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@@spacemanx9595 I mean sure but like why couldn't you think on it and come to the realization that they're using their phones to buzz in? Especially after Joan's buzzer goes off when she interacts with her phone? Like why is the assumption they have to be cheating? How else did you think they were buzzing in? I immediately assumed they were using an app of some kind on their phones to make this show happen fairly with the buzzers.
This is why I checked the comments. Looked sus. But I didn't want to throw unwarranted shade. Especially when only one contestant had their phone very visible in a lot of it.
I just want to mention, that a fall from great height is also often reserved for villains who have a high opinion of themselves. It's symbolic of a fall from their desired station: above everyone else. Seeing them build themselves up, often through their progression in the story sets them up for their literal "downfall". "Gaston" through lyrics, "Be Prepared" through visuals (mainly) are meant to convey either how great the characters thinks they are, or how great they *want* to be seen as. So the real message is not for villains to be careful of heights, but to be careful of pride and arrogance.
While that's a nice thought and certainly part of it, let's not act like "fall from a great height and don't show the body" isn't a pretty convenient way to a) show death without a body or mutilation or shock and b) a chance to keep plausible deniability in case you want the character to return.
16:19 Um actually, at the time of this show's recording Princess Leia had ALSO been officially recognized as a Disney Princess because Carrie Fisher had passed away and making the character a princess was Walt Disney Studios' way of honoring her. The character had an official coronation ceremony and everything. So there are technically 13 officially recognized princesses, not 12.
Um actually, at the time of this show's recording Disney had also acquired The Simpsons. Lisa and Maggie are both daughters of The Chosen one. There are 15 Disney princesses.
@@Refleksy Those two did not take part in an official princess crowning ceremony so they are not officially part of the Princess brand. If this was the case then Alexa Bliss would be also a Disney Princess.
@@Refleksy you do realise how many princess' there are in Disney media right? There is absolutely no way in hell it's under 20 if you count literally everything that is owned by Disney. The only things that count are ones that have officially been corronated
Not an Um Actually, but just an elaboration: I believe that Robin Williams refused to come back for Aladdin 2 (and also the Disney channel animated series) due to some issues with Disney surrounding marketing. Williams actually took the role on the condition that his involvement in the film be downplayed, so as to not overshadow his other projects at the time. He wanted to be paid the union minimum, for there to be no merchandise, and for the genie himself not to take up any more than 25% of any given piece of marketing. Disney only fully honoured that first request (that one was easy obviously) and, feeling betrayed, Williams stepped away from the movie. As well as not voicing the Genie again in the aforementioned features, he wasn't in any of the special releases, the interviews, and even the "Art of Aladdin" book only ever refers to him as "The Voice of the Genie". He also gave a super passive aggressive speech when he won an honorary award from the golden globes for the role, which was pretty fun. Highly recommend the Supercarlinbrothers' video "Robin Williams Was Almost Not Genie?!" for all the details. :-)
Slightly incorrect, but only slightly. Disney actually upheld both sides of the contract, but only technically. Robin wanted to be featured on only 25% of advertisements, aka only 1 out of every 4 advertisements. However, Disney put him on every single advertisement but made sure the genie covered less than 25% of the area of the advertisement, which you'll note is quite a lot. They just pretended there was a misunderstanding
Two other things I’ve heard were that Disney also tried to claim that Williams’s wife gave them permission to fudge the advertisement contract, and that though Williams DID eventually play the Genie again he did a lot of educational videos in the role to have more of a positive effect.
A great Super Carlin Brothers' video. I also recommend Lindsay Ellis's video, "How Aladdin Changed Animation (by Screwing Over Robin Williams)" on the topic: czcams.com/video/nyiBdccfNkg/video.html
the rules were in fact changed for Mulan, and you can now become a disney princess through " an extreme act of heroism ", which is the rule they made just for her to be included, also isnt the girl from wreck-it ralph considered a part of the princess line?
I remember the quote better than I thought, then. I said "extreme act of bravery, like saving China." for my guess. Vanellope von Schweetz is not a Princess. She mentions in the movie that she wants to be a democratic leader. The Princesses she meets in the sequel think she has all the hallmarks of a Princess, but she rejects them.
@@TheDanishGuyReviews yes I knew she wasn't a princess, I thought she had gotten added due to her extreme act of bravery, maybe that was just a fan theory
Vanellope is a Princess from a Disney property, but she’s not one of the characters included in the Disney Princess merchandise line. Based on the merchandising choices Disney made for Encanto, I believe they choose “aspirational beauties” for the line, and a kid like Vanellope doesn’t fit
It’s also the reason Meg doesn’t count, even though her love interest is technically the Prince of Olympus and committed an act of great heroism. The real reason she’s not included tho is because Hercules didn’t make enough money. Ironically Frozen made too much money so Elsa and Anna don’t count either, as they fall into their own category.
I think one of the Disney deaths that sorta stuck with me was Mother Gothel in Tangled. It's not because it was super gruesome or gory but just how she starts falling and completely disappears before she even hits the ground. Like... with other deaths there's evidence that this person once existed but with her, she's just gone. And the sound of tthe cloak... somehow that scene gets me more than the actual death scenes in other movies. Although I have to say that Scar is a close second. They implication of what happens to him makes me shudder.
the fact that 1, pascal actively trips her using the hair, and then 2 and this is not so important but in the sequel tv series rapunzel is litterally blamed for gothels death when that was basically her mother tho incredibly abusive and sht died like that after presumably killing someone else w blood actually showing
I will say, it WAS actually pretty gresome. The way she shrivels into an old, old woman before being intentionally tripped by one of the animal sidekicks was hella traumatising. Also, her shrieks and screams are haunting.
Missed an opportunity to throw in a really obscure Kingdom Hearts question that would either befuddle everyone or force them to explain some of the more "fever dream-esque" moments.
That would have been absolutely hilarious. Talking about Donald and Goofy fighting ultimate anime swordsman Sephiroth for a question would have made me lose my mind
Flounder's coloration would suggest he is an juvenile blue tang, the same fish as Dory, who as a juvenile just appeared to be a miniature adult blue tang.
Um Actually, Williams' dispute with Disney is well-documented. He agreed to do it on the sole condition that his appearance in the film would never be used, and I quote "to sell something, like Burger King, like toys." He was specifically opposed to the use of his voice to sell merchandising tie-ins. Makes sense, as he was at the time also doing another animated film, Ferngully, which had strong environmentalist, anti-capitalist themes. It was also, from what I recall, a passion project for him. Not that Aladdin was merely a paycheck for him, mind you. Disney sold him on the character of the genie, and he fell in love with it.
It's not just that he agreed to do it, it's that he agreed to do it at the standard SAG rate, not what he himself would've commanded at that point in his career. He took a MASSIVE pay cut because he liked the project, and Disney just shat all over that good will.
Um Actually, Fern Gully came out well before Aladdin and hearing Williams's voice work in that movie is what inspired Disney to bring Williams onto the project. The film Williams was worried Aladdin would compete with was his passion project, Toys.
@@bretterry8356 Um Actually, they came out the same year. Ferngully came out in April 1992, Aladdin in November. Production for Aladdin started in the late 80's and they had an approved script by early 1991, a full year before Ferngully came out. Add to the fact that Robin Williams' lines were mostly ad-libbed, meaning they'd have to animate most of the genie's speaking lines _after_ they recorded Williams. Also, Williams was already pretty infamous for being a frenetic chaos goblin by that point in time.
The funniest things they could have done for the last shiny question was to make the answer Jack Whitehall. Technically he did voice a troll in Frozen- he recorded it and even did promotion for it, but they cut his scene in editing. Mike loves trick questions
Oh that Disney Princesses question all they had to do was mention the royal lineage and I screamed at the TV “NOT MULAN” well before they listed who was in it. Low key killed this episode
This is actually why The Evil Stepmother in Cinderella stands out to me still. The Queen in Snow White is in rain and lightening, leaning back cackling, and falls to her death. The Stepmother just has a sharp tone "do them again!" and sits in shadow; she has the most horrible small-scale glare, she has it when she's sitting in shadow stroking Lucifer (she named, her cat, lucifer) and she has it before she locks Cinderella away. She smirks when she shatters the shoe, she'd rather destroy any hope for cinderella than anything else. She has nothing but cruel subtle acts that successfully destroy all hope around her ... and she doesnt die. Nothing happens to her. So many disney villains face horrible deaths and she just ... continues life, probably punishing her daughters by extension as the only slaves she has left.
I seem to remember the basis for Lady Tremaine might've also modeled for Maleficent. Eleanor Audley: I was right, had to check. And she was the voice for both.
@@ToHoldNothing wow, I didn't know that! I sometimes forget the older disney classics have voice actors; i never thought to ever check who voiced each dwarf or anything like that. Edit: ive looked into it and i forget how all-star cast some of them are, like Lion King. I didnt know Young Simba was the kid from Home Improvement! But knew the rest of them. Same with Iago being Gilbert Godfried, or Angela Lansbury as Mrs Potts. My favourite one is always how often Jim Cummings is involved whenever a 'film actor' struggles with their voice. I guess im thinking Princesses specifically i wouldnt have a clue who voiced half of them (which I do know, for snow white at least, that was an unfortunate contract thing...)
@@B-MC I still feel like I should remember the voice actor for Baloo and the like by heart, but I don't, sadly. Same with Kaa and Sir Hiss, he's done several Disney works, iirc
@@B-MC I forget where I even learned about Maleficent's voice actor, though I think it was an extra on a DVD or something like that, similar to others that explain things about the animation process back in the day and how they used live action models to make the animation more realistic, even back with Snow White
@@ToHoldNothing ah the days where Snow White had special features at the end of the video, or the Power Rangers (turbo) movie had an 'exclusive episode' for power rangers in space at the end of it.
Just popping in the comments to say that the set of books that "The Black Cauldron" is based on is known as the Chronicles of Prydain, written by Lloyd Alexander. The books are excellent and very much tailored to a young/preteen audience. A great way to introduce people to the high fantasy genre. It's just a pity that Disney took 5 books and tried to make a single movie out of them... Rather the opposite of what happens nowadays...
Another thing to note is that originally the film was a lot longer and significantly darker , especially the final battle and Disney specifically cut a lot of the movie because they didn't want to alienate ypunger audiences. They didn't replace these scenes because by that point they were significantly over-budget which is why when the movie flopped, it came very close to actually ending Walt Disney Pictures. With that in mind, since Disney is pushing more darker and edgier films and shows with the creation of STAR; And they love making live-action remakes of old animated films, it would be great time to capitalise and make Disneys first R/18 rated movie/tv show under the Disney Brand with of course, the right creative team and director, in the form of a Chronicles of Prydain series called "The Black Cauldron".
Um, actually Lilo & Stitch is the perfect Disney movie. The scene where Stitch says goodbye and the "Ohana means family" scenes, where stitch leaves make me cry every single time I've watched this movie and I've watched it a lot of times.
its my favoritedisney movie of but it doesnt feel as ""disney"" as movies like the lion king do imo. however i'd say it IS a perfect movie just not a perfect ""disney"" movie
Mulan qualifies as a princess under "acts of heroism," a stipulation they added to include her. I also think it's a good way to add Mirabel into the princesses, maybe?
Mirabel is still a daughter in a family that basically rules (or at least acts responsible for) a town, personally think she’s basically a princess 😂 definitely not a common townsperson anyway
As stands for the lineup question- Um actually there’s a classification rule that was made specifically for Mulan that included Acts of Heroism as a way to become a princess rather than royal ties
As a person that just finished my enrolled agent exam, I could not stop laughing at the real life question. It's the first time I've felt like the only one that knew the answer
I suspect that “A Part of Your World” was ineligible for an original song Oscar because it wasn’t sufficiently original. Alan Menken and Howard Ashman made the soundtracks for Little Mermaid and Little Shop of Horrors, and the “I want” songs “Somewhere That’s Green” and “A Part of Your World” are so similar that Menken nicknamed Ariel’s song, “Somewhere That’s Wet.”
Fun fact: Flounders are not born flat with both eyes on one side of it's body. When it hatches it looks like a normal fish, but as it ages one of it's eyeball starts to migrate towards the other one and shape of the side without the eye changes drastically over time.
I was amused by Moana's claim not to be a princess and Maui's reasons she really is. In actuality, she was from a long line of rulers expected to inheret the rolenof ruler and female. THAT is the definition of a princess.
@@Sam_on_CZcams true but it's not the same thing because the system is different. if in Moana it was a similar system to monarchy then yes even if the official title isn't princess she would be considered a princess. however it was monarchy going on there it was a tribe like thing with a leader leaders and kings are different. hence not a princess still a leader
@@niharika3280 The definition of "monarch" is "head of state for life or until abducation." That fits their system, as depicted. A prince or princess is someone in line to inherit a role as a monarch. That fits. The size of the kingdom is not a factor.
I am just the right age to remember The Rescuers Down Under being heavily hyped in all the promotional materials as the first animated sequel with a theatrical release, so Disney would agree with you that The Three Caballeros doesn't count.
The second you mentioned falling deaths, I too thought of Clayton. I thought he was going to be the one mentioned that didn't die of a falling death. That one stuck so vividly in my head.
I'll add that in "Return of Jafar", it's Dan Castellaneta (the voice actor for Homer Simpson) who voices the Genie. (He also voices Genie in the Kingdom Hearts video game series)
Also, It's a super interesting insight that "Part of your world" is much better than "Under the sea". It isn't, not musically, but as a dramatic performance, it is far more transformative, and tells a story with both plot and emotional change over it's arc. Couldn't criticize anyone would taking the former over the latter!
I don't think anyone should say that one is much better than the other, musically speaking; they're completely different in style and arrangement, so it'd be impossible to make a direct comparison like that. They're both really good, musically.
I would say that the Dragon slaying in Sleeping Beauty is one of, if not the, most horrifying death in Disney. It is the most graphic one at least since I can't think of another Disney movie they actually show a weapon piercing the body and blood spilling out of a wound. Most of the other gruesome deaths are usually implied or in silhouette.
I know it's not a death but watching Hercules grow old really fast terrified the hell out of me when I was a kid. Swimming through all of those green souls growing older closer to death.
There certainly was blood in that scene, Ursula it was more in silhouette. Now I just want to see if there's a compilation of Disney villain deaths, because I feel like there might be another that dies by impalement
If there were to be a film that "escaped from the Disney Vault" to see a home release, it'd have to be Song of the South; ain't nobody just letting THAT stroll out without a fight. ... though I imagine if it tried, the order would be shoot on sight, so it's hardly likely to happen.
The most they've done was some of the animated bits, iirc, I remember seeing them in a commercial or a video that had them, because I remember Zippedee doo dah, though I didn't watch the full film until 2009~ when I was a senior in college
There have been very many great episodes. This is the greatest! So much mutual love ❤️ and support! Oscar's excellent taste in movies! Joan's appreciation of the music 🎶 that speaks to the transgender soul. Thank you!
Emperor's New Groove is my favorite Disney movie, and I would love to see Temple of the Sun in an alternate universe. Used to play the Playstation game just to hear the music and look at the scenery/buildings.
Not an Um Actually, but just an elaboration: Jeffrey Katzenberg wanted to cut "Part of Your World" from the film due to children being bored during that section in a screening. So I'm glad to see so much love for that song.
@@TabbyclawAs an adult, that cut devastates me. But as a kid, I would have applauded it. Used to fast forward through it every time because I was uncultured swine, especially compared to the highly sophisticated swine in Muppet Christmas Carol.
15:57 Um actually, The process of being a Disney princess is a lot more complex than the statement suggests. It comes down to 5 parts: 1. The character must complete all of these 3 characteristics: a) Must have a primary role b) Must be human c) Must not be introduced in a sequel 2. The character must then complete one of these 3 plot points: a) Born into royalty b) Married into royalty c) Performed a significant act of heroism (Mainly for Mulan and Moana) 3. Box Office success (It's Disney, what are you going to do) 4. Must not have their own franchise (This is why Anna, Elsa and Tinker Bell are not princesses) 5. (and this was pointed out by Maoi) Must have an animal sidekick (Aurora and Snow White have the animals of the forest, Cinderella has Jacques, Gus Gus, Major, etc; Ariel has Flounder, Sebastian and Scuttle; Belle has Philippe, Jasmine has Rajah, Pocahontas has Meeko and Flit; Mulan has Mushu, Tiana has Raymond and Louis; Rapunzel has Pascal, Merida has Angus, and Moana has Pua/ Hei Hei.
Fun fact I learnt recently is that Tinkerbell actually appeared to be in the original line up for the Disney Princesses unti; slowly being phased out and the release of Disney Fairies (and later the Tinkerbell movies)
That Pleasure Island scene where they're puffing on cigars may've lead to me getting into them as an adult. It always looked so enjoyable to me. Turns out it was. Though when Pinocchio accidentally "swallows" or breathes in the long drag to look cool, that feeling is very real....
Fun fact, while not mentioned in the movie (though possibly implied from their shared strong chins), the character Clayton is based on in the Tarzan books is actually Tarzan's cousin.
A video on a Wednesday? What a treat! My favorite Disney movie is probably Black Cauldron. That was a great movie. My favorite "modern day" one is Lilo & Stitch and Emperor's New Groove.
Just a clarification: Disney did NOT rip off Kimba. Watch YourMovieSuck's 2 hour video essay about that topic. Short summary: all those comparison videos accusing Disney of copying scenes from Kimba are disingenuous, because the Kimba footage shown is either newer than Lion King, very generic footage (like a fight), or misleading (like making it seem that a warthog plays a big role in Kimba, which it doesn't. Kimba is also a series and a film series, so there's a lot of footage and of course some of it will be similar to Lion King, but the plots couldn't be more different.
Ooooh. Gonna resist watching this so I can watch it with my mom an we can kinda play along. SO glad you did a themed episode on something we'll both know!
I don't care how on point his impression is, how's his "The Aristocrats"? Actually, that's not entirely true. I suppose I could be convinced to care if he recorded the entire audiobook series for 50 Shades of Grey.
@@jeffquinz2118 IKR. When I made this post two months ago, I didn't know the man was already struggling with health problems. I was expecting Oscar to gun for those raspy voice roles 10 years from now. RIP Mr. Gottfried, RIP.
Um Actually, S-corp income is not taxed as a dividend. It's taxed as passthrough income (i.e. ordinary income) just like an LLC would be. The difference is that S-corp earnings are not subject to self employment (SE) tax (which is both the employee and employer portions of social security and medicare).
Least fun correction, but - The S-corp thing is straight up wrong. Your S-corp income gets taxed as ordinary income, not subject to self-employment. This does give it favorable treatment with regards to FICA like they say, but it's not the same as being a dividend. Dividends would be subject to net investment income tax as well - s-corp income is not (generally). Dividends from an S-corp would also probably be de facto qualified dividends, which would qualify for the lower long-term capital gains rate (maxes out at 20% + net investment income tax) vs ordinary income rates (maxes out at 37%). Also, an LLC can elect to be taxed as a C corporation. The C corporation can then apply for an S election to be treated as an S corp, so it's technically wrong too to say a single-member LLC can elect to be taxed as a sole proprietorship or an S corp.
The villain death thing got me because I could see it in my head Scar falling and then when I heard how he died it's like a movie scene of who actually died
FYI the contestants buzz in with their phones which is why they're on them the whole episode! No cheating scheme happening folks
I thought that was pretty sus
They should say this because it literally looked like they were looking up answers and pulled me out of the episode
@@spacemanx9595 I mean sure but like why couldn't you think on it and come to the realization that they're using their phones to buzz in? Especially after Joan's buzzer goes off when she interacts with her phone? Like why is the assumption they have to be cheating? How else did you think they were buzzing in? I immediately assumed they were using an app of some kind on their phones to make this show happen fairly with the buzzers.
Yea. But you forgot to say "Um actually" so you don't get a point.
This is why I checked the comments. Looked sus. But I didn't want to throw unwarranted shade. Especially when only one contestant had their phone very visible in a lot of it.
"It's not the fall that kills you..."
"It's the sudden stop?"
"No, the ravening hyenas."
I just want to mention, that a fall from great height is also often reserved for villains who have a high opinion of themselves. It's symbolic of a fall from their desired station: above everyone else. Seeing them build themselves up, often through their progression in the story sets them up for their literal "downfall". "Gaston" through lyrics, "Be Prepared" through visuals (mainly) are meant to convey either how great the characters thinks they are, or how great they *want* to be seen as.
So the real message is not for villains to be careful of heights, but to be careful of pride and arrogance.
While that's a nice thought and certainly part of it, let's not act like "fall from a great height and don't show the body" isn't a pretty convenient way to a) show death without a body or mutilation or shock and b) a chance to keep plausible deniability in case you want the character to return.
Apparently this show has such control of my life that when I saw this episode my brain instantly switched to Friday mode
Yep I too was confused about what day it is for a second or two. 😁
This just made me sad it’s not friday
That’s good content 😅
Same! I even got panicky because there's an important thing I do Thursdays and I thought I forgot yesterday.
Wait. Ugh this just killed my mood. I thought it was Friday for a minute.
Fun fact: If you freeze frame Gaston falling to his death his pupils are actually tiny skulls
Say, what now???
16:19 Um actually, at the time of this show's recording Princess Leia had ALSO been officially recognized as a Disney Princess because Carrie Fisher had passed away and making the character a princess was Walt Disney Studios' way of honoring her. The character had an official coronation ceremony and everything. So there are technically 13 officially recognized princesses, not 12.
Um actually, at the time of this show's recording Disney had also acquired The Simpsons. Lisa and Maggie are both daughters of The Chosen one. There are 15 Disney princesses.
@@Refleksy Those two did not take part in an official princess crowning ceremony so they are not officially part of the Princess brand. If this was the case then Alexa Bliss would be also a Disney Princess.
@@Refleksy you do realise how many princess' there are in Disney media right? There is absolutely no way in hell it's under 20 if you count literally everything that is owned by Disney.
The only things that count are ones that have officially been corronated
Um, Actually, theyre talking about Disney characters. Not Disney PURCHASED characters
@@MylkT1023 They were talking about the "Disney Princess" brand, which this was referring to
Not an Um Actually, but just an elaboration: I believe that Robin Williams refused to come back for Aladdin 2 (and also the Disney channel animated series) due to some issues with Disney surrounding marketing. Williams actually took the role on the condition that his involvement in the film be downplayed, so as to not overshadow his other projects at the time. He wanted to be paid the union minimum, for there to be no merchandise, and for the genie himself not to take up any more than 25% of any given piece of marketing. Disney only fully honoured that first request (that one was easy obviously) and, feeling betrayed, Williams stepped away from the movie. As well as not voicing the Genie again in the aforementioned features, he wasn't in any of the special releases, the interviews, and even the "Art of Aladdin" book only ever refers to him as "The Voice of the Genie". He also gave a super passive aggressive speech when he won an honorary award from the golden globes for the role, which was pretty fun.
Highly recommend the Supercarlinbrothers' video "Robin Williams Was Almost Not Genie?!" for all the details. :-)
Slightly incorrect, but only slightly. Disney actually upheld both sides of the contract, but only technically. Robin wanted to be featured on only 25% of advertisements, aka only 1 out of every 4 advertisements. However, Disney put him on every single advertisement but made sure the genie covered less than 25% of the area of the advertisement, which you'll note is quite a lot. They just pretended there was a misunderstanding
Two other things I’ve heard were that Disney also tried to claim that Williams’s wife gave them permission to fudge the advertisement contract, and that though Williams DID eventually play the Genie again he did a lot of educational videos in the role to have more of a positive effect.
A great Super Carlin Brothers' video. I also recommend Lindsay Ellis's video, "How Aladdin Changed Animation (by Screwing Over Robin Williams)" on the topic:
czcams.com/video/nyiBdccfNkg/video.html
Lindsay Ellis also has a good video on the whole conflict
Then they bullied him when he was working on furngully
the rules were in fact changed for Mulan, and you can now become a disney princess through " an extreme act of heroism ", which is the rule they made just for her to be included, also isnt the girl from wreck-it ralph considered a part of the princess line?
I remember the quote better than I thought, then. I said "extreme act of bravery, like saving China." for my guess. Vanellope von Schweetz is not a Princess. She mentions in the movie that she wants to be a democratic leader. The Princesses she meets in the sequel think she has all the hallmarks of a Princess, but she rejects them.
@@TheDanishGuyReviews yes I knew she wasn't a princess, I thought she had gotten added due to her extreme act of bravery, maybe that was just a fan theory
Vanellope is a Princess from a Disney property, but she’s not one of the characters included in the Disney Princess merchandise line. Based on the merchandising choices Disney made for Encanto, I believe they choose “aspirational beauties” for the line, and a kid like Vanellope doesn’t fit
@@MrLarry Restricting it only to princesses is pretty limiting these days anyway.
It’s also the reason Meg doesn’t count, even though her love interest is technically the Prince of Olympus and committed an act of great heroism.
The real reason she’s not included tho is because Hercules didn’t make enough money.
Ironically Frozen made too much money so Elsa and Anna don’t count either, as they fall into their own category.
I think one of the Disney deaths that sorta stuck with me was Mother Gothel in Tangled. It's not because it was super gruesome or gory but just how she starts falling and completely disappears before she even hits the ground. Like... with other deaths there's evidence that this person once existed but with her, she's just gone. And the sound of tthe cloak... somehow that scene gets me more than the actual death scenes in other movies. Although I have to say that Scar is a close second. They implication of what happens to him makes me shudder.
Mother Gothel was my first thought as a gruesome Disney death honestly.
the fact that 1, pascal actively trips her using the hair, and then 2 and this is not so important but in the sequel tv series rapunzel is litterally blamed for gothels death when that was basically her mother tho incredibly abusive and sht died like that after presumably killing someone else w blood actually showing
Dr. Facilier is pretty brutal too. Literally getting dragged into whatever messed up version of hell or whatever.
oh yeah six-year-old me watching that was TERRIFIED
I will say, it WAS actually pretty gresome. The way she shrivels into an old, old woman before being intentionally tripped by one of the animal sidekicks was hella traumatising. Also, her shrieks and screams are haunting.
Missed an opportunity to throw in a really obscure Kingdom Hearts question that would either befuddle everyone or force them to explain some of the more "fever dream-esque" moments.
That would have been absolutely hilarious. Talking about Donald and Goofy fighting ultimate anime swordsman Sephiroth for a question would have made me lose my mind
@@yourstruly9013 Um, Actually, both Sephiroth fights are 1 on 1, so Donald and Goofy never actually fight him.
what have I become...
@@lazyhammerwieldingpenguin2247 everything you hate. probably.
I was thinking that when they brought up Leonard Nimoy
Flounder's coloration would suggest he is an juvenile blue tang, the same fish as Dory, who as a juvenile just appeared to be a miniature adult blue tang.
Um Actually, Williams' dispute with Disney is well-documented. He agreed to do it on the sole condition that his appearance in the film would never be used, and I quote "to sell something, like Burger King, like toys." He was specifically opposed to the use of his voice to sell merchandising tie-ins.
Makes sense, as he was at the time also doing another animated film, Ferngully, which had strong environmentalist, anti-capitalist themes. It was also, from what I recall, a passion project for him.
Not that Aladdin was merely a paycheck for him, mind you. Disney sold him on the character of the genie, and he fell in love with it.
and they gave him a Picasso painting as an appology.
And the way they sold him on it was to have the animators animate the Genie doing his stand-up. Lindsey Ellis did a fantastic video on it.
It's not just that he agreed to do it, it's that he agreed to do it at the standard SAG rate, not what he himself would've commanded at that point in his career. He took a MASSIVE pay cut because he liked the project, and Disney just shat all over that good will.
Um Actually, Fern Gully came out well before Aladdin and hearing Williams's voice work in that movie is what inspired Disney to bring Williams onto the project. The film Williams was worried Aladdin would compete with was his passion project, Toys.
@@bretterry8356 Um Actually, they came out the same year. Ferngully came out in April 1992, Aladdin in November. Production for Aladdin started in the late 80's and they had an approved script by early 1991, a full year before Ferngully came out. Add to the fact that Robin Williams' lines were mostly ad-libbed, meaning they'd have to animate most of the genie's speaking lines _after_ they recorded Williams. Also, Williams was already pretty infamous for being a frenetic chaos goblin by that point in time.
The funniest things they could have done for the last shiny question was to make the answer Jack Whitehall. Technically he did voice a troll in Frozen- he recorded it and even did promotion for it, but they cut his scene in editing. Mike loves trick questions
I love how the title for this episode is just "Disney". Not even something like Disney Special.
Just Disney.
Oh that Disney Princesses question all they had to do was mention the royal lineage and I screamed at the TV “NOT MULAN” well before they listed who was in it. Low key killed this episode
This is actually why The Evil Stepmother in Cinderella stands out to me still. The Queen in Snow White is in rain and lightening, leaning back cackling, and falls to her death.
The Stepmother just has a sharp tone "do them again!" and sits in shadow; she has the most horrible small-scale glare, she has it when she's sitting in shadow stroking Lucifer (she named, her cat, lucifer) and she has it before she locks Cinderella away. She smirks when she shatters the shoe, she'd rather destroy any hope for cinderella than anything else. She has nothing but cruel subtle acts that successfully destroy all hope around her ... and she doesnt die. Nothing happens to her. So many disney villains face horrible deaths and she just ... continues life, probably punishing her daughters by extension as the only slaves she has left.
I seem to remember the basis for Lady Tremaine might've also modeled for Maleficent. Eleanor Audley: I was right, had to check. And she was the voice for both.
@@ToHoldNothing wow, I didn't know that! I sometimes forget the older disney classics have voice actors; i never thought to ever check who voiced each dwarf or anything like that.
Edit: ive looked into it and i forget how all-star cast some of them are, like Lion King. I didnt know Young Simba was the kid from Home Improvement! But knew the rest of them. Same with Iago being Gilbert Godfried, or Angela Lansbury as Mrs Potts. My favourite one is always how often Jim Cummings is involved whenever a 'film actor' struggles with their voice.
I guess im thinking Princesses specifically i wouldnt have a clue who voiced half of them (which I do know, for snow white at least, that was an unfortunate contract thing...)
@@B-MC I still feel like I should remember the voice actor for Baloo and the like by heart, but I don't, sadly. Same with Kaa and Sir Hiss, he's done several Disney works, iirc
@@B-MC I forget where I even learned about Maleficent's voice actor, though I think it was an extra on a DVD or something like that, similar to others that explain things about the animation process back in the day and how they used live action models to make the animation more realistic, even back with Snow White
@@ToHoldNothing ah the days where Snow White had special features at the end of the video, or the Power Rangers (turbo) movie had an 'exclusive episode' for power rangers in space at the end of it.
Just popping in the comments to say that the set of books that "The Black Cauldron" is based on is known as the Chronicles of Prydain, written by Lloyd Alexander. The books are excellent and very much tailored to a young/preteen audience. A great way to introduce people to the high fantasy genre. It's just a pity that Disney took 5 books and tried to make a single movie out of them... Rather the opposite of what happens nowadays...
Another thing to note is that originally the film was a lot longer and significantly darker , especially the final battle and Disney specifically cut a lot of the movie because they didn't want to alienate ypunger audiences.
They didn't replace these scenes because by that point they were significantly over-budget which is why when the movie flopped, it came very close to actually ending Walt Disney Pictures.
With that in mind, since Disney is pushing more darker and edgier films and shows with the creation of STAR; And they love making live-action remakes of old animated films, it would be great time to capitalise and make Disneys first R/18 rated movie/tv show under the Disney Brand with of course, the right creative team and director, in the form of a Chronicles of Prydain series called "The Black Cauldron".
Joan's lowkey Meg cosplay is fantastic, but ALSO Dani's outfit and makeup give me Hercules vibes so together they are EXCELLENT.
Um, actually Lilo & Stitch is the perfect Disney movie.
The scene where Stitch says goodbye and the "Ohana means family" scenes, where stitch leaves make me cry every single time I've watched this movie and I've watched it a lot of times.
its my favoritedisney movie of but it doesnt feel as ""disney"" as movies like the lion king do imo. however i'd say it IS a perfect movie just not a perfect ""disney"" movie
I haven't dared watch lilo and stitch since I was a kid because the end made me cry every time back then
This was a pretty excellent display of Disney nerd knowledge. I'm a pretty big fan, but a few of these questions would have stumped me!
Mulan qualifies as a princess under "acts of heroism," a stipulation they added to include her. I also think it's a good way to add Mirabel into the princesses, maybe?
Mirabel is still a daughter in a family that basically rules (or at least acts responsible for) a town, personally think she’s basically a princess 😂 definitely not a common townsperson anyway
I'm always amazed by Joan's encyclopedic knowledge whenever she's on the show 🤩
I too am amazed people can type one handed so fast into Google.
Joan vs Gutz would be a showdown for the ages 😂 Also, she needs to be in an all star game 🙌
As stands for the lineup question- Um actually there’s a classification rule that was made specifically for Mulan that included Acts of Heroism as a way to become a princess rather than royal ties
I want there to be a statement where the answer is just “umm actually, there is nothing wrong with that, it is all correct”
As a person that just finished my enrolled agent exam, I could not stop laughing at the real life question. It's the first time I've felt like the only one that knew the answer
I suspect that “A Part of Your World” was ineligible for an original song Oscar because it wasn’t sufficiently original. Alan Menken and Howard Ashman made the soundtracks for Little Mermaid and Little Shop of Horrors, and the “I want” songs “Somewhere That’s Green” and “A Part of Your World” are so similar that Menken nicknamed Ariel’s song, “Somewhere That’s Wet.”
The Black Cauldron is the Bruno of Disney movies
Good episode. just want to say thank you for giving Atlantis some much needed love and attention
"From Belle to Sebastian..."
That's it, the episode's already peaked, there's no topping that.
I don't get it
@@geneva1895 Belle and Sebastian is a band
@@naberz08 It's also a 2013 movie series based on a 1966 novel based on a 1965 TV series.
I love the Black Cauldron, especially when I was a kid. I watched it on repeat so many times that my mom ended up hating the movie because of it
Surprised that Dumbo was supposedly mine, but it also must've sucked for anyone who babysat me, it's barely over an hour long
Is there a Joan vs Brennan episode? That would be epic
I am a fan of all of these contestants. I do have to admit that I definitely yelled "Yay! Joan!"
How did people not freak out more when Joan named almost all of those actors' roles?
These guests were adorable and their vibes together was just so pleasant.
Fun fact: Flounders are not born flat with both eyes on one side of it's body. When it hatches it looks like a normal fish, but as it ages one of it's eyeball starts to migrate towards the other one and shape of the side without the eye changes drastically over time.
Man, some of these questions really tested my Disney knowledge. And here I thought having lived through the Golden Age would have prepared me.
I was amused by Moana's claim not to be a princess and Maui's reasons she really is. In actuality, she was from a long line of rulers expected to inheret the rolenof ruler and female. THAT is the definition of a princess.
Not if the parent isn't a 'king' or 'queen'. If the title of the ruler is different, then technically the child isn't a price or princess.
@@maryjoyspohrer256 No, then they just have a different word for the same thing... which they tend to do in countries with different languages.
@@Sam_on_CZcams You bring up a valid point. Thanks luv. I'm all for Moana being a princess anyway!
@@Sam_on_CZcams true but it's not the same thing because the system is different. if in Moana it was a similar system to monarchy then yes even if the official title isn't princess she would be considered a princess. however it was monarchy going on there it was a tribe like thing with a leader leaders and kings are different. hence not a princess still a leader
@@niharika3280 The definition of "monarch" is "head of state for life or until abducation." That fits their system, as depicted. A prince or princess is someone in line to inherit a role as a monarch. That fits. The size of the kingdom is not a factor.
I am just the right age to remember The Rescuers Down Under being heavily hyped in all the promotional materials as the first animated sequel with a theatrical release, so Disney would agree with you that The Three Caballeros doesn't count.
The second you mentioned falling deaths, I too thought of Clayton. I thought he was going to be the one mentioned that didn't die of a falling death. That one stuck so vividly in my head.
When Trapp set out to make a fun Disney quiz and ended up diving head first into the wonderful world of tax law.
I'll add that in "Return of Jafar", it's Dan Castellaneta (the voice actor for Homer Simpson) who voices the Genie. (He also voices Genie in the Kingdom Hearts video game series)
Castallaneta also originally voiced Genie for _The King of Thieves_ but Williams re-recorded once he came back.
He must have done a great job because my child brain didn't even notice.
Joan is a treasure and I always adore seeing her on the show ♡
Wow that real life skills question was out there. I would have just put on a deadpan expression and said, "Um actually...Treasure Planet."
We need another Disney episode. Maybe something for the television shows? Or only Pixar content?
Also, It's a super interesting insight that "Part of your world" is much better than "Under the sea". It isn't, not musically, but as a dramatic performance, it is far more transformative, and tells a story with both plot and emotional change over it's arc. Couldn't criticize anyone would taking the former over the latter!
I don't think anyone should say that one is much better than the other, musically speaking; they're completely different in style and arrangement, so it'd be impossible to make a direct comparison like that. They're both really good, musically.
Trapp is so fun, and such a great host
Trapps voice is still so soothing
I would say that the Dragon slaying in Sleeping Beauty is one of, if not the, most horrifying death in Disney. It is the most graphic one at least since I can't think of another Disney movie they actually show a weapon piercing the body and blood spilling out of a wound. Most of the other gruesome deaths are usually implied or in silhouette.
The Horned King's death was pretty dark as well .
I know it's not a death but watching Hercules grow old really fast terrified the hell out of me when I was a kid. Swimming through all of those green souls growing older closer to death.
There certainly was blood in that scene, Ursula it was more in silhouette.
Now I just want to see if there's a compilation of Disney villain deaths, because I feel like there might be another that dies by impalement
You've just reminded me that I watched this fort he first time when orange was 11 and this death fucking terrified me!
Right, like the guy in Tarzan who ended up being hung by the vines he was on.
If there were to be a film that "escaped from the Disney Vault" to see a home release, it'd have to be Song of the South; ain't nobody just letting THAT stroll out without a fight. ... though I imagine if it tried, the order would be shoot on sight, so it's hardly likely to happen.
The most they've done was some of the animated bits, iirc, I remember seeing them in a commercial or a video that had them, because I remember Zippedee doo dah, though I didn't watch the full film until 2009~ when I was a senior in college
That donkey scene from Pinocchio is scarier than any werewolf transformation.
I loveee Joan’s dress matching the Megara reference
There have been very many great episodes. This is the greatest! So much mutual love ❤️ and support! Oscar's excellent taste in movies! Joan's appreciation of the music 🎶 that speaks to the transgender soul. Thank you!
Emperor's New Groove is my favorite Disney movie, and I would love to see Temple of the Sun in an alternate universe.
Used to play the Playstation game just to hear the music and look at the scenery/buildings.
Not an Um Actually, but just an elaboration: Jeffrey Katzenberg wanted to cut "Part of Your World" from the film due to children being bored during that section in a screening. So I'm glad to see so much love for that song.
Same argument behind cutting When Love Is Gone from The Muppet Christmas Carol. Let the kids be bored!
@@TabbyclawAs an adult, that cut devastates me. But as a kid, I would have applauded it. Used to fast forward through it every time because I was uncultured swine, especially compared to the highly sophisticated swine in Muppet Christmas Carol.
"Enticing, but questionable." The Mike Trapp story.
The Disney princess line up included Mulan cause the rule is royal by blood, marriage, or they completed a great act of heroism as Mulan did
*completed.
Great episode. From Belle to Sebastian took me out immediately 😂
I love watching joan on these lol she always knows the answer to like everything lmao
love these contestants
15:57 Um actually, The process of being a Disney princess is a lot more complex than the statement suggests. It comes down to 5 parts:
1. The character must complete all of these 3 characteristics:
a) Must have a primary role
b) Must be human
c) Must not be introduced in a sequel
2. The character must then complete one of these 3 plot points:
a) Born into royalty
b) Married into royalty
c) Performed a significant act of heroism (Mainly for Mulan and Moana)
3. Box Office success (It's Disney, what are you going to do)
4. Must not have their own franchise (This is why Anna, Elsa and Tinker Bell are not princesses)
5. (and this was pointed out by Maoi) Must have an animal sidekick (Aurora and Snow White have the animals of the forest, Cinderella has Jacques, Gus Gus, Major, etc; Ariel has Flounder, Sebastian and Scuttle; Belle has Philippe, Jasmine has Rajah, Pocahontas has Meeko and Flit; Mulan has Mushu, Tiana has Raymond and Louis; Rapunzel has Pascal, Merida has Angus, and Moana has Pua/ Hei Hei.
Fun fact I learnt recently is that Tinkerbell actually appeared to be in the original line up for the Disney Princesses unti; slowly being phased out and the release of Disney Fairies (and later the Tinkerbell movies)
I'm so happy you guys continued making the show.
The mention of Tevon Cambell made me laugh because I2I has been stuck in my head all morning.
Um actually Iago was played by Gilbert Gottfried.
That Pleasure Island scene where they're puffing on cigars may've lead to me getting into them as an adult. It always looked so enjoyable to me. Turns out it was. Though when Pinocchio accidentally "swallows" or breathes in the long drag to look cool, that feeling is very real....
oh goodness!
I've definitely made myself quite green smoking a cigar inexpertly. But I will say, even as a non-smoker, cigars are so goddamn enjoyable.
RIP to Gilbert Gottfried. Thank you for your work, good sir. :( You will be missed.
The emperor’s new groove is such an underrated disney movie
Fun fact, while not mentioned in the movie (though possibly implied from their shared strong chins), the character Clayton is based on in the Tarzan books is actually Tarzan's cousin.
Love Dani so much!
I love everything about this
Um, Actually, there is no way "Part of your World" is the most queer coded "I want" song from Disney when "Reflection" exists. Sorry Joan!
I got so excited for this episode!!!
Love this group of players! This was a real fun one
Oh my gosh I've finally reached the episode that is deserve
My husband showed me the black cauldron and it’s so good 😭😭 one of my faves now
When trapp asked if they were Disney villain deaths that stuck with you, and Joan’s first answer was Clayton, I was like “YESSSSSSSS”
A video on a Wednesday? What a treat!
My favorite Disney movie is probably Black Cauldron. That was a great movie. My favorite "modern day" one is Lilo & Stitch and Emperor's New Groove.
This was a fun episode
Oscar! I listened to all of the Inside the Disney Vault and I love seeing you here
So many new episodes.
I am so proud T_T
Omg!!! Awesome contestants!!
Just a clarification: Disney did NOT rip off Kimba. Watch YourMovieSuck's 2 hour video essay about that topic. Short summary: all those comparison videos accusing Disney of copying scenes from Kimba are disingenuous, because the Kimba footage shown is either newer than Lion King, very generic footage (like a fight), or misleading (like making it seem that a warthog plays a big role in Kimba, which it doesn't. Kimba is also a series and a film series, so there's a lot of footage and of course some of it will be similar to Lion King, but the plots couldn't be more different.
Ooooh. Gonna resist watching this so I can watch it with my mom an we can kinda play along. SO glad you did a themed episode on something we'll both know!
Love this show! Can't wait to see something new!
Their app has new episodes released every other Friday. Its only like $2 a month
Um Actually, Oscar's Gilbert Gottfried is spot on. He should audition for any Gilbert Gottfried-type roles should the man himself decide to retire.
I don't care how on point his impression is, how's his "The Aristocrats"?
Actually, that's not entirely true. I suppose I could be convinced to care if he recorded the entire audiobook series for 50 Shades of Grey.
Sadly, he's recently passed away. RIP Mr. Gottfried. Your legacy lives on. :(
@@jeffquinz2118 IKR. When I made this post two months ago, I didn't know the man was already struggling with health problems. I was expecting Oscar to gun for those raspy voice roles 10 years from now.
RIP Mr. Gottfried, RIP.
@@jeffquinz2118 Um, Actually, YOU FOOL!
Finally one where I can maybe actually get some questions right!!!
Great group 😂 they are the friends I aspire to be
I didn't need the reminder that Human Centipede exists, especially not while I was eating, thanks guys.
Having once more without feeling in this is such an amazing choice!
I was watching this with headphones and didn’t realize I was actually laughing out loud until the person next to me visibly reacted 🤓😅
Joan's comment re: Human Centipede had me in stitches 💀
Yay I've been missing this!!
Leonard Nimoy also voiced Xehanort in kingdom hearts before his death where he was replaced by Christopher Lloyd
Um Actually, S-corp income is not taxed as a dividend. It's taxed as passthrough income (i.e. ordinary income) just like an LLC would be. The difference is that S-corp earnings are not subject to self employment (SE) tax (which is both the employee and employer portions of social security and medicare).
I love how excited Joan was to get the scar answer
The best piece of entertainment on the internet nowadays
Least fun correction, but - The S-corp thing is straight up wrong. Your S-corp income gets taxed as ordinary income, not subject to self-employment. This does give it favorable treatment with regards to FICA like they say, but it's not the same as being a dividend. Dividends would be subject to net investment income tax as well - s-corp income is not (generally). Dividends from an S-corp would also probably be de facto qualified dividends, which would qualify for the lower long-term capital gains rate (maxes out at 20% + net investment income tax) vs ordinary income rates (maxes out at 37%).
Also, an LLC can elect to be taxed as a C corporation. The C corporation can then apply for an S election to be treated as an S corp, so it's technically wrong too to say a single-member LLC can elect to be taxed as a sole proprietorship or an S corp.
OMG I love Oscar Montoya! I saw him in a Genuine Jerks sketch called Neighborhood Walk and he was amazing!
The villain death thing got me because I could see it in my head Scar falling and then when I heard how he died it's like a movie scene of who actually died
Have we had an episode of Joan and Goots facing off in Tv/Movie trivia yet?
Um actually beauty and the beast also one of the best original song 8:44