3 Tips To Master Your Forehand Kinetic Chain
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2023
- Achieve a more efficient swing and create more lag with these 3 forehand coaching tips by Tom Allsopp
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Hi Tom,
I'm quite in learning kids throwing underhand like a forehand (so little bit of a figure 8 and preparing and finishing with two hands together so the body and arms synchronise naturally). When I see you using the analogy of skipping a stone, I could understand what the simularities but only with high level forehands. Don't you think for most club players and kids a fluid underarm throw like a pendelum from the shoulder is more helpfull? Since skipping a stone is is al lot of elbow/wrist movement which makes it quite hard for the average person to make clean contact. Looking forward to your respons.
Best, Paul
I understand what you're saying in regard to the throwing motion being a complex move, not appropriate for the average player. I'm not really visualizing the pendulum motion as something I'd use, because I see it as a back and forth motion. The way I think most players should execute a forehand is to take the racket back shoulder/head height and use gravity and momentum to perform an effortless swing. I think catching the racket in the left hand is great for coordinating things. Thanks for the comment Paul!
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Of course; I'm also not a fan of a 70's pendelum swing;)
The player prepares with two hands at around shoulder level for a C shape... but then then throw it from the shoulder like a pendelum. And after releasing they don't stop (like pointing at the ball advice in the old days) but naturally follow throught over the shoulder. I will text you a video to show you what a mean:)
See this is what I’m confused about. It appears he’s teaching the concept where you lead with the elbow which results in a bent arm at contact? High level as mentioned. As a rec player was taught the other way where arm is almost straight at contact. Feels natural but sometimes I lose control that way and feels too whippy. Maybe a combination of the two is possible?
Fantastic video. What I really like as a coach myself is that you give the subtle nuances that make all the differences between making a mid level stroke and a high level stroke. Thanks
Thank you!
Hope you got something out of this. Leave me a comment and let me know your thoughts.
perfect
This is great - I like the clips of the pros at the end so that we can see how they're doing exactly what you said.
Vwry Good explanation, sir!
A huge from Barcelona (Spain)
great for the development of the fearhand.
I like the way you explain things. Some concepts are intuitive but others may not be so obvious without adequate coaching. I am an intermediate player and is always looking for tips to better player.
this is one of the most clear and understandable way to explain lag and forehand motion. ty
Want I found in my day was elbow chest high then swing from the right chest. At the 6:55 mark your hand is on your chest which is where you can get a quick snap like a boxer. The shoulder and arm flow naturally with the right chest.
All thumbs up!!👍👍🌶️
I m a big fan of ur fhand teaching!
One of your best videos. I especially love the supination tip!
This is awsome🤯
Great video. One thing I wanted to point out which do helps me a lot with achieving great racquet lag. is to lower the racquet (pat the dog) before the forward acceleration. This will ensure that the force is used to swing the racquet forward from low to high (linear), instead of high to low to high (circular which leads to energy leak).
If you take a look at the big forehand players like Roger, Rafa, Nick, Sinner, Alcaraz, they execute the `pat the dog` motion by lowering the racquet downward and backward, then they do their forward and upward swing path. While you kind of blending in the lowering racquet motion as part of your forward swing path as at 4:56 for example. Novak actually does something similar, but still if you watch his forehand at very low speed, you can still see the first half of his `pat the dog` is still taking lower and back at the same time, but he will continue to lower the racquet at the beginning of forward swing.
I used to not be able to create the whipping forehand feeling, but after doing the `pat the dog`, it does feel so much closer to getting that lag/whipping effect.
Hope this small easy tip can help others to improve forehand swing!
Finding The Perfect Forehand Arm Action - By Patting The Dog!?
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Awesome tips! Thanks Tom for another great video.
Coach - great content! I am a beginner and have been experimenting with my forehand the past couple of months. The forehand you teach feels most fluid, rhythmic and natural to me.
Great explanation, thanks.
Really great, simple but not easy :) I hope I finally got the secret when I understood and could adapt idea that body goes first to the ball a bit before the swing, afterwards, naturally the arm should follow the body and this is the recipe for a natural lag ... Regards and many thanks :)
Thank you 😊 bravo!!
Hi Tom. Nice stuff. Personally I prefer the last way you explained forehand, although it is the most difficult one to understand and to play. You are talking about most difficult part of the stroke - rithm and connetic chain. Good luck
Thank you!
Superrrrr.....indeed !!!!
Oooh quality of video is looking good
Just another great lesson again Coach but I think you should mention the extension after the hit: most people don’t do well with the extension. Perhaps to catch the racket with the left hand in front to make sure that the extension is completed.
I’m not big on extension. Rotation is where it’s at.
Hey Tom, can you do one on the overhead smash please 🙏
Super❤
Greetings from Spain! Excellent content and explanation, Tom. Thanks for taking the time to record the video. I wonder how you are supposed to modify the swing for hitting with topspin and curve. Any thoughts?
Thanks! It’s the same thing just get the racket below the ball and have a steeper swing path.
Hi Tom,
Great video 👍. I’m excited! I am struggling with leading with the butt of the racket but your explanation referring to supination really makes it better! Does the inside out swing path or universal swing path fit into this too as I’m struggling with that part as well?
Thanks. Not sure what universal swing path means. It will always be inside out on more aggressive shots because the forehand is a rotational shot
@@TomAllsopp So fun texting with you! You’re like a superstar to me now🤓. The universal swing path is where the racket comes close to the body on the backswing and then swings out and away from the body to contact. Do you do that too? Whereas I swing more straight back and forward.
Hi Tom. With eastern grip like yours when I supinate the racket face opens too much. How do you manage to make it vertical to the ground at contact? When do you start pronating? Any tips please?
For the supination tip, somewhere I heard that gripping the racquet with the pinkie, ring and thumb and not as much with middle and index finger. Since I have a traditional eastern forehand grip, I feel this helps the racquet actually supinate because my index finger and knuckle isn't in the way of the supination. Any thoughts?
Hi Tom,
first of all thank you for your great content. You already helped me a lot to improve.
Would you recommend to use the analogy of skipping a stone for the two handed backhand (left arm movement for a right handed player)?
Thanks. Not really. it’s like throwing a medicine bal. The left arm won’t supinate as much as when you hit a forehand.
thanks for your reply
Question on the kinetic chain backswing - it should be shoulder's - hips - legs correct? Then on forward swing to contact legs - hips - shoulders - arm - raquet and thru contact raquet - arm - shoulders - hips. Is this the proper sequence?
Sounds right to me
@@TomAllsopp Thank you
djokovic has a real clear lag in his hit so for good exaample look at his forehand
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"pat the dog" instruction has made a lot of damage on forehands.
Agreed!