Thankyou for putting this up. My Father was in B-29's, his plane ditched into the Pacific after getting shot up by Flak. The USS Sunfish rescued him and his entire crew within an hour of going into the water.
....because the machines were not as well designed as they could be ..... Wars and crappy engineering 'is good for business''...... at a great human cost......
Raymond Gordon. I can only agree with you. So many died so that we can still disagree with what they died for without endangering ourselves. It’s called free speech. The greatest idea in the world and perhaps the only thing worth dying for.
Sub Captains never seem to sleep. I always hated doing the morning report because it required you to wake up the Capt and I knew he did not get much sleep. However at 0600 he got his report not a min early and not a min late.
To the commenters who think the guests and host interviews are awkward/odd/stiff, etc: I see many ppl comment about how strange/stiff/odd/etc. the way the guests speak at the end of the show. Just wanted to say that it's plain to see they're reading off que-cards that are being show to them off-screen, which is also why their facing of Admiral Tom looks awkward as well. It's because both the Admiral AND the guests are looking PAST one another, to off-screen que-cards, to READ out loud their questions/answers. Hell, you can even ssee the guests eyes following the lines if you look close enough sometimes. Just wanted to put that out there for ya'll..... I see a lot of comments about it, and I thought it was plain to see they were reading off the cards, but... since it isn't I hope that helps some of you understand why the end of show interviews seem awkward. It's beacause they are SCRIPTED.... Thanks for reading tot he end, if you made it this far, apologies for being long winded lol.
Exactly. Well written, by the way. Coming from a media background i found it was easy to spot. Also we all need to cut them some slack. as they aren't actors, they are the real thing. Heroes.
Think I've watched every episode. I play a game called "Silent Hunter 4, Wolves of the Pacific". 2 huge maps on my wall above the computer desk. One shows all the Japanese shipping lanes. The other Japanese War and Merchant ships. I retired Army 1SG in 2002. Played in the big Sandbox on 2 Deployments from Germany. One as the acting CSM for a PATRIOT Taskforce. I respect what these fine Sailors did.😎
This is an interesting story. My view is the captain should have given his XO more leeway to prowl the boat looking for minor fixes with a torch while he guaranteed he was more alert by crashing. As a major I once awoke my exhausted boss with a situation in a major exercise. I briefed him in detail and he made a decision to the exact opposite of my recommendation. I had a good relationship with him and told him he made bad decisions when tired. It turned out to be a bad decision and years later when he was promoted to commanding a brigade, he told me that he always remembered my comment and got necessary rest. As a brigade commander I took a helicopter off to get an hour's snooze now and again. Helped when the action went for days and rest was not possible.
Veteran film, TV, and stage actor Arthur Franz portrayed Cdr Shelby. His film credits include The Caine Mutiny, Eight Iron Men, Sands of Iwo Jima, and Invaders from Mars. During WWII he served as a B-24 navigator, was shot down, and became a POW in Romania. He later successfully escaped. He passed away in 2006 and the age of 86.
The U.S. Navy rotated out 1/3 of the crew after each patrol and assigned them to new subs. That way any new sub went out with at least some experienced crew.
This Captain is an example of the reason that Chief Officers/Executive Officers are Command Grade. This is a classic example of failure to delegate authority. The very reason that Bridge Resource Management courses are now required.
What Submarine was it that sailed all the way back to Pearl Harbor not only shot up by Japanese planes but also fought off like 3 patrol boats? The sub went hunting in a harbor filled with Japanese shipping and war ships exhausted every torpedo and just about every gun rounds it had. Then destroyer chased it too which took up every last round on board... I cannot remember my thee name grand father told me... It was an early built sub and was mostly useless after getting shredded. I believe North Dakota and another destroyer brought it home with several dead on board... Let me know folks because I am not forgiving myself for forgetting. As a matter of fact one of my late grand fathers neighbors John Minrovik was on that sub.
The Russians and Japanese were not at war. Any Americans engaged in war with Japan who landed in Russia were jailed for the rest of the war. Any Americans fighting Germany who landed in Russia were help to get back. All shipments to Russia had to go through Murmansk, Vladivostok was off limits
The men of this documentary showcase what America used to be. God willing, may we be this humble, righteous,, and willing to serve the severance of weakness in our culture. I quess the pain of war is a remedy.
In the 1970's an airline decided to try a test. They took their fleet and designated a certain number of aircraft to be NO SMOKING in the cockpit. The rest of the planes were assigned as normal. After a couple of full maintenance schedules they decided to declare all cockpits NON-SMOKING. They found that the non-smoking planes had much cleaner instruments than the other planes who had very dirty instruments from the tars and smoke from cigarettes.
Yes, I even found the rear galley on our flights over and back from Iraq. Even found Atlanta airport had a VIP lounge where I was invited in for smoking/drinking for all deployed service members (I've been in recovery since '86 but I appreciated the smoke. I put myself in charge of making sure all our people got some form of nicotine ( preferred cigarettes) and coffee. I guess not much has changed. Of course this back in '03-'05.
The Sea of Okhotsk is a marginal sea of the western Pacific Ocean, between the Kamchatka Peninsula on the east, the Kuril Islands on the southeast, the island of Hokkaido to the south, the island of Sakhalin along the west, and a long stretch of eastern Siberian coast along the west and north. The northeast corner is the Shelikhov Gulf. The sea is named after Okhotsk, the first Russian settlement in the Far East. My Dad was a veteran of the US navy in the Pacific WW2
I watch religiously all these shows just wondering is there one of the USS torsk could you please put that video onto and keep running the videos the retired Admiral is doing a good job
He took too many unnecessary risks. A good tactician, but did a poor job at long term strategic planning. A thirst for targets and glory led him to believe that HE could get through a straight that was far too dangerous. A dead sub and crew are no good to anyone.
Probably mentioned a zillion times by now but something always troubles me with this series. When the captain looks through his scope and say you look straight forward at AFT torp... and the captain is looking totally 270 or 90 and says "fire"... I can't help but to think something's wrong. For a sub to fire either front or rear torps, the sub's front must face the targets or face where is it expected the targets will be and the same applies for rear torps. Looking at 270 and taking measurements and saying "fire"... I can't help but to think this isn't right.
The torpedoes make a turn after leaving the tubes via gyroscope settings within the torpedoes themselves. The sub doesn't have to exactly face the target at all.
There is a black steward (probably the cook, as I suspect that stewards would have been superfluous to a WWII sub's needs) shown in one of the episodes in the first season. His line was he had learned his skills as a Pullman porter. This show dates from the fifties and the navy was still pretty white. The host/producer and sometime author of scripts come from an even earlier era. In 1962 all of the stewards in the midshipmen's mess at Annapolis were Filipinos.
James Dickey blacks served on surface ships as cooks and gunners.and they tried to hide them in camara same thing with the black Marines and soliders it.was RACISM
Thankyou for putting this up. My Father was in B-29's, his plane ditched into the Pacific after getting shot up by Flak. The USS Sunfish rescued him and his entire crew within an hour of going into the water.
Your daddy flew with my great uncle. A flight engineer on b-29 he was on both atomic missions.
I never tire of these informative and interesting stories of the Silent Service. My hat is off to Submariners of all Ages.
WHO in the world would vote a thumbs down on one of these movies ???? and now WHY would someone vote a thumbs down on one of these movies ????
People too drunk to hit the right button.
....because the machines were not as well designed as they could be .....
Wars and crappy engineering 'is good for business''...... at a great human cost......
I hope the thumbs down is for the film not for the original men. More guts than I would have. Heros all, on all sides.
Raymond Gordon. I can only agree with you. So many died so that we can still disagree with what they died for without endangering ourselves. It’s called free speech. The greatest idea in the world and perhaps the only thing worth dying for.
@SPIRIT DOT We probably ALL a little Japanese or German. Even liberals, Jews, and Aribs.
My absolute admiration goes out to all the men that served on these subs . Those guys must have had nerves of steel . They are all heroes to me .
Sub Captains never seem to sleep. I always hated doing the morning report because it required you to wake up the Capt and I knew he did not get much sleep. However at 0600 he got his report not a min early and not a min late.
Thanks. I watched these as a kid. Way different perspective now. Again, thank you.
To the commenters who think the guests and host interviews are awkward/odd/stiff, etc: I see many ppl comment about how strange/stiff/odd/etc. the way the guests speak at the end of the show. Just wanted to say that it's plain to see they're reading off que-cards that are being show to them off-screen, which is also why their facing of Admiral Tom looks awkward as well. It's because both the Admiral AND the guests are looking PAST one another, to off-screen que-cards, to READ out loud their questions/answers. Hell, you can even ssee the guests eyes following the lines if you look close enough sometimes.
Just wanted to put that out there for ya'll..... I see a lot of comments about it, and I thought it was plain to see they were reading off the cards, but... since it isn't I hope that helps some of you understand why the end of show interviews seem awkward. It's beacause they are SCRIPTED.... Thanks for reading tot he end, if you made it this far, apologies for being long winded lol.
Exactly. Well written, by the way. Coming from a media background i found it was easy to spot. Also we all need to cut them some slack. as they aren't actors, they are the real thing. Heroes.
as a medic in an infantry unit in the army, i can sympathize with the captain on not getting any sleep
Excellent documentary series. Brave men!
Think I've watched every episode. I play a game called "Silent Hunter 4, Wolves of the Pacific". 2 huge maps on my wall above the computer desk. One shows all the Japanese shipping lanes. The other Japanese War and Merchant ships. I retired Army 1SG in 2002. Played in the big Sandbox on 2 Deployments from Germany. One as the acting CSM for a PATRIOT Taskforce. I respect what these fine Sailors did.😎
This is an interesting story. My view is the captain should have given his XO more leeway to prowl the boat looking for minor fixes with a torch while he guaranteed he was more alert by crashing. As a major I once awoke my exhausted boss with a situation in a major exercise. I briefed him in detail and he made a decision to the exact opposite of my recommendation. I had a good relationship with him and told him he made bad decisions when tired. It turned out to be a bad decision and years later when he was promoted to commanding a brigade, he told me that he always remembered my comment and got necessary rest. As a brigade commander I took a helicopter off to get an hour's snooze now and again. Helped when the action went for days and rest was not possible.
My fondest Navy drills were the Muff dive drills and having a clean uninspected weapon upon completion of such drills. CVN65 1982 - 2009
Veteran film, TV, and stage actor Arthur Franz portrayed Cdr Shelby. His film credits include The Caine Mutiny, Eight Iron Men, Sands of Iwo Jima, and Invaders from Mars. During WWII he served as a B-24 navigator, was shot down, and became a POW in Romania. He later successfully escaped. He passed away in 2006 and the age of 86.
The U.S. Navy rotated out 1/3 of the crew after each patrol and assigned them to new subs. That way any new sub went out with at least some experienced crew.
These are great. Memories from my childhood. Thanks.
i was surprised to see Richard Damms name, i dont know where he lives, but i went to school with a Mike Damm in Oregon in the 60s
This Captain is an example of the reason that Chief Officers/Executive Officers are Command Grade. This is a classic example of failure to delegate authority. The very reason that Bridge Resource Management courses are now required.
fantastic
Great !!!
What Submarine was it that sailed all the way back to Pearl Harbor not only shot up by Japanese planes but also fought off like 3 patrol boats? The sub went hunting in a harbor filled with Japanese shipping and war ships exhausted every torpedo and just about every gun rounds it had. Then destroyer chased it too which took up every last round on board... I cannot remember my thee name grand father told me... It was an early built sub and was mostly useless after getting shredded. I believe North Dakota and another destroyer brought it home with several dead on board... Let me know folks because I am not forgiving myself for forgetting. As a matter of fact one of my late grand fathers neighbors John Minrovik was on that sub.
It was interesting that we were shipping supplies to Russia through Japanese controlled waters.
The Russians and Japanese were not at war. Any Americans engaged in war with Japan who landed in Russia were jailed for the rest of the war. Any Americans fighting Germany who landed in Russia were help to get back. All shipments to Russia had to go through Murmansk, Vladivostok was off limits
@@alanmacification Mistakes happened. More than one Russian ship was sunk by US Submarines.
The men of this documentary showcase what America used to be. God willing, may we be this humble, righteous,, and willing to serve the severance of weakness in our culture. I quess the pain of war is a remedy.
FFS, you actually wish for war? You evil little priest of sh!t.
Sounds like they were attacked by every form of aquatic mammals except whales.
Too funny how they smoke on a submarine. LOL
Smoking on Submarines was allowed while I was in, '69 through the early 70s. Much of cleaning was washing tars off everything.
and drink a shit load of coffee
In the 1970's an airline decided to try a test. They took their fleet and designated a certain number of aircraft to be NO SMOKING in the cockpit. The rest of the planes were assigned as normal. After a couple of full maintenance schedules they decided to declare all cockpits NON-SMOKING. They found that the non-smoking planes had much cleaner instruments than the other planes who had very dirty instruments from the tars and smoke from cigarettes.
Patriot Sons of Liberty Smoking was allowed on my submarine, but only in one location. I separated in 1999.
Yes, I even found the rear galley on our flights over and back from Iraq. Even found Atlanta airport had a VIP lounge where I was invited in for smoking/drinking for all deployed service members (I've been in recovery since '86 but I appreciated the smoke. I put myself in charge of making sure all our people got some form of nicotine ( preferred cigarettes) and coffee. I guess not much has changed. Of course this back in '03-'05.
Sold for scrap, 15 December 1960
Richard...did they make a "USS Drum Story"? She is on display at Mobile, AL
Dad was a ww2 Pacific vet. Served on the u.s.s. John d. Henley ( dd-553 ). He had high regards for those submariners. He said. "Tough sharp guys ".
This modern technology has come up with some of the worst mispells I've ever made.
When battle stations is sounded......... do sleeping crewmembers just remain in their bunk ? Or over crowd every battle station ?
Where is the "Sea of Archives"? I have searched the internet, but can't find anything on it.
The Sea of Okhotsk is a marginal sea of the western Pacific Ocean, between the Kamchatka Peninsula on the east, the Kuril Islands on the southeast, the island of Hokkaido to the south, the island of Sakhalin along the west, and a long stretch of eastern Siberian coast along the west and north. The northeast corner is the Shelikhov Gulf. The sea is named after Okhotsk, the first Russian settlement in the Far East.
My Dad was a veteran of the US navy in the Pacific WW2
He meant the Sea of Okhotsk. It is north of Japan and west of the Kamchatka Pennsula in Siberia.
It's easy to see why the XO officer's hair is snow white: STRESS.
USS torsk is there a video of that submarine
I watch religiously all these shows just wondering is there one of the USS torsk could you please put that video onto and keep running the videos the retired Admiral is doing a good job
Long Live Mush Morton the Submarine Mafia agent....
He took too many unnecessary risks. A good tactician, but did a poor job at long term strategic planning. A thirst for targets and glory led him to believe that HE could get through a straight that was far too dangerous. A dead sub and crew are no good to anyone.
So what was the cause of the mysterious blasts...Godzilla?
I was wondering if it was whales, but I don't know if they do that.
I know. Thought it was whales rubbing off the crustaceans or asking for a date but not a flank speed... I hope!
Probably mentioned a zillion times by now but something always troubles me with this series. When the captain looks through his scope and say you look straight forward at AFT torp... and the captain is looking totally 270 or 90 and says "fire"... I can't help but to think something's wrong. For a sub to fire either front or rear torps, the sub's front must face the targets or face where is it expected the targets will be and the same applies for rear torps. Looking at 270 and taking measurements and saying "fire"... I can't help but to think this isn't right.
The torpedoes make a turn after leaving the tubes via gyroscope settings within the torpedoes themselves. The sub doesn't have to exactly face the target at all.
Were their any black submariners during ww two
yes there were,they were mostly stewards.
James Powell that's true but why did they showed the white stewards only
There is a black steward (probably the cook, as I suspect that stewards would have been superfluous to a WWII sub's needs) shown in one of the episodes in the first season. His line was he had learned his skills as a Pullman porter. This show dates from the fifties and the navy was still pretty white. The host/producer and sometime author of scripts come from an even earlier era. In 1962 all of the stewards in the midshipmen's mess at Annapolis were Filipinos.
James Dickey blacks served on surface ships as cooks and gunners.and they tried to hide them in camara same thing with the black Marines and soliders it.was RACISM
@@blackintellwilliams5488 Whether or not it was, if I hear that word again, I'm gonna puke.