Drilling Into A TL 15 Safe!
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- čas přidán 12. 08. 2020
- TL 15 safes are the type of unit created for places like jewelry stores and pharmacies to operate under strict insurance stipulations. This specific TL safe is a TL 15 rated safe, meaning that it's been rated to survive safecracking by 2 experts in the Underwriters' Laboratories with most common mechanical and electrical tools for at least 15 minutes.
These safes are some of the sturdiest units an individual can buy to secure their property. TL rated safes feature special features to make them more secure, such as a steel ball-bearing hard plate to resist drills and a heavy concrete mix to protect from fire. The TL-15 safe we show in this video is at least 600 lbs!
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More like a TL-hour and half....now I know what kind of safe I need to be buying.
Security by obscurity is security theater
Amazing how far cordless drills have come! I think this video shows how hard it is to break through a TL15 safe. Never skimp on a safe, always go with a UL high security safe, saved my cash in a nighttime business robbery.
Have you seen the new Metabo BS 18 LTX-3 BL Q I yet? It has 4000 rpm.
The Amsec “almalgamation of steel nuggets and fiber” in the composite fill gave that drill hell! Cool video! If anyone has high valuables don’t settle for anything less than TL30 bolted down. Gun safes are a joke…
I suggest that you buy some good ridgid surgical scopes especially a 90 degree Storz/Hopkins
The flexible ones aren't bad but you need to keep adjusting them.
Is that a Group 1 or Group 2 lock, and would it make a difference with this technique?Perhaps I will weld a hard plate on top of the lock in my TL-15.
Thanks. I wouldn't have the patience. Good job!
Its' definitely a matter of patience, yeah. The original footage totaled over an hour! Thanks for watching! -Randall
This is a reupload of a video originally released on July 21st! We hope it's informative. If you like the video, don't forget to let us know here!
The drills jammed!
What happens when the tl15 safe has 2 combination locks, does that mean it will require double the time?
Just curious, what do you guys use to edit videos? I've been using windows movie maker, but it cant even do picture in picture, or video in video.. which I would love to be able to do.. Again, great work! thanks for doing these!
We used Adobe premiere elements for a time, but when we wanted to do some more advanced graphics, we upgraded to the full creative suite. It's pricey software, and I'm far from the best at using it, but I think we get by. Thanks for watching and asking! -Randall
Oh wow, thats the real deal! But it shows.. you guys do great work.. for what I do tho, I'll try to find something free, lol.. Thanks guys!
What model/make is this safe?
Some sites selling electronic locks, say some can decode a combination lock (Grade two) in 15minutes. Is this true or not real true in practical terms.
Lot easier to drill ? Thanks for posting must put some thing, over change key hole 😊
Very good video.. thank you...
Good job..
lol , I use that same light and always have to smack it on something
I may missed it because I skimmed through the video, but what makes a safe locking system fail to where you can't get into it? How long should a safe last?
It’s not that it fails, in this case they didn’t have the code, but if it’s a manual dial it can be many things and the same with the electronic. Both are for the most part reliable, but there are a variety of possibilities. - Uriah
@@GuardianSafeAndLock How often should have a safe lock maintained? I once had an issue after about 25 years but was thinking how dumb I was to wait so long have someone come out and maintain it.
@@Mike-01234 Hey thx for tuning in! I’d say every few years or so is fine, but the second you start to think something is different or starting to not work correctly, call a professional locksmith. If you wait to long it will eventually fail, whether or not it’s an electronic keypad or manual dial it will eventually get worse. Thx for watching please hit the subscribe button for weekly content!
Just got a Hollon TL 15 1814 model with SG lock and this video makes me feel a lot better thank you!!
What would he have done if it was a digital lock? I know some of the cheaper ones can be hooked up to electrodes to energize the solenoid, or connected to a computer to find the combo.
cheap ones and some swing bolts you can vibrate open or inject 100cc contact gel into the lock body.
what happens if they break off the digital unit on a Hollon TL? I see they are made to be replaced, but how would it open? If the unit has the code, not the safe, and the unit is knocked off and broken, how to you get back in? Thank you if you get time to answer. Very curious.
The code is stored in the lock body. Not the in the keypad.
Is there a way to stop a scope from bring used if crook used the same method you did on a comparable safe
Catch them before they finish. If a crook really wants to get in fast, they would use an exothermic torch. in and out in less than a minute. Of course, it takes skill since the torch could also burn up the valuables inside without good planning.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj Put a small pop rivet in the change key hole so it can't be used to view the wheels inside the lock. Have another cover in the safe without a rivet in the change key hole incase you ever need to change to combination. Just swap the cover and change the combo then replace the one with the rivet back on the lock.
Very nice video. Great way to show a technique without revealing too much detail.
Subscribed for more of this.
Thank you, we tried to show a little without showing too much. Thanks for watching!
What's your craziest story of somebody trying to get you to drill a safe that didn't belong to them? How far have people gone to try to trick you? Has anyone ever been successful?
How long did it take to crack this?
Billy Te it probably took him an hour
Would having a digital keypad lock make it more difficult to employ a camera in that way to open the dial lock.
Well, it wo be impossible to employ this technique as there are no wheels in an electronic lock. Drilling an electronic lock depends on the type of locking mechanism used but is a totally different technique. Not necessarily harder, but different. Depending on the electronic lock and bolt work and relockers it could be much harder though.
How much harder is a tl30x6 to drill through? I’m looking at a Chubb Treasury and Chubb Trident.
One of the hardest to get in…. It just means all six sides are rated.
Do you have experience with the Chubb brand?
Could that safe have been opened the same way if it had an electronic lock
Different method
Still just seems to easy to drill into. Don't they make anything with a harder outer shell that would eat drill bits?
It's even easier to just use an exothermic torch. If the criminal has the time to be drilling/cutting into your safe, it is already compromised.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj Well a torch would destroy whatever is inside wouldn't it? And I imagine it would still take some type
@@locklear308 For sure, but you can mitigate a lot of the risk in the technique. Obviously if you are trying to get paper documents it would be a bad idea. But stuff like precious metals or even guns wouldn't see too much damage.
The safe is just to buy you time and first and foremost as a deterrent. It doesn't actually stop a criminal, just like a video surveillance system doesn't stop criminals either. Both layers of security require human intervention.
I guess a stethoscope would have been out of the question.
This was a scrap safe so we just messed around with it, and didn't take it to seriously. Of course there are at least 5 different ways to do this, but we chose this way.
So a TL 15 is definitely worth the money! Hey what rating in your experience is the toughest to beat?
TL-30 6x6
@@GuardianSafeAndLock TL 60x6=$$$$
I'm saving up for my vintage Chubb Sovereign. 😆
@@hkssystemslocksafe2486 what does the 6x6 stand for?
@@BrandonWallach all 6 sides are rated and reinforced.
Instead of scoping for the change key hole, have you tried scoping for the gates instead, I think it's much easier to see. I've only practice using a lock on a mount, but it gets confusing sometimes for me. My friend explained to me how to do it, got to keep practicing.
Yes we have used that method, it’s bc of the hard plate. Decided to go around it lol
@@GuardianSafeAndLock No, I mean, still look thru the change key hole, but instead align the gates at the change key hole. That's what I meant.
@@ken_9359 that key hole should have a steel screwed down cover to prevent viewing with the scope. A surprisingly weak point. If ever have a safe of this quality im covering that hole
@@ethorii one can still drill through the lockbody and scope the wheels.
That safe could have been opened like that in 15 Minutes
I just want to get into my safe because I locked the key inside. I had a bit of confusion as I was sick with COVID. I’ve tried everything. Don’t care about safe just need my stuff out. We old folks do strange things. I’m desperate and see no hope. Did every uTube video which I now think they are fake. I have a torn up lock and combination (batteries were dead.)
What kind of safe? If I know that I can possibly help
Great Video!
Objective and with real Information Value and at the same time Professionally Correct with the blur sections not giving a chance to stupid wannabe criminals even to try it, because... they watched it on CZcams and it is easy!
By the way with monsters with TRTL 60x6 rating the task is much, much harder!
Thank you we appreciate the support, we got a lot of flack for this video. So we made sure to do our diligence and not expose too much, but of course we still had a lot of snowflakes cry about it lol.
@@GuardianSafeAndLock I think a big part of the issue is that people can't accept that security is layered and not foolproof. People want something singular for peace of mind, but security is really about making it hard, as it is never impossible to breach. Vigilance is always the best security.
What's the deal with all the distracting noise in the background.
The suite was under construction
99.9% of attempted home thieves do not have this kind of time or tools to successfully break into a TL15 safe.
Exactly when I posted this video a few “offended professionals” reached out and complained saying now someone can watch this and get in… I was like really? I doubt it lol
Thanks for watching!