Psychedelic Medicine with Jeannie Fontana
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- My guest today is Jeannie Fontana. Jeannie is the CEO of the TREAT California Initiative. TREAT is a statewide initiative that would create a $5 billion funding agency for psychedelic research, which has proven highly effective for conditions like PTSD and Depression. Jeannie was a founding member of the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine, which performs stem cell research. She has also advocated on behalf of patients with Lou Gehrig's disease.
Jeannie and I talk about her background in medicine, toxicology and biochemistry. We talk about how she got into psychedelic research and doing psychedelics herself. I talk about my own experiences with psychedelic drugs, and much more.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:18 Personal Journey Into Psychedelic Assisted Therapy And Pioneering In California
00:07:46 Personal Experience With Als: A Devastating Diagnosis And A Determined Response
00:11:24 Legislative Change For Disability Waiting Period
00:13:48 Empowerment And Collective Voice Drive Funding Increase And Impactful Change In Research
00:22:10 The Importance Of Depoliticizing Science For Progress In Therapies
00:23:21 Challenges In Climate Change Treatment
00:27:45 Navigating Barriers In Stem Cell Research: Insights And Lessons
00:33:42 The Challenge Of Change: Revolution Or Modification
00:35:47 Rise Of Psychedelic Science Research And Consciousness Studies In Top Academic Institutions
00:41:47 Personal Experience And Benefits Of Md Ma In Conversational Settings
00:47:57 Acknowledging Personal Growth At A Young Age
00:50:35 Changing Habits: Recognizing And Responding To Irritating Behavior
00:58:45 Importance Of Funding And Education For Psychedelic Therapies
01:02:37 Creating A Traditional And Spiritual Context For Therapeutic Drugs
01:08:40 Campaign Launched To Address Inequitable Access To Medicines
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Psychedelics killed my drug and alcohol dependencies - one trip two years ago to purge my depression and chronic anxiety from my system was the best decision I ever made. I've done LSD a few times since, but after my last high dose trip I realized that the medicine has taught me enough for now. I might return to psychedelics later in my life if I ever find a source.
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@@userconspiracynuthow can I reach out? Is it Instagram?
In the LSD experience, we are aware of being more our self and less our self (and this can be actualised, moment by moment during the trip) then we're ever capable of experiencing without the mind expansion that LSD provides us.
The work that is done, (that is; mentally spiritually emotionally) is so “individual" a thing, but the final effect can be understood and acknowledged amongst the community of others who have taken a trip on LSD. I think that makes sense, I tried to say it in a way that others who haven't taken LSD may understand. I hope I was successful.
@@brandonDuh47Yeah, he has variety of stuffs like mushrooms, LSD, DMT even the chocolate bars
I've listened to many trip reports, books, talks on psychedelics before taking a proper dose myself. It's impossible to understand their effects on you unless you experience it directly. It does something physical to the brain, no amount of consuming information about them can even come close to trying them yourself.
I did MDMA and LSD two weeks ago on my cottage at the beach alone. Truly a profound experience. Last week I did psilocybin with my friends at the same place. Awesome trip. When I think of these things and ponder their effect on me and my mental clarity and well being...it is obvious that they have made a sublime effect.
dopepeddlers1, he got the best tips and helps. I’ve microdosed shrooms for about 6 months now and it has really helped my anxiety and depression and I’ll recommend it for anyone….
Interesting. We went through all that as kids in school and have never felt the impetus to repeat. I'm glad we did it and I think it broadened us. And no negative effects to me and my friends at least that are evident some fifty years later.
Thank you, this was beautiful and compassionate.
She mentions "PTSD" a lot. I always see that as a red flag as there are professionals in a certain camp of thinking who see so many things as "traumatic" that the term no longer has meaning.
One thing is PTSD is real, but it is quite fleeting and rarely permanent if the trauma is relatively minor as compared to things that war veterans experience for example. For this reason, using this type of therapy specifically for PTSD should be very measured and considered. A lot of people I think are genuinely too straight-edge or (thankfully) _not traumatized enough_ to benefit from therapy like this... at the very least it won't help them very much... and I think some of these more autistic straight-edge people may actually have downsides from a lot of proposed therapy, especially the more esoteric forms like DMT/Hapé (which is a deliriant technically, but people who use psychedelic therapy often partake in other things like this and seem to think there is crossover for therapeutic use). One thing I don't like is a lot of the people offering this therapy don't seem to like no for an answer - there is almost a disappointment from the offerers often when you deny this therapy, when realistically they should be happy if you feel you don't need it. I don't want to lose my anxiety if it is a tool that I have learned to use for my benefit... it only becomes a problem when the current harmony in my life and mind is upset - which is rare and typically avoidable with proper precautions.
dopepeddlers1, he got the best tips and helps. I’ve microdosed shrooms for about 6 months now and it has really helped my anxiety and depression and I’ll recommend it for anyone….
Excellent!
It's all good but especially revelatory is the proclamation of why we tend to get upset with others.
Great stuff. Try to get Professor David Nutt next. He is the GOAT when we are talking about these things.
I've pointed out a couple of minor errors.
Nevertheless this was a wonderful interview. Inspirational in fact. Thank you !
I personally get ketamine infusion therapy, which treats my previously severe lifelong major depression with suicidal ideation (phq9 score >20) to least depression (phq9
Regarding ketamine, I did it through telehealth. Similar to Dr. Fontana, I did not have insight. I got very high for about 40 minutes.
I don't mind getting high but I can do that on my own. I look forward, who knows when, to experience some other psychedelic.
ketamine is a dissociative hallucinogen, not psychedelic
@@evanr5871 I know. I was comparing effects.
dopepeddlers1, he got the best tips and helps. I’ve microdosed shrooms for about 6 months now and it has really helped my anxiety and depression and I’ll recommend it for anyone….
What if I don't want to feel love for everybody? Isn't love merited?
Universal love does seem weird. I mean compassion, concern, empathy and kindness can be good to cultivate, I think. But love is about attachment to a particular person who stands out as special to you. I think universal love seems to be fake.
dopepeddlers1, he got the best tips and helps. I’ve microdosed shrooms for about 6 months now and it has really helped my anxiety and depression and I’ll recommend it for anyone….
MDMA is a phenethylamine not an amphetamine
dopepeddlers1, he got the best tips and helps. I’ve microdosed shrooms for about 6 months now and it has really helped my anxiety and depression and I’ll recommend it for anyone….
1:05:2 She hasn't heard about Wim Hof ! (Everest example)
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dopepeddlers1, he got the best tips and helps. I’ve microdosed shrooms for about 6 months now and it has really helped my anxiety and depression and I’ll recommend it for anyone….
Albert Hoffman not "Alfred".
She seems knowledgeable and it's a fascinating topic but, sorry to say, her delivery is so dry and boring that I had to drop it after 20 minutes.
All this talk of “self-love.” The mark of every addict is selfishness. We don’t need more of that. And let’s talk about those embryonic stem cells-where you getting those? If you have to kill to get those, it sure seems like a zero sum game. I thinNk you two were getting higher and higher as the show went on. Sounded more and more like Bill and Ted.
Every adult has a ton of stem cells in their nasal cartilage
This lady musta smoked a whole bag in the car on the way to the interview.
We shouldn’t be surprised that people who do drugs advocate for drugs. And the shamelessness of wanting the tax payer to pay for your high? Coleman. You’re a good dude. But you need to stop this. Good dude+fame+drugs=early death. We love ya-don’t get wrapped up in this stuff. We’ve lost too many good people to drugs.