The Saga of the new Steven Wilson industry?
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- čas přidán 20. 04. 2024
- In this episode, Tony ponders the existence of a market for remixes of records conceived of and released decades earlier.
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I think Wilson is a perfectionist, he's said so himself. I think he will gladly remaster and re-mix older works that he loves to suit his tastes. There are also musicians coming to Wilson asking him to remaster some of their records since he is an amazing producer. Remixing or remastering doesn't need to change the music, it might be just improving the vision that the artist already had at the time, but couldn't do due to technical or knowledge limitations couldn't fulfill. Imagine a band with 10-20 live albums with many songs overlapping, you tend to find a favorite one. For example, most songs of the Fear of a Blank Planet album are for many fans best on the Anesthetize live Album, even though its the same songs they are performed differently.
no doubt SW is a genius. there must a market for it. good for him.
thanks for watching..Tony.
Totally see your point. But some remasters sound incredible. So for good Hi Fi equipment, the playback can be more enjoyable. I'm sure the artist has to sign off on it. Because obviosly, as you well know, the person needs access to the old analog tapes. I half agree with you. But I haven't heard all of them. I'll say this, the Remix of Jethro Tull's "This Was" album sounds incredible.
Hello. I understand what you're saying. I've asked myself the same question for some time. But then I understood.
Have you heard Yes, close to the edge? I like the Steven Wilson remix.
Have you heard James Guthrie 2018 remix of Floyd Animals? I never want to hear the original version again. Master job.
Some masterings and remixes they are doing now are much better than the original and that is good in my point of view. Peace ;)
maybe i need to wander out of my comfort zone and see it as in addition to the original rather than in the place of...thanks for the comment.. i have heard close to the edge in fact, there's no doubt he's regained the space and added but to me then is it still close to the edge? not a big Floyd head but ill check it out, no doubt that one and final cut are maudlin flavored syrup.. always sounded crowded...
thanks..good comment...Tony
I think that in the case of Steven Wilson he has remixed several records, all from different artist and from different genres and that somewhat tells you that he's an explorer and digs deep on music and loves that part of it.
In his case, all the remixes have been grounded using the original mix as a baseline ALWAYS and he starts from there. Of course he will bring the bass a little up on the mix (See the case with Gentle Giant, Ray´s baselines barely made an impression on the original mixes) or maybe you can hear the piano a little better on some sections (see Guns N Roses November Rain 2022 Remix) but it's not like he comes and does whatever he likes and off he goes to destroy another classic record.
If people like Ian Anderson (who has took care of Jethro Tull's catalogue for several years) opened the chance to do something interesting with Jethro Tull, it tells you that artists trust him on the remixing process. Even more so with cases like Robert Fripp (allowed Wilson to remix all King Crimson catalogue, with the assistance of David Singleton at times of course).
Even in some cases (See the Deluxe Edition of Marillion's Misplaced Childhood) he refused to touch the original mix because for him it was perfect, and rather just worked on a Multichannel remix. Same case happened when Tears for Fears reach him with the choice of remixing The Seeds of Love.
And I agree to this, because since his name carries a lot of weight in the Audiophile community, and in the circles of music enthusiasts its surely brings fantastic artists/musicians/bands to a new era and back to the spotlight. Believe it or not, it was his name that brought my attention to get a Gentle Giant's Free Hand, or Marillion's Brave and Yes Close to the Edge.
You should really try to listen some of his work as a performer/composer/artist and then his remixes, you will notice an amazing quality in everything he brings to the table.
Porcupine Tree
Time Files
The Rest Will Flow
Lazarus
Open Car
As part of Blackfield
Blackfield
My Gift Of Silence
Pain
End of the World
As solo artist
The whole The Raven That Refused to Sing album
The whole HandCannotErase album
Postcards
Pariah
Refugee
As a producer
Opeth Damnation and Blackwater Park
Remixes
Yes Close to the Edge
Jethro Tull Aqualung
King Crimson, In The Court of the Crimson King 2019
XTC Skylarking
Chicago Chicago II
Caravan In the Land of Grey and Pink
i agree, i understand -im just surprised the market is so large for this....thanks for the comment...tony
In part it is often because he is asked to do it by the original artist (or their record company) who maybe wants to squeeze out some more money out of their back catalogue. Steven also is an expert in creating 3D mixes which were not technically possible at the time these albums were produced. I don’t think that Steven is actively promoting them as his own work? He is facilitating the transfer of old recordings into what is a massively changed medium and I am certain that in pretty much every case his versions have to be signed off by the original artist or their representatives so why hate on Steven who is simply selling a pretty excellent service to them.
yep but sometimes the producer at the time was crap! basically every Yes album ever! If you get another shot, go for it!
as the years go by there's always new tools!!!...that thing they used on the Beatles to separate tracks is bonkers!! --good point...thanks for listening Tony