Triton Router Unboxing and Review | Triton JOF001 Compact Plunge Router
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- I bought a Triton JOF001 Compact Plunge Router recently and was very much looking forward to being able to use it for lots of woodworking jobs.
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Thanks for this.
I have learned a lot more from this mistake than watching 30 tutorials and manuals.
I bought this machine today and I am not experienced in this machines.
I just want you to know I hit subscribe at 11 seconds in - you are my kind of bloke!
Cheers!
Right said Fred, climbin' up a ladder. We were getting nowhere so we had another cuppa tea.
LOL - love that song!
Richard Branson does woodworking
Ppl generally think KFC Colonel Sanders
"If all else fails READ THE INSTRUCTIONS"
To lock the collet work with the router upside down, push the baseplate fully down when the auto lock should engage PROVIDED the Routed is switched off AT THE ROUTER and the switch cover is across the switch rocker. This is double safety in case you forget to pull the plug.
I have two Triton Routers. My big one, TRA00, is a bit old and doesn't have the fine control more's the pity.
Nigel Wakefield
Thanks for the unboxing and honest review - I'm off to Screwfix tomorrow to get me one!
I had the same thing with a Dremel. You have to press the spindle brake while you tighten the chuck/ collet thingy.
The spindle is supposed to lock automatically when you change bits - sometimes it does, but not always.
@@PlanetKeef the reason it doesn't is that you still have the router switch set to on. That prevents the spindle from locking - deliberately.
You'll also find it easier to set the router upside down on the bench to insert bits ets. thats why it has a flat top, its designed to sit that way up. just like it shows in all those photographs you dismissed...
Respect to you Keith, you have certainly got more patients than me, lol
Cheers Joe!
He ain't a doctor so he can't have more patients than you. Try again.
'nuf sed.
Well done Planet Keef.
The instructions supplied with this Triton router and with its bigger playmate the TRA001 are truly abysmal. I bought both.
Like you, I am a keen woodworking novice and have no one to show me how to use this kit so have to rely on clear instructions. The Triton instructions consist of out of focus and blurry unclear tiny grey pictures of something hard to make out! It reminded me of old black and white newspaper pictures.
The Triton instruction document is very disappointing and surely Triton should improve this weak spot in their marketing. I picked up one or two hints from another CZcams video showing these routers.
Also just like you, I bought the big router from Screwfix (excellent company) and stared last week to find out how to set it up. The instructions were horribly unclear so I broke the winder handle in error on the TRA001! Great! But Screwfix replaced that one within 2 days . Hence my praise for them.
I’m still poking around CZcams to find a video showing exactly the depth of cut setting using the small turretstops.
Triton would do well to consider these complaints because their products look good and robust, but the serious shortcomings like their forgetting to mark the Collett with their size, leaving sharp burrs on the spanner, supplying blurry hard to understand instructions, well it doesn’t help. There are other makers you know, and they give better documents for a start. In addition to that, it’s not clear to me why Triton need to supply the imperial size collett, as we generally work to the metric and SI system, inches and feet are a thing of the distant past in the U.K.
Triton please take note from the keen novice woodworkers of the U.K. and many thanks Keef for pointing out some of the problems with getting started with a Triton router.
As far as the collet is concerned,never tighten without a router bit in it or you will crush it !
Yes, I know this now. But all of us at some time have been the know-nothing idiot rushing to get on with the new toy. RTFM, yes I did, and was not told not to do what I did.
@@PlanetKeef not an idiot just one of a learning curves of life ,I sent this router back as it wouldn't re- plunge from a mortice cut ,it turned out the trunnion was fitted incorrectly from the manufacturer ,lost faith in it Now .I managed to get my hands on a 26 year old Elu mof in pristine condition from an old gentleman who simply put it away and never used it.
I had to practice a lot on spare wood but use a fence so you don't wiggle your lines when using it on a project. Good luck 🤞
I expect I'll figure it out eventually!
That thumb wheel is not a direct height adjustment.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Zeroing the router
1a. What you'll want to do is fit the bit first, then plunge the router bit against the table and lock it down.
1b. In that position, turn the little thumb wheel so that it points to the 0 - zero - mark on the scale.
1c. With the scale zeroed, push the spring loaded bar down on top of the depth-stop and lock the bar into position.
The router is now zeroed - meaning that with the bit resting at table the scale and depth stop is now set to zero.
2. Setting the cut depth
2a. Release plunge lock and raise the router.
2b. Now turn the little thumb wheel and set it to your desired depth (for example 10mm)
The plunge depth is now set.
When you now plunge the router down the spring loaded depth bar (which is still locked in place) will again
hit the top of the thumb wheel depth stop. But because the thumb wheel is now 10mm lower, the plunge will also go 10 mm lower.
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I hope that helps. This principle is more or less the same for all routers with a depth stop.
As you understand this principle other more creative ways of using the depth stop will become apparent.
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As for fine adjustment - from looking at the manual it seems that that this router does indeed have a fine
adjustment knob at the top, but that'll only work if the router plunge is not locked.
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On a sidenote:
That plug is so massive because its actually an EU plug with an adapter on it.
Just loosen that one screw on the plug and you can convert it to a standard EU plug.
Great info, thanks! However, the real problem I have with this is the stiffness of the plunge mechanism. I'm in the middle of building a table for this router, so the height adjustment will be done only from the top using the supplied handle. I got another router, from Aldi, and it's much easier to use.
Yeah, welcome to the world of plunge routers. Stiff and sticky plunge mechanism is an all to common problem among many brand of routers.
However, when mounting in a table, what most woodworkers do is to remove the spring altogether.
With the router upside down, you don't need the spring anymore as gravity alone is more than enough for adjustment.
The Triton set of router are heavy routers more suited at being mounted in a table. That's why they supply that adjustment handle, so you can set an accurate depth from above the table. (Many find the Triton routers too big and unstable for freehand work).
Mounted in a table is where the Triton router really shine.
Now - on to how to remove the spring. Unfortunately this smaller model JOF001 has not been designed for that, so it'll probably involve a fairly extensive disassembly.
I have the biggest of the Triton's myself (TRA001), and this model has a built in quick removal system for the spring.
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I have two routers myself. The Triton mounted in a table and a smaller Makita 1/4" palm router which I use for all my freehand work.
For that fine freehand work the big heavy Triton is just to cumbersome.
I used to have a cheaper one like the aldi - and that lasted me 15 years before it finally broke down. It was a gem.
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Keep at it, keep experimenting and keep buying tools until you find one that suits you.
It's not always the biggest and most expensive that's the best.
I've just recieved mine & mine also is very tough to push down, a little bit of grease sorted that though, which Triton definitely should have done at the factory (doesn't cost anything but massively improves precision). The instructions are terrible. To set the plunge depth, the spring loaded part you were pushing back up locks in place by the twisty knob at the back & that pushes against the spinning adjusting below it
I think you should make yourself an orange and white boiler suit Keef, thumbs up :)
Yeah, outta cake. :-)
By the way, I could see how having that router could be addicting... gives your wood some beautiful edges!
And much more besides - if it can figure it out...
, hello Dave have you got that to people KeefCooks please stop 🛑
@@PlanetKeef router stopped working in KeefCooks with a couple 👫 Bob said know how annoying it is to get the phone back 🔙 it's
Guess you didn't bother explaining to either Triton or Screwfix that you'd fucked the collet up by tightening the nut without a bit in place? I think I know what the response might have been if you had. I've just seen you review an Aldi router and conclude it's better than the Triton, maybe you should not review tools in public if you don't know what you are on about.
@Stu 101 LOL, I explained EXACTLY what I'd done - neither Triton nor Screwfix showed any concern. I think I absolutely should review things that are new to me - this is a learning experience. At some point, anyone buying a tool will be doing so for the first time, and that's when they might make a mistake that experienced users wouldn't. Manufacturers need to pay attention to these mistakes and make users aware of them. I didn't see any advice from Triton telling me not to tighten the nut without a bit in it. None at all. Agreed, the Aldi router has a better plunge mechanism. The Triton now lives upside down in a router table and works fine.
@@PlanetKeef, If nothing else, Screwfix product return policy comes out of this well. Triton need to sharpen up their technical help by the sound of it.
The negative awareness thinking is the top of a slippery slope, to my mind: if you extrapolate that sort of thinking you're getting into Darwin Awards territory .
A) "Why did that guy go & jump off the bridge?"
B) "Well there are no signs saying not to!"
Cheers
Stu
Weeell, no. We're all familiar with gravity and the way it'll pull you down into a ravine. But it's completely non-intuitive that if you tighten a collet without a bit in it you're likely to break it. Hell, until I got this router I didn't know what a collet was!
Here's a tip a friend gave me about reading tiny instructions (don't know how I didn't think of it myself). He said to just pop the instructions into my scanner, scan at a high d.p.i., and read them off the computer. Brilliant! Much easier to read blown up like that, hehe!
Yeah, but it would prefer a manual that is didn't have to build myself!
Very good. I did the same thing to enlarge and print at A4 size. The blurry grey pictures came out bigger and still unclear. So (clearly! ) the instructions need to be rewritten with pen + ink line drawings to make the router use abundantly CLEAR.
These can be very dangerous. You can get a set of lettering templates and make signs. Chineese bits work well in them.
Good video. I have the bigger version of this mounted in a table, and this one too which I was intending to use for freehand work where I need a 1/2" collet. Yes, the plunge! It's horrendous! Sooooo notchy and resistant. You've to put all your power through it and it still doesn't move, except, when it suddenly does and you smack into your work. Also terrible the other way. It won't come back out half the time. Absolutely infuriating. I've already changed this router twice, but not because of the plunge, because of the ungodly noise it makes that sounds as if the bearings are made of gravel! I've used many routers and never come across one that sounds as bad as this JOF001. The last exchange I got they kindly got another out of the box for me in Screwfix. Sounded the exact same. Horrible in use, the whine cuts right through your ear defenders. However, I have persevered with it, thinking that the whine would subside and the plunge would get easier. Neither of these have happened and it's going back. Agree on the spanner too. Cheap piece of stamped junk that cuts into your hand.
Shocking quality. Really didn't expect anything this bad from this brand. 😡
czcams.com/video/TfBx9AfdqBc/video.html
Yep, only good for mounting under a table - works fine that way!
Que tal sale ese router en realidad vale la pena comprarlo y como cuanto seria en Mexico saludos
Well well, I broke mine. And after that it suddenly growled at me. I became so scared, so I putted away from my eyesight
Hey, Keef, I just watched a vid that I think will help with some of your frustrations. The bloke sounds really helpful so you might want to have a chat with him. His review was of the Triton, but I think it was the step up from yours. All the best!
czcams.com/video/NzXIgz6FH4s/video.html
Thanks for the link John - I left a comment on it and now I have a new subscriber!
Black & Decker all the way.
I don't seem to see much Black n Decker around these days...
PlanetKeef you should move to NZ plenty here
What a boring video I must confess!
Just wanna comment on the "damaged" sleeve. IMO, no sleeve can be damaged! I once unknowingly slotted a 6mm Shank into a 6.35 mm sleeve, tightened the chuck till the end, no grip, which was as good as tightening without a sunk shank! Got the shank out, increased the thickness using masking tape, worked. When I later came to using the right bit shank for the sleeve, I realized it wouldn't fit no more, sleeve had shrunk beyond threshold! No problem. Got my chisel and hammer, located the now pretty tight opening and chiseled down the line. It got too wide, no problem. Took it to my vise and closed it to the needed gap. Been using with the normal shanks ever since!
'Boring video' - thank you so much!
I too hate that stuff
Sorry mate but everything you did all the way through was ... "yer... I know I don't know what I'm doing ... " and as such your review is absolutely useless! I don't like to sound rude but I regret that I am! As for complaining that the instructions are "out of focus" I would highly recommend you check your own focus! 🤣👍 Good luck and fun to watch... haven't laughed so much for ages! btw everyone watching knows how to set the depth guage!!
I agree that I didn't know what I was doing and I made that EXTREMELY clear. So anyone who already knows their way around a router can either leave, or watch the puzzlement and frustration of a novice trying to figure it out. I absolutely don't agree that the video is worthless - for me as a beginner, the videos I watched from experienced users were no good because they already know how to avoid the things I struggled with. Anyway, thanks for not being rude, I do appreciate that. And it made you laugh. :-)
@@PlanetKeef yer... my bad... I didn't really mean that the vid was useless but more the that whatever you mentioned about the router was not of much relevance to the quality of the router. You certainly had fun doing the vid and I am sure that you can 'gauge' the 'depth' of your knowledge in the progress you must have made in the last couple of years.. "boom! boom!" as Basil might have said! Anyway I did enjoy watching your vid and it certainly taught me something - that I should keep away from making vids for online as I would never even manage to do what you managed!
Thank you. I still dislike this router, but it's now fixed upside down under a table so I don't have to worry too much about it. I got a cheaper one from ALDI that's a lot easier to use for free movement stuff.