Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Achilles Part 1
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- čas přidán 24. 11. 2015
- Nicholas Moran continues his tour of real combat vehicles. This time, he'll be exploring the Achilles-the British modification of the American M10 tank destroyer. Find the answers to questions like: Why did its gun have to be replaced? What is peculiar about its armour? What design drawback does it have? Plus many more questions in the new episode of the "Inside the Chieftain's Hatch." Happy viewing!
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0:39 poor driver lol xD
Eat mud. Litterly
And at 32 seconds he is bumping his head on the front of the turret
Looool
+Hong Tse I hope it was at least a warm day.
Jesse Sisolack hope so too
I love how The Chieftain takes the time to have detailed discussions about the tank in the comments. Very nice of him to do that for the fans.
+clonezeldarmy You're welcome
I do like the information of all the little details; It can get a little blah, blah, blah at times, but I'm learning a lot; More than I did when I was a tank driver in the Army.
8:10 Being harder to climb up on is really a disadvantage when you're trying to climb up to your own, open topped turret. When the enemy infantry is trying to get up there, it might be a bit of an advantage. However, this is an open-field gun, rolling with the heavy armor. (I.E. not a good Urban Assault Gun for obvious reasons: Buildings, with roofs, and possibly upper floors.)
Awesome to see a video of the Achilles pop up. My grandfather drove one in the war and got lucky a few times in it!
American tank.
Modified by British.
Bought by Israel then modified.
Bought by museum and painted American colours.
It all comes full circle
Only that it was NEVER a tank.
@@hoodoo2001 Too bad that it is a TANK
@@spotfleri5779 hoodpp2001 is quite correct. This is a tank destroyer, not a tank. A common mistake.
@@SportbikerNZ Some people just don't appreciate that for mobile warfare you need to put an AT device on tracks. Nowadays they use an APC for the role.
there's one t95 in the world. if you can find where it is and do inside the chieftain hatch. please do it. I want to know the inside of it.
Train
It’s in Fort Benning Georgia. They are building a museum there.
It was at Knox when the Armor school was there
@@hansmueller3029 my original comment is 4 years old, I was 11 when I sent it lol. If you go to Sofilein's channel you'll find a few videos on the T28
@@Train115 wow. Yeah there is still the awesome Patton museum in Ft. Knox Kentucky. Several great AFVs and tanks. When I was 11 my dad had a small trucking company and had government contracts. We were able to get behind the scenes at many secure places on military bases. Knox was 1. They had a lot full of foreign tanks they used for study like penetration testing and identification for tankers Then they used them for targets. I've sat on and in some amazing vehicles. Fun story- he hauled a Mercury space capsule from Johnson Space Center to a museum that was being built It stayed in his warehouse for a year and I played in that thing the whole time. Very cool childhood being around all the military people, vehicles and gear. Thanks for the channel tip. If you can get to Benning you gotta see the 28. Its amazing.
The background music is diabolical
Thanks for your kind advice, Mr Downsyndrome Hitler. I can always rely on you for emotional support, lol.
AND TOO LOUD!!!
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He had trouble with getting up on it he should try that new invention called a ladder
Hey now! I love it.
The engines were lc and la for clockwise and anti-clockwise rotation of the crankshaft. The 71 series engines could be produced In either variant by changing the cam, starter p, oil pump and if i am not mistaken the crank and supercharger blower but all other part# were the same (block, pistons, heads, etc). If you have two crankshafts outputting to gears engaging with a common flywheel, they need to have opposite rotations.
to add to this:
if the connection between the crankshafts and the common flywheel is a simple cog system, the engines would indeed have to have opposite rotations. if it is a more complex cog system, or a chain/belt system, the engines wouldn't need to have opposite rotations.
the advantages of the former are that it is more reliable as there is less parts and the power transfer is more direct, the disadvantages are that there are 2 types of engines and 2 sets of parts.
the advantages of the latter is that there is 1 engine type and 1 set of parts. the disatvantages are that it's less reliable due to the number of parts and that the power transfer is not as direct.
A simple thing to keep in mind about the 18" wall.
For all practical applications outside of other tanks you're in a tank, you can blow it up.
She had the clearance for running across railroad tracks.
Love these old classics. Well worth another view.
My great grandfather was an infantry unit during WWII and he once told me a story of when he once saw a Achilles MK-I slam into a M4 A1 Sherman he told me that he had no idea what was going on but he said that the crews in both tanks had a small brawl and were in some serious trouble. There are many more details but that's the basic's.
then both the drivers were punished to listen to the abhorrent music loop for approximately 60 minutes
The M10 is one of my favorites in the game, I haven't tried the achilles yet.
1:00 that was pretty cool to see the shock wave coming from the gun.
Thanks for the Video, I love watching the series.
*The non-stop music is really annoying.*
*Why have music on top of someone talking???*
Been asking myself that as well, especially when there are far more interesting sounds from the tanks themselves... but it is a sickness here on youtube, have a hard time finding any good tank-clips not ruined by utterly pointless "music".
JoeDurobot I don't really mind it but what do I know
Trust me the video would seem really dull without the music
Not really, check out the videos with lindybeige. No music whatsoever, yet both highly entertaining and very informative.
yes something about his dull British commentary is wildly entertaining
excellent video. fascinated by all the quirky things each nation did to assimilate the vehicle
Great series - but please lose the music track!
I actually quite like the music but it’s too loud
Why
I like it cuz its nistolgic
Finally another episode!
my love for Chieftain may have sparked only recently but it grows by the minute
Reference the engines labelled LC & LA. C is for clockwise & A is for anticlockwise, as they were contra-rotating & thus would have mirror image cams & other parts that weren't interchangeable.
Best video series you have put out
The French m10 premium is amazing, probably one of my favorite t5s.
yes make inside the tanks video, all ways loaded with good information his videos are.
Finally chieftank is back !
*Thanks for informative video!!!. Liked&Subcribed!!!*
@14.12 You have two engines and certain parts wear differently inside an engine. Therefore they're not identical. For example, if you had to strip the heads down on both motors, you'd need to know which push rods came from which motor and from which cylinder. They'd have the left or right motor marked on them for that reason and you'd lay them out so and even push them in a line through a bit of cardboard so you'd know which cylinder they came from.
It's a bit like a self loading rifle, you can't just put another breech block in it because every rifle breech block wears in differently, even where the rifles are all the same model so if you need to replace one you have to machine it first. Similarly you can't just put the push rods (and other bits) in a motor back in any old order you like or you could end up with a real mess on your hands.
True ,I wondered if they rotated in opposite directions hence c (clockwise) and a (anticlockwise) ?
i like the other guy who does these inside of a tank videos too, but once you get used to the way this guy talks he's way better
thanks for the great content
9:57 Little Joe was also the nickname of the generator that could power the turret and electronics when the engine was off in M5A1 Stuarts. Confusing.
By all accounts, I've heard about three different things referred to as 'Little Joe' in this series.
about time we get a new video.
at 13:08 as i see it, the "3 ports for diesel, oil and water" you describe seem to be the 3 intake-air-filters (one for 2 of the 6 cylinders).
I adore this tank in the game
Finally Chieftain!
I don't think anyone in the 40s assumed that teenagers in 2018 would be obsessed with AFVs. WoT is one of very few games that successfully incite learning history, it's impressive
0:40 poor dude outside the tank.
plmküü is a TD no a tank........
Confused me until you explained the markings. My father was a tank commander 601st TD from the beginning N Africa
That music i believe is on my janes flight sim, or my usa f16 flight sim, many a bombing or rocket run have i made, i fondly remember my thud dropping ordinance for the jolly greens, great memories.😎
Lexington Nebraska heartland museum has some nice military vehicles. Slot of stuff was decommissioned there.
LA / LC ... Looking at the valve springs they are counter-rotating ...
The Achilles' achille's heel is the entire tank.
Haha
+PixelBucket The Herobrine Hunter
the entire tank, except the counter weights on the turret
PixelBucket {Razor The Fox} achilles achilles heel is his achilles heel.
Except it's not a tank...
Not a TANK, goofy. It never was a tank.
he looks so done with his job
Like to see these guns compared and explained .
Hi. Would mechanics do the maintenance he talked about or would the crew be expected to handle it?
In one of the best war comedy movies, Kelly's Heroes, there is a character 'Little Joe'.
There was also 'Big Joe'. Was 'Little Joe' a reference to the tank wrench?
The M36 Jackson/Slugger would be cool to see.
Bloody late comment but never mind. My father was a heavy diesel mechanic for decades. Apparently, the old 2-stroke Detroit diesels (GM’s diesel division until about the late 90s) that he used to work on and drive were capable of running both clockwise and counterclockwise and parts had to be ordered accordingly. I suspect that it’s entirely likely that one engine ran one direction and the other the opposite, either both crankshaft spinning towards the center or both spinning outboard. For. Reasons. Just a thought.
Will there be a part 2 soon? I need my fix! =D
Bloody hell was that superman spinning that turret haha!
If you head over to bus greasemonkey .. these engines GMC diesel engines were used on the greyhound silver side busses of the era.. sturdy and reliable.. and super simple to repair.
wow i didnt know the left engine of the achiles had a 17pdr gun :P
I don't know what that is at 3:18, but it had me convinced someone was knocking on my door at 4am...
The background track doesnt work, especially this loud.
Where is T55A part 2? Has it been posted yet or am I missing something? thx
If I remember correctly on the inline Gm diesel engines( aka Detroit Diesel) .the LC and LA codes designate their arrangement and rotation. The "L" means left hand rotation, and the A and C has to do with what side the intake and exhaust systems are located.(among other things) The Gm 2 strokes were very well designed and versatile and had a long and fruitful existence., and millions are still in use around the world today. But D.D. is now owned by Daimler Benz. Most parts do exchange between the different orientations in the same series and were every bit as universal and exchangeable as the famous small block was, but because of the numerous orientations, some parts end up being mirror images of each other thus are not interchangeable. In a side by side tandem drive situation like this you would normally have the blower and the exhaust on the the outboard side allowing for a closer pairing of the 2 engines.
Needs a twin turbo mod for hauling ass in battle
if you look at the heads on the engine both manifolds are on the inside which means the left engine rotated the opposite direction of the right at least that's what my grandpa said who was a crew member on one
hence the lc and la engine designations
I wonder if the vehicle markings (mix of US Army style on a British vehicle) reflects sometime in the past this vehicle was repaired, recovered or otherwise separated from its original unit and got reprocessed or in some postwar era, someone tried to paint it a war time look and didn't realized that it was a convert.
I am guessing LC was clockwise and LA is Anti- clockwise... Watching this again after years... it's still good
Can you give any details on the applique armor used by the British? Zaloga is of the opinion the amour kits were never actually made, I wonder if they were "official" kits, or spare armored welded on in the field.
+Nathan Neff They were definitely made, as photos exist of some vehicles in the field with it. Plus one monument still exists. i.imgur.com/hfU9BrF.jpg
+TheChieftainWoT
Thank you. Interesting.
I can remember when I was young my Uncle showed me pictures of HIM in one of those. Might be the rine
0:39 that person must be soaked and muddy XD
I'd love to see a video about the M18 Hellcat. A great tank destroyer. Do you have plans for such a video?
Found it interesting that The Red army received no more than 52 M10 Wolverine TD's. All through the Lend/Lease Program!. They were attached to the 3rd. Byelorussian Front/5th Guards Tank Army/29th. Tank Corps/1223rd S.P.A.R. Artillery Regiment. Equip with the 76mm M7 gun and a 12.7mm Browning HMG. "see Allied tanks of WWII- By David Porter". Interesting historical note is that Audie Murphy was issued the Medal of Honor for Battle of Colmar Pocket, in a burning Wolverine. Using the 12.7 Mg to rip apart the advancing German infantry, halting there advance.
Can you explain why the sides look the way they do?
I wonder how hot little one got sitting by the exhaust!!!! Sounds like a good way to get burnt. Wonder if you get a purple heart jk. A recruiter told me they called them an enemy marksmanship badge lol.
How much POL does a abrams need for comparison?
You didn't mention that the engines turned clockwise & anticlockwise. LC & LA...?
do the Shermans
At 14:10 into the video he expresses confusion as to why the two engines were labelled LC and LA. Looking at the handed nature of the pair I would have thought that C stands for Clockwise and A for Anticlockwise, meaning that the engines rotate in opposite directions. Many of the engine parts would have to be different because of this. Just a thought...
Achilles is a great name really. I mean it had a great gun but a fatal weakness in the the thin armor and open top.
That guy got a mouthful of muddy water when driving into that puddle
I'm sure this has been said before but : It might be an idea to specify US or British gallons - there's a big difference. Like, uk gallon is some 18% bigger
I bet a good crew would have the driver help the gunner turn the turret by turning the vehicle and also keeping the glasius to the front.
Why did the TD's have open top turrets (ok, probably in part 2).
okrajoe Saves on weight
It is an anti tank gun on tracks. The probability of the first hit can't be underestimated.
because it's just a self propelled anti tank gun, in British service it was used by the royal artillery corp, they liked the ability to see and observe
Did Chieftain ever do an M36 Jackson review?
Achilles was a Greek hero with a very big flaw in his invulnerability, what a jinx name!
Nick: Those look to be left and right hand engines. Maybe so they can nest tightly together? (Thus the "LC" and "LA" designations)
I'm guessing clockwise and anti clockwise.
Where are the valve covers for the engines?
Lose the background music track, unnecessary, distracting and mighty annoying.
lol someone told them this for ever video they made since like 2013... but they never changed, rip
@Funk Enstein yeah dude lol i remember posting on the world of tanks forums back when they started making these videos and that was one of the first comments... sigh
Henry Cornell just another reason war thunder is superior
Shut up
also the irritating graphics flashing after every topic change
cool
I'm trying to look it up. Oh I am seeing it is that a 17 pounder is a 3 inch 76.2 cannon.
0:38 Driver got a face full of mud, lol.
The "Chieftain`s" videos are so much better then Richard "The Challenger" Cutland.
I know its so annoying that challenger gets bovington. his tog vid showed NOTHING of the inside exept into the hatch. no view of the engine deck....
A bit late to add this, but the reason why the engines were labelled differently is the intake and exhaust are reversed on one.
Yes, These Detroit Diesels rotate in opposite directions.
0:40 the poor driver!
wish hed review that … I think archer? the brit TD that faces backwards
@ Storm Morgan: Yes, you have it right: The Archer tank destroyer was build on the chassis of the Valentine infantry tank chassis, mounting an Ordnance QF 17-pounder gun firing rearwards back over the engine compartment. It was well-liked by its crews, being of low silhouette and packing a punch.
Do the engines spin the same direction or opposite? If they don’t spin the same way then a lot more parts would not be interchangeable.
Opposite rotation
Have you completed a tour of the Valentine Archer pf the Panzer IV?
Holy hell. That is a lot of oil. Does it come with it's own refinery?
So Sherman Firefly is not VC but 5C and V has 5 in roman language . oh well that's news , Thanks you Chieftain !.
That engine config is crazy, two diesel engines smacked together with a common crank output. Looking at it I thought he must be wrong and it must be a V-12 since you can see the valve train in two rows of 6, but upon looking it up it actually does have two vertical I-6s. Another weird thing is the lack of a valve cover. You usually do not see all the valve work for an engine sitting on top, unprotected like that.
And the LC and LA prefix for parts would be because they are mirror images of each other but rotate in the same direction opposite of aero engines that are not mirrored but rotate in opposite directions.
The engines rotate opposite to each other,valve covers are removed in this shot,
Many armoured vehicles of the time had two engines more or less separately. The Churchill's flat-12 was two engines put together, the Matilda II and Chaffee had twin engines - and the Australian Sentinel ran on three engines feeding a shared gearbox.
If you have a 90mm gun, you can make a lot of walls shorter than 18".
Were there actually M4s with the large Turret fitting a 17-pounder?
That imagine that would have made on of the finest Tanks in ww2, especially the M4A3 with thr Hvss and a Ford V8.
No there was not
Technicaly, this is also inside episode
Little Joe? Wasn't that the name of the tank driver in Kelly's Heroes?
+Coffeehound No, Little Joe was an infantry men in Kelly's Heroes.
"I also carry a leatherman and therefore I'm so military."
why climb the wall when you can blast it or crush it??
Yanuchi Uchiha
Loud and a waste of limited ammunition
Isnt that a IIC? That dont look like a IC turret to me
World of tanks devs, you guys should try to work with the developers of tank Mechanic simulator since they have really cool tanks and you could send the tanks that are broken to tms to have them fixed to get it back into service or to the account that ownes that tank... Wich could be the same player maybe even not getting it back but putting it in their museum and have a tank from wot that already was placed in the museum to get that one back into battle
Is that engine missing its rocker covers?
I got so confused when the title said achilles when I saw it as the m10 wolverine
Anyone know if the engine seriously had no valve covers, or were these just removed to show more detail for this video?
+Sgt Bones They were removed. The two long thin panels happened to be off for maintenance at the time I was filming, and I decided to leave them off to show the engines.
+TheChieftainWoT Thank you sir for that information. Oddly enough I had to look long and hard through the internet to find a decent picture of the valve covers, almost no footage shows the engines mounted in the vehicle itself, and all photos seemed to be of them in maintenance. I actually found a video of the same engine in a Higgins boat with the valve cover in place. But that was a boat, obviously! So again, thanks for the information. Keep up the good work! Hell on Wheels Sir!
+Sgt Bones I'd put that down to the general disinterest people have for the actual mechanical workings of the tank(s) in general. As Nicholas pointed out in his overview of the M56 Scorpion, people in general are more interested about the gun and combat history, so I suppose the more "niche" (for lack of a better term) interests are not really catared to in the same way, which is a bummer. I love learning everything I can about tanks, down to the nitty gritty. +TheChieftainWoT thanks for your stellar work!
+Friendly Fire Gaming Agree with you completely there, I belong to the niche type of person ever since helping get a Chaffee back to running condition at Ft. Hood Texas, back in the 80's while serving in the Army. And as a model builder I do tend to be interested in more information than most folks when it comes to the interior and inner workings of armored vehicles. That is why I love watching these Chieftain videos, since he always tries to present as much information as possible.
Sgt Bones You lucky sod. Myself I'm from Sweden and have yet to serve with the army or have the opportunity to work on a military vehicle's restoration. But a man can dream, a man can dream...