PROS and CONS of Hainan Airlines 787-9 economy (PVG-SEA)
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Here we go with the final segment of my recent trip to China and back! This is footage from Hainan Airlines flight number 7955 from Shanghai (PVG) to Seattle (SEA) last month. The aircraft was a 787-9 (B-1135), and I was seated in 57G - an aisle seat just four rows from the back.
Overall it was a really great flight, and I figured the best way to sum up the experience was to give you all the pros and cons. Enjoy!
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other airlines: some generic white and blue
Hainan Airlines: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
love the QFS style shots haha. I had that fried rice from Vancouver to Shenzhen it was amazing! awesome video Scott!
Thanks! If I could have figured out a way to bring a crate of that rice home with me, I would have. 😂
Hainan Airlines won the seventh place in The World’s Top 10 Airlines of 2019 in June 18th
I believe it. My only gripe about this flight was the stuffy cabin crew - but if it’s not always like that then I can see how they ranked so high.
love the quirky and individual way you do your flight review, nice break from the usual way things are done
Thanks Shane! Glad you’re enjoying my content. 😎👍🏻
That meat and sauce looked.. Interesting!! Honoured to be one of your patrons!! Thanks for another detailed review!! 👍🤗
Thank YOU Steph! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Glad to have you as part of the SANspotter team. 😁 And yeah, that meal was...”interesting” 😆. At least it was red to match the seats.
Some of those shots are so smooth damnn 😇
Great review... Awesome shots of Fried Rice and the red awesome shoes!!!
Thanks! That rice looked good, didn’t it? However, this is (unfortunately) the last video featuring the red shoes. They have been replaced! 😮
I know I'm going to sound like a broken record soon but your editing and narration are simply superb! As to the colors onboard the plane, boy that is a lot of red!
Thanks man! It was a real drag arriving back in the US and having to an board another airplane with a boring interior. 😂
Nice video! Breakfast definitely looked better than dinner!
Love your videos. Just subscribed. Hugs from Portugal 🇵🇹
the meal looked quite delish for an economy meal. safe travels
Awesome editing!👍🏼
Thank you! 😊
great fun your reviews. thanks a lot
Glad to see the review b4 my flight with HNA in a 787-9 next week.
Have a great flight! 😎👍🏻
Love your videos Scott!
Thank you! 😊👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome vid!
Great review! I agree, Liking the Red.
Thanks! Yup, we definitely need more color in our aircraft interiors here in the US...
Nice vid man!
Thanks Rylan! 😎
Scott I have got to say that you definitely get some of the most stylish shots and footage. Definitely not run of the mill boring! Great job! I enjoy your videos and of course the humorous commentary! Thanks!
Thanks Guy! I’m definitely not normal, but I’m glad you like my content! 😆👍🏻👍🏻
Keep it up. Entertaining.
wow you are at 17k already! I remember you just hit 10k a couple month ago.
Thanks! Yeah, it goes in spurts - sometimes I go weeks without hardly any growth, and then like all of a sudden there’s a huge increase. CZcams definitely isn’t consistent!
Your videos rock really love the humor. Can you upload everyday, haha. Again you the best, always upbeat!!!
Haha, daily uploads would kill me dead. 😵😂 Thanks for the support Nino! 👍🏻
Probably the most entertaining aviation vlogger on CZcams.
Thanks Lawrence! That’s a huge compliment! 🙏🏻😎😎
@@sanspotter You're very welcome! I am subscribed to the usual guys and gals on here. However, I smile with your narration and simple flight analysis. Sometimes there does not have to be as many "cons" to balance out the many "pros". You made me want to fly these Chinese airlines even more! 😁😎
Great video! My favourite footage was the hand washing in the bathroom. You don’t see that often. 😝
Haha...well, I’m glad someone enjoyed it. 😄 I really need to come up with more interesting ideas for the bathroom footage! 🤔
1:00 You like the livery because of the red color. We've all seen your shoes and apple watch band 😉
2:43 My verdict stands...
3:57 Again, it stands...
6:32 Red shoes!!!
6:38 Red Apple watch band! I was right ;)
You know me too well! 😆 However, I’m happy to report that I’ve changed things up a bit for the next trip report series. Stay tuned... 😉
@@sanspotter I'm conflicted 🤔.
You just betrayed your number one red loving fan...
I low-key hope Scott to do a long haul economy review of China southern and Xiamen Air
China Southern will come first! I really want to try their A380 service out of LAX... 👍🏻
@@sanspotter Remember your first CS experience from Shanghai to Guangzhou!
I preordered the special meal “fruit plate” it’s the best airplane food I ever had
I liked how all of the people seemed confused when you were taking footage of you walking down moving walkway
Yeah, I was definitely causing a scene. 😂
I can totally relate to your obsession with fried rice😂 my go to comfort food any day, any night....
The crew are so pretty!
Love the red seats and orange colors are so 🌞.food looks good how was the legroom good or bad.thank you for the review i so injoy 👀 your vedios can wait into the next one 😊
Thanks Ana! Leg room was pretty good - no complaints on this 10 hour flight! 😎✈️
@@sanspotter good to know the food looked ok hope it was for you.😁
I just found this guy and he's really funny.
8:12 yawning shot is another trademark of urs i guess...LOL!!
Haha, yeah, there’s always lots of yawning going on in long haul economy! 😄👍🏻
@@sanspotter there's one in ur vietnam airlines business class video as well LOL!
The beautiful bold head is back
✨😅
I truly like the way you present and the style in which you use.
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Oh sorry! I was sidetracked for a second. 😄😄😄
Keep it up. I hope you fly more Buisness Class and do reviews. I am most interested in flights from/to BKK - Little Rock.
I’m really interested in seeing a review of Hainan’s service from Tijuana to Beijing.
Don’t tempt me... 😆😄👍🏻
Doug Sanger Yes he should
Haha the next time I go to the lavatory, remind me to do 'cool' things with a camera in there.
Scott, you should've ridden the Maglev train into the Pudong Airport!
Next time! That’s worthy of a video all it’s own. 😎
Awesome video man!! The breakfast looks amazing, but the dinner is just.... pretty bad.
Thanks! My thoughts exactly. Breakfast was much better! 👍🏻
SANspotter yes I agree!
What’s the song called, I like it!
Let’s gooo
💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻😄
I flew this route a couple years ago in B/C going east “flies by”
I’m definitely doing it in business class next time! Maybe out of TIJ...
Yes ; I saw TIJ has flight now ; I’m based in MSP (used to be SEA & SNA before that ) enjoy your channel 👍🏻👍🏻PVG has a great (made to’ order)’noodle bar in the Cathay Pacific lounge at PVG
Red seats..what else would you expect on a Chinese carrier...its a wonder they don't hand out The Little Red Book as well !!! I agree...they look great! As do the shoes! Empty seat in the middle is a bonus...bit like USA or European business class!! Khalid...I am sure he said "reach my row"...but it did sound like Nairobi ( funny stuff) Great review and yes certainly a lot more pros than cons....looking forward to your next flight as always!!
Thanks Craig! I’ve got bad news though - this was the retirement flight for the red shoes! 😩😩 At least they went out with a bang, right? 😆
The seat didn’t equip with the cup holder on 789🤔 Why they cancelled it?
The stewardesses really have one of the most striking uniforms in the skies.
Kindlyupdate us Asean air line
Loved this video! Nice you came to my town! Thank you so much!!
Thanks (and you’re welcome) Eileen! 😄 Unfortunately it was just a brief 2 hour layover before my connecting flight home to SAN. I do love Seattle though! 😍
This is an absolutely fantastic video of an absolutely fantastic airline! I flew Hainan from Edinburgh, Scotland to Dublin, Ireland on a Fifty Freedom flight that goes PEK-EDI-DUB-PEK and PEK-DUB-EDI-PEK and it was fantastic! With the flight only lasting 45 minutes we sadly didn’t get an amenity kit but we did get pillows and blankets and I was allowed to take them with me and I still have them as a souvenir. My 787-9 was less than a year old, it had a great IFE, we got free food (something you NEVER get in European economy class) and my flight cost only £54; not bad to experience a Hainan Dreamliner. Anyway, I’m pleased you enjoyed your flight and welcome to the unofficial Hainan fan club! #FlyHainan
Thanks! Very glad to be a part of the unofficial club. 😆 That must have been a ton of fun to fly them between Scotland and Ireland! 😮 A very unique routing for sure.
Love your cute reviews but you always forget to show the seat recline and footrest which are the most important things!
5.5 - 1.5 for consistency.
The meh is half a point to either, I'd say.
3:42 Can someone explain that comma?
Pleasant video, very tight editing on this one. Good night from the Netherlands!
I haven't fly with Hainan Airlines yet, just want to know which one is better when compared to Xiamen and Sichuan?
I actually preferred both Sichuan and Xiamen over Hainan - mostly because the cabin crews were a lot friendlier.
WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR SHOES?! I've been trying to find bright orange ones again for ages!!
Zappos.com is where I get all my shoes 😎
@@sanspotter At least I'm not the only Av Geek who wears obnoxiously-coloured shoes!
Surprisingly good flight by the looks of it, have not or have yet to try any of the Chinese products may have to give them a go.
Definitely do it if you can! All 3 Chinese airlines I flew on this trip were surprisingly good! 😮
I have a question anyone in any class can go in the lounge? Or is it only business class.
Most lounges allow anyone to enter for a fee. Business and first class passengers get complimentary access.
Hi did you check in a bag. Was hainan airlines strict with checked baggage
2 23kg checked bag for all passengers
Okay. So why is it that every travel CZcamsr I subscribed to always gets an empty seat next to them? Any secrets I should know?
I check the seat map several times before arriving to the airport and then again once I’m inside. I’ll even pay a little money if I need to. Just last week I paid $20 to have an empty seat next to me on a basic economy ticket haha
Just when i am going to travel within China on Hainan Airlines. Right on! :D
You’re going to enjoy it Eugene - have fun!
Was there an aviation vlogger convention in Chengdu or something? Both you and Sam Chui were in Chengdu recently, along with a couple other vloggers.
No, it was just a coincidence - I thought it was interesting as well! 😮😮
Bro the first meal was hilarious Do they have like a snack bar? Because I know you were not full jejeje
Haha, that first meal was like 😬😬 - and you’re right, it wasn’t very satisfying. 😂 They did have a snack bar but unfortunately I forgot to get any footage of it. 😕
@@sanspotter thank you jesus jejeje
I like to hear from United air review.
I might be taking United to Japan in September, and if I do, there will definitely be a video for it!
What's the name of the songs you used?? #CuriousEpidemicSoundUser
Ask and ye shall receive: 😆
Better off with You by Mindme
Busy by Timothy Infinite
Dulzura by Lu-Ni
You Can Make It by Daxten
SANspotter can you answer my question from a few weeks ago? What are the songs in the LAX-XMN video (Xiamen Air 787)?
@@sanspotter Thank you! I really appreciate it. Don't be mad at me but I might use one of them soon haha. How do you enjoy the searching process of music for your videos?
Awesome video! Though I have to admit that the Delta A330neo is much better in every aspect!
Thanks Herb! I was hoping to get a ride on the DL A330neo soon, but...not gonna happen for a while obviously. 🙁
You shoud do Tibetan airlines,there are no reviews of this airlines
3:01 Xixuan Airlines? Please tell me you're not trying to say Sichuan Airlines...
Honestly China has come a long way. As an immigrant who has lived in the US far longer than I have anywhere else, i had always flied western airline for China visits until I met my gf, wife now. Hainan airline is definitely the biggest bang for the buck, crew is generally very friendly and serves you like you're a customer, and they're mostly good looking. Not that it matters but talking to nice looking people seems like a plus.
Don’t you just love that Hainan Airlines has Kung fu Panda painted aircraft?
What do you guys think? Do the liveries look nice?
Yeah, I was REALLY hoping to get a ride on one of those aircraft with the Panda livery. They do look great! Oh well...
When are you "flying is flying " Aer Lingus or Ryanair
Believe or not, I was booking a trip to Europe just two days ago where I was trying to fit in both Aer Lingus AND Ryanair - unfortunately, I couldn’t make either work this time. 😩 I’m flying some other really interesting airlines instead, but...I will definitely still fly Aer Lingus and Ryanair eventually!
Hi Scott,
Flying economy? Good to know that.. Hahahhaaa....
I do think that Sichuan Airlines are better and the cabin crews are cheerful. Maybe next time fly Hainan Business Class... :)
Haha, yeah Franklin - I’m definitely doing business class next time I fly Hainan! At least I hope so. 🤞🏻😄
2:28 Sam Chui became a flight attendant
Haha! Yeah, I see the similarity! 😂👍🏻
Hainan airlines is my favourite
Didn't they have mid-flight snacks back in the galley area? Were you not aware of this or did you purposely dis-include it? Could've easily been another PRO.
To be honest I’m not really sure! I never looked, but I agree that it would certainly be a pro.
Wait. There’s a Centurion Lounge in PVG??
Actually, no. I did see a sign for a lounge with an American Express logo on it, but several other people here in the comment section mentioned it isn’t actually a Centurion Lounge. 😕
SANspotter Ahh I see thanks for the clarification. I’m currently watching your videos in the IAH Centurion Lounge 😂
Hi Scott!
Great conclusion to your short China trip here. I have to say I expected the most from Hainan! The food all looks great, just a shame the FAs were not that good..
Regards,
Brendan
Platinum card, eh? You heard that priority pass for us won't have Airport restaurants much longer, right?
Back in 2014 my wife took a Hainan Airlines' flight with a 8 hours delay...no compensation at all...so we never try them again😅
Ugh. 8 hours?! I’d never fly them again either!
You eat fried rice with the spoon you had in your hand. That's the common way in Asia.
It felt so weird doing that! Using chopsticks felt more natural to me for some reason (though it was especially more difficult 😂).
@@sanspotter White rice clumps together, so it is easier to use chop sticks. The fries rice doesn't clump together as much, which necessitates the spoon. The more you know. 🌈
Name of song used?
There were 4 used in this video:
Better off with You by Mindme
Busy by Timothy Infinite
Dulzura by Lu-Ni
You Can Make It by Daxten
@@sanspotter Awesome, thanks a bunch!
I can see a small red line there.
Red everywhere! 👀🔴😄
Beautiful cabin crew
Isn’t red a lucky colour in China?
Exactly! That’s the reason why everything is red. 👍🏻
Yes it is, it signifies happiness and luck! If added with yellow and if the yellow is coins, it can also mean wealth!
Man at 4:24 that guy looks confused.
Haha! I can only wonder what he was thinking about me... 🤔😂😂
PVG doesn’t have an Amex Lounge. There are PP lounges, but not Centurion.
I thought I saw a sign for an Amex Lounge...🤔 I guess I was too distracted by that bowl of fried rice. 😂
SANspotter It looked good! There is the MU Lounge 71 which is part of the Amex Global Lounge Collection. There is no Centurion Lounge, however. HKG is the only Asian city with a CL.
Oops, you did it again!
Hainan is pronounced like “high - naan” not “hay - naan” 🤦♂️
jayiwa especially when he gets Shanghai correct and then you hear hay naan🙈
Haha true 😅
Like you guys have never mispronounced anything in your life. 🤷🏼♂️😂 J/k My Chinese pronunciation definitely needs practice!
I know right. Even English names are not that straightforward either.
Now that you live in the UK(?) don’t forget to practise “Edinburgh”, “Southwark”, and “Marylebone”. All my American friends got it all wrong 😉
@@sanspotter It's the same "Hai" as in ShangHai.
another one Chinese airline trying their best.Great report
Thanks Yannis - yeah, I really like these Chinese airlines!
Did you just say Nairobi or I heard my own things🤣🤣🤣
Someone else mentioned that as well, and I was like 🤔🤔😄. But you’re exactly right!
Well am from Nairobi hence thats why I asked.Are you willing to try African Airlines😀. Ipromise you will be surprised at how good they are.For me i think Kenya Airways and Ethiopian are the best😊😊
It's pronounced more like "high nun." Thanks for the review.
Thanks Victor! My Chinese pronunciation definitely needs practice! 👍🏻👍🏻
SANspotter No worries! Just thought it might be interesting to know given how tricky Anglicized Chinese can be. Enjoyed the review.
This is not a hate comment, but why have you been in shanghai so much recently
Actually, although it may seem like I spent a lot of time in Shanghai, it was only two days total. It takes a lot of time for me to get these videos edited and published. 😎
In the customer service industry a "meh" is a con. Very bad for business. It has to be very good or excellent.
Yeah, it wasn’t really all that bad, but it definitely wasn’t a pro either. 🤷🏼♂️😄
Thank you for this report About "Royal RED Airlines"
Overall eco/c looked decent..
Are your watch and shoes giveaways by r.r.a.
Those two items also matched the red Interieur...
Haha, thanks Claus! They should be giveaways - a very good idea I think! 🤔😆😆
Hi Non and not Hay Non.
Good thing this was my last Chinese airline video for a while. 😄
QFS would get McDonald’s in the airport and bring it onto the plane. Order the weirdest menu item on the plane and poke it for the camera and send it back barely eaten. Order 20x refill of coke
Tomato juice**
@@zachb_20 lol yeah. and creeper filming people who mean mug him.
hainan airline is the only 5-star airline in skytram
They definitely deserve it. It was a great flight!
Well, we start off with a view of the city, as usual, and some pop/techno music, as usual, and usually the techno irritates me, but I'll let this one slide because you're going back to the States and our two types of music are country and a mix of pop, techno, and rap. We see the boarding line, which is long. Like really long. I would have listed that as a con, but... You didn't... So we'll let it slide.
The first thing we see (that was a pro) was the Hainan Airlines livery. (I pronounce it live-ry, like "We're going live, Jim." I don't like to make airline paint schemes sound like the taste of a metallic organ.) The thing about the Hainan Airlines livery is that it embodies the preferred colors of China. Red and yellow. Red symbolizes luck and happiness and red symbolizes the earth or prosperity. So basically with their livery, they are trying to gain themselves luck and prosperity.
We then see some fried rice. You eat fried rice with chopsticks like you'd eat anything else with chopsticks... You do know how to eat with chopsticks, right?
Before walking to the gate, we get a shot of the aircraft and the... (Dramatic walking sequence?) moving walkway video. Soon we board the aircraft, and the first thing I noticed is that the seats are the exact same color as his shoes. I, personally, don't like the red seats, as that would make life a lot harder for NTSB reporters who are looking to see who died and who's only passed out. I was hoping that there would be some numbers as to pitch, recline, and width of the seats, but alas, there's just funkier techno music. For the LOVE OF JEBEDIAH KERMAN, I NEED SOME NUMBERS! I am a very numerically-minded person, and I think all the other people who like hard numbers would agree with me.
The reason that everything is red is that they are trying to bring luck to yourself and the airline and to make passengers happy while they fly on it and after they deplane. I mean, that's LITERALLY what I said earlier.
We get some nasty looking food after that, which, honestly, probably tasted better than it looked. I don't know, airline food just hits BETTER in the sky.
We finally get a con with bad service. WOOT. I mean, not woot, but still, some negatives.
Of course, mediocre bathroom footage. As in, the footage wasn't bad, but the bathroom was mediocre.
I love airlines that have overhead IFEs showing the moving map, either on the bulkheads or on overhead monitors. That way I can see where we are without having my screen be the map itself and I can watch some epic movies, like *Top Gun.* Danger Zone, anyone?
Then we see breakfast, and that looked AWESOME. Way better than most other breakfasts, as they serve GYOZA in ECONOMY CLASS. With dragonfruit, too? Whaaaaa?
I understand that you made the review overwhelmingly positive, although I could have come up with a few more negatives. People like you are who made Hainan a 5-star airline. You know, you probably could have said that the hard product was good and the food was good, but the soft product (service and other extraneous variables) were less than average, as that seems to be the final tally.
Altogether decently well made, although I still would love to see a spool up, even if it is from the middle row. Put in some numbers and maybe some crew interaction and you've got a good tripreport!
Haha, danger zone!! I totally agree with you there. As a matter of fact, I think UA’s new IFE allows for picture in picture so we can watch a movie and a the map at the same time. That’s pretty cool. 😎
Anyway...what can I say about your summarizations?! Just incredible! Thanks so much, and at least it tells me you are watching the entire thing. 😄😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@sanspotter Listen. I have some... Advice to give. You are an aviation CZcamsr. You do trip reports (Duh.) and post it to CZcams. (Alright, quit listing the obvious.) Don't fly the economy class of airlines that people already know and expect a lot out of. Fly the economy class of airlines people don't know. The weird. Uncomfortable. Mildly dangerous. That doesn't mean limiting yourself to Allegiant, it means exploring. Giving people a taste of some REAL foreign carriers. No other aviation CZcamsr really does that, and it would make your channel unique and stand out. You don't have to do this, just some advice.
grumpy, because FAs haven't got paid
Maybe!
It's pronounced "Hi-nan" not "hey-nan".
Thanks Elliot - I’ll have plenty of time to practice before my next Hainan flight! 😎👍🏻
Hainan should be pronounced more like hi-lan instead of hay-lan
Thanks! 😎👍🏻👍🏻
you are the only white guy who can make the mainland chinese looked at you like a weirdo when usually it's the opposite hahaha
Hahaha, well, I am a total weirdo so I get that look anywhere I go in the world. 😂
personal opinion, i dont like this color of red. the red is too over, well, in some part of china, the dead ppl in funereal, will wear similar color shirt...
Yeah, it’s definitely interesting how prevalent the use of red is in China - for all kinds of different situations.
Wedding will also wear red
Actually it's pronounced "h-eye-naan" airlines... But hilarious nonetheless.
If there’s one thing I learned from doing all these Chinese airline videos, it’s that I can’t speak Chinese. 😄
@@sanspotter Don't be discouraged. You are not the first and you certainly won't be the last to mangle words from another language. At least you try.
lol he pronounced it correctly
by giving the crew a con, you probably got them sent to a re-education camp.
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