R1SE+ is the best performance mouse out there if you are competitive but on a budget, performance wise its on par with the r1 pro/pro max. they manage to bring down the price by cutting down on these useless stuff below just to make the mouse feels premium on r1 pro/pro max: 1- reduced DPI and rebranded it to 3395 SE to reduce the price but its actually the same as 3395 (more DPI wont give you any advantage in competitive fps games) 2- premium coating (wont give you any advantage in competitive fps games) 3- packaging 4- xtra feet and grip tapes 5- 4k dongle (wont give you any advantage in competitive fps games) 6- R1 pro/pro max use the Nordic MCU its much more power efficiency judging by the reported battery life compared to the BK3633 a cheaper MCU on R1SE+ a rebranded chip in the west called CX52850. (wont give you any advantage in competitive fps games)
@@DatBoyGuru its so budget friendly for a wireless mouse im gonna throw away all of my expansive wired mouse it distract me when swiping fast coz im a low sens guy, i just got mine today after watching your review couple days ago
@@DatBoyGuruI apologize, but I did not catch it, you would suggest buying Attack Shark X3, right? Right now it is $19 and VXE R1 SE+ is $17. So choosing between these two. Never tried any of these Chinese brands before, not sure what to expect here.
Based on your reviews, I found R1 pro best model among other ones. I just ordered it with 4k dongle around 48$ from aliexpress. Can't wait to throw away my old heavy g502 :D. Only thing I don't know about this mouse is the 4k dongle. idk if 4k polling rate actually works great or not. Also don't know if it has any effect on the cpu that could result in fps drops in valorant.
if you got a 3050 i think it'll be ok. also you won't feel any difference with 1k but you will say you do so that you don't feel so bad spending the extra $12 for it. enjoy your R1 !!
Got mine R1 SE + White. i really love the texture on this mouse kinda plastic but not really plastic, i didn't receive any defect and hopefully this last long
I ordered the SE version, but they gave me the SE+ version (which is not listed.) I guess this is their protocol now because the normal SE version is out of stock?
HALF ?! . . you can actually buy 6 of these. Sora V2 is better- lighter 40g, optical omron switches, rubberized coating and 4K polling @soon. But for $120 the Sora is NOT 6X better than the SE+ and for $20 the SE+ is almost as good as a Sora V2.
Sora V2 is a superb mouse, Pro Max is a very good mouse, SE+ is a great mouse. If you go for a Sora will it match your other peripherals in terms of value and performance? do you already have a 360Hz monitor that can take advantage of the 8K polling in the future. Do you already run a RT keyboard and a RTX3070. If you already maxed out your other hardware then it makes sense to get a Sora V2.
@@DatBoyGuru not even near that hardware lol. I have a 1060 with a 144hz monitor and a mid range mechanical keyboard. So ill go with the r1. Thank you for your advice. This is what I needed
Bought this one (White variant) as a rotation for my Sora V2. I don't know. I feel like the way I grip the mouse (claw) is better at this mouse than my Sora V2. My only concern about this mouse is it just feels slippery. Too bad there are no grip tapes included.
@@DatBoyGuru Now that I tried both on games. I would probably main my sora v2 for gaming for fps intensive then the latter for r1 and r1 be my daily driver for browsing/work. It just feels natural on holding it. While on Sora V2 it feels like an aimbot to me haha
just got my purple max a few hours ago, thanks to you and other yt reviewers for showcasing these 'lesser' known mice, if i hadnt gone down the rabbit hole i wouldve never stumbled across these good alternatives to the big mouse manufacturers and i agree, the coating is great
R1SE+ has different switches than the original R1SE. I haven't opened mine, but shining a light through the gap in M1 and M2 the switch housing is pink/purple. Strange issue with the shaking noise, mine doesn't have any noise at all. As far as the sensor goes the specs are similar to 3335, but as far as I know that sensor never supported MotionSync but this one does.
you could well be absolutely correct too. because i noticed a substantial improvement in click feel over the R1SE. Also the rattle came from the dongle left inside the mouse, when i removed it that solved the rattling noise.
I got this mouse. Its ok as a budget superlight mouse but it just doesnt feel very good. The clicks arent very tactile. M3 is super stiff. Too much pre travel on m1 and m2. Other side button has more pre travel than other one. Plastic coating feels very cheap. The base is uneven and the mouse rocks from aide to side. I wouldnt buy it unless I REALLY need a superlight mouse at a cheap price, Maybe the pro version is a bit better I dont know
i'm planning to buy the mouse but i've seen reviews where they say the sensor in the SE is worse than in the pro/pro max. Is that true in your opinion?
@@seeriousi think they would really much be the same performance. The g pro wireless has a 3366 pixart sensor which is a modified 3360 while the r1 se has a modified 3335 sensor if I'm not mistaken. The only downside is probably the battery since Logitech has really low battery consumption compared to other brands but the weight on the SE is definitely lighter.
At the price - € 26 inc. shipping from Ali - this is a great allround mouse: it's also has BlueTooth so it saves ports on my laptop when necessary. I also have a Darmoshark M3S Pro but I prefer the R1 SE+ because it's less slippery and the size works better for me. For "the greatest mouse ever" all I'm missing is an infinite scroll wheel like on the Razer Basilisk V3 (Razer charges € 150 for the wireless version, greedy b*st*rds lol) but it would make the mouse heavier (still under 75 grams should be doable). It could be named the R1 SE+ SpeedWheel or something ^_^
0:19 You meant 500mAh* ?
Going to cop the R1 pro soon it's $70 with the 4k dongle but still the best bang for buck in my region!
yes i did thank you ! try AliExpress i think it's $52 with the dongle
@@DatBoyGuru Sadly AliExpress doesn't ship here 🥲
@@DatBoyGuru Sadly AliExpress doesn't ship here 🥲
Banger Review Buddy. Very informative and detailed 💯
Much appreciated
R1SE+ is the best performance mouse out there if you are competitive but on a budget, performance wise its on par with the r1 pro/pro max.
they manage to bring down the price by cutting down on these useless stuff below just to make the mouse feels premium on r1 pro/pro max:
1- reduced DPI and rebranded it to 3395 SE to reduce the price but its actually the same as 3395 (more DPI wont give you any advantage in competitive fps games)
2- premium coating (wont give you any advantage in competitive fps games)
3- packaging
4- xtra feet and grip tapes
5- 4k dongle (wont give you any advantage in competitive fps games)
6- R1 pro/pro max use the Nordic MCU its much more power efficiency judging by the reported battery life compared to the BK3633 a cheaper MCU on R1SE+ a rebranded chip in the west called CX52850. (wont give you any advantage in competitive fps games)
In the video, it has the high spot at the center of the mouse, Do you have any solution for that. Thank your comment
chip it uses is terrible for efficiency, with nordic it would have 2x battery life on same Hz and battery size
@@komistechchannel9702 just charge it lol
doesn't bother me and has 0 consequences to performance
yeah only the pro and promax uses nordic
Been thinking about the getting it for a while now! Nice review!
ayo my X peeps
@@DatBoyGuru yessir!:)
Mine was completely rattling because the battery was not glues in. Had to return it.
that's unfortunate
Just ordered it today might arrive tomorrow so excited.❤
Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you for the video man.
@@mglcollapsegdash Hows the mouse?? pls tell me your experience
r1 se+ is really a steal at 20$, i used xtrfy m4, model d and g pro before. this r1 se+ doesnt feel like a cheap mouse performance wise
this is my main mouse rn
@@DatBoyGuru its so budget friendly for a wireless mouse im gonna throw away all of my expansive wired mouse it distract me when swiping fast coz im a low sens guy, i just got mine today after watching your review couple days ago
This or the attack shark x3? That one seems to be a bit lighter and says the battery lasts longer, plus uses the 3395.
you answered your own question
@@DatBoyGuru lol. I mean how's the user experience like, the software and shape etc.
Also how's the build quality and other stuff like that
it's pretty good, web based settings >>hub.atk.pro/
shape is a claw x2 or sora type
@@DatBoyGuruI apologize, but I did not catch it, you would suggest buying Attack Shark X3, right? Right now it is $19 and VXE R1 SE+ is $17. So choosing between these two. Never tried any of these Chinese brands before, not sure what to expect here.
@senpos R1 all the way bro.
hi, thanks for the review, is this consider an upgrade coming from Razer viper mini?
i think the RVM might be a bit nicer but by not much
Based on your reviews, I found R1 pro best model among other ones. I just ordered it with 4k dongle around 48$ from aliexpress. Can't wait to throw away my old heavy g502 :D. Only thing I don't know about this mouse is the 4k dongle. idk if 4k polling rate actually works great or not. Also don't know if it has any effect on the cpu that could result in fps drops in valorant.
if you got a 3050 i think it'll be ok. also you won't feel any difference with 1k but you will say you do so that you don't feel so bad spending the extra $12 for it.
enjoy your R1 !!
Got mine R1 SE + White. i really love the texture on this mouse kinda plastic but not really plastic, i didn't receive any defect and hopefully this last long
yeah very lucky. i'm not totally upset with my high spot but i will be if it's going to make me aim bad(i already aim bad and don't want to be badder)
bro can i ask, did u download the software of the mouse?
I ordered the SE version, but they gave me the SE+ version (which is not listed.) I guess this is their protocol now because the normal SE version is out of stock?
the normal SE that i got was very bad. the clicks were terrible and the QC was bad too. The SE+ is much improved, i think they changed the switches
How this moise perform against a high price one? For example a ninjutso sora 4k or similar? This looks like it has all at half the price
HALF ?! . . you can actually buy 6 of these.
Sora V2 is better- lighter 40g, optical omron switches, rubberized coating and 4K polling @soon.
But for $120 the Sora is NOT 6X better than the SE+
and for $20 the SE+ is almost as good as a Sora V2.
@@DatBoyGuru I was thinking about the r1 pro or pro max but yes, it seems that main diference is the optical switches.
Sora V2 is a superb mouse, Pro Max is a very good mouse, SE+ is a great mouse.
If you go for a Sora will it match your other peripherals in terms of value and performance? do you already have a 360Hz monitor that can take advantage of the 8K polling in the future. Do you already run a RT keyboard and a RTX3070. If you already maxed out your other hardware then it makes sense to get a Sora V2.
@@DatBoyGuru not even near that hardware lol. I have a 1060 with a 144hz monitor and a mid range mechanical keyboard. So ill go with the r1. Thank you for your advice. This is what I needed
good call put that money into future upgrades!
What is the difference between the SE+ and just the R1 (non-pro)? They cost the same so unsure what to go for.
double batt life and huano blue glow v2 vs huano ice berry pink dots.
the reason it has sound becuz theres dongle under the mouse
is there a difference between the vxe r1 se+ and r1 se? there both PAW3395 SE right so whats the difference? old model?
500mAh battery and they changed the switches.
The switches are now very good
When I opened mine, it had Huano Blue Shell Red Dots(60m clicks)
between the r1 pro max and the f1 pro, which one should I get? use claw and palm, 21cm of hand
x1
@@DatBoyGuru
I didn't understand "x1", could you tell me in an easier way? I do not speak english fluently
@@sleepyzx3850 X1 is the new model from this company it's called ATK X1
@@DatBoyGuru I understand, but between the two I said, which would be better? the x1 is out of my budget
@@sleepyzx3850 f1 is flatter and feels smaller while r1 feels bigger in the hand.
Do you have any solution for the high spot at the center of the mouse? Thank you review
it's not enough to bother me or make any difference to performance
Bought this one (White variant) as a rotation for my Sora V2. I don't know. I feel like the way I grip the mouse (claw) is better at this mouse than my Sora V2. My only concern about this mouse is it just feels slippery. Too bad there are no grip tapes included.
i like both. sora v2 has a v hull and r1 has a flat side and taller triggers.
@@DatBoyGuru Now that I tried both on games. I would probably main my sora v2 for gaming for fps intensive then the latter for r1 and r1 be my daily driver for browsing/work. It just feels natural on holding it. While on Sora V2 it feels like an aimbot to me haha
just got my purple max a few hours ago, thanks to you and other yt reviewers for showcasing these 'lesser' known mice, if i hadnt gone down the rabbit hole i wouldve never stumbled across these good alternatives to the big mouse manufacturers
and i agree, the coating is great
Glad I could help! i discovered this brand a year ago by accident when i ordered a mouse they didn't have and sent me the Dragonfly F1 instead
hello, if you compare PAW 3395 SE with PAW 3311, which one is better? Thank You
sorry i can't tell you honestly
Do you know how long the battery lasts on the R1 Pro vs the R1 Pro Max at 4k polling rate?
yes
@@DatBoyGuru how long does it last on each at 4K?
it's explained in the video
R1SE+ has different switches than the original R1SE. I haven't opened mine, but shining a light through the gap in M1 and M2 the switch housing is pink/purple. Strange issue with the shaking noise, mine doesn't have any noise at all. As far as the sensor goes the specs are similar to 3335, but as far as I know that sensor never supported MotionSync but this one does.
you could well be absolutely correct too. because i noticed a substantial improvement in click feel over the R1SE.
Also the rattle came from the dongle left inside the mouse, when i removed it that solved the rattling noise.
Do you know which switches the se+ uses o ver the se?
@@Ash-of1yl Some people checked and found it was Huano Transparent V2 Blue shell Red dot.
I got this mouse. Its ok as a budget superlight mouse but it just doesnt feel very good. The clicks arent very tactile. M3 is super stiff. Too much pre travel on m1 and m2. Other side button has more pre travel than other one. Plastic coating feels very cheap. The base is uneven and the mouse rocks from aide to side.
I wouldnt buy it unless I REALLY need a superlight mouse at a cheap price, Maybe the pro version is a bit better I dont know
yes this SE and SE+ are risky because they are hit and miss QC.
i'm planning to buy the mouse but i've seen reviews where they say the sensor in the SE is worse than in the pro/pro max. Is that true in your opinion?
Yes it's 3395se
If you don't want to worry about the sensor just buy the pro/pro max but if you're really on a budget the SE isn't really a bad option.
@@MidoriShiro i currently have the g pro wireless, how much worse would the SE sensor be
@@seeriousi think they would really much be the same performance. The g pro wireless has a 3366 pixart sensor which is a modified 3360 while the r1 se has a modified 3335 sensor if I'm not mistaken.
The only downside is probably the battery since Logitech has really low battery consumption compared to other brands but the weight on the SE is definitely lighter.
@@MidoriShiro thank you very much man
At the price - € 26 inc. shipping from Ali - this is a great allround mouse: it's also has BlueTooth so it saves ports on my laptop when necessary. I also have a Darmoshark M3S Pro but I prefer the R1 SE+ because it's less slippery and the size works better for me. For "the greatest mouse ever" all I'm missing is an infinite scroll wheel like on the Razer Basilisk V3 (Razer charges € 150 for the wireless version, greedy b*st*rds lol) but it would make the mouse heavier (still under 75 grams should be doable). It could be named the R1 SE+ SpeedWheel or something ^_^
Hey brother!
Can you provide the link please
I couldn't find it on AliExpress
how's the battery life?
Hello would it be easy to get used to this shape if im using a razer viper 8khz currently i play abit of a relaxed claw i have 19x10 hands
ez
Mine randomly disconnects. Makes me wanna throw it in the trash
RMA it but first try enable long distance mode, if all else fails chargeback