He's easy to play but hard to master. A lot of his "braindead" tools are still easy to deal with and counter, and all of his best tools and flowcharts are still locked behind a skill and execution barrier.
His hellswep has actually been nerfed a lot from Tekken 7 and its one reason why Jins lows in Tekken 8 are noticable weaker as in Tekken 7 and therefor, weaker overall as well
@alexomega1843 huh? Jin has D2, hellsweep AND 1,3 he has more options now and all of them are good. D2 being -14 is insane because only a certain amount of the cast can effectively punish you for it.
@@thedon6572 And all of them are worse as everything he had in Tekken 7. In Tekken 7 you could combo after sweep and also if d/b, 4 counter-hits. This all gone in exchange for d2, which is reactable. He has a way harder time now to open opponments as in Tekken 7 cause of that
I haven’t played DJ since week 2. Every time I fight one I swear they’ve mastered the character. Without fail, I’m getting my jab checks punished by ws2. Watching this intro made me want to start playing him again. Still praying for Heihachi or Jinpachi
I love Jin gamplay. It just looks so damn cool. If I could fight like that IRL, Id just looking for trouble everywhere, enjoying how cool I look like :P Also his style, the pants, the gloves. Peak Fighting Game character
I started using Shaheen when his trailer released for T8. I truly believe that he's strong now thanks to redesign and more importantly the Net Code. I tried to play him in t7 after playing him in T8 and I'm dead serious, I deleted T7 immediately after haha. But, yea. Netcode was the biggest buff Shaheen got in T8(and the Stealth Step command change). Fun Fact for newer Shaheens: He used to have a TRUE Steath Step throw:). The levels of busted he would be in T8 if he had his old SS throw would make Vanilla SF4 Sagat jealous.
@Beforezzz I meant that as in using the characters,jin feels actually practical to use since he's extremely well rounded. Devil jin is very hit or miss,even more so with the coming nerf,plus he trades a lot of necessary things for damage that isn't really that impressive.
As a tekken 7 Jin main the only reason I don’t play Jin as much anymore is that in 7 he felt like a martial artist and in 8 its anime devil moves. But the second I get back in the states im boutta be back on my bullshit
@@d0m0b40eh, df2, D2, zen 2, zen uf1, heat smash, dive kick and all most of these moves are super good and you see them more than karate moves.. Lidia will be the only real karateka
I main Azucena and Drag, but for some reason- Jin made me put them niggas on hold. Mfs say he boring but I’ve always loved his traditional karate style tbh. Integrated w the Mishima electrics. Shit hard. And in T8, this mf bag is deep. I’m exciting to learn wavedashing, just frames, etc. I feel like a mastered Jin is S tier easily and I’d rather that, than just playing a an easy char and getting carried
@@bilbo_gamez6195 I said mastered. That brain dead shit goes out the window at higher ranks. If you feel that a Mastered Jin is easy to play then good for you gang but personally, I don’t feel anyone is easy to play at the highest level.
@@TWill-ph3pt alright that's fair. I'm just tired of people downplaying hin and the fact remains he is the easiest Mishima EVER. If u look at the usage data he has one of the highest pick rates and is around the middle for win rates, might not sound amazing but compare it to Reina who is also picked a lot she is waaaay down the bottom on the wins. In mathematical terms alone Jin is a monster.
@@bilbo_gamez6195 facts. You know what’s funny bro? I’m still tryna find a main😂😂😂 they took my main out the game so shit been rough. I play Bruce and Miguel bro😂 I was on my Jin shit a couple days ago now I’m fuckin w Bryan heavy and I notice an instant difference. Dis mf hard asf to play with. No panic moves fr like Jin but his moveset so addicting and winning w him is rewarding. I fw Jin but it’s just the whole cliche main character shit I can’t get into, not to mention everybody plays this nigga. Ima lock in w Bryan.
All of Jin’s lows are demoralising on hit. It’s what attracted me to Heihachi in ttt2. That feeling of landing that db2 was like none other. If he gets added to this game, I hope he keeps his bb3+4
What defense? He was fuzzy ducking so much that if you were to throw some mids his defense would crumble, he was too afraid of Jin's lows. MainMan kept feeding him the lows and he was always ducking. He had the illusion of good defense when in reality, MainMan didn't adapt fast enough to throw more mids.
31:40 actually, this might not been a plugger. In the recent patch they messed up something and the game can randomly crash on some computers (for example after a heat smash)
You wont go to Paris right away. There will be another tournament between all other winners of that Road to EVO and the winners of those can participate in Paris
@@tek87it's not "barely" reactable. Hellsweep is like 30 frames lmao. And this isn't even the worst thing about it. The actual worst thing is that its unusable in EVERY situation outside of the wall, and even near the wall it tends to whiff. Even in combos it actually fucks up the scaling completely
@@tabkg5802 yeah it is possible to make it a true mixup by delaying it. However both options are pretty slow and if you're doing it out of a blocked omen you open yourself up to eating rage arts
11:37 can somebody please tell me how players do that move with Jin so fast without a low dash? I believe it''s fd 4 to 2 but in the move list the dash (d,fd;f) is a prerequisite to do that?
You mean cd4,2? CD stands for crouchdash, which is f,n,d,DF. You can do the crouchdash so fast it's unseeable, leaving only the kick animation seeable. The longer you hold DF the more seeable the crouchdash becomes. So essentially, you want to input cd quick enough to make it unseeable.
@@vexywexy yeah that's the move, thanks! Rly you can do that that fast!? I thought its onlypossible to do all the cd moves when Jin's eyes flashes red :o that's insane
What the hell is wrong with the jin haters and kazuya meat riders in the comment section?Sure Jin is strong but he doesn't come CLOSE to the characters who are actually a problem like Drag,Feng,Azucena,King,Alisa etc.
if throws lose homing I think nobody will use them (except King), since you can both break and duck them already. I might be wrong of course being a very casual player
Well throws were non existent in T7, and now they wanna bring that back. Honestly if the Tekken community hates throws so much, then Harada just might as well remove them since the way the community wants them balanced is being useless.
@@Mr.SteelinKeepIt yeah I mean they look pretty cool now with the counter-hit property and homing, even pros get hit by them from time to time, so I think they are in a perfect spot that said I am a huge throw game fan, if Drag had gotten a couple more unique throws instead of his hatchet for example I'd be the happiest person alive
Some players have adjusted to the new system better than others, some players are using a character who's moveset benefits more from the "aggression" and are simply imbalanced. You don't lose points till Warrior, less ranks than TK7 and more carry tools that make novice players easier to predict.
Trust me ranked is easy as hell now im fujin as a new player and i only have 1500 matches have some fundamentals and a strong character (i play Jin) and you will beat alot of players in ranked
Most likely yes considering that the game pushes you into reds and kinda even into blues You also have to remember that T7 ranks got bloated af at the end, which made it so a lot of good players were stuck on not so high ranks
Im 100% conviced that the tekken community rn is super toxic, people always complaining about alisa including mainman here. He literaly just made alisa a boss character in that fight, he kept just allowing alisa do this random transitions in which he can just literaly jab out of it and after the 6th launch still keeps doing the 2,1 strings even though hes seen alisa that she will just evade it. That alisa player is doing so much punishable moves and tmm just allowed it. I used to get bodied by alisa too but after labs with her i found out that shes not really that good outside chainsaws in which its also easy to deal with, her keep outs are bad, her pokings are ok and she doesnt really have any good strings. That 2,3, then low kick move string is highly reactable, whenever there is lag immediately duck else just block stand and punish after. Those transition moves she keeps doing pressuring main man, literaly just jab her out of it and if ur steve thats a free counter jab punish. Her chainsaws 90% are highly side step abusable outside of 1 move and the low chainsaw spining move(highly reactable) and you can either jab,d!ckjab or armor move to counter it, literaly just touch her and the chainsaws go away. Her stance where she flies at you also highly side step abused even if she has chainsaws on. TLDR: Before blindly hating, try and lab the character first or play them yourself outside of hwoarang i have no difficulties on labbing characters. I play jack btw and at tekken king atm and tekken 8 is my first tekken game, i cant do kbd yet or wave dash and most of the times im being knowledge checked by veterans playing the game for years and years but that doesnt stoop me so low on randomly hating a character just because i dont know how to deal with them.
They should just revert Omen to how it worked in T6 and Tag 2 with lingering soul transitions and manual control. Just use zen as a buffer here (also old zen cancels)
Coolest and easiest design of Jin they've ever made. I wish he was the strongest in the game so I could see him used more in tournaments. Yall Tekken 7 Jins can keep crying about how he use to be but face the facts that he's more popular and cooler now.
Dude, you haven't played Rank with Jin for a few days, that's why you don't do combos well, but you can still learn with practice, don't worry, no one can stand in front of you, good luck.😊🎉
Alisa is pure bullshit and just a straight up unfair character. The chip damage is just broken, theres no counterplay against her chainsaws, she has one of the best backdashes in the game and is super evasive in general. And even on distance, she can fly across the entire stage to hit you. Alisa is a gag character you can just mash with braindead
@@JustAnte9557 Dude, shut your lousy hating ass up. Really. All you ever seem capable of typing is "Jin bad, Kazuya best" whether it be on TMM's channel or another. Something must genuinely be wrong with your brain.
@@JustAnte9557 And Kazuya isn't? Anyone can 50/50 their opponent to oblivion. All you ever seem capable of typing is "Jin bad, Kazuya best" whether it be on TMM's channel or another. Something must genuinely be wrong with your brain.
So many in the chat attacking Alisa but she isn't that cheap of a character they make her seem. Gotta accept that the player was just good in this case.
@@tabkg5802 that's true and that's practically the way she's meant to be played: either super aggressive to keep up pressure or play some mind games to whiff punish. She lacks defense especially against Jin or Lili, and if they're playing aggressive you're gonna have an hard time winning.
@@hcli6901that's a bad take. Aggressive players need to block duck and low parry too. People can just power crush your bullshit and if the character you are against has evasion it's even worse.
"best tekken ever". 🤣 Someone said that prematurely. Just dont rematch any xiaoyu, alisa, jun, feng. Maybe the green ranks in Tekken king ranks will start changing characters this way if everyone avoids them and the devs might do something. Uts just plain unfun to play against them. No need for defense. Just spam for 60 damage of chip damage where you cant do anything as its all + on block tracking mids, abuse +on block mids with literally full screen range and use panic moves that crush highs, mids and lows.
@@GodKingIsseiso literally every top player who made a tier list on the game is "low rank" and "delusional"? 4headass Jin is mid tier (top 13-15) in this game
Shame he fell into the Jin pit along with the rest it seems. I swear I face this stupid edgelord character almost every other match and now MMS is adding to the ranks 🤮
@@bilbo_gamez6195 I have a strong feeling you get your ass blasted against him online often. And you use your own personal experience to make it seem like you know something the community hasent caught wind of yet lol.
@@Jaebird2 hmmm for some reason my comment was deleted... Anyway I have a strong suspicion you are a Jin main 😂😂. Check the comments plenty of people think the same. People in my discord think the same. Even Swe has said it before. Check the character usage data. He is one of the most used characters for a reason and is still middle of the pack in wins. In maths terms this is huge, the players who are picked most are usually lowest in wins (like Reina being dead last because she is actually a difficult Mishima) and the ones who have the lowest pick rate are usually pretty high up because of matchup knowledge.
It's so funny when TMM talks shit about people playing characters like alisa but it's when someone is doing a defensive option (something he praises Tekken for having) against a dumb string like 2,1,4. You can tell what TMM is going to do this whole video because jin in t8 uses legit 4-5 moves that do everything but it's somehow not uunga. Makes sense (?)
@@tabkg5802 "Your defense is to hold this string and keep taking it until you can back dash back in a game with mediocre bds" man the jin brain rot really runs deep doesn't it.
@@Divin3Valor bro u'r all over the comment section hating on jin get over it alot of characters out there way more broken than jin he's still intermediate and requires execution
I remembre back in the days , mainman would get angry when he lost. Now he’s staying calm and he’s actually congratulating his opponent. He has grown alot since de became a dad 🫱🏽🫲🏾
Bro says Tekken 8 Jin is uninteresting, but plays him as much as Kazuya. No one can resist the Jin stare.
It's that exaggerated swagger of a Mishima that TMM can't resist.
Jin is super boring to me. Haven’t played him since 7 and probably won’t ever.
He does say that Jin was fun to play and wasn't as braindead as he thought he was initially even if he was made easier.
@@ShadowOfMassDestructionyeah he changed his mind, as a Jin main I’m happy to see it, he’s good fun
He's easy to play but hard to master. A lot of his "braindead" tools are still easy to deal with and counter, and all of his best tools and flowcharts are still locked behind a skill and execution barrier.
that slowmo music sync at 11:45 with Steve's 4 into DCK 2 lmfao
Best moment of that match.
Jins hellsweep is so good with his other rush down moves. Dudes a menace to play against
His hellswep has actually been nerfed a lot from Tekken 7 and its one reason why Jins lows in Tekken 8 are noticable weaker as in Tekken 7 and therefor, weaker overall as well
@@Steponmeplease-gy8es dang thats crazy
@alexomega1843 huh? Jin has D2, hellsweep AND 1,3 he has more options now and all of them are good.
D2 being -14 is insane because only a certain amount of the cast can effectively punish you for it.
His hellsweep in this game isn't bad either, the oki he gets is no joke
@@thedon6572 And all of them are worse as everything he had in Tekken 7.
In Tekken 7 you could combo after sweep and also if d/b, 4 counter-hits.
This all gone in exchange for d2, which is reactable.
He has a way harder time now to open opponments as in Tekken 7 cause of that
Damn bro im in the intro. And again GGs was very cool to play against you 👍😁
That duck was glorious
Thank you bro 🤗
I haven’t played DJ since week 2. Every time I fight one I swear they’ve mastered the character. Without fail, I’m getting my jab checks punished by ws2. Watching this intro made me want to start playing him again. Still praying for Heihachi or Jinpachi
You are tough. Good stuff
@@frankspassion Thank you 😁
I love Jin gamplay. It just looks so damn cool. If I could fight like that IRL, Id just looking for trouble everywhere, enjoying how cool I look like :P Also his style, the pants, the gloves. Peak Fighting Game character
Absolutely man
His new animations in T8 are abysmal
@@sakushitsugoda6595 I agree, he was a hell of a lot cooler last game
Damn 2 videos in a span of an hour? Thanks for the sweet content :D
11:48 what a beautiful sequence.
When tmm gives his opponents their flowers its super wholesome
I started using Shaheen when his trailer released for T8. I truly believe that he's strong now thanks to redesign and more importantly the Net Code. I tried to play him in t7 after playing him in T8 and I'm dead serious, I deleted T7 immediately after haha. But, yea. Netcode was the biggest buff Shaheen got in T8(and the Stealth Step command change). Fun Fact for newer Shaheens: He used to have a TRUE Steath Step throw:). The levels of busted he would be in T8 if he had his old SS throw would make Vanilla SF4 Sagat jealous.
That Alisa fight was hilarious, TMM should've just kept spamming the divekick, that guy had no idea what to do against that lol
neither do I tbh
@@Gabi24492sidestep/walk right. It (and many of his options) are super linear
I’ve always thought Devil Jin was cooler but now Jin is starting to grow on me
Devil jin is cool but over edgy and impractical,Jin is cool and practical with the right amount of edgy boy syndrome
@@Ro-fw3lcwtf does practical mean
@@e-agle Guess a more grounded martial artist look. No black wings or dead pale skin and horns.
@Beforezzz I meant that as in using the characters,jin feels actually practical to use since he's extremely well rounded. Devil jin is very hit or miss,even more so with the coming nerf,plus he trades a lot of necessary things for damage that isn't really that impressive.
@@Ro-fw3lcthats the point, hence the word “devil” in devil jin 😂
12:07
Jin starts to believe in his heart.
Jin is only missing a pride flag now
The unlocking of Omni almighty Jin nice playlist man didn’t know god of tekken still around
Mainman is a sussy Tsundere when he plays Jin
As a tekken 7 Jin main the only reason I don’t play Jin as much anymore is that in 7 he felt like a martial artist and in 8 its anime devil moves.
But the second I get back in the states im boutta be back on my bullshit
I mean he only has a handful of devil esque moves the rest is largely karate
@@d0m0b40eh, df2, D2, zen 2, zen uf1, heat smash, dive kick and all most of these moves are super good and you see them more than karate moves..
Lidia will be the only real karateka
@@d0m0b40 come on man, you know that mf flashing red like he low on health
Youre missing out. He's still amazing to play. We can spar
@@frankspassion I can’t spar with no one till I get back in country
I main Azucena and Drag, but for some reason- Jin made me put them niggas on hold. Mfs say he boring but I’ve always loved his traditional karate style tbh. Integrated w the Mishima electrics. Shit hard. And in T8, this mf bag is deep. I’m exciting to learn wavedashing, just frames, etc. I feel like a mastered Jin is S tier easily and I’d rather that, than just playing a an easy char and getting carried
Broski... Jin is easy af to play lol
@@bilbo_gamez6195 I said mastered. That brain dead shit goes out the window at higher ranks. If you feel that a Mastered Jin is easy to play then good for you gang but personally, I don’t feel anyone is easy to play at the highest level.
@@TWill-ph3pt alright that's fair. I'm just tired of people downplaying hin and the fact remains he is the easiest Mishima EVER. If u look at the usage data he has one of the highest pick rates and is around the middle for win rates, might not sound amazing but compare it to Reina who is also picked a lot she is waaaay down the bottom on the wins. In mathematical terms alone Jin is a monster.
@@bilbo_gamez6195 facts. You know what’s funny bro? I’m still tryna find a main😂😂😂 they took my main out the game so shit been rough. I play Bruce and Miguel bro😂 I was on my Jin shit a couple days ago now I’m fuckin w Bryan heavy and I notice an instant difference. Dis mf hard asf to play with. No panic moves fr like Jin but his moveset so addicting and winning w him is rewarding. I fw Jin but it’s just the whole cliche main character shit I can’t get into, not to mention everybody plays this nigga. Ima lock in w Bryan.
Bryan actually feels like real tekken
When I heard the music of when kaz killed jinpachi I started laughing to my self 😂
The music in those Tekken 5 endings low-key smack, especially the bgm in Hwoarang's ending.
Devilster probably said Masku! while watching this
All of Jin’s lows are demoralising on hit. It’s what attracted me to Heihachi in ttt2. That feeling of landing that db2 was like none other. If he gets added to this game, I hope he keeps his bb3+4
Nostalgia Tekken 5 music in the back
Hwoarang with a Good defense what a nightmare 😂
What defense? He was fuzzy ducking so much that if you were to throw some mids his defense would crumble, he was too afraid of Jin's lows.
MainMan kept feeding him the lows and he was always ducking. He had the illusion of good defense when in reality, MainMan didn't adapt fast enough to throw more mids.
Ngl this is my favorite intro in CZcams now😂😂😂
Saw it? Bro I damn near felt it 😂😂😂
What’s the name of the song playing during the first set against Hwaorang?
sky rocket is such an insane oki move
Nice damage on alisa LOL. you do 20 damage catching her and floating with precision and she does 80 dmg on block
31:40 actually, this might not been a plugger. In the recent patch they messed up something and the game can randomly crash on some computers (for example after a heat smash)
Jin THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME Kazama!
"THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME" is a funny way of spelling Kazuya 😂
@@nelobreeze5425SO TRUE
@@nelobreeze5425My boy Kazuya will always be on top
what's the song at djin match after t3 king's ending?
Jin is the GOAT.
swee needs to learn unreactible omen wall ground setups
whats the tekken OST playing at 8:55
the steve match
1:37 sums up tekken 8 lmao
poolside ost classic🙌
i just won road to evooooooooo, on ps5, i should go to paris to play the finals!!
What was the gift?
You wont go to Paris right away. There will be another tournament between all other winners of that Road to EVO and the winners of those can participate in Paris
Jin really does need his omen buffed
It doesn't really. its just barely reactable. You have to train to block it on reaction consistently.
@@tek87its not about the mixup itself. It's about how the mixup is not very practical to land anywhere outside of wall
@@tek87it's not "barely" reactable. Hellsweep is like 30 frames lmao. And this isn't even the worst thing about it. The actual worst thing is that its unusable in EVERY situation outside of the wall, and even near the wall it tends to whiff. Even in combos it actually fucks up the scaling completely
@@edgelord121it's also about the mix. Only way to make it usable is by going for delayed hellsweep which is only available when you hit the omen
@@tabkg5802 yeah it is possible to make it a true mixup by delaying it. However both options are pretty slow and if you're doing it out of a blocked omen you open yourself up to eating rage arts
Waiting for mainman to bring but his D Jin
22:13
^ The type of people who play for a week and say "Tekken is easy"
Son of Masku is actually a god level title cos it sounds like it’s based on the trainwreck sequel to the Jim Carey movie
no Swe, you are MASKU
He knows that, he's talking about Jin
Jin is insane
I really Liked the hworang player
CHESTO!
This is why law mostly wins against alisa players, just press 1+2 when they like to do their hidden stance
Does anyone know the song playing at 13:25 much appreciated
TMM trying to do what devilster did to him but failed 😂
4:00 that should work if you microdash
If he practices he could put up a great Jin
11:37 can somebody please tell me how players do that move with Jin so fast without a low dash? I believe it''s fd 4 to 2 but in the move list the dash (d,fd;f) is a prerequisite to do that?
You mean cd4,2? CD stands for crouchdash, which is f,n,d,DF. You can do the crouchdash so fast it's unseeable, leaving only the kick animation seeable. The longer you hold DF the more seeable the crouchdash becomes. So essentially, you want to input cd quick enough to make it unseeable.
@@vexywexy yeah that's the move, thanks! Rly you can do that that fast!? I thought its onlypossible to do all the cd moves when Jin's eyes flashes red :o that's insane
People say Jin is so easy to play in T8.
Me, a Jin main ever since T3: “Why is he much harder to play now than in T7?”.
does mainman still play on stick?
What the hell is wrong with the jin haters and kazuya meat riders in the comment section?Sure Jin is strong but he doesn't come CLOSE to the characters who are actually a problem like Drag,Feng,Azucena,King,Alisa etc.
This is why I dislike other Kazuya mains man we meatride our Character way too much
Still easiest and most braindead Mishima ever. (reina is not Mishima)
That's Kaz fans for you lol
@@tabkg5802problem?
@@kato093how is she not a Mishima
if throws lose homing I think nobody will use them (except King), since you can both break and duck them already. I might be wrong of course being a very casual player
Well throws were non existent in T7, and now they wanna bring that back.
Honestly if the Tekken community hates throws so much, then Harada just might as well remove them since the way the community wants them balanced is being useless.
@@Mr.SteelinKeepIt yeah I mean they look pretty cool now with the counter-hit property and homing, even pros get hit by them from time to time, so I think they are in a perfect spot
that said I am a huge throw game fan, if Drag had gotten a couple more unique throws instead of his hatchet for example I'd be the happiest person alive
any good jin player that wouild help me with coaching ? Switched to Stick and went from Kishin doown to Flame Ruler
Why did you switch? Like if you played pad or leverless there isn't much reason to switch, unless you just want to do it for fun
@@tabkg5802 Yeah there is a fun Reason behind it. And i know that the muscle Memory is missing and that it comes from practice and playing
Isn't stick much more suitable and comfy? Never had that much comfort in keyboard and pad
@@SesoKoza-ut4bd no. It may be for you but that's cause you already have experience with it. Stick is the single most uncomfortable input device
Dang really think jin is the best among the mishimas. Good mids and parry to counter rushdowns
Does anyone know the song in the Devil Jin match? 14:40
It's the king theme of Tekken 3 (arcade version)
@@pepeelmago6312 nice, thank you!
Why don't you do the masku tech after df3?
Because its unsafe. TMM plays JIn very safe and this ranks, its better indeed I guess
@@Alex-Omega isn't it guaranteed when opponent is knocked down?
@@meysamsamadi7587 Only if he stays down.If you quick stand, you can block.
d4 is the only guaranted one and he mostly goes for this
@@Alex-Omega good to know. Thanks 👍
Ecd1 is unsafe unlike the steel pedal
Does jin take steroids or is it just that devil gene
Nobody blocks low at all.
how is this possible that he's 38 and looking like freaking 20
Is it just me or did ranked actually became easier? No way i deserve being Raijin when i was struggling to stay in purple territory with T7.
It's now more prowness based
Some players have adjusted to the new system better than others, some players are using a character who's moveset benefits more from the "aggression" and are simply imbalanced. You don't lose points till Warrior, less ranks than TK7 and more carry tools that make novice players easier to predict.
Trust me ranked is easy as hell now im fujin as a new player and i only have 1500 matches have some fundamentals and a strong character (i play Jin) and you will beat alot of players in ranked
Most likely yes considering that the game pushes you into reds and kinda even into blues
You also have to remember that T7 ranks got bloated af at the end, which made it so a lot of good players were stuck on not so high ranks
I’m fujin reina , back in t7 i was struggling to get out of expert and initiate Lmao
You should play Steve so you can hate life
Im 100% conviced that the tekken community rn is super toxic, people always complaining about alisa including mainman here. He literaly just made alisa a boss character in that fight, he kept just allowing alisa do this random transitions in which he can just literaly jab out of it and after the 6th launch still keeps doing the 2,1 strings even though hes seen alisa that she will just evade it. That alisa player is doing so much punishable moves and tmm just allowed it.
I used to get bodied by alisa too but after labs with her i found out that shes not really that good outside chainsaws in which its also easy to deal with, her keep outs are bad, her pokings are ok and she doesnt really have any good strings.
That 2,3, then low kick move string is highly reactable, whenever there is lag immediately duck else just block stand and punish after.
Those transition moves she keeps doing pressuring main man, literaly just jab her out of it and if ur steve thats a free counter jab punish.
Her chainsaws 90% are highly side step abusable outside of 1 move and the low chainsaw spining move(highly reactable) and you can either jab,d!ckjab or armor move to counter it, literaly just touch her and the chainsaws go away.
Her stance where she flies at you also highly side step abused even if she has chainsaws on.
TLDR: Before blindly hating, try and lab the character first or play them yourself outside of hwoarang i have no difficulties on labbing characters.
I play jack btw and at tekken king atm and tekken 8 is my first tekken game, i cant do kbd yet or wave dash and most of the times im being knowledge checked by veterans playing the game for years and years but that doesnt stoop me so low on randomly hating a character just because i dont know how to deal with them.
Sonofmasku is my tekken name and twitch.
Can Jin atleast get some buffs to Omen Stance in heat?
Yoshimitsu's flash being the way it is compared to Omen stances just criminal
They should just revert Omen to how it worked in T6 and Tag 2 with lingering soul transitions and manual control. Just use zen as a buffer here (also old zen cancels)
Coolest and easiest design of Jin they've ever made. I wish he was the strongest in the game so I could see him used more in tournaments. Yall Tekken 7 Jins can keep crying about how he use to be but face the facts that he's more popular and cooler now.
At this point just pick up lars or feng, i see no difference between them and jin..
Carried more than wall carry on Nina's butterfly loops
I don’t hate Alisa, in fact I hate players who spam with Alisa especially during that match.
The 11:50 music LMAO
Jin will always be better than devil jin. Not even a question
Dude, you haven't played Rank with Jin for a few days, that's why you don't do combos well, but you can still learn with practice, don't worry, no one can stand in front of you, good luck.😊🎉
Alisa is pure bullshit and just a straight up unfair character. The chip damage is just broken, theres no counterplay against her chainsaws, she has one of the best backdashes in the game and is super evasive in general. And even on distance, she can fly across the entire stage to hit you.
Alisa is a gag character you can just mash with braindead
I tried playing Jin but not for me 😢
Mash F4, 21, and dive kick at range 11..
He's for everyone, trust
@@JustAnte9557 Try that and see how far you will come with it
@@Alex-Omega my main is kazuya, which means i can reach Tekken god with both Reina and Jin, half-heartedly..
@@JustAnte9557 Dude, shut your lousy hating ass up. Really. All you ever seem capable of typing is "Jin bad, Kazuya best" whether it be on TMM's channel or another. Something must genuinely be wrong with your brain.
@@JustAnte9557 And Kazuya isn't? Anyone can 50/50 their opponent to oblivion. All you ever seem capable of typing is "Jin bad, Kazuya best" whether it be on TMM's channel or another. Something must genuinely be wrong with your brain.
Jin Armor out of stance is so ass!
pls show somethimes your win ratio online
I'd hate to be the controller that belongs to a "high rank" Alisa. Those poor buttons.
That Alisa 😂🤣😂🤣 terrible player no defence whatsoever just mash mash mash absolute garbage
So many in the chat attacking Alisa but she isn't that cheap of a character they make her seem.
Gotta accept that the player was just good in this case.
Really they be fuming hard
She literally didn't block once
She’s cheaper than they make her seem. Even with all the hate she gets it’s somehow still underselling how bullshit she is.
@@tabkg5802 that's true and that's practically the way she's meant to be played: either super aggressive to keep up pressure or play some mind games to whiff punish. She lacks defense especially against Jin or Lili, and if they're playing aggressive you're gonna have an hard time winning.
@@hcli6901that's a bad take. Aggressive players need to block duck and low parry too. People can just power crush your bullshit and if the character you are against has evasion it's even worse.
"best tekken ever". 🤣
Someone said that prematurely.
Just dont rematch any xiaoyu, alisa, jun, feng. Maybe the green ranks in Tekken king ranks will start changing characters this way if everyone avoids them and the devs might do something.
Uts just plain unfun to play against them. No need for defense. Just spam for 60 damage of chip damage where you cant do anything as its all + on block tracking mids, abuse +on block mids with literally full screen range and use panic moves that crush highs, mids and lows.
If Jin Didn't have a trash heat state he would be close to S
If you think Jin isn't S tier you're delusional or low rank.
Jin is def S Tier imo
Jin is lower 15
These delusional people putting Jin with people like Feng is crazy
@@GodKingIsseiso literally every top player who made a tier list on the game is "low rank" and "delusional"? 4headass Jin is mid tier (top 13-15) in this game
what the fuck is a masku
please support me
Why waste time playing braindead top tier like jin? Meeeeeeh
Shame he fell into the Jin pit along with the rest it seems. I swear I face this stupid edgelord character almost every other match and now MMS is adding to the ranks 🤮
Jin's cool! He is an edgelord though. Who do you play?
@@ThePlKLEsadly my allegiance is to Steve Fox
@@Flintc08 eeyyy! I too am a steve main! I disagree with you on jin, but we are brothers where it counts
For real, but I'd rather face edge lord Jin than edge lord diet Heihachi (Reina).
So are we allowed to talk about how broken Jin is yet or are the Mishima simps going to jump down my throat? Lol
You genuinely think he’s super broken?
@@Jaebird2 not super broken... but I know for a fact you were just about to come in here and downplay how strong he is lol
@@bilbo_gamez6195 I have a strong feeling you get your ass blasted against him online often. And you use your own personal experience to make it seem like you know something the community hasent caught wind of yet lol.
@@Jaebird2 hmmm for some reason my comment was deleted...
Anyway I have a strong suspicion you are a Jin main 😂😂. Check the comments plenty of people think the same. People in my discord think the same. Even Swe has said it before. Check the character usage data. He is one of the most used characters for a reason and is still middle of the pack in wins. In maths terms this is huge, the players who are picked most are usually lowest in wins (like Reina being dead last because she is actually a difficult Mishima) and the ones who have the lowest pick rate are usually pretty high up because of matchup knowledge.
It's so funny when TMM talks shit about people playing characters like alisa but it's when someone is doing a defensive option (something he praises Tekken for having) against a dumb string like 2,1,4. You can tell what TMM is going to do this whole video because jin in t8 uses legit 4-5 moves that do everything but it's somehow not uunga. Makes sense (?)
Defense against 2-1-4 is to block and backdash lol
@@tabkg5802 "Your defense is to hold this string and keep taking it until you can back dash back in a game with mediocre bds" man the jin brain rot really runs deep doesn't it.
@@evangel1460
>brainrot
>complains about having to do basic defensive option on a -3 string
womp womp
@@tabkg5802 My point is proven. Nice green text arrows on CZcams btw 💀💀💀
Jin is cheap
Cry about it
May I ask who's ur main
@@FuJin974He is cheap though
He is very much so (I main Steve Fox so don’t even try it)
@@Divin3Valor bro u'r all over the comment section hating on jin get over it alot of characters out there way more broken than jin he's still intermediate and requires execution
Jin mains are failed kazuyas, they can't use a mishima that actually requires real skills
Oh look it's one of the Kazuya meat riders. Get Jin to Tekken King, tell me how well it works out once you're done.
All I hear is mmhmm kazuya gogh gogh gogh gogh 😮
Not true, I had to play Jin in 3 cause they killed him
One tool you never use from jin, mainman.
*HopKicku*
I remembre back in the days , mainman would get angry when he lost. Now he’s staying calm and he’s actually congratulating his opponent. He has grown alot since de became a dad 🫱🏽🫲🏾
CHESTO!
CHESTO!
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