UNISSUED RECORDING - Elgar’s “Organ Sonata”: John Scott St Paul’s Cathedral 1984

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  • Recorded in St Paul’s Cathedral in October 1984 but never issued and hence unheard until now, we are delighted and honoured to share with you this unique item as a tribute to the genius of John Scott. The “Sonata” was recorded in very few takes on the post-Mander rebuild, and John Scott plays with great sensitivity and passion.
    The recording was made by Nick Ware Sound Recordings and was intended to be included as part of the Guild LP GRCD7022, produced by Barry Rose, but was not used due to time constraints. It has never been issued or heard since that day in October 1984 and, to use Nick’s own words, ‘that can’t be right!’ So we thank him for his generosity in donating this recording to the Archive and allowing it to be heard once again.
    All copyright remains with the copyright holder.
    Elgar’s “Sonata in G major” (Op. 28) was written in 1895 at the request of Hugh Blair, organist of Worcester Cathedral, who wanted a new piece to play on 8 July of that year to a group of visiting American organists. Unfortunately, Elgar handed Blair the finished manuscript only five days before the première, which proved to be insufficient time for him to prepare it properly. The first performance was described by one attendee as ‘a terrible mess of poor Elgar’s work’, although Elgar was magnanimous in refusing to blame the ‘murderer’, who, he said, ‘had not had time thoroughly to study the victim.’ After Elgar’s death, the Sonata was orchestrated by Gordon Jacob and was first performed in this new version on the BBC Home Service in 1947.
    1. Allegro
    2. Intermezzo
    3. Adagio
    4. Finale
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Komentáře • 59

  • @bikerpaul68
    @bikerpaul68 Před rokem +3

    I was privileged to know John when he was Organ Scholar at St John's College Cambridge: a charming man and of course a wonderful organist. His early death was a tragic loss.

  • @angiebarrett8780
    @angiebarrett8780 Před 3 měsíci

    By the esteemed organist, John Scott.
    This performance defies superlatives.
    I was honored to have met John Scott and to have worshipped during his tenure at St. Thomas, NYC
    I’ll never forget being in the audience of his stirringly beautiful recital of Bach’s music on Saturday June 20 2015 (I saved the program).
    SOLI DEO GLORIA

  • @robertvarner9079
    @robertvarner9079 Před 5 lety +9

    Rest in peace John Scott. I think of you when I visit St. Thomas Church in NYC. You would be proud of the new organ there.

  • @davidmace3716
    @davidmace3716 Před 6 lety +21

    I have lost count of the number of times I have listened to this recording and it never fails to thrill, wonderful piece of music, fantastic organ played by a genius so sadly lost to us so young. Rest in peace John.

  • @josephlindquist506
    @josephlindquist506 Před 3 lety +5

    The finest performance I have ever heard, live or recorded. A tremendously difficult piece to learn - - - I played it myself back in the early '80s, but this beats anything I could ever do, then or now And yes, this is the finest sonata in the entire organ literature, and of all composers since Beethoven, only Johannes Brahms rivals Elgar.

  • @kentbloxham3826
    @kentbloxham3826 Před 3 lety +2

    Such a majestic place perfectly executed by an incredibly talented young organist R.I.P.

  • @rosscobb900
    @rosscobb900 Před 7 lety +24

    Utterly brilliant- fiery, colourful and full of musicality. What an extraordinary performance, and what a talent the world has lost.

  • @davidmace3716
    @davidmace3716 Před 6 lety +9

    In my opinion, the combined genius of Elgar,s writing and John Scott,s registration make the "Adagio" one of the most hauntingly beautiful pieces in the entire organ repetoire

  • @alistairkirk3264
    @alistairkirk3264 Před 7 lety +8

    Superb, such bounding, striding energy. What a musician John Scott was.

  • @michaelmartens7728
    @michaelmartens7728 Před 6 lety +10

    Scott knew the cathedral's reverberation times and sound resonances well and chose tempo and stops thoroughly adapted to this vast room.

  • @johnlofthouse6159
    @johnlofthouse6159 Před 7 lety +14

    What a wonderful performance by a truly skilled organist, on an incredible instrument. I have many recordings made by John Scott at St. Paul's, all of which are outstanding. His use of the organs extra stop ( the accoustics ) impeccable. His recording of the music of Maurice Durufle, and His interpretation, flawless. I pray His talent lives on in the heavenly realms.

  • @ArchivesofSound
    @ArchivesofSound Před 7 lety +18

    One of the best organists in the world, recorded by one of the best recording engineers. Stunning. Thanks for allowing us to hear it!

  • @albertpeckham8708
    @albertpeckham8708 Před 5 lety +2

    Amazing that two maestro's met and created a masterpiece. The serendipity of this is a gift to us!

  • @livzdave
    @livzdave Před 2 lety +2

    What a fabulous performance and recording! This reminds me of the David Wyld Mirabilis Andrew Lucas St. Paul's recording from 1991 using the Calrec ST250 microphone. That is my definitive St. Paul's recording. I would love to hear this recording in high resolution FLAC or even CD! CZcams doesn't do this amazing performance and recording justice!

  • @jeffreyhoward879
    @jeffreyhoward879 Před 10 měsíci

    Was never a fan of this piece until I just listened to this recording. I met John a few times and page turned for him as a teenager and Uni student in Cardiff. I went on to study at the RAM where he was a tutor but he sadly left the year I got there. What a musician and thoroughly nice man. The organist’s organist.

  • @johnwebster313
    @johnwebster313 Před 2 lety +2

    What a Brilliant Organist and Musician John Scott was. He is very sadly missed by all professional organists who new him. No wonder New York stole him from St Pauls Cathedral

  • @Tierheiler
    @Tierheiler Před 3 lety

    John was such a wonderful artist, gentleman and a wonderful teacher, I feel so very lucky that I got a chance to do some post graduate studies with him in London that time... Thanks for uploading this.

  • @stevecarroll7412
    @stevecarroll7412 Před 4 lety +3

    Elgar must go down as one of the world's greatest composers of all time ✈

    • @josephlindquist506
      @josephlindquist506 Před 3 lety

      The greatest composer since Beethoven, excepting only Johannes Brahms.

  • @marcdeleeuw2761
    @marcdeleeuw2761 Před 6 lety +15

    A brilliant organist, but the composer was a genius too!

  • @bengunn99
    @bengunn99 Před 6 lety +1

    Lovely piece and stunning photos.

  • @samshearman5251
    @samshearman5251 Před 6 lety +2

    Pure Beauty!

  • @andre26071955
    @andre26071955 Před 3 lety +1

    Sublime performance, and the acoustic circumstances must have been hell for the recording technician....

    • @nickware119
      @nickware119 Před rokem +1

      During the Barry Rose (my Brother-in-Law) years at St Paul's, I more-or-less had the free run of the place. We did a lot of recording, and got to know the building and the organ intimately. "Hell", you say? Honestly the best experience of my entire life and career!

  • @josemariaboetto8645
    @josemariaboetto8645 Před 6 lety +2

    ES LA GLORIA Y EL TRIUNFO DE LA BELLEZA

  • @denekaraus8592
    @denekaraus8592 Před 6 lety +2

    The dialogue below regarding whether this was the same recording as one released years later, and the statement regarding the "identical nature" of the two recordings is a testament to Scott's genius. He knew how he wished to interpret the piece, and years later duplicated his performance sufficiently well to fool educated ears. THAT is how genius can work, often. The opposite would be a reinterpretation which would be obvious to all listeners.

  • @johnstag1391
    @johnstag1391 Před 3 lety

    Splendid

  • @alansutton7046
    @alansutton7046 Před 2 lety

    I think the Elgar is the ultimate in our repertoire. After a lot of unsatisfactory performances I gave a reasonable one in Kiev in 2000 and vowed never to play it again. Then for some reason I played it again in Chernivtsy last week, and they seemed to like it. I envy John Scott and his registration aids. Mine were mostly me, 4 general pistons and a short sighted assistant.
    I don't care for the registration in the second movement, but that might be me, nor some bits of the third where I would be more subtle. That might be as I have never played it on that sized instrument

  • @michaeldoster4847
    @michaeldoster4847 Před 6 lety +1

    Wow!

  • @charlesdavis7087
    @charlesdavis7087 Před 4 lety

    Just discovered this.... ! Wonder and excellence. Off the scale . Will listen again. Brains is not everything but... it does hurt. Awake ye that sleep in the dust. Arise, oh Israel . Awake. Your minds and hearts are necessary to participate upon a forum. Arise. Ye who sleep in the dust, ye who sleep in the waves and in the air and outter astral planes, and beyond... the solar system, etc., etc.... Upon this Christmas Eve. 2019 AD round the world. Radiant... old and living "on earth as it is in heaven." This very hour.

  • @tracyenglefield8034
    @tracyenglefield8034 Před 7 lety +3

    This is an absolutely terrific piece love it always

    • @josephlindquist506
      @josephlindquist506 Před 3 lety

      The finest sonata in the entire organ literature. Brutally difficult to learn, but what richness!

  • @peterdevile7581
    @peterdevile7581 Před 7 lety +2

    I beg to differ. It was released by Priory in the Great European Organs series (No.34) along with the Bairstow and Harris organ sonatas and was recorded on 6 - 8 January 1992.

    • @ArchiveofRecordedChurchMusic
      @ArchiveofRecordedChurchMusic  Před 7 lety +3

      Our understanding is that this a different recording, made six years earlier.

    • @peterdevile7581
      @peterdevile7581 Před 7 lety

      I compared the two and it is exactly the same. Identical timing and registration.

    • @ArchiveofRecordedChurchMusic
      @ArchiveofRecordedChurchMusic  Před 7 lety +7

      This recording, which came direct to us from the sound engineer who made the recording in October 1984. It is not the recording on Priory Great European Organs.

    • @peterdevile7581
      @peterdevile7581 Před 7 lety

      How odd. Excellent playing as always

    • @Waresound1
      @Waresound1 Před 7 lety +3

      I've been talking to my friend and colleague Paul, who records for Priory. Their Great European Organs CD no 34 is definitely not my recording from 1984. He tells me he recorded John and at the same time page-turned for him. I wish I had thought of doing that too! Regards, Nick.

  • @michaelmartens7728
    @michaelmartens7728 Před 6 lety +1

    He played Elgar's op. 28 at the age of 28...

  • @richardharrold9736
    @richardharrold9736 Před 7 lety +3

    Wonderful performance - JS was inconsistent and sometimes downright odd, but this is excellent. BTW, that photo looking straight up into the dome isn't St Paul's - it's a much smaller edifice, probably Swiss or German by the look of the glazing.

    • @duncancourts9847
      @duncancourts9847 Před 7 lety

      If you mean the picture at 26 minutes in, yes, it's definitely St. Paul's.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 Před 7 lety

      Duncan Courts
      No, I mean the one around the 4 and a half-5 minute mark.

    • @duncancourts9847
      @duncancourts9847 Před 7 lety +1

      Richard Harrold - ah, I missed that one. You're quite right.

    • @ringeradam4575
      @ringeradam4575 Před 6 lety +2

      Ooh! Just found out. It IS from a St. Paul's Cathedral, but this is St. Paul's in Mdina.

    • @rowlandwateridge906
      @rowlandwateridge906 Před 6 lety +1

      Equally, the photograph of the console isn't the one which John Scott was playing. It shows the "new" second (very sumptuous) mobile console built by Mander Organs.
      4 minutes ago•

  • @foveauxbear
    @foveauxbear Před 6 lety +4

    I have a rather odd recording of this work orchestrated by Gordon Jacob, played by the National Orchestra of Wales. I must say, the original organ statement is far better.

  • @Mark_Dyer1
    @Mark_Dyer1 Před 5 lety

    Shame the second photograph is not of the interior of the dome of St Paul's, London. It is of a smaller structure; and more research would be needed to identify it.

  • @raulreyesortiz1732
    @raulreyesortiz1732 Před 5 lety

    Es klingt so toll, aber warum man sieht keinen Organist an der Orgel wenn er spielt?

  • @diapasonukful
    @diapasonukful Před 4 lety

    The photo at 51 seconds and 4 min 28 s is not St Paul's

  • @Mark_Dyer1
    @Mark_Dyer1 Před 5 lety

    Shame the first picture of a domed interior is not that of St Paul's Cathedral!

  • @johnmitchell4838
    @johnmitchell4838 Před 7 lety +7

    A brilliant performance spoilt in places by the echo in St. Paul's. The middle two movements are simply superb, but full organ played at speed in the outer movements looses many details when one piece of harmony clashes with the echo of the previous one. This ruins an otherwise superb performance.

  • @westernshipway3115
    @westernshipway3115 Před 7 lety +1

    Sounds mostly awfu,l obviously the more stops that are selected the worse it gets, but other than that it's okay.

    • @davidmace3716
      @davidmace3716 Před 4 měsíci

      I would suggest that you save your remarks for thingz you know about, as obviously organ music isn't one of them.