Trying Automobilista 2 For The First Time
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4 laps and beats my all time best by 3 seconds - I give up.
Lol
Worlds Fastest Gamer, mate.
He's also a real racing driver. So don't best yourself up.
3 seconds lol bro… u defo need more practice!
3 sec feelsbadman :D
It handles ever so slightly funny, but it still has me going back for more. Time-trialling is a lot of fun, and the presets make it nice and easy to jump in to any sort of AI race you want without having to do a bunch of setup. Also, the graphics-to-performance ratio of the Madness engine is astounding; it looks so good but runs so well. I love AMS 2; sure it doesn't handle as well as AMS 1, AC or even iRacing, but I'm at the point where I've stopped giving a shit about that stuff provided I'm getting an enjoyable experience.
Love it too, wdym by "motorsport presets" though?
@@tumjee99 My bad, that must have been what it was called in PCARS 2 - just the "preset selection" button which configures classes/rules etc
You're bang on about the Madness engine💯
The historic content in this game is extremely good, lot of old tracks and cars to try out. Group C and the GT1's are great. There's also a lot of cars and tracks from South America unique to the game which are fantastic (Curitiba and Goiânia being my favourite tracks, P1 cars are good fun)
Sad to know that Curitiba race track does not exist in real life anymore :(
Exactly this. H Shifter cars, historic and obscure cars and tracks, and take advantage of the 2nd to none dynamic weather and time scaling vs AI. Example is a quick 20 min race at 60X time, 4 random weather slots, in a RWD manual multi-class race of 3 to 4 classes.
Great racing just for the hell of it.
It's always tough to beat Historic Spa with Group C, also. Multi class there, too.
Good to know, I'm sure I'll give this game another try with all the advice I've recieved in the comments from this vid.
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@@Jaaames Last, IF you have a larger rim more suitable to historic cars, it certainly helps with immersion.
Last last thing, make sure the track has lights if your car doesn't. 😅
The best content in AMS2 is definitely the classic open wheelers, closely followed by the Brazilian stock cars and the various prototypes. I just can't get away with the GT cars in the game. They all seem so tail happy. Overall though it is a great game especially for single player racers. The variable weather and time of day are some of the best in any racing game.
Very nice video. I just want to share my experience. I love AMS2 because I find the underlying physical platform being much more dynamic and alive that all other sims, and very nicely responsing to setups.
What I don't like is how the vehicles drive with default setups, especially gt3s. To all who complain about "slideyness" of gt3s (in particular 911 gen1, 911 gen2, mclaren), but also sauber c9, bmw procar, gt4, me group A.... please try just reducing LSD clutch plate number from the defualt setup, from 6 to 2 (or 4).
This changed the feeling massively to me and the cars (now more push-understeery on corner exits) feel much more connected, reliable, predictable and according to my expectations of realism.
The new Formula Hitech (which is season 1992/93) on historic tracks are a great combo. Loads of driving aid gadgets in that era.
Noted👍
I'm doing sim racing over 22 years. (Once professionally, now for fun). Got AMS1 and it felt like an epic rF1 upgrade, or what my beloved rF1 was missing, AMS1 had. So I enjoyed it a lot!
When AMS2 got out, I bought it the very same day, only to try it out 1 week ago, and enjoyed it a lot. I posted a video of my first VR GT race at an unknown track, and would be coming these days back to it asap!
ASM2 really shines with classic cars like Group C on 2000s Spa or Le Mans with scripted weather going from dry-wet-dry in dusk or dawn. Thats an experience you cannot get with any oher sim. Also VR is AMAZING in this one. If I just wanna hop in and have fun for couple of laps, AMS2 is my way to go
Interesting, yeah that makes sense, I definitely didn't maximise my experience on the game in this vid, will need to do another one for sure.
This is true! Love me some stock cars also on that ausie track!
Loved the editing style on this mate. great Commentary, humour, skill and nicely edited. Enjoyed mate!
This is my favourite sim channel by far; not only because JB is the quickest sim racer out there, but mainly due to his positive approach to all reviews. Why trash someone else’s favourite sim?
I really like the slip angle feel in AMS2
Try AMS1 and you will be amazed by how good the physics are
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Yes because it uses the rf2 engine 😊
@@alkallata80 rf1 engine
The keyboard warriors have become placid and now talking about other games lol
Yep, I definitely need to, so many people rave about it😅
Im with ya for sure! Ive been racing in AMS2 for like 3 days or so? Less then 15hrs, that game has a lot to offer and is generally fun to race in. I've been doing the time attack stuff trying to break some records myself so i'll see you on track for sure 👀
The best feature of AMS2 is how incredible it is in VR. It's very fun to just put the headset on and play around on all sorts of cars and cool spaniard tracks that aren't in other sims(though it still has all the usual suspects like suzuka and spa and monza and all that stuff).
For VR users IMO = iracing = ams2 > ac > acc
I always thought VR in AC was mega, but if you're saying it's even better in AMS2, I need to try it.
@@Jaaames Out of all the popular sims, VR in AMS2 gives me the best 'in car' feeling by a mile. It's dark in all the right places like the footwells. The other sims are rendered like everywhere has been pimped with LED lighting strips.
vr means nothing if the game is bad
@@brtcobrathe game is awesome
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Set a time 0.3s off yours, also with the AMG 😤
Something about AMS2 just clicks for me, have only ten hours on it and everything about it feels better than ACC. I find it much easier to take the correct lines and make the car do what I want in AMS2, as opposed to ACC in which the cars want to wash out unpredictably and the front tyres always seem to have less grip than I expect them to.
11:50 rFactor 2 has had laser-scanned monaco since 2019 (Circuit d'Azure)
The AI is a lot weaker on the brakes, but they have got invisible boost zones at the corner exits to make up for the deficit. And its really easy in AMS2 to overpush the tyres, but it is not quite necessary and its slower in the long run.
For Monaco, specially with the wet, AI probably adjusted to a really high downforce rain setup, which is why they have more grip.
Project Cars 2 with Oculus Rift is what got me into sim racing as soon as VR launched
The streets will never forget pcars 2
@@Jaaames 🤣🥂
Going for F1 in the rain in Monaco - I can’t think of a worst combo to start with…. If you like LeMans, try that with the LmDh& GT3 cars.
Lmdh in VR, 👌
Yeah that's a fair point, I heard Monaco was laserscanned so I wanted to try it more than other tracks, but yeah looking through these comments, there's definitely better combo's🤣
Your take on the physics is spot on. Cars just feel like you have you push them hyper aggressively at all times and go through every corner with a ton of slip and even deliberately slide at times. I think a lot of people are too slow to get to the pace where they're having to do that or just aren't able to feel it, but I'm not especially fast (102-102.5% pace in ACC, for reference) and I am easily to the point where I'm having to use that driving style and it bothers me a lot, so anyone actually fast is probably going to notice it even more. The tires just let you have way too much slip angle and aren't peaky whatsoever, even with all these updates to make them more peaky. It is super fun, especially in older cars where the suspension of disbelief lets you kind of ignore it, but I know how a GT3 or prototype or open wheeler is supposed to behave and AMS2 just isn't that.
The AI is also just busted in any conditions other than perfectly dry, which is a shame because they are surprisingly good when they are usable, even if the typical "too slow in some corners, too fast in others" issue is present. They'll defend and attack and for the most part give you space, but as soon as a rain drop hits the track they're grip hacking into another dimension.
I say all this as someone who has more time in AMS2 than any other sim. It is so fun to just jump in and drive without any real thought, and it's amazing with friends because you can just send a steam invite and get people in a race against AI in minutes with minimal setup, but it is very much lacking in some areas. Too much width at the cost of depth, unfortunately
Too much width at the cost of depth is a really good way to sum up AMS2 tbf😄
Yeah fully agree. The faster I go the worse it feels. I've done some GT1 and I was like 0.3 sec of WR on SPA and I could really remember some really odd behaviours with the aero and physiscs..
It is getting better but still work to do.
@@TheCameltotem driving this game at 90% is awesome but it all falls apart when I really start pushing which is a shame
Ams cars definitely aren't created equal in terms of physics and feel, might be worth trying some of the gts
Automobilista 2 is amazing with the Pimax Crystal and it works at 120Hz if you lower a couple of graphical settings.
Nice seeing you checking out the game! I would recommend you to get the endurance vol.1 DLC as it has the new Gt3s (including the 2020 Merc) and the Lmdhs.
Yep, seems like I'll need to get the DLC's and do another video on the game at some point.
The Metalmoro and the new le man cars ( dlc ) have amazing ffb.
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I always remove as much engine braking as I can in AMS2, it makes it feel more like AC1, as AC1 has very little engine braking. To do this, go into the setup of the car and increase the "engine brake" setting to max.
I've compared the telemetry of ,SIM's without adjustable Eng Brk and those that do have it, and for AMS2 the EB should probably be set somewhere right about middle range, but adjusting it to suit your driving and downshifting patterns is certainly a good idea. Setting it all the way one way or the other in most cases is probably doing more harm than good.
@@CaptainCrunch99 as a general rule, yes, maxing out any parameter without knowing what it does is not great!
I did some testing with GT3 cars in AC and ams2. Even with AMS2 eng brk maxed out, it still loses speed faster than AC. The AMG GT3 in AC for example just rolls on forever! ACC doesn't have as much engine braking as AC from brief testing.
Interesting, that's probably why I didn't feel like coasting was the best way to get laptime from the car.
Tons of fun. The old school formula cars on the old tracks are great to hop in and just go. Never known the the ffb to be the same for anyone
OMG you are an awesome driver. Watching this video gave me my answer whether or not I wanted to purchase. My answer was yes. Thank you for sharing..
@0:40 At least I’m not the only one who’s got a fresh cup of tea next to my rig when I’m racing😅 nothing beats it
Worth at least half a second
Great vid. I wonder if you would need some time to do a proper wet weather setup on the F1 car to get the grip out of it? Really enjoyed this though. You have some incredible skills.
Project Cars 2 is more "on rails" imo, AMS2 is soo much more immersive, and it is in VR it reeally shows its worth, it's awesome in VR 👌
The minis are really good fun, as are the Brazilian Stock cars.... but the copa classic b is where its at for me, basically old 80s hatchbacks. As for tracks i can definitely recommend a few of the classics like Bathurst and the British tracks, the Brazilian and Argentine circuits are all surprising, some good tracks over there.
Yeah in the next AMS2 video I'll likely choose Bathurst as one of the tracks😍
Editing is on point man.. great content
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It seems you only have base content and none of the DLCs, in that case I'd suggest you try Porsche Cup 4.0, Stock Car 2019, and the Formula Classic cars. Maybe try a race in a non-street circuit like Interlagos, Kansai (Suzuka), Bathurst, etc.
Very impressive to see you get so close to the world record so quickly.
Noted, thanks🙂
Try the formula junior I think it could be a great training car on how grip loss feels
Someone get this man a DanielKart custom ffb file and the Endurance Pack. Also, the P3 class Metalmoro Duratec is fantastic around Donnington Park.
It also helps to turn off all head/driver movement in the settings , and turn on legacy head movement mode.
Roger that good sir, thanks.
The ONLY Issue I have with AMS2 is that ABS and TC engage way too early, even with TC LOW and onboard set to 1, so I usually drive GT3s without ABS and TC on 1 or 2, depending on car and track. I really love that I can drive this aggressively in AMS2, oversteers fits my style well.
VR performance is really great in this game.
For me, it's all about the VR. Nothing else gives the immersion and performance in VR like AMS2. I'll take that trade-off for it being 'less realistic' than some other sims in a heartbeat, because at the end of the day none of them really simulates being in a real car completely realistically anyway. They all have their pitfalls. At the end of the day, I want the immersive feeling of being in a race car and I feel AMS2 in VR delivers that more than any other sim, regardless of the physics.
AMS 2 in VR is insanely good
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slip angle and aggression into bends seems to work for me in time trials,, I keep going back,, for me it feel more engaging then either ac/acc and similar to wrc generations.. I keep enjoying myself driving it.
I just got a Cube Controls FPro wheel. During sudden changes of direction (with ffb quite high) , I can notice a slight creak sound in the rear part of the steering wheel. I have a Simucube 2 pro base with Simucube quick release, all the screws are very tight. Do you have this "problem" James?
If you like open wheelers, AMS2 is very fun game, if you can accept some quirks in the physics engine. The V10 gen 2, and Formula Hitech are especially good.
You need to do a rsce with weather transitions and day night cycles
Go for GT1, Prototypes, GT3 & GTE & GT4, old Formula Cars & Formula Junior, Mercedes 190E, BMW M1 Pro, Porsche Rsr 1974... I'm not sure if you tweaked some setup before Monaco in the rain but if you didn't you should...
Good to know, will bare those cars in mind. All setups in this vid were default btw ahaha.
I wonder if this video was recorded before the recent tyre tread changes 🤔
Love the editing on this 😂
🐐 editor
The secret to to your great skill is out. A strong cuppa with the tea bag left in pre-drive.
Damn it, I told the editor to leave that out.
Nice to see you driving in AMS! Try the 2nd Gen GT3s they are much better.
Yep, definitely need to try that.
Try the f3, super v8, gt1 and group c stuff. New LMDH’s are dope too but the default setups need some help. EDIT: they also have ginettas in this as I see you drive some recently.
Copy that!
AMS2 has been my go-to sim for racing with my VR. I find iRacing extremely tricky to drive and always feel like I'm driving on soap. I just wish AMS2 had a better replay system. Thanks for the review mate!
Love your videos James 👍🏻
tbf you should probably be using a different simucube profile than one for iracing as it’s never gonna show off AMS at its best.
And did you change the FFB settings in game from default / default+ / custom etc?
Also surprised to see you using the old GT3’s 🤷🏻♂️
AMS2 has its place, like any sim it does some bits well and other not so good, the best thing about it though is the developers genuinely care and work they’re boll**ks off for the user base.
Here’s hoping Le Mans ultimate isn’t a massive let down later today 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Those B-spec driver names are glorious. I miss that from my gaming days.
i was considering buying this game just for the 80s/90s F1 cars
can't you dial in chassis set up to make it handle more to your liking?
I was not expecting to say this because I'm a complete casual, but I agree with pretty much everything you said. I don't know if the physics are weird, or it's just the default setups, but it does feel like it encourages you to 4 wheel drift around every corner. I'm also not convinced it's realistic, but I enjoy it. I think GPLaps said it has "hero physics". I enjoy just hopping into it and being able to race basically any car I get the urge to drive, and do a couple laps against AI in any conditions. The AI do seem to sometimes abide by different physics to the players, but if it means I can miss my braking zone by a bit without punting someone off the track, I don't really care. It's only an issue for me when it seems like rain or something doesn't affect them.
quality content as always‼️‼️
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good to see you on ams2 mate!! try the community events, they are essentially time trails that ams2 throw up each week!
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thought I was watching spiffing brit for a second 🤣
Dude gets in to the game does 6 laps and lands in top 10. DA HECK?!
I don't play AMS2 very often because the online is not good, but in terms of physics, I think it's the closest one to the real life onboard footage. The way the car reacts to bumps (funny how people complain about that, when that's exactly how real life footage looks like), the rear end being loose enough (real GT3 cars are not so sticked to the ground as in ACC, for example) or even the (turbo?) noise changing its pitch with the compression and extension of the suspension. I know James has real life experience and it's top class sim racer, but I'm sure every real life car feels different and we are all too used to the "standard" simulators, that when one tries something different, we look at it as it was wrong when maybe it's not.
Physics are a bit off compared to AC but the feeling can can be improved massively by using custom FFB
I feel like AMS2 always had that stange feel you mentioned. Every car has a bit of it to a different degree, I think GT3 is straight up garbage compared to every other sim, the best is probably classic F1 cars with classic tracks. I am not even a big classic stuff enjoyer, but I found those to be the best to drive. Especially in VR. I still feel like the OG AMS feels significantly better, and no AMS2 update ever changed that.
Try the new Le Mans track and LMDH stuff, those are really good. The 1960s cars around that era Monza is good fun for racing.
I find the wet track stuff vs AI impossible too, they seem to have a different level of grip.
Good, it's not just me then😂
Great vid James, I'd love to see you go for some time trial world records! There's tons more content in the game for you to explore in a another video.
Also, if you're on the defualt FFB profile, i would recommend going to default+ or a custom FFB profile 👍
Thanks man. Yep, need to do another video / some streams on AMS2, 100%.
Feels like iRacing have to update tire model before rain release. So iRacing vs ACC video soon? :D I am making a sim racing center and A2 doesnt have comm. license still, fail...
Set the FFB for your wheel instead of the iracing one and toy wull enjoy it more.
I just dove into this game couple weeks back now. I gotta say... I jumped in at the right time (recent updates I hear are game changing) and I have been really loving the game. The FFB and physics are not the best...but the visuals and AI make up for that. The game is really good and if you love sim racing...check it out! Worth the time for sure! Get content manager and grab some extra car packs BTW! Also run the custom FFB setup you can get from Race department. Turn on legacy head movement and set everything else to zero. Go from there...
Some good tips here, cheers. Will bare these in mind when I next play the game🙂
@@Jaaames yeah it really helped me enjoy the game more. Very fun game tho definitely not the best sim, but a fun one no doubt!
Here’s a fun idea, how about a sim racing league where each week the drivers play on 3 different games for 3 races, all randomized from like a list of 10 or so games, and so on for tracks and car categories on the games. Would be a blast to see the top drivers have to figure out something completely unpredictable
I agree it would be so much better to remove the 'practice' element from sim racing, would be so much more enjoyable😂
@@Jaaames haha and I mean I get most series that’s unrealistic and not exactly the way of the sport, but it would definitely be fun as almost a game show kinda spin off where pros are there for more fun than competition… and it’s easier to make happen and have fun guest stars because of the no practice required
Thumbs up for the stereotype tea!
Haha.
Just kidding, nice that you tried AMS2 and thanks for sharing the experience. It was fun watching.
I really like the formula hitech dlc, especially the 93 mclaren f1.
In the default game im mostly into group c racing. I just love classic stuff more than new stuff in general.
Why have your brake pressure on 100% I always preferred graduated application of brake pressure.
You tried the worst combo car track in the rain and that with max AI 😂
Try the Nurburgring in the mini cooper with weather changes or GT1. Old cars are pretty fun in AMS2. They also got the latest spa version.
Yeah I definitely didn't maximise my AMS2 experience that's for sure. The fact I chose such a bad combo & still want to play it again shows to me it's a solid game. I'll definitely try it again in the near future.
Do the update to the GT3 Gen2 and it will feel a bit different they have been updating the physics
I just have had a good pc and DD Moza r5wheelset(incl lite brake kit(which I have tweaked to have more stiffness just added 3 solid steel filler DIY rings to make max pedal travel +/- 8 mm less (and set my brakes in pithouse to 0 at 4 at 20, 12 at 40, 25 at 60, 58 at 60 and 100 at 100) for about 8 months, because I wanted to Sim seriously after being a Console jokey for the last +/_ 3 decades, so I went Iracing and love it, but the upgrading system doesn't work with my Steam money. When it does I probs will be on that more and love the new rain system but I want more cars and tracks ASAP. But AMS2 is epic and I did not expect that, I love that it includes LeManns. and yes LMultimate is great as well but the replays do not work and nothing I have tried works to get repays working in LMU, when it does I'm gonna be a happy camper.
As long as Iracing won't make me upgrade cars and tracks via Steam money, AMS2 is my favorite sim thus far.
I agree that AI in most sims is slow(ish) where I'm quite a bit faster(ish) and faster where I'm slower, Lucky you have mentioned that so it is not just me thinking that is odd.
For me the best cars in ams2 are the classics. GT1, BMW M1 and the classic Formula, Formula V10 is excellent
The physics have actually improved since the last update. I think it has an arcadey feel that I enjoy even though I doubt it is very realistic. I avoid GT3 and GT4 cars, I preffer ACC for that. But I love driving the Caterhams, the Formula trainers, the old M3 and the M1. It is the perfect game to have some relaxed fun especially with a shifter.
Funny thing there’s something about it. I can’t put my fingers on it, but it doesn’t give me the same happiness and feel that I’m getting out of RF 2 ? Do I think it’s a fine Sim hundred percent. But there’s some thing with the physics that’s just off by a little. also, I feel it needs more camera options. If the locks camera angles to track it lacks cameras, I am a huge fan of Sebring in RF 2 For the camera 2 and 3, 4 Where did you get a fantastic look at the cars handling?
AMLs 2 Needs Sebring. Just an opinion from the peanut gallery, of course
How many cars in stand alone edition? And tracks?
Jamesss I gotta get you in a lobby with some fun weather settings with a wacky track/car combo, let me know if you're down
Man i cant lie ive stayed away from your content as i thought it was just serious sim/ esports content but the amount of shit post editing in the first 2 minutes earned you a fan for life
the beauty is in historic cars. try BMW pro m1 at bathurst
i like the caterham around brands , try VR - it does well
Can you do one of these on raceroom? Its changed loads over yhe last few years.
Finally. ITS ABOUT FUN AND SIM RACING WITH AMS2! VR is PERFECT
After 6 years of doing esports stuff, I forgot fun was possible in sim racing🤣🤣
Porsche cup 4.0 for me ,loads of feel, no driver aids and just enough power to exploit..but i use a humble controller😏
I maintain the tail slipping away is wrong. Pretty though
I concur with both of your points here sir.
It's appropriate on some of the historic cars, but it's completely wrong on some of the more modern cars.
agreed and was good to see it happen with James at Brands, when the end just let go on the Merc. It happens all the time, and in races can't get around the first lap without the inexpicable loss of grip, traction mid corener. I want to like the game, played it simce StockCar Brasil, where it drove well but maybe the graphics were not good. But that real feel it had is not in AMS2, but the eye candy is cool if thats your thing@@flyingphoenix113
AMS2 in VR is great so I've heard.
i love it in vr so good
Really entertaining video well done
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your vid production is so good now, nice on centurion
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can someone tell me what the optimal tyre pressures in ams 2 are like?
There are none, ‘optimal pressures’ is some acc nonsense. It depends on the tyre, but slicks are roughly 80 degrees celsius, wih about 7 degrees IMO (camber is important in ams2)
Ams2 is not a Gt game, it's a great Formula/Prototypes game. And you are right, if you got the feeling from Project Cars you'll find yourself at home
Why you don't have GT3 Gen 2 cars? Is it default game with no DLC bought?
Try the GT classic Porsche on Nordschleife!
It's incredibly fun!
Glad to finally see someone with real life racing experience play the game. For me AMS2 does indeed require a unique driving style. Can be fun but it doesn't seem like any real car or other sim I have driven. Almost drifting is the way to be quick where as IRL that is the complete opposite to what you want to do.
Yeah drifting IRL is definitely not what you want to be doing, tbf tho I didn't try the best mods / combo's in this video. Will give AMS2 another shot in the near future.
@@Jaaames Can be a fun game for sure. I don't enjoy many cars in game but can recommend the GT1 and P1 class for cars that feel more connected to the road. Only my opinion though, you might say they are rubbish 😂
Why are you using the old Merc car instead of the new Merc Evo which has better / more advanced physics and FFB?
Probs because he bought the base game and the new Merc Evo is DLC.
@@flyingphoenix113 Exactly.
would be funny if this games endurance dlc is actually better then le mans ultimate which I hope it turns out great also when its full release, also track scenery changes depending on the date you choose, if you ride in nurburgring in winter you will see snow on some sections
Drinknig game: Take a sip every time James says "Oh no"
for me, AMS2 is like Project Cars 2 but better in many aspects. excepting career mode, but there are mods for that. it's a really good racing game, nice physics, FFB, sounds and visuals.
Get the DLC's for the best content and the base setups are not always best. Good video!
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Is this only on PC or is there a console
tbf. gt3's are probably the worst cars to try as your 1st time on AMS2. its not a gt3 sim.
As a Mercedes driver. Since you stream racing. Do you always have to be in a Merc? Bc i think Jarno has to. I think.
Not always, but it makes things easier for me tho😂