asking Questions About Angela and all the state s she worked out of New York is Amazing there still following her
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another Flagg tantrum. LMAO
@tvdude4454 OH NO YOU DIDN'T! LOL!
8:20 FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!
@campbpar haahahah
>>"I could pop your neck like a TICK." ...Still kind of a dumb thing to say.
lol
In general this mini series had good actors. But yet the acting was terrible.
The flagg character is great.if i was a devil -guy id try to be like him sorta. He has fun with it..and i guess if your one of them thats all ya got . Might as well be the very best evil ya can be right ?