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- The Connectome is a comprehensive diagram of all the neural connections existing in the brain. WIRED has challenged neuroscientist Bobby Kasthuri to explain this scientific concept to 5 different people; a 5 year-old, a 13 year-old, a college student, a neuroscience grad student and a connectome entrepreneur.
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Their neurons while having this conversation must be like "omg theyre talking about us guys"
😂😂
😆😆😆
My neurons love the neuron jokes lmao 😆😆
Lmfao 💀💀💀
Haha 😐
i like how he's lean in posture doesnt change between talking to a 5 year old and talking to a peer in his field.
I guess he was just comfortable or really into the conversation lol
@@spacespace321 excited
@@default8274 yeah he’s just so happy explaining it that he so comfortable
I thought you said and talking to a pear 🍐 lol
It’s because he still has to simplify his thoughts for everyone. Plus his posture draws the person in and makes the conversation more comfortable. Also you can tell hes very passionate about this topic.
This gentleman looks like he’d be equally comfortable chilling over a beer joking around and also explaining the latest developments at a conference. In other words, my favorite kind of expert.
He has a great voice and cadence. I could easily just sit and listen to him speak while enjoying a cold one for sure.
Seems totally judgement free while passionate about his area of expertise.
Would absolutely have a beer with that guy.
Actually he looks like Adrian Pimento
idk hes kinda dismissive and seems arrogant.
I love how as you get higher in knowledge, the dialogue gets more and more around ethics and philosophy.
also political
@@lcdream4213 so annoying that politics creeps into such a beautiful topic.
@@Olibaby12 you’re gonna hate my country people then, everything is political which made me stop using FB
Because if you already have a full understanding of what it is there's no point explaining it again
@@Olibaby12 politics is inherent in society, getting annoyed that it creeps into everything is like getting annoyed that you need to sleep
Being able to describe something complicated at different levels of understanding is a real skill.
Laura P very true
I didnt know what the video was about until I read your comment
@@nicoleloves9483 Not everyone can do it. I`m studying science and I often find it difficult to explain some more complicated concepts to people around me
@@Sugarsnaps24 this is the fundamental ability that teachers of all levels should have. Being a grade school teacher can, in ways, be much harder than a university professor. This is also why not everyone who wants to teach can be a teacher
It is not a skill, it means you truly understand the concept. If you cannot do that, you just have a superficial understanding of what you are talking about.
"there's way more cells in your brain than all the stars we can see"
kid: :o
pikachu meme *inserted*
👁👄👁
I remember 50 billion billion neurons in the brain.
I know 2 billion (billion) stars in the Milky Way.
...It's true...
Lmao,
Me: :o
Lemme not like I reacted the same way😂😂
This is how an expert should be like. Not only bragging with jargons, but the ability to explain super complex concepts to everyone.
All experts can do this by default though.
@@sakispdsw tell that to my math professor in uni. Some scientists are better at working with peers and not very good at explaining. I assume it might be because they’re stuck in their own bubble of knowledge and sometimes can’t correctly judge what somebody outside of the field might not know.
@@sakispdsw not true. Science communication and knowledge translation are learned skills. Yes to be considered an expert, you probably have had to communicate with a wide range of people. But many people have advance expertise and cannot communicate well
There’s a quote by Einstein that goes “if you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough” and this is exactly what he was talking about IMO
@@emdove I think that not every expert should be able to explain simply. That’s a teacher’s job. If you’re not a teacher or a university lecturer, you’re gonna be working with people at your level, so why would you ever need to have to explain in a more simple manner. Some people are good at what they do but just can’t teach it to others.
I like how they got Adrian Pimento to explain neurobiology
Spitting image of him
Finally I see someone who thought the same thing 😂
Derek
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY HAHA
I was thinking the same thing 😭😭😭
What if I am a college student but stupid
Just watch that 5 y/o part again
Most of us are
Atheer A that’s fine, world of full of those - one more won’t change much.
It’s finals babey
what do you study
You know you're knowledgeable in a subject, when you can explain it to anyone.
Albert Einstein once said ; " If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. "
Of course he can explain it to anyone, he is a neuroscience professor, lol.
FYI: Your comma is incorrect. Don’t use commas to separate a dependent clause from an independent clause when the independent clause comes first. :)
And for your information, it's not good practice to use a colon when not having a list.
+Poindexter Frink Are you talking to me?
As a molecular scientist with a master's degree, I am thankful for the "kid" explanation hahah
@DINKLE BERG people get masters and I think it’s clear it’s a joke .
Yes we got it. No need to boast about it to trigger me for this mean comment. Shame on you
@@premiumuser2367 trigger you with what mean comment ?
@@premiumuser2367 it's a joke......? What?
is molecular scientist studying more about chemistry or physics?
The little guy’s mouth dropping when he’s told there are more cells in his brain than stars in the sky 😂 So wholesome. Love this kind of content 👌🏼
Neuroscience is basically a brain looking at itself, then declaring it to be the smartest thing to ever exist, yet not understanding a thing.
This was useless because your brain wrote it.
Brained people am I right smh
@@thatonedude-6819 WOAHHH! bro don’t be braincist
I love this
No
"To be honest I have no idea"
"That's a great place to start"
Lol
Because even he doesn't know, but he has a job. lol
Kind of wished some of my professors were like that
that's actually so wholesome
Better than having misconceptions lol
It wasn’t until “Would that computer, then, be you?” did I realize how deeply philosophical this is.
Thats what makes neuro so much more fascinating. Its stuff like conciousness and all we are is brain.
And was pondering if we make a teleportation machine and teleport someone to a different location, would they still be the same person or diff?
There’s a movie (Chappie) that talks about this topic
Alternate question: if you scanned your brain and ran a simulation on it to simulate it(assuming 100% accuracy) would that simulation be you? Would it be alive? Conscious?
it means we are physical beings w a psychical soul
No it wouldn’t be me, as you can see we are children of our environment as much as our genes shapes us, so does our past experiences & environment in which we developed our brain to its fully functional stage so without past experiences just with a ready to go brain it can be similar to me having memory but not the actual experiences is my guess
Imagine if this mapping were able to identify more accurate diagnoses for mental health and neurological disorders, and then find a way to trigger the neurons in the real brain to heal those pathways or simulate different medications to find the correct dosage for each individual/identify side effects without ever having to make the client endure that process of trial and error. That would be fantastic.
Can you imagine how much applicable data we will inquire as we map a brain?!
In the future, it would definitely be possible to map the neural connections, but you lack all the other connective (glial) cells, cerebrospinal fluid, plasticity or automated in-and outputs to accurately copy a brain. A copied brain would represent you, at that specific point in time, without any flexibility or possibility for change. In order to use these brains for accurate simulation for therapies for neurological and psychiatric disorders, you really need the brain to adapt and change for the better. You need to be able to form new connections, inactivate old ones. That's something a connectome in itself won't really help with.
But it is definitely a start and I agree the prospect of this possibility is amazing. However far it is.
Yesss! As someone with adhd,HSP,HP,anxiety and eating disorders that would be fantastic
yeah i was thinking about those possibilities
That's what's being done. Neuralink can essentially stop seizure activity by firing a counter pulse before an epileptic event occurs.
The thing that’s crazy is that neuroscientists are basically brains studying brains.
It's a similar thing in cognitive psychology. Even in Physics, you're essentially the universe studying the universe.
Brainception
Yeah, us neuroscientists. We get it
The brain studying itself
You are not your brain, we are not the universe...
MY HEART EXPLODED when the little boy just gasped when he learned how many cells are in his brain 😭😭
I don't know, the scientist would probably say that that explosion you felt was just created in the brain😉.
RIP
Interestingly, most of those brain cells are NOT neurons. There are supporting cells called glial cells that far outnumber the neurons.
Wait... so you're...like... dead right now?
@@UrbanFires You got it, I'm just a spectral being that's possessing my roommate to post on social media for me
how earnestly he says "yes" to something he agrees with makes me feel really good about stuff.
To quote the scientist "huh."
Imagine dying and having a scientist read out your dirtiest secrets and memories.
thats what the vodka is for
Im ok with it lol ill be dead after all
@@anniewright9532 same tbh why would I care. I wouldn’t even know
"I have checked the browser history of your brain, and oh my... I must say I didn’t see the plant thing coming."
He forgot the 6th level: unenthusiastic teacher
カラス he would have a conversation with a mirror
Deez n 😂😂😂
AHHAHAHAHAHAHA amazing
カラス is
That's level 0 rather than 6 I'm pretty sure it's easier to tech a 5 yo about the world than the person who has given up in life...
"do you know what a brain is?"
"something that remembers fings?"
soooo cute lol
the best part is, that’s really want (part of) a brain is
Lol the smartest one was the kid haha
Yet so accurate
Something that helps you remember things *
Came here for this! 😍
When he said the wetness was like the consciousness. Man, he’s good. It cleared it up.
it really didn't tho lol. that was just a feel good response but it's a faulty analogy. the dude is a scientist not a philosopher
You can tell how smart he is by how dirty his glasses are...and they're filthy...guy's a genius.
Ooh that makes me a rocket scientist and not someone totally lazy
The eye doctor said that they’ve never seen someone with dirtier glasses than me. Before that made me feel very bad but now I realize it’s just my genius.
i clean mine about every three months
@@doriangrayapologist every three months, just like an oil change
I'm dumb af, as I clean mine multiple times a day.
What’s weird is the brain is trying to map the brain to figure out how it talks to itself. It’s like the ultimate self awareness test
and this is the ultimate comment
I'm a brain in a meat mech reading about you talking our neurons
@dwh absolutely .
That's what I was thinking too!
@dwh You can't be more than matter - we are part of the brain! The conscious part. It's still the brain though! What would a 'person' be if not brain activity?
He's so good at explaining. For each level, he managed to invoke curiosity and conversation without being patronizing.
This video sponsored by the connectome project corp
@@michaelblair5146 good information regardless
@@michaelblair5146 also this video was sponsor by Raid Shadow Legend a amazing mobile game for your mobile device for when you doing stuff in your mobile thing playing mobile games (also by Squarespace)
Repent to Jesus Christ!!!!!!
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
John 3:16 NIV
@@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 I watch your mum repent to me.
Watching his body language throughout the video was so interesting. I love listening to this man talk, he's very passionate and looks genuinely interested in what everyone was saying.
He seems very nice but as a person with social anxiety, this kind of behavior would me feel like running away
@@amdonut8091 that has more to do with you than him then though
@@Pikachu-qr4yb Yes. I would not want to be speaking to him.
Everyone after level one:
"Guys let's put our brain in a computer"
It literally goes from explaining to just basically having a convo about The Connectome, and that's amazing.
I was about to point that out. And maybe that's why I prefer discussions.
ASVP STEWIE underrated comment. this is basically how all higher education works.
ASVP STEWIE I love how at the higher levels the guest starts asking him the questions and makes him question his understanding on how connectomics works and can be used. Also comparing it to a hurricane simulator and wetness was just A+
ASVP STEWIE the point of the video. I'm assuming so?
I think that's the goal of learning - you recieve knowledge and then you think for yourself.
He's absolutely fantastic at explaining it to each person, his entire demeanour changes and he made each person want to learn about it. It was fascinating to watch.
Has anyone seen a difference between student and neuroscience grad student?
what
Elie4Elite he has more focus on the actual simulation and its impacts on the computer and their implications on mankind. This conversation is based on politics and ethics, not just the science
Rebecca Jade, he shall explain it to Trump supporters, not those people. Trump supporters level are usually 99 to infinity.
The subjects shared one characteristic that facilitated his teaching: a willingness to learn. For many topics, the majority lacks this, especially if the knowledge dares to suggest that incredibly complex things are knowable beyond mystical forces, or conflict with their belief in those forces.
Perfect example of Vygotsky’s “more knowledgeable other” when he’s talking to the 5 year old up to the graduate student. Awesome stuff.
Now that’s a name I haven’t heard since college. Isn’t Vygotsky a bit out of fashion these days? I thought he had been replaced by Bakhtin a decade back.
@@luxborealis they don't really talk about him in my degree honestly. He's mentioned but only as an early opposition to piaget, who is still studied heavily as a foundation
as a medical science student that has a specific interest in neuroscience, i want to a have a conversation with this man about the brain. he seems so inviting good at explaining things in non medical terms which i sometimes need
"Why don't you explain this to me like I'm five."
-Michael Scott
Exactly what’s on my mind when I clicked in here lmao
And oscar goes on to explain with chocolate example 😂
I clicked on this video to find this comment. 😂
You’re mommy and daddy give you ten dollars….
Can you break this down into milliseconds? Cause then I’ll multiply it by 100 and that’ll tell me what I’m looking for.
Expert demonstrates the minimal amount of chair that can be used, and still be considered "sitting"
Neuroscientistspreading.
😂😂😂
you win, i literally laughed out loud.
@@sarahf2042 same😂😂
🤣
I like how as we went through the levels not only did the conversation get more in depth but there were more questions asked as well
I'm a firm believer that if you can explain things either at a shallow or deeper level (a.k.a. you can adjust to who you're talking to) and do it excellently, then you're really good at what you do.
welp you just put that teen in existential crisis mode
Best to get it over with early so you can focus on enjoying life on your terms.
@@identiticrisis this shook me
no
the teen didn't understand a word said...
lmao im a college junior and he just put me in an existential crisis 😂
That 5 year old knows what cells are. That's the 2nd most amazing thing I found about the video
Fair point XD
I was on the same page though. I couldn't even spell my name at 5
What was the most amazing thing to you?
Usually little kids remember words, but not always what those words mean. I mean, most 2nd graders probably know the term "photosynthesis" and know it has to do with plants, but probably don't know how it works (or how to spell it XD)
HE'S LYING YOU FUCKING IDIOT
it's funny cuz as the "levels" got higher, I realised I understood less and less as more jargon specific to neuroscience was used. Like when get for to the fellow expert, it almost felt as though they were speaking another language entirely. I enjoyed watching!
I feel like the fatal flaw of a connectome is that it doesn't take into account of neuroplasticity which is a major part of brain function. Just my opinion as a medstudent.
I thought the same thing! I had to search for this comment.
Can you explain neuroplasticity like I'm 5?
@@Qrowzzy Not sure if you still care, but I decided to give it a go:
Neuroplasticity is, at its base level, the ability of the brain to change. Doing something a lot strengthens the connections in the brain, meaning that your brain literally gets better at doing the thing. Similarly, your brain will “prune” connections that aren’t being used because there’s no reason to keep those connections strong. Neuroplasticity is stronger in children and weakens as we age, so that’s why it’s easier for a child to learn something than an adult. It’s also why a lot of the professionals in a field (say, chess or music) started when they were very young-their brains were very flexible and were able to make incredibly strong connections to the parts necessary to play chess or an instrument. It’s relevant to this video because even if you could create a perfect map of a human brain in a computer, it would only be the map of the brain at that one instance in time, and wouldn’t be able to change like our real brains would. I hope that all makes sense.
@@ayj1085 Fellow neuroscience student here, I thought that'd be interesting to say that there was this case of a woman born without a cerebellum, but the neuroplasticity allowed other parts of the brain take over the functions that the cerebellum would typically do, so this woman led a relatively normal life. Pretty neat how the brain can adapt to different stuff!
@@Qrowzzy I understand it's the ability of our brain to learn new things, I read it reduces after you hit 25 or so.
Level 1: lecture
Level 5: test
Most underrated comment ever😂😂
Ikr 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Yess 😂😂
I just like how the college student knows how to bullshit by incorporating what little they know into the topic lol been there done that
PigStuffy77 That looks like me in a professor's office hour....
lmao. 'what words do I know? Microscopy? Yeah that's a word, microscopy'
PigStuffy77 bullshitting got me this far it's getting me through this. that's my mindset
OMG I noticed that too! Computers are "binary" and humans aren't. I'm not certain she knew what binary even meant. Obviously she's not a computer science major.
The Noitall I'm sure she understood what binary is. But she lacks knowledge of how a brain works. I know what binary is, but that talk got me thinking a lot about the answer, before he revealed it. Don't be so quick to judge.
I'm appreciative that most of the guests were against mapping out the brain in order for a.i. to become stronger. Even the expert. That alone should prove there's more to the brain than meets the eye, literally
Literally that wasn't discussed once.
@@Z0mb13ta11ahase It's basically the entire point of mapping the brain. He said it himself, to simulate our brain map into a computer. Its a form of artificial intelligence. It's not organic intelligence....it's artificial.
@@hitermiss986 yes but no guest discussed their view on being for or against it. If so link the timestamp you think is relevant to your comment please.
@@Z0mb13ta11ahase 2:18, 4:03, 5:11, 7:55. What strikes me is it seems like everyone's initial reaction to what he is discussing is automatically opposed to it, not vehemently by any means, but nevertheless. Im sure there were people who first heard about radio that were somewhat opposed lol. It's just human nature to be....human
Yes even I am against it progresse in artificial intelligence is good but upto some extent if Ai increases then we will loose connection with nature
This guy is a great teacher love how positive he is when people don't know something or have differing opinions wish I could speak with him and learn.
The intensity of the headbobbing shows his excitement
phoenixsplash135 ikr I can't even move my head this fast I tried it
I JUST NOTICED THIS, HAHAHAHA
Arvind Sanu 🤣🤣🤣 as an Indian myself I find this so funny and relatable
it's not just the headbobbing, how he's leaning forward and his open posture says so much about how he likes to talk about and explain it to other people
i noticed that, you can tell he loves his field. absolutely adore it.
Please do this interview with a philosophy expert explaining a complex concept
Agreed!
Please!!
I need to see Hegel explained to a 5 year old
fabnsass I was thinking that! This was a huge topic in my philosophy course, and I think a philosophical approach to this question would be even more interesting than a scientific response.
it will be on topic simulation , check out Stephan West podcast Philosophize This
Hey if you ever want a highly intelligent person to explain something to 6 levels of difficulty (6th being an idiot) I am totally up to be the 6th difficulty.
I always like watching these because as the level of understanding or complexity of thought goes up, it becomes more of a conversation rather than just an expert teaching a student. I love when this side of science is shown. It's not just the expert talking.
Mohammad Salah... Top Goalscorer in the EPL and still has time to become a Neuroscientist... WOW
most underrated comment on the internet!
You're a genius 😂😂
Can’t stop laughing! 😂😂😂
If someone explains it I’ll promise I’ll laugh
Looks like Adrien Brody too 😂
Wow, they rebooted Derek so many times that he's smart now.
The good place😂😂
Dying
Nice
Emily H. 😂🤣😂🤣
I love this comment SO MUCH
I love how the last one wasn’t him explaining so much as it was just a conversation between two great minds
So cool to see how well he was able to teach and talk about things even when they knew nothing about it. Keeping them engaged and allowing them to ask questions is a huge part of learning and I’m pretty sure they all left with a bit more knowledge about our brains.
when I saw him talking to the 5 year old, I was like "ugh he does the thing where he leans wayyyy down to talk to kids" and then by the end of the video I'm like "lol no that's just the way he sits in a chair lmao"
HilBG SAME
Some of my teachers tended to crouch down to speak with me when at my desk. I préfered that than thém just standing over me. Made me uncomfortable
........would think most taller things would lean closer to what they are interacting with because of natural reasons. Be like reading a book full arms length away...........
lol
Mentally he viewed them all as childlike in comparison. He leaned back the furthest, with the last person.
Level 6: Neoroscientist explains connectone to a representation of himself
Edit: Didn't expect to get this much attention lol
This should be the first comment under such a video
A representation he himself made would be even cooler :)
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@@jamesdouthit3791 :D
I think level 6 would be explaining it to someone more intelligent than himself. To which, I would ask him, if I made a computer simulation of only your car's engine electrical system would I be able to accurately simulate driving it?
Can this guy do more videos? He seems so down to earth & good at explaining.
This is awesome. It’s great to see the development! Really fantastic explanations and conversations.
grad student: *says something*
Neuroscientist: huh.
Tomelo g\haha I noticed this too.
I think he responded to her that way because he wants her to think about what she is saying.
@@annalecroix305 huh
He's just amazed as how stupid she is for a neuroscience student.
@@DashWatson huh
I fucking love this guy and his bouncy hair
SiamIAm Willis YASSSSSS
Interesting what the entrepreneur was saying about memory. He mentioned LTP and LDP, which are the most widely accepted models, however my professor is looking into alternate models. This is the beauty of science, things get uncovered constantly. There will always be something to learn
I am a prospective neuroscience student that has fibromyalgia, a nervous and autoimmune disorder. I would love to see this concept in motion with a “normal” brain versus a fibromyalgia brain to see if patterns and responses are different.
Now explain this to Joey Tribbiani.
Pratim Shankar who dat
gibillan magnificul watch friends
You just use a sandwich metaphor.
How you doin'
The brain is like pizza. Pepperoni pizza. The pepperoni slices are connected to other slices through the cheese. Now imagine these pepperoni slices can think. And they can also talk to each other through the cheese. Now... Imagine that pizza is your brain Joey. All that you think and feel and want is in that pizza Joey.
Eat the pizza Joey, eat the pizza.
This dude was mad-dogging the grad student hard. Every 'huh' felt like part of his soul left his body.
I would like your comment but it's at 69
Johnny Mar HHAHHAHAHH
😂😂. He was lol
I was kind of disappointed at the grad student. Her understanding seemed a little too basic for someone in grad school. But then I don't know anything about her academic career so any curiosity about her is null.
Social science grad student. "Sounds racist to me"
The conversation between the expert and the Dr was so interesting that I didn’t want the video to end. I could listen to them for hours!
I loved this. What a brilliant example of trying to explain somethings complicated in a simple way and the other way around.
Great job on the presenter side as well. Especially with younger guests.
It’s very hard for people who think and operate on a certain level to switch to a “lower” one. To adapt to a particular level of their corresponder. And that what makes people who can do it great teachers.
5 year old: PURE AWE
13 year old: interest and questioning of the idea
college student: understanding and listening, making connections
grad student: PHILOSOPHY OF HUMAN ETHICS
Entrepreneur: questioning the neuroscientist lol
L 013 *college student: pretentious, arrogant know-it-all mentality, adds nothing to the conversation.
Ciaran When did any of that happen?
Why do you say that girl is arrogant?
That's where the problem lies. Human ethics holding science back. And the government.
Grad student already understands the mechanism and stuff, what else would they talk about
Neuroscientist travels back in time to explain his 5 year old self what a connectome is...
That reminds me of the show Dark!!
@@CeciliaLopez-ce6tc Das Bootstrap Paradoxon!
😅😅😅 I would not be shocked at all. They have the same hair, skin tone and even the same fashion sense.
Raddd. So cool to think about
OMG
I think we’ve genuinely hit a point in science and health education/research that it feels more like anything is possible including something as in depth and in reality a little out of reach as this! I agree with his last statement that it really is incredible
I like how you can watch him get more comfortable as each level goes up
*"-Huh"*
Kiki Lucena translation: You’re wrong.
That level 4 student has no idea what she's on about
The way he says that is really annoying. 😂
the analogy he used afterward was beautiful
Neuroscientists don't think in "right" or "wrong." They just suddenly see the brain do something different. "Huh", is the only proper response.
It amazes me how the 5 year old is so small and adorable yet as he grows older, he will have the potential to gain as much knowledge as the expert. Our brains truly are remarkable
@TRP then why do you assume the kid will have lower iq then the neurologist??
TRP And comments like yours are why we can’t have nice things, like better funded connectome research. lol
I need this guy to explain everything in life to me like he did to the child
This is a brilliant way to teach… building up the concept makes it easier to follow along.
Last level should be a conspiracy theorist who is deathly afraid of AI lol
Rachelle B I too am deathly afraid of AI lol
Lol
@Natalie P guess again
Rachelle B I mean, it is delving into Black Mirror territory!
That's me hahahaha
I'm 2 months old and I thoroughly understand his explanation in all 5 levels of difficulty.
Huh
nice man
😂
I dont exist and can say its ez
I could’ve had a conversation at level 5 if i had simply typed into google “leading research in neural mapping.”
This guy is awesome. It'd be nice to have him around while teaching my apprentice.
Impressed at how you guys find these amazing and humble experts!
I like that he uses the same tone to talk to everyone and also give them space to say what they think about it. Education is not only about knowledge but also about being nice to other people. Great video! 👏
education shows in our actions not on paper
Lol education has nothing to do with being nice ,what has nice has to do education in the first place ?,education it is just about knowledge
@DINKLE BERG of course
@@omzy8700 maybe it's a translation problem, english isn't my first language.
@@kellyiprado
You’re accurate
They need to do this for every concept ever. This should be as prevalent as "react" videos. society needs this.
society needs intelligent discussion instead of basic opinions on entertainment media? agreed 100%.
agreed.
This is just more infotainment don't act like this is something super deep
Troy Bakeman who is saying is super deep? It’s only entertaining, a nice way to learn about what’s going on around the globe, and who knows? Maybe after watching this video someone will study neuroscience. This is way more useful that reaction videos anyway.
Copyright Fine Bros inc.
so glad you guys got to the point of discussing the concept that consciousness extends into the peripheral nervous system. that's still something so powerful for me to think about at this point in my learning. thanks!
Love this series. Please keep doing them, Wired
The Level 5 conversations are always fascinating. I feel like the awkward third wheel in a conversation between geniuses.
They didn't say anything terribly complex outside of using a few words that we could have understood through studying on the subject.
Omg same
you can stop drooling all over yourself...they are no geniuses, just very unwise smart guys who spent too much time in a classroom. zero wisdom here.
the only difference is that they're taking shortcuts with jargon
they basically skip through any explanation. it's pretty awesome and amazing. you realize a lot of speakers are very educated, basically lvl 5 haha.
As we traveled up the ladder i think it became less of an explanation and more of a conversation lol
isn't that logical? The scientist is on lvl 5, so the more the other person knows, the less he would have to explain and instead they can talk on the same *level*
It is logical and happens with most, if not all, of these. Look at the music one for example as it ends in them communicating through music.
I’m a screenwriter and this concept (along with the questions it presents) makes me wonder about the creative process in that a computer with these downloaded connections might be able to arrive at a new idea faster than us- or, it might not be able to generate the new idea at all. I’ve wondered about this seeing as most ideas are made up of information we already possess but have yet to connect. Would a computer with your exact archive of knowledge be able to make the same connections to create your same idea? Would it be able to do it faster as its sole difference is automation?
I'd love to see so much more of this!
4:44 - huh
5:21 - huh
5:31 - huh
6:36 - huh
Utkarsh Pandey 😂😂
Lol 😂
Utkarsh Pandey
This is hilarious when played one after the other:)
This is a great example of being open to learning new information and new ideas.
Wisdom is knowing that there's a lot of information that you don't know. Being an "expert" doesn't mean that you should pretend to know everything, or insist on your believes out of fear of hurting your ego by admitting that you don't know something
8:01 huhuh
Great episode! Can you do more videos but with other professions like electrical engineering, medicine, physics etc..?
I was thinking the same thing. It would be really interesting.
If they're as awesome as him I would love it haha
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Thanks :)
Mihael Namestnik Brbre YESSSSS
Loved the video and the conservations.
Interesting topic
Great first episode of an amazing series 👏💯
"Huh" What he says when he didn't agree with someone
@@cakt15us81 It's passive-aggressive, it's not non-confrontational.
Lmao yep
@@52hello25 Id only call it passive aggressive if the "huh" came out as a small giggle, while the way he says it here is as if he wants the people talking to explain their idea further.
I dunno about that... When the Grad Student said it was important he said "huh" and I'm pretty sure that's a statement he'd agree with
HUHHHHuh
He looks just like you'd imagine a smart nueroscientist looks like 😂
tinmuv the hair is what got me lol
I don't think neuroscientists come in anything other than smart.
"Just because you're smart, you still have to shower AND comb that whatever it is on your head." Einstein, never even knew what a comb was. 😅🧼🚿
@@dustinvanhoose6186 Lol! You can be clean or you can be smart. And I thought it was smart to be clean. And brush my hair. Scientists say: "Nu uh."
I love this type of videos and could follow all the conversations 😍
It's a great explanation and discussion of the connectome, but there's more to consciousness than connectomics. The perfect map of connections would certainly be instrumental (I would even say necessary) to simulating consciousness. But, there's more to the communication than the connection map itself. Different kinds of synapses and receptor sites cause different downstream effects (for instance there are excitatory inhibitory and neuromodulatory neurotransmitters), and there's a substantial body of research on the temporal synchrony of neuronal oscillations as really important signals in terms of both their periodicity and phase. So, while it's true that we most likely need to fully understand the connectome to understand consciousness, there is a LOT of metadata for each of the quadrillions of connections comprising it that we need to tack on before we're anywhere close to simulating even a basic process. If we could simulate perfectly all the information present in a human brain, though, we'd also need to be able to give that simulation accurate inputs to process in order to confirm it. For instance, you'd also need to simulate the output of a human eyeball and feed it to a simulated brain in order to have it create a conscious percept.
Personally, I think rather than trying to do something like a full human connectome, it'd be a more tractable approach to simulate the simplest possible conscious system, say by simulating the the consciousness of a much less complex brain (like a mouse or a dog), then scale that up. But that's not the only advantage to this approach. I would say that, if you can simulate the most basic of consciousnesses and then successfully scale that up, you would have a better understanding of how consciousness arises (what are the laws governing the architecture that produces consciousness). If we had a perfect model of human consciousness, that wouldn't particularly tell us what in the whole simulation produced it any more than an actual human brain does. If looking at a fully simulated brain did produce consciousness, then on some level, we ought to be able to observe it in a physical brain just as well as a simulation.
As a fan of science-fiction, it's frustrating most media only gets to about the level of that 13 year old.
PanicHappy I hear you, good point.
PanicHappy the step after that is someone who studies said subject and since most people haven't studied neuroscience, they have to dumb it down so people understand. You'll be able to find books and TV shows that talk at the level you want, but they won't be very mainstream
PanicHappy Sounds like He was describing half the plot of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
PanicHappy Agreed
pakogana More like the plot of Transcendence
Neuroscientist: “Would a simulated brain be the same as a real brain?”
People: “No, because...”
Neuroscientist: “Wrong.”
Real brain: Dopamine!
Isnt this what we would try to discover by mapping out the brain? Anyway reminds me of the movie Chappie.
@@michaeldamolsen Simulated brain: "class brain {int dopamine=0; int serotonin=0;}"
"Wrong," said the neuroscientist, incorrectly, while stating something objectively false
“If the parts are the same, the whole is the same.”
This is not true, think of polygons, if the parts are the same, they can still differ. But if you map everything perfectly, simulate it all perfectly, I think you could have something that is like yourself. But you also have to admit that our brain is intimately connected with our body. Slight changes in our body produce big changes in our brain. And we also have to say that some of it is inherently random, as most biological processes are. Technically all processes could be considered random if you think of them as the sum total of quantum mechanics interactions.
Consciousness may very well be indescribable, maybe. But can’t science learn it all? After all, that is the basic assumption, that most things can be understood. If things can be understood, it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to say they can be simulated.
Science in general has need of more intermediaries with the speaking and people skills necessary to explain science to non-academics. Many misunderstandings could be cleared up or avoided if there was better communication.
I'v been doing nuro feedback therapy for about 9 months it has changed me in such a good way.
The five year old looks like he’s the Neuroscientist’s son 😂
it's a plot twist 😂😂
The thick plottens
@@sunnyraindrop582 Well, if you check the kid's name and compare it to his, you'll see they're completely different.
He’s a cute little boy.
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10 months without somebody mentioning "that" particular subreddit? Let's go don't ruin this
the 5 year old kid knows about cells already...
I didn't know of that until 5th grade
Same, and even then I didn't get to see a living cell before high school, after that it blew my mind. I think if students are shown what they're learning through an actual microscope sooner rather than in a textbook early on it will make what is a somewhat abstract thought at the time much easier to click.
Daniel Hong lol I'm teaching my sister about cells when she's 4
Daniel Hong
That's Curiosity Dude!
Daniel Hong the future is bright
I don't think you've browsed through the internet enough yet lol.
this is an absolutely fantastic way to learn about a topic
I love that Dr. Kasthuri started to implement the philosophical question with the teenager.