Virgil Fox - Louis Vierne - 6th Symphony, Final Op. 59
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2013
- This recording is from the rare Direct to Disc vinyl record set, "The Fox Touch" Vols. 1 and 2, recorded in August 1977 at the Garden Grove Community Church. The organ was later moved to the Crystal Cathedral. Note: The performances on the records are much better than those found on "The Fox Touch" CD, which is made up from the "out-takes" of the vinyl recording sessions.
This track has been very carefully restored from the original vinyl recording by myself, using Izotope RX2 Advanced and Adobe Audition. I am sure you will find the audio quality very good indeed (keeping in mind the maximum audio data rate available in the video file), and I hope you enjoy this piece as much as I do. The score is from IMSLP (International Music Score Library Project) Petrucci Music Library, and re-formatted to fit the screen. - Hudba
It’s refreshing to hear this difficult work taken at a tempo where we can actually hear the notes and chord progressions.
I was fortunate enough to have had a lesson on this work with Virgil in about 1973 or so. As a teacher, Virgil never tried to get you to play the way he did. He simply went through the score, note for note, pointing out the spots that could be improved. He explained away difficulties with a few well-chosen words.
Inasmuch as he knew Vierne well during his studies in Paris in the early 1930s, one should not dismiss his interpretations out of hand. He *did* incorrectly play the last few measures, and admitted as much.
Perhaps the most valuable thing he said was "Oh, Honey, don't play what the composer wrote. Play what the composer meant."
Great note Lew. What Virgil meant in your last comment, he was insisting that the printed page is just that,rather like a stained glass window in the dark. The composer was giving from his soul and all who play the "work" must become the light of the sun shining through the dark window bringing it to life. Anyone that can read music can play most of the notes correctly ,but without bringing it to life, making it alive with the light of their own creativity, using the pages as the guide, simply plays living/dead Zombie music. to the three people in the free concert at noon.
David Snyder, Lumierist.
Creator of Heavy Organ Touring Production.
That was so precious... what you said... historic even. Thank you so much.
Out of all of the recordings I have listened to, this one is my favorite. The pedal line is clear, and it doesn't sound a like a giant blur. I love his performance, and I love his interpretation.
Virgil Fox was required to make a total of 16 perfect,nonedited sides to facilitate the two recordings, total of 4 sides.. Neither he nor I as his PR. had any idea this effort would be required with its superhuman demand. His manager surely must have!! This recording is remarkable only because of the effort it took from a dying man and from the fact he never received a cent in royalty money for his efforts. I hear his suffering in every note and in his tempo and it breaks my heart still.
David - I STILL remember meeting you first in Milwaukee at the PAC and then in San Francisco on Virgil's final trip there. I DO understand and have such memories of love and devotion of you BOTH. Please let me know you're doing well and THANK YOU for this and all you did with Virgil. I'm now an organist in Lisbon, Portugal, trying to get a semi-touring organ together for the museums and palaces to entertain and delight guests here.
Thank you for your kind and warm note. David, Milwaukee was one of our special places to perform. I'm thrilled you were there. WOW your calling in Portugal(which I LOVE) sounds thrilling. If I can be of any help about a "touring organ" let me know. At present I'm writing a book about the true great Virgil Fox and all my experiences and memories events etc will be in it. If you care to send me your e mail.
My experiences in Portugal will be in it.
Warm regards.
David Snyder, Lumierist.
Creator of Heavy Organ Touring Production
I remember sitting with you in the hall while Virgil was rehearsing with the Milwaukee Symphony! And I remember our dinner at the Fairmont Hotel after Virgil played in Oakland. Did Virgil ever tell you that I was trying to hide the in doorway of Organ Arts while he was practicing before that show when he CAUGHT me? Had I known about his illness I would have done everything to have joined the tour when we talked about becoming the Allen technician at the time...
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David - still hope you'll find time for that email - djdehner@yahoo.com. I need to go to The Netherlands and ask some pointed questions to Content Organs about the problems of transporting one of their organ, specifically if the computer processor needs to be detached and packed more carefully since that is the brains of the organ. Did Virgil ever have particular difficulties with either the Rogers or the Allen from the frequent disassembling and moving from location to location?
thanks from the C# side,
David D.
Nope !
Absolutely genious !!!! Congratulations !!!
It's simply amazing. Absolutely amazing.
Both Vierne AND Fox 👍
Great music!👍💚💚🇭🇺
La Version historique des six symphonies de LOUIS VIERNE🍋🦁🍒 est Celle inégalée😇🪢🎶 et inégalable📚🌸💮 du GRANDISSIME MAÎTRE ORGANISTE CATHOLIQUE🌿🎶🕊🧭🍒🌺 PIERRE COCHEREAU🌸📚🌻💐 (1924-1984) sur les Grandes Orgues 🍋🇨🇵⛑🇨🇵🍋de la basilique metropolitaine de Notre-Dame de Paris ❤🌻💐🪢🪅🪢🎶🕊🇵🇸👨🍳📚💒🇻🇦⛑🧭🇨🇵🌿🇲🇬🌸💮😇🙋♂️!!!
This and other correct great details of Virgil's remarkable life will be in the book I'm in the process of writing. I've been asked by so many to do so.His greatness and accomplishments rise above all others in what he gave to the world. Sure he was one of a kind but my book will show great times and the life I witnessed for nearly 20 years. It will be full of ,Memories,accomplishments of the REAL Virgil Fox very few really knew. I will be an eyeopener. I'll be happy relating my part in it and how I went from a Dachwegle to the stage of Carnegie Hall.
Write the book! I want two signed by you. Please and thank you. Love and Blessings, Charles Vincent Davis.
Thank you Charles. Now,it is still being written so it will be awhile before it becomes available, but I will file this request. I'm thrilled you would want to have it. It's for people like you i am doing it. All deserve to know the real,great artist Virgil was and who he was in his real life
Hope it's out by now. Can't wait to give it my full attention. Thanks. Yeah Virgil.
@@charlesdavis7087 Well, likely you know,,but just in case,,YES the book was finished. All 300 plus pages.Its sold out of print now .
@@DavidSnyderLumierist Wonderful! Can we buy it on Amazon... and what's it called? I'm very interested in Mr. Fox because I had an incredible experience during a concert he gave in Seattle. I'll never forget it. Thank you David. PS. What does the word "lumierist" mean?
Best performance I've ever heard, and I've heard many.
What a great master Virgil was... and still is. And oh what a Grand Master Vierne is... to have give to humanity a work of such heroic nature. Man in a universe... with all the stars in witness of our progress with and into... our Oneness with it All. Glory be!!! CVD
Charles. How stunningly beautiful. Thank you, you truely seem to understand what it is really all about.
Blessings.
David Snyder, Lumierist
Creator of Heavy Organ Touring Production.
Hi David; if you don't mind, what is a "Lumierist"? I have a degree in Music Therapy and worked in hospitals and rests homes for thirty plus years as a nurse/therapist. I have a rather mystical approach to music, particularly Vierne, Satie, Debussy, Etc., and dear Virgil. I had the privilege of listening to Virgil play his last concert in Seattle. It was so far over the top. He not only turned into a 'ball' of light at the organ; he pinned us to our seats in an electrical ecstasy. I'll never forget that moment. I truly do believe in the healing powers of light, love and laughter. Blessings right back ya. Charles.
Wow,what a great calling and so needed. Charles,Lumierist is a term I invented for myself as one who performs in Light, or Lumia,which is light but in my case, reflected and manipulated light. As my instrument was just that, an instrument It played light,unlike a musical instrument that plays sound.I wrote symphonies of light that you would enjoy visually in silence, just as you enjoy symphonies in sound. My performance was simultaneous WITH Virgil's in sound. Most think my work was meant to accompany.Yes it did that, but in essence my Clavilux could perform by itself.
one can always detect an organist's comment. it's the one completely intolerant of anyone's interpretation but his own.
phulnelson You can't blame wine drinkers for not accepting Coca-Cola as wine.
I went to hear him play with the DSO. He played the night before, but was too sick to play the next night when I went. Night before was his last performance. I have both of these records and they are probably worn out for as many times as I played them. As I understand it, the organ was half Fratelli Ruffati and the other half was the Lincoln Hall Aeolian Skinner. (I could be wrong).
Re THE FOX TOUCH as described. It is interesting that Virgil Fox never receive a penny of royalty from those recordings nor has his estate, nor has his estate given permission to re release them or any others that are on the market these days. One more reason Virgil fired his crooked manager it seems.However, buy them because Virgil literally gave the last of his human strength making them. He made two records each side required 4 perfect masters.so he had to make 16 perfect takes. Think of it. Think of what he went through suffering bone cancer to make them plus all the aborted sides. I was there. He truly suffered. I'll be writing about this in detail in the true life story of Virgil Fox I am currently undertaking.
How's the book coming along?
God will have Virgil at his side to make his music, of the spheres. Nevermind the un-Christian comments directed at Virgil. He will find his place in Heaven, where I hope to meet him.
Amazing
I must be missing something. I don't come away from this shocked at the liberties the performer is taking with score but that people who have a prejudice against him that's decades old tune in to him and then complain he's not their man for the job.
Oh, even Bartok disregarded his own time signatures and the descriptions on the pieces he wrote and him playing HIS OWN works.
Don't be such a STIFF moron.
And... Gimme a break....😉
I subbed cause of this vid!
Great! 😁
For some unknown reason, Fox changed the right hand runs to land on I-6/4 rather than I-6 as written. Everything else is letter-perfect...so changing the ending right hand chord doesn't make any musical sense. If it were for dramatic effect, the notated I-6 is more logical - or landing on the tonic, but not the fifth of the chord. Maybe he learned it wrong and didn't notice the pattern shifted down a third after the first two runs? After a cursory listening and reading, I didn't hear any other "liberties" so I'm guessing it was just a mistake in learning it.
I had to learn this.. I found the piece remarkable to play but really never liked the way it sounded.. It reminds of theatre organ in places. But it is played really well here.
1. The 'f'enominal Fox and ever vigilant Virgil is on the run chasing down Louis Vierne's final Final, that of his Organ Symphony No. 6th.
2. Trailblazer Vierne expanded the harmonic vocabulary of the organ with his increasing chromaticism, and in this 6th Final transported elements from American jazz's extended and altered chords into his palette. No longer was the classical European figured bass harmonic analysis, originating in the Baroque era two centuries earlier, sufficient to categorize the vertical structures of Vierne's music. No, it would require chord symbols, but like Baroque analysis be based on the stacking of intervals of the third. This analysis would become systematized by Boston's Berklee College of Music after World War II, a decade after Vierne's death, and eventually rival, then supercede figured bass analysis in comprehending the harmonic complexities of 20th century music and beyond. Posthumously for Vierne, the Berklee method at last could best explain the method of his musical madness that for him was entirely intuitive and instinctive.
MR FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
Well, that was certainly an… interesting… performance. Anyone else notice he sustains a different note at the end than the one printed in the music? perhaps there's some as-yet-unknown musicological insight he is sharing with us.
I heard Virgil play many times in my youth, and loved his work. But I had no idea that he took so many liberties...
Who cares? Even composers playing their own works disregard their "own rules".
What drives you?? Others opinion? If so, that's bad.
Check out Rachmaninoff or Bartok playing their own works an quit being STIFF. Oh, my......😑
He's carrying the B-F# run through the end instead of G#-D#. Certainly easier on the right-hand fingering...we may never know why!
I'll repeat myself: FOX IS THE GREATEST!!!
Well,I certainly agree.
Warm regards
FANTASTIC FOX IS THE GREATEST!!!
Very clear, but too slow
Orgeljonas Yes. Artistic interpretation and alternate readings must be struck down. Otherwise -- heavens forbid -- creativity would rear its ugly head.
Do you like the interpretation?
Orgeljonas In a word...yes... notwithstanding Fox's poor health and deficient venue. From a conversation that a musician friend and I had years ago came this: "We enjoy (and are biased to prefer) the interpretation as played when we hear a piece for the first time." That explains my answer. Does that mean I prefer it above all other interpretations? Eventually...no. That conversation taught me to keep my mind and ears open. Sometimes I'll order a hamburger with everything on it; other times, just with ketchup. Variety leads to all sorts of discoveries.
+Orgeljonas So sorry! Wondering if you had played this with the long standing genius of this great man? My guess NO. I do not know where your criticism of his interpretation of this master. I knew Virgil from the time I could walk until he passed away. During this performance, he was already dying, and while not on perfect point from earlier years - still unmatched!
+Orgeljonas I don't think it's too slow. I learned singing in a Black Sabbath tribute band that sometimes it pays to slow down, because then you hear details that get obscured by fast playing.
Le tempo est bon, mais phrasés et registration ne sont parfois pas respectés.
C'est parcequ'il s'agit d'une interpretation baroque, que je trouve assez originale
Great performance and of course a Great Maestro but the organ.......what a crap, is it a Ruffatti?
Casio maybe
Respect for your conscientious labour. This performance meets no standard at all, disregarding the score as it comes to articulation and architecture. It seems to me that one might as well perform Vierne on a Hammond organ.
Yes,quite possible. Great music in the hands of a great Artist, (Vierne and Fox) could well be played on a Hammond and still be outstanding.
AND YOUR COMPOSITIONS SUCK!!! A BLIND GORILLA CAN COMPOSE BETTER THAN YOU!!! GO BACK TO YOUR INCEST VILLAGE!!!
Another masterpiece bastardised.
And you ARE a "by the book" idiot lol
I'll repeated myself. Hideous, in every respect.
Oh, sweetheart, Jesus wants you for a sunbeam.
Even Bartok played his own works differently from what can be seen in his scores. And Fox was dying when playing this recording. So would you please go and multiply yourself?
Repeated??? Repeat-‘ed’?!?! I believe the term you might be looking for is ‘repeat’.
I bet you secretly would LOVE the ability to compose, the ability to write as Vierne did. I bet you’re jealous!!
Play it yourself then and upload it to CZcams.
horrible music.
Then leave
@@tiborvisi7438 I did with glee.
@@tiborvisi7438 I climbed out of the hole of dumbness and ran.
@@shnimmuc I hope to see your organ works coming very soon 😊👍
I'll repeat myself. Absolutely vile, with an utter lack of connection with the score. I may be sick. And as for that hulking great piece of shit in Riverside Church, the river's rather close...chuck it in it. Horrid. Awful.
Or you're a stiff moron living by the rules but not playing anything great.
Please upload your interpretation to oppose this one.
Thank you in advance.
I can't wait 😊
what are you so angry about? So uncalled for!