Physical Media Isn't Dying. It's Evolving.
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- čas přidán 11. 11. 2023
- The Rumours of Physical Media's Demise have been greatly exaggerated. Join me as I discuss why Physical Media is here to stay and how it will survive the future.
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there are still problems of watching movies online such as internet connections messing with the quality to subscriptions unnecessarily removing movies and shows for the most ridiculous of reasons. so having any physical media being played offline without interruptions still has a place in the entertainment industry.
It’s my favourite thing about it. Plays perfectly every time with no issue.
@@BraveBladeProductions exactly and I use to think it was kind of dumb at first until companies like Disney, amazon and HBO started to screw things up. It can be REALLY annoying too if you are hanging out with friends and family with mid or bad internet connection.
I completely agree. The market is shifting, but it is absolutely not dying. Like you said, Vinyl is very popular for music fans despite being a very old technology, so Blu-Ray just fills the same role for movie fans. I also think the current bad state of streaming has made more people pivot to physical media to watch the content they want.
Physical Media will always be an integral part of the entertainment medium.
@@BraveBladeProductions yeah we don't need streaming service, especially streaming tv!
I agree with more people dropping streaming for physical. I've done it myself and never looked back.
I don't see many people buying blu-rays like they are vinyl. Yes there's an uptake but not a big one. Me I never stopped buying physical media.
I’ve just gone back to building a Blu-ray collection. A month without an internet connection really opened my eyes to the problem of relying on streaming services.
Totally agree that mass market consumer doesn't understand that physical media has a big market with collectors like you and me. Not dying, evolving.
It’s collectors like you and me that keep the format alive.
"physical media isn't dying, it's evolving". What a perfect way to say it, cheers mate. great video
Thanks mate.
A major part of the problem is the crappy economy that we are faced with right now. Most people aren’t gonna buy movies, or even go to the movies when they’re struggling to put food on the table and pay either rent or mortgage.
Not to mention that most movies and TV shows coming out now haven’t even been worth free admission.
You make a very good point.
@@BraveBladeProductions I also forgot to mention that the sales of Oppenheimer on Blu-ray and 4k clearly show that when a film is truly good people will and I mean WILL buy it! Like the movie field of dreams said “If you build it they will come.”
I have just left streaming to physical media. Some really good movies are lost to licensing in streaming platforms. Audiences may not ever get to see these great movies ever again. This is really absurd!
And you get to enjoy the highest quality.
in norway, where I live, there's basically just one store that's sell Physical Media (DVD/Blu-ray) and I always take advantage of their sales/Discounts, just recently they had 10 for $60, its great for me that has just started a collection
Now that's a deal!
Speaking as someone who works for JB Hi-Fi, I can tell you that the lack of availability of physical media is not on us. If we can get it, we'll get it. The problem is the distributors. Thankfully, while Sony is no longer distributing Universal releases, All Interactive has stepped in and they are looking to do the same with Disney, at least for older titles in order to keep then available for the fans. There are a lot of titles that should be available now though that have been deleted and are now exclusive to streaming. Hopefully we will see more companies like All Interactive, Umbrella and Madman (who have really stepped up recently when it comes to acquiring distribution rights to films) cropping up to fill the void. Having recently been to England, it was really cool seeing all these other boutique companies with so many releases, I hope that we can get some of those titles available in Australia as well. I think we need more boutique distribution companies that are willing to go the extra mile to not only keep these films out there but to give the fans the best possible experiences.
Awesome to get an insider's perspective! JB is probably the biggest supporter of Physical Media in Australia right now so keep up the great work!
Without going into a long winded “yes, I continue to collect physical media, yada, yada, yada…” as a very recent example, I decided to bite the bullet on trying to collect the main titles of Hammer Horror (UK production house, who reimagined the Gothic horror for contemporary audiences) and between JB Hi-Fi, Amazon US & UK I have been able to assemble pretty much an entire run of Hammer titles in a very short space of time. Every title has a recent physical Blu-Ray release (and if we were to rely on mainstream studios, some of these very obscure titles wouldn’t see the light of day). No, physical media isn’t dead, much like vinyl, studios & manufacturers have moved physical media into the collector market. It’s been this way for a few years now & it’s the niche boutique manufacturers that can capitalise on this collector desire who will continue to best derive this need. 🎞️
Exactly. Just because department stores don’t have a DVD or Blu Ray shelf anymore doesn’t mean that Physical Media isn’t available anymore.
I started my Blu-ray collection in 2023. And ever since I owned my first Blu-ray, I’ve been obsessed with expanding it. I own 7 4K UHDS so far. But to hear that Physical media is dying, really breaks my heart. I really hope the day doesn’t come, so I can keep collecting.
The picture quality is the real deal. I wouldn’t worry you’ll have plenty of time to collect all of your favourite movies.
im 13 and i also started my dvd collection
@@chungus127 DvD or Blu-ray?
@@EJP3076 Started my collection rather recently, in 2022. I now have 27 4K discs. I'm adding about 7 or 9 more to my collection soon.
It is evolving, but it feels like collectors will have to pay a premium price since they are producing less batches.
True, but it’s better than having nothing at all.
I have bought more new releases in the past 2 years than in the 10 years before that. It is a fantastic time to be a fan of owning films
They are easier to get now more than ever!
I think it's cool to be a part of a collector community. Physical media plus streaming is the best combination to get access to exactly what you want and more access to things you don't want to buy.
Great take!
It's also a good time to scoop up used and after market blurays cheaply. There is a century of film to discover and I suspect most of the films I will love in the future have already been printed on bluray in the past.
Great advice.
Books still exist, and thank the gods for that.
Books are the supreme king of physical media.
lol I'm left with NOTHING but buying online and i live in the United States! All I have is the overpriced Barnes & Noble book store and F that. I wish i had a selection like that store you have but i dunno their prices. The people who think that physical media is dying is obviously not buying in the right places. Enjoyed the video!
Sorry to hear. Glad you enjoyed the video tho.
@@BraveBladeProductions
Yeah it's actually refreshing to see a physical media video that makes more sense! 👍
I Believe it's evolving as well. Physical Media will always matter.
Movies, TV Shows, Music and Video Games.
I will will continue to support Physical Media.
💿💿📀📀
Nothing like having a disc in a plastic case.
I love physical media because the movie is all yours and when you watch a movie on streaming and the movie ends up being gone forever there’s noting you can do about it just like Christopher Nolan said streaming a movie is like broadcasting a movie so I would rather buy physical media
Always nice to know I’ll never lose my movies.
I agree with you, however I've noticed the prices for physical media going through the roof. A 4K will now cost you $29 USD. That's insane prices. Their greed is going to kill physical media if anything does.
Rising prices are a big problem.
Somehow CZcams sent me your way. It's hurting me to see physical media going down 😅😢
It’s not going down, just changing.
I know this mostly focused on movies but I’m getting worried about the state of physical video games. Just recently, Microsoft fired the people responsible for making Xbox games physical. I know there are companies that do make digital games physical but that’s usually reserved for indie games. While physical media for movies might be evolving, I think physical games are dying off unless Limited Run gets their hands on it.
It’s a real shame, I should make a follow up video for games.
As a Brit I feel bad for Australian physical media collectors as it seems much harder to buy the films you want.
Also I thought that the WandaVision steel book didn’t actually have the episodes on them. And I didn’t know they were releasing The Mandolorian & Loki on steelbooks
We still have it pretty good here, we just have less options for buying movies. That WandaVisiom steel book you’re talking about is an older third party thing.
We can still buy online fairly well. Even Disney titles.
All the UK releases of those titles are 4K and BluRay in one fantastic steelbook.
Physical Media becames Collectors Market ---> More Collectors apper ---> becames a Massive Market for the massises ---> Market goes down ---> Physical Media becames Collector Market
It is a Cycle that I feel like is going to repeat for the rest of Time
That’s usually how things go down.
@@BraveBladeProductions Yeah
as a CD collector, JBHIFI is literally the GOAT!!!!!! though, i always look in the CD sections in OpShops - found my DAMN. by Kendrick Lamar CD in one and its still my favourite thrifting find ever
JBHIFI is goated for sure. Op Shops are great too, love going in and finding Blu Rays for a buck or two.
Netflix always always sucked bad for films, it excels for TV shows but the movie selection on streaming platforms is terrible. The Criterion Channels only exists in the US so can't comment on that. Vinyl has always been more than just the actuall listening experience.
You can still watch Criterion Channel worldwide. You have to sign up in the US region though.
Also like at 5:00 Disney also just announced season 1 of Andor, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Moon Knight, and Falcon and the Winter Solder! It continues!
Exactly.
Yes because more and more classic movies are being released in 4k People are waking up .I notice that panasonic ub820 players are selling more and more on amazon. This must be a good sign. Perhaps other manufacturers like jvc will now get on board
4K is absolutely the reason to get into Physical Media the quality is unbelievable.
Perhaps for music and movie collectors it's not quite as bleak (good for you, lads!), but for video game collectors some big game releases are already not going to see a physical release, probably ever.
Collectors editions and steelbooks kinda suck, but at least it's something
Video games have it bad for sure unfortunately.
JB HiFi are absolute legends - they consistently have amazing sales events, that offer true discounts you can't find anywhere else.
As a movie collector, I am now buying most of my discs from boutique eBay stores in the UK and USA, like Rarewaves - their prices aren't too bad, considering exchange rates.
I am holding out hope that if Bob Iger and the entire Disney board can be removed and replaced with new people who understand the movie business from a traditional sense, that the decision to stop selling physical media in Australia, can be reversed. I suspect that some dickh%*d at Disney thinks that restricting physical media sales will mean more subscribers for Disney+. I also suspect that they are using Australia & New Zealand as an experiment.
Luckily at the moment, most new movies coming from Disney are all garbage - so were not missing out on much, for now. However, it worries me that Disney owns 20th Century Fox. That is a huge asset they have done nothing with. Imagine all the classic titles that could be turned into 4K physical media.
Yeah, I actually think it’s a good thing movies like Dial of Destiny aren’t getting an Aussie release lol. Also JB has 30% off DVDs and Blu Rays right now, jump on it.
It sucks that some properties of the 20th Century Fox brand is locked in some film vault that no one has access to except the companies whom purchased and acquired them in the past. It's like Disney not caring for Touchstone Pictures, and look how that ended up. It really does suck, which is why I've turned away from Disney to look at other independent/other film studios that do give a shit about physical media as much as still being able to have digital rips or torrents online for those whom can't afford to buy the physical medium itself.
I absolutely agree with your Aus/NZ experiment comment. Hopefully they backflip soon. Also agree that JB is amazing. I appreciate JB even more after recently visiting Europe and seeing how much 4ks go for there - its crazy. $40-60 AUD for a standard movie at places like HMV where as I'd be looking at $15 average at JB because everything is almost always on sale...
Ocpcommunications has a similar view on physical media
Good to know!
I said a while ago that it is the distribution model that is changing.
Exactly.
all studios (and i really mean ALL) ended physical media distribution in my country since 2018, including syuting down their online store. but as of today, i still buy VCD and its the predecessor to DVD. so these 5in silvery discs wont go away anytime soon 😊
That sucks, glad to hear you are still buying though.
I've only recently realized that I have to start buying physical media again and of course a player. I had a list of thirty films I want to rewatch and not even one of those was available on Netflix or Amazon Prime in my country. Tried a free trial of MUBI. Three of those films where there, but only dubbed to German. To me this means that between those three services, I might as well not have any subscriptions, because there's no point in watching "the next best thing". If I want to watch Indiana Jones and it isn't available on these services, I'm not then going to be content with watching the remake of Jumanji.
All this to say : which Bluray Player should I get?
I’ve never owned a standard Blu Ray Player. I’ve always used gaming consoles. Right now I use a PS5 as a 4K Blu Ray Player. If you’re not a gamer though, some quick online research should give you some good options.
Get the Panasonic UB820.
It's a great 4K player that also does an amazing job of upscaling your BluRays to 4K.
@@ApolloT-vp5dn Awesome, thank you! That‘s the kind of clear advice I was hoping for!
You might think these boutique labels will release them, but studios might also just ignore all offers and not allow it to be distributed at all.
I’m optimistic to a fault.
If there's demand... no studio will turn revenue down for little effort on their part.
@@ApolloT-vp5dn I hope so.
It’s possible, but there also have to be alternatives for actual Bluray/UHD players. It’s getting to a point where only game console owners and maybe only PlayStation owners will have access to working physical media players that stay supported/updated. Apparently the next Xbox Series X will be completely digital.
I use my PS5 as a 4K Blu Ray player so I guess I’m part of the problem lol.
@@BraveBladeProductions No, it’s better than no Bluray/UHD players at all. At least gamers are fighting to keep physical media with their wallets by choosing not to buy digital only consoles.
@@Imhotep397 yeah but video games are also a bad influence especially moba games like league of legends.
Sony and Panasonic produce 4K players.
What's your issue?
These boutique releases can be prohibitively expensive. Unless you live in the US, importing Criterion is just to expensive sadly. We still regular releases. It's a poor assumption to think all collectors are minted.
I’m not saying it’s an ideal option but I would rather have them than nothing.
Toys r us sells physical media now
I wont be told what to watch,read n hear. I have all my major cds, vinyls, & 4k movies & especially HUNDREDS OF BOOKS as #historymatters. I collect all the classics with all the sexism racism & dirty jokes
I am big on physical media, and I'm glad it's not dying, although I honestly don't like how there is inconsistency with respect to the fact that some releases are clearly cheap and others are clearly fancy/collector/expensive and you often don't have a choice for a certain film. I also don't like how there's inconsistency with 4K transfer video quality but that problem is unfortunately not unique to physical media.
It has it’s issues sure, but I’m happy we still have it.
maybe but still
And JBs will only be.stocking physical media up.until.2027.
I hope that changes.
I guess i need to get dvd's before they get too hard to find😊
Yessssss.
Betas stream. Alphas buy physical. Sigmas buy blank discs and use torrents.
This is the way.
i've very recently decided to give up on streaming and just enjoy my small but beloved collection of physical media (still only dvds, haven't gotten up to bluray yet). everything i own is stuff i truly love, there's just a few more that i need to buy. and if the urge hits me to watch something else then it's almost always available to rent on youtube. i have a question though - the clips of celebs in that small closet of the great collection, what's the source for that? i'd love to be able to watch more.
Search up "Criterion Closet" on CZcams and you'll find the full videos you are looking for. They are all brilliant.
@@BraveBladeProductions sweet, thank you!
Great commentary, thank you. ❤ As many have suggested, 4K/BD is becoming the 'Vinyl' for Film-Collectors 🎉
Does anyone know a Platform for Exchanging Discs internationally with other collectors?
I wish to benefit others by swapping New UK Editions for USA, Australian releases without PROFIT/'Scalping' etc. ❤ thank you
Unfortunately there are none that I know of.
3:10 Is that Ethan Hawke? Truly one of my fav. actors wich you should own a dvd or a blu ray from
Sure is. Love that guy.
Great video, earned a sub from me
Thank you!
I agree
Cheers.
Why do you think it's fine shifting to collectors market, prices and availability will become so bad you wouldn't care to collect at all.
I'm not saying that I want Physical Media to totally shift to a Collector's Market, I'm just trying to say that if commercial Physical Media disappears, then I would rather have a Collector's Market then nothing at all. I don't even buy Collector's Physical Media, 99% of my Blu Ray Shelf is commercial releases.
I still collect I have over 7200 movies
Impressive.
Eh... as someone that works in publishing, physical is shifting, at best.
Physical has become a hinderance to production and IP holders unless the price per unit can offset the costs of manufacturing, logistics, dealing with middle men retailers and a long list of etc.
Thats why physical is shifting towards enthusiast/collector. The baseline versions are slowly but steadily been removed in favor to higher quality bundles but don't fool yourselves, producers want physical out, thats why more and more you get to see media products being digital platform exclusives, bypassing phisical retail and theater release alltogether.
As long as there are still some options available that’s all that matters for me personally.
They think they want it out. Their strategy was to forcefully shift the market towards streaming.
How's that working out for them?
if physical media can evolve, so can 2d/hand drawn animation.
That would be great!
@@BraveBladeProductions i know right? it would be like cgi (but when actuality is just hand drawn and 2d animation in disguise with 2d effects)
my 100TB server is all the physical media I need... and yes, ive got a backup
Nice setup.
@@BraveBladeProductions it's a little small :) I'm adding 18tb drives at a rate of about one a month
So piracy then?
@@ApolloT-vp5dn ??
So prices are going to skyrocket then. Awesome.(people might need to look up what drives prices)
Unfortunately, yes.
Not necessarily
Not really.
4:57 those are streaming shows
That are getting official physical media releases?
@@BraveBladeProductions yeah. but why?
@@ryanmatthews3609 Why not? The more options for people to collect and see as a hobby or a passion project, the better. Limit the options and then media that people would love to see again ends up being lost media. it's like one of your favorite things to watch on streaming platforms just up and disappears nearly 3 years later when you want to show it to your friends, only for it to not be there at that time and place. And then you wonder what the heck happened to it...This is why Physical media, or any recordings/copies of the show/movie/anime/animation etc. is much preferred for those nostalgic to it years from now, or to be able to re-watch it again, without having it be lost or destroyed to time (like so much of media from the early 20th century suffered through). So in my opinion, it's best to be able to watch it over and over again offline rather than put trust in a company that may take it off the air or never show it ever again and become lost or unable to be found once more, except for those whom own physical media of that show you wish to watch.
Just keep in mind that offline ownership is a must over going for an all-digital type of system. While it has its pros, it does have a lot of cons. And if the cons out ways the pros, then the service is garbage and becomes useless, meaning the company loses money on a cruddy service if done wrong and they lose customers over it.
@ryanmatthews3609 Because there's money on the table.
Wednesday is getting a DVD and BluRay release. Unusual for Netflix.
But a part of physical media's falling sales does come down to the lack of the option for shows only available on streaming. If Netflix put out their shows on DVD/BluRay I'm sure they'd sell.
You will own nothing and be happy.
But I’ll still own nothing.
Your forgetting the other Option of Bootleg DVD/Blu Rays. I have a Netflix and Disney + subscription and I have gotten into the habit of Web Ripping the movies and TV Series that I want to collect. I can then use software like Roxio to create my own Disks if I want, or just play them off as Media Files from my Disk Player.
That’s a good option too.
*you're. Punctuation and spelling are hard for those with an IQ below 70.
It’s amazing to me that unlike video, music physical media is still alive and well, but mostly in what I consider a very outdated format….vinyl. Could you imagine is VHS had a resurgence?!….yuck!….no thank you!
Vinyl is still a very high-quality analogue format and it's only the quality of the turntable, amp and speakers that determine your experience.
VHS on the other hand was always poor quality, but it was all we had.
So vinyl is far from outdated, which is why it succeeds.
Boo-teek
I can’t help I’m Australian.
People are starting to realize
You dont own anything you stream
Obviously.
then how come overseas a lot of countrys are ending them dude yea oh cant answer that huh im sorry pal by the end of this decade no more blu ray or 4k ever
R.I.P
Nonsense.
People in the 90s said the same thing about vinyl and CDs once streaming came along.
Guess what... still around.
Ha ha
Indeed.
I love having my physical media collection. DVD's, Bluray and now 4k, soon 8k then 16k?Seriously, there's something empty about digital. Whilst it has its merits, there's something warm and fuzzy about selecting my Movies/TV shows in every format, for sentimental reasons and just enjoying the special features. My favourite is to leave the Star Wars prequel dvds in the TV and enjoy the old openings. Plus it feels like an art form. It may not be vinyl, but it satisfying and knowing that I will.have a particular movie at all timrs, that they can't censor or remove the original music because I physically owning is just something special. Will always collect physical media. 📀 🫡
Physical Media is a blessing.
Speaking of Star Wars I managed to get the original trilogy in the form that was shown in theaters. I did lose it but I am glad I did rip them.