20240710 3rd Alarm w/TTF Girardville Butler Township, Pa Full
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Around 1330hrs Girardville Fire Department was alerted to a house fire in butler township.
Chief 45 responded and arrived in minutes to a house fully involved with heavy fire showing and immediately requested a second alarm.
Crews battled the intense heat of the fire along with temperatures that were close to 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
No injuries were reported and all occupants were reported to have been able to safely exit the structure before fire department arrived on scene.
Tankers were also called due to the remote location of the blaze.
Additional information
95 F with 78% humidity
Energized power line on the ground
Owner evacuated the home and it was mostly involved when she called the fire in.
Video starts over 20 minutes into this incident
Limited space for apparatus the roadway you see is a dead end
2nd Alarm was for a TTF (Tanker Task Force)
3rd Alarm was for additional Tankers
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Glad that there were no injuries to anyone related to this incident and that everyone was able to get out in time.
Summer time fires and high heat, make for a hard fire to fight.
Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
When the request for second alarm was put in that house was a total loss at that point.
Its standard to get more equipment. Do u know what alarms mean. Its not the fire. Its the manpower and equipment needed. So they had no hydrants. They had to shuttle water to the pools they set up. So they did a second or 3rd alarm mostly for water trucks
Without the information that I.C. had at the time, the structure was so fully involved that there was nothing to save. Rather than use the limited resources of a rural fire dept., (lack of unlimited water supply), I.C. apparently chose to use his resources to extinguish the remains. This may seem terrible to laymen, but nothing could have been saved. These are my thoughts, not being anywhere near the situation.
If a fire is this far gone and there's no exposures, let it go. Fire departments waste so many resources on things like this and there is zero way to change the outcome. There's Only risk to the responders. Especially in super hot, humid weather like this. yes it stinks for the homeowner, but as one of my instructors said many, many years ago; we didn't start the fire. I was always a very aggressive FF when I was young but eventually I saw that no matter how hard we worked, sometimes (many times) the place just got torn down anyway. Risk vs. Reward. The idea we need to do "something" needs to change.
well said
There is a charged 5 inch supply line but no water flowing on the fire. I don't get it
@@jamessimmonds3773 you also don't see what is going on behind the house. When the house is beyond saving there are other priorities to address.
I’m just here for the arm chair firefighters! Seriously though, fully involved not much there to save other than framing. Put it out and go home. For those of you that are complaining about what went on here remember this, most if not all of you weren’t there(including myself) so you don’t know the whole story. And for those of you that are “experts”, I’d love to have you ride with me on my rig and do what we do. I bet you change your attitude! For those of you that do fire, be safe!
@@______-id5ud those armchair firefighters need to ride along with real volunteers.i bet they ain't never suited and booted
These are very good "FIRE" men.
no shortage of photographers to showcase how pathetic this was.
This looks just like a control demolition fire!
I heard Chief advise of utility lines down, never heard any request to Dispatch to get Power Company enroute
Each apparatus has water except Truck! This is a poor excuse of firefighting. Pretty apparatus but learn it uses
Oh, how I need to chime in on this call. What was the problem in getting water on this fire? There was a hydrant at E Mah & 5th and you had ample tanker support. This is why pre-planning is so important.
"working" generally means somebody works.
If there was no one to rescue and their wasn't an exposure problem why bust your butt and risk injury? Either this was a delayed notification or a long daytime response. Either way the battle was over before arrival.
I'm assuming this is a no water situation? Otherwise I can't understand why I'm seeing what I'm seeing.
I cant believe it took them so long to flow water that could have stared a brush fire probably all volunteers but that could have been a out of control brush fire
The 1st due truck might carry 1000 gals of water, if the fire is going well it doesn't take long to empty your tank less than 90 seconds using a deck gun, and maybe 5-8 mins if using a cross lay.
You have to understand in the country It takes time to set up a water source using the pools. We use the 1st due tanker as our pool so when the other tankers arrive they pump their water into the tanker keeping no less than 3000 gals of water at all times. Using a water thief we can connect two supply tankers at a time (6,000gals of water) once we have a tanker task force rolling.
When our town is called out for a structure fire, 4 surrounding towns fire dept. are called for their tankers 12K gal of water at the same time with support engines for water supply set up .
They had a limited supply of water the truck and engine were being supplied by the 2 water containers that were being filled by the other engines and tankers no fire hydrants in that area
My favorite part is when they shut down the ram after 60 seconds of use!
Over 8 minutes in this video to put water on the fire. This was most likely 25 minutes since the call went out which is well below standards of a fire department. The citizens should demand change or replace the entire fire department with staff who can do the job efficiently
OMG! Im glad i don't live in Schuylkill county. I'd be embarrassed of those so called firemen
There are tons of fires here, too. Old row home housing in the towns, squatters, and drug use. The firemen do what they can they are mostly volunteers and most have full-time jobs. Especially in the winter, it can get downright scary here.
i am not american or russian but I watched some russian rural fire incidents , but the russian firfighters reponse is way deferent and quicker , they always start with the water they have in their fire trucks befor figuring out later another source of water ..maybe they have deferent approach on what is the priorites in handling the fire but in most videos i watched the russians seems more effecient .
I think the people filming this find it interesting that they would rather see the house burn to the ground for lack of water rather than getting there and fighting it quickly to save the property
Maybe if u watch the whole video u would known there were no fire hydrants. So they had to set up pools to bring water in truckload after truckload. If they put water on without those set up and getting supplied that water that is in the fire truck wont last 5 min then be emoty.
@@railroadenthusiast6246If they would care about their community and not the number of subscribers or followers there might actually be more volunteers to help when this situation comes up
First water took 8:48 into the video & no add’l apparatus was seen arriving - why not use tank water to supply the Blitz Fire? An occupied house doesn’t sound like a controlled burn but that’s what it looks like. I wasn’t there & don’t know what the IC’s plan was but some family has lost everything in that house & the FD did nothing except watch it burn & that’s a terrible ROI on your taxes in a State referred to as Taxylvania.
The hosue was 100% involved when the first officer pulled up. There are pictures floating around on this. There was nothing to save from the start. If you live in a rural area with no water supplies and slow response times. Maybe getting a fire alarm system that notifies you as soon as there is smoke to give you a chance. This was noticed by a neighbor or passerby well into being well involved.
@@chazman4461 or better yet, get a sprinkler system.
It’s not a real fire it’s just AI
I did see that utility company did arrive
All dresses up and nowhere to go.
why a 3rd alarm when there was no attempt to put it out by the first arriving trucks?
Probably because the time of day and heat. There were units that failed to get out and get out with full staffing and it was almost 100 degrees. So you need to replace who did not show up or showed up understaffed and rotate people dragging around hose and master streams. You can see them putting it out in the video. A fire that size is not going to be affected by 3 units with 750 gallon water tanks.
Luke, use the force to fill those tanks!!
Someone tell the chief to get out of the road so the tankers can pull up next to the ponds
Not sure what they are waiting for, someone to say, 1, 2 , 3, go?
So what would you have done differently? Rural location. House fully engulfed on arrival. No hydrants/limited water supply. Narrow road with an energized power line laying across the road. No exposure concerns other than trees. Please enlighten us.
They sure did Save Water on this House Fire....
Why drop tones for a Second Alarm ? There is Enough Firefighters standing around doing Nothing..... Literally NOTHING... (1 Volunteer FF) sprayed water for 2 minutes and then shut the line down....
Control burn. Owner pays $2000 for a burn permit and let it go to the ground. Less clean up.
Good save of the cellar hole.
Skook, where they never leave room for the truck company!
darn tones are so long when it finish the house would be on the ground
Ok.. who got the marshmallows??
looks like a bunch of new hires looking for fish in a pool 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The red stuff goes away if you put the wet stuff on it guy's
What a sad excuse for a fire department
Why? The place was 100% involved when they pulled up.
Unless you were there you have no right to criticize. Ever think that the first in units were attempting to control a brush fire started by this house fire? This was also a weekday. They were lucky if there were more than 2 or 3 firefighters per truck
What a sad excuse of a comment. This was a single dwelling no other structures on either side in Danger. It was fully involved so u let it burn itself down cuz ur otherwise wasting water. U contain it if it starts to spread to woods. This is actually firefighting 101.
Controlled burn. Monthly fire drills.
Anthonymirande4030 instead of making comments why don’t you join your local fire company if you know so much before any trucks were on scene the fire was blowing out every window and door not much they can do with fire blowing out every window and door
The OIC is supposed to be top notch in that area .........hmmmmm
Hey probie, I need the water hammer and drop tank keys off the engine!!
Thank God the fire department decided to put water on the house after it was on the ground. FAILURE!!!!!!!!