Is SMT V: Vengeance REALLY Bigger & Better?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Shin Megami Tensei V is back and better than ever! A few weeks ago Atlus re-released the game with a brand new version called Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance and Tin has finally gotten around to reviewing it. Just what makes this version of the game better? Watch and find out!
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Just wanted to correct something I said around the 6:21 mark. Godborn isn't actually a new difficulty but rather a new version of NG+. It carries over your level, stats, items, demos, etc, but it also makes every enemy in the game level 150. When starting a Godborn run, you can select any difficulty, including Safety. My bad guys, just unlocked it for myself lol -Tin
Just finished my first playthrough and I had a blast. My favorite addition is having the human characters be playable in the new story route.
That is really cool, but I think it could have done with a little more variety. Nothing against them, but it's pretty much just Tao and the new girl. -Tim
Smt 2 is a direct sequel to smt1 but otherwise yeah 5 is basically a sequel to nocturne
In spirit cause they’re not actually connected aside from Demi fiend traveling through diff universes to get to this one
I did not know that. Thanks for letting me know! The early years for Atlus are admittedly a pretty big blindspot for me. They were way before my time. -Tin
@@ozzy2012 in the demon haunt, Lucifer essentially confirms he’s the same one from nocturne as well
@@TinMaxx yeah they were well before I was born but I’ve been replaying them recently
@@ozzy2012 Nope; if you fuse Lucifer [you can do that now] he'll outright confirm he is the same Lucifier as SMT3.
Also; in Shinjuku; it's said Armageddon started in a hospital nearby... just like Nocturne.
Even if SMTV's world isn't the same as SMT3; it's a world that follows the exact same path, and Lucifer and the Demi-Fiend wind up here after their war against the Creator in SMT3, making it a parallel dimension that still has some of the same characters.
the law vs chaos endings aren't ALWAYS just tied to top or bottom, there are several main quest times where answering the top selection to yoko will sway you drastically towards chaos and same with tao
Good to know. Thanks -Tin
Yes.
I agree - Tin
I loved this game right up until the end. I was kind of disappointed in how the ending was pretty much the same. I wish they spent a few more minutes in the writing room for it lol. Oh well amazing game and I’m kind of sad it’s come and gone for me already. I haven’t been excited for a new game to drop in yearssss so that was cool
I feel the exact same way about the ending. It was underwhelming, but other than that, I loved the game! -Tin
I laughed my ass off when I got to the ending. I had hoped they improved the story, but then I realized it was choose your wifu (church girl vs goth gf), and i started laughing uncontrollably.
The game for me was really amazing up until the all the Qadistu died and after that it kinda dropped off in quality and the ending was underwhelming
@@philipalexander6450the endings were great bruh. The game story fall off for a moment then goes back to being good
currently playing the game and I think I'm about half way through, just got my new "form".
what I'm most disappointed about is the SMT aspect that was completely forgotten.
Yeah I made decisions so far, but most of them you had to decide between "Yes" and "Of Course" it feels like.
Also the Alignment system so far is only existent in the demon compendium. Like, that was *THE* aspect I loved so much about the games. Choose how your story plays out.
In the Original SMT 5 you got to choose the ending right before it happened. Still hoping they "fixed" this is Vengance but I have my doubts. I just hope they didn't forget the one aspect that made SMT what it is today
from what i’ve heard, vengeance only has 2 endings (lame) but it is determined by your dialogue decisions at least
I'm pretty happy with Vengeance (especially with the second last boss in venceance's law path)
the only thing that kinda grinds my gears, is that they still killed Saori..... I thought there'd be an option to at least keep her alive but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo xD
Yeah, that kind of bummed me out, too. That's where the story really started to change, so why couldn't they just keep her alive at the point? My best guess is because they considered it something that had to happen for Tao's character development or simething. -Tin
I KNOW like while I was playing I was fully expecting her to stay alive, but I guess not.
Hey great video! I just wanted to update some info as I’ve played the original completely many times. In the original you don’t have all three ending from the start. Your choices actually matter. It’s only in vengeance that the original endings are a freebie. And the choices only matter for the vengeance run. Also in the original there is a hidden secret 4th ending which is really awesome. Not many people know of it. I wonder if there is a hidden 3rd ending in this game for Vengeance?
I knew about the secret ending but wasn't aware of the choices you make actually impacting stuff. Might have to check that out. Thanks for the comment! -Tin
I played the original SMT V. As soon I saw the trailer for Vengeance, I knew I was buying it day 1 (I did, and I got the last steel book edition they had 💀). I haven’t finished the canon of vengeance yet, but so far, I’m glad I didn’t wait to get the game. Maybe I’ll buy Nocturne later down the line. SMT V was my first ATLUS game, and coming from an other guy who played the original, I definitely recommend you play vengeance as well, even if you played the original.
smt 2 is a direct sequel to smt1 so you can say that smt5 is the only "sequel" to a modern smt game
Could sb tell me that is the preorder gifts gud or not? Did i missed a lot or its just not that necessary 😢
You're not missing out
Don't tell me it has denuvo
Unfortunately, it does seem to be standard for PC versions of Atlus games. -Tin
Cant pirate it huh? Lmao
The final arc ruined the story, instead of fixing it they managed to make it even more rushed and disappointing.
Gameplay wise Vengeance is perfect, in terms of story it's ok, better than the original but still very weak.
This also shows me that after SMT IV, the team of writters that are know handling the story is kinda bad(the people behind V's story are the same ones from TMS, IV Apocalypse and some from SH2 with some supervisors of other games, and judging by how these other games were also bad story wise, SMT is in bad hands regarding story, wish that the same doesn't happen with Persona's side since the next game will be entirely made by the people behind P5R and P3R which so far have doing greatly opposed to the SMT side).
Super disagree
Vengeance was doing so well up until the 4 way Qadistu fight, the story falls off a steep cliff after it. Dazai remains one of the single worst fumbles Atlus has ever made.
I was so happy he had bonding moments with Yuzuru and MC, but then he just heel-turns that character development right down the drain =(
I mean, I don't really have any strong feelings about Dazai one way or another but maybe that just proves your point -Tin
Tell me you have never played strange journey without telling me that
Why are you so overleveled in all of your gameplay?
In the original game, it's a combo of NG+ and those EXP Mitamas, while Vengeance is just easier to level up thanks to the new auto-battle + consecutive battle features. -Tin
@TinMaxx Okay, but you were like 10+ levels over the recommended lvl in Vengeance. Of course it would be much easier
It's an SMT game, so I tried to be as prepared as possible lol plus I did as much side content as possible so that probably helped
@@TinMaxx ok i guess
The gameplay is better. Definitely have a lot of fun playing and grinding. But the story? Man, the story was even worse than the original >
I actually think it was a lot better with the exception of Dazai
@@sock312 Dazai was actually the reason why I dislike Vengeance story more so than the vanilla version. Because everything important that involved him (like his character growth and changed in personality) happened in the background. From the 'betrayal' to his angel's transformation. I don't really like vanilla story either. But at least, as the story goes, I can see his sanity went down bit by bit. How he slowly turned to the 'Law' side and everything that don't support it means sacriledge
I think...besides the two girls, the only character they didn't do dirty in Vengeance was Yakumo. Even Yuzuru got a bit of an NPC treatment. Where he was there just as a Lore dump guy. I still hate how he explained the true identity of our Mayor in a single paragraph. No cutscene whatsoever
But opinion is subjective. Even if I dislike the story, it was still fun to play. After all, I was hooked on my switch for a week nonstop playing this game haha
Story is way better. Not perfect but I vastly prefer Vengeance route and I'm like 50-60h in now
I definitely liked Vengeance's story better, but I see where you're coming from. Especially in regards to Dazai. It didn't really bother me because I didn't think he was very interesting at all in the original story, but I'm also not super into any of the characters in SMTV. -Tin
Objectively wrong take