Innocence and Spontaneity of Not Knowing, Francis Lucille
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Francis doesn't deliver a pre-planned presentation. He speaks instead in the spirit of the moment, answering questions from the audience from the innocence and spontaneity of not-knowing.
Francis Lucille is a spiritual teacher of the tradition of Advaita Vedanta (non-duality). He became a disciple of Jean Klein, a French Advaita teacher whom he met in 1975. This was the beginning of a close association that lasted until the death of his friend and spiritual master in 1998. Jean Klein's own guru, "Panditji" Rao, whom he met in India in the nineteen-fifties, was a college professor in Bengalore who taught Sanskrit and belonged to a lineage of traditional Advaita Vedanta teachers. www.francislucille.com
ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS MAN.
Francis if ever i had a doubt that you were a realized being it is totally destroyed. The unlimited patience you showed in dealing with some of the questions is proof enough!! LOVE YOU.
I like this guy. First time I’ve watched him. No nonsense and no BS answers to some of the ridiculous (to me), questions. 😃👍
ABSOLUTELY STUNNING ... My first time to hear Francis, but not my last
Francis is a legend ❤️ It’s somewhat of an odd mix of states of openness that the questions are addressed from (A LOT of intellect/mind here). More fun to sing to someone that actually have an intention of hearing the song 🙏🏻
31.10.. "but the world doesn't want ignorance to get removed!..."
Woh Francis! well said!
Simply beautiful :)
Fearlessness and love... so sweet and inspiring.
WoW...Relatively speaking, it's great to have the op to listen to such clear understanding expressing itself in words thru Francis...Thanks for posting...I A(nama rupa)M !!!
Thank you for that first sharing. How many of us have tried to hide out in the absolute in the hopes of avoiding the challenges of being human?
Without Bhakti Jnana is incomplete.
I found that out the hard way.
Who told you?
@@freddystaelens Guruji
Without jnana, bhakti is just a belief system.
@@freddystaelens nobody needs to tell you. Look for yourself.
Thank you!
Thank you, Francis
Silence is the mother of thoughts n its destination
"what is hard for children to swallow is the despair of the parents especially when they hide it" !!!!
THANK YOU❤
Problems of the world can be solved by individual responsibility.
I really like Francis' answer about fearlessness, how that comes from the realization that reality is indestructible. I have to ponder that. But his answer to the question about dreamless sleep sounded like a cop out. Consciousness is simply a state of being aware, a state that is off in dreamless sleep and on when dreaming and in the waking state. Simple!
Deep sleep is consciousness experiencing absence of body snd mind. It is not the absence of consciousness. There is no proof that consciousness is the product of the mind. Scientists call it the "hard problem of conciousness"
I agree. i was aware of me sleeping several times.
Jesus is not a world saviour. Jesus is a soul saviour.
Duality and non-duality are still a something. There is nothing but energy from the Universal Consciousness. You create any reality you experience.
Non duality is a negation of two - what a negation leaves is zero.
@@kopilit Negation of negation points to that which is prior to assertion.
Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons,sometimes bring results.
Maestro
Bhakti,Jnana,and Karma yoga are the 3 wheels of the same tricycle..Sometimes one of them is the front wheel,one at a time.
It’s clear he understands. No bullshit.
The challenge is he is looking for verification and proof of God. This is impossible to do through the mind regardless of how intelligent or scientific. true verification comes from the heart. Not a belief, but a deep faith. - Author-Pure Happiness, Your Guide to Inner Freedom. With love
Who do you mean by He? Francis or the questioner?
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He said that;" fantasies are product's of the mind so they are not reliable" but he's own experience of the world is also a product of the mind.
To believe in God is a fantasy but also not believing is fantasy.
He is mostly focused on the thoughts and experience.
It is easy to change he's experience by the use of for example psychadelics.
But as you try to grasp our existence and the process in creation the impossibly probabilities for it.
Then it leads to a true astonishing and awe of it. where should these products be directed towards?
Hes experience of the world is consciousness experiencing consciousness, when you look at another person it's consciousness looking back at itself
So don’t base your life on beliefs you can’t verify. Wouldn’t that also include being an atheist just as much as any other way of thinking? Am I missing something there? Would it make sense, according to him, to have any view of it as that view would be based in something you can’t verify?
He is a willing atheist, willing to be proven wrong.
Would you also felt him for not believing in unicorns?
Either you are truth-seeker or you are not. What do you know for certain?
Francis doesn't seem to know the basic answers. As if all he can "know" is his own experience, as if the mind and heart aren't tools for knowing, even though inner knowingness quite naturally reforms and informs the mind and heart - what Christians know as rebirth. Sometimes the non dual teachers get trapped inside the certainty of inner knowingness, their inner experience of the Absolute. But as humans we are designed for holistic knowingness, an inner life that transforms all of life.
Les Butchart On target! What writes 'got trapped' in the 'certainty' of nothingness ( what in not being, is still a 'belief')!
All there is is the knowing of this experience and the prism of nuances it entails. When one is no longer mixed up in naming and attempting to understand the kaleidoscope of nuances, then it becomes clear as day that this knowing and all that it entails is fundamentally indivisble.
This is all that is being pointed to. The pointing process leaves many subtle hints to the seeking listener. When a question is not answered directly, it is often because the assumptions made in order to ask the question are themselves what need to be done away with. So the teacher is skilled in subtly taking the question as if to answer it, though redirecting it back towards he or she who feels it necessary to ask questions. This is by no means an avoidance or a misunderstanding of the question. Instead it is much more direct to the point. The amount of pedantic distinctions that can be made and wrestled with is endless.. better to cut to the chase while this body is still breathing.
One cannot be trapped in what has no boundaries. But one who expects one answer and gets another may have to let their disappointment be their lesson.
Seanqw3 I get that, the Socratic method, but Francis opened up the question of God to anyone's experience of God, and that doesn't go anywhere except to 100s of opinions, whereas the singular, common experience of God as the pervading consciousness of the universe, and all the nuances that entails, was oddly avoided, or so it seemed to me, and I saw it as his way of being captive to his own experience, when in fact God isn't a mystery, being obvious everywhere within and without. Being still, we find God within. Looking with spiritual eyes, we see God everywhere. But maybe we can't be still, or maybe we don't "know" what we see. That's where a bit of enlightenment comes in handy.
Yes, beautifully put. As far as his response goes... I see your point. In my experience, it is more effective to meet someone at their point of view and work from there than it is to speak in a more ultimate manner. Especially so for those who have not suffered enough their delusion to want to be cured of it, and are more in the position of the armchair-inquirer.
And I think he did meet the personal idea of God in the Socratic way, slicing and dicing. Knowing that, to the mind that finds itself to be separate, talk of God is often just more platform upon which to build belief and dualistic mental structures.
A good point though. Perhaps speaking directly of oneness is more effective to one who is more open, less guarded. Who can let the words themselves be mostly meaningless, and the pointing and intention and intuition provoke the transformation. And perhaps Francis sensed this and acted accordingly. Paradox at play, no doubt!
Seanqw3 I agree, yes, well said. I see it as the problem humans have with understanding. It can work for or against us. As westerners we tend to believe "I think, therefore I am" and we trust rational faculties of thought, which can be misleading, or a straightjacket, or open is up to spiritual experience, even to a non dual experience. This was my case, but, in the process I did have to get past my rangy old self - a process I'm still in. But the problem with explaining the spirit is, of course, thwarting deeper inner understanding by using words and concepts. (I totally get that.)
Bhakti,Jo
Completely intellectual blah. We cannot make decisions from our intellect as it only has about 10 percent of info. We live in a virtual reality. We don't need teachers, we are own teachers here to grow up, deal with our fears and become love.
First you say don't teach anything - then you say, grow up and become love which 1. is a teaching and 2. is a very stupid teaching to the ignorant (99.9999%) who are running on broken robotic scrupts , who have always confused love with dominance and duality and have fucked up this planet from the word go bar a handful of sages. Hell even telling a good percentage of the population to grow up will result in assault.
We do need teachers, to counter the bad teachings if nothing else.
yeh.. how's it going for you?
I am moved to say that this person, Francis Lucille, does not know what he is talking about. He is an egoist manipulatively playing on the weaknesses of those being sucked into his web.
My humble advice is to step clear from such self-possessed knowers. Trust life and be the light unto yourself.
No.its not like that.francis is very clear about what he teaches. But he seems to have run out of patience when dealing with the intellectualization of his questioners. His point is, while the path to truth is direct and immediate, according to his teaching, people will beat about the bush forever, finding clever questions..may be he should withdraw into silence..
But that would be a loss to those who see beyond the edge of impatience
8 minutes of my life I can't get back... is this is a prank?
If six months of silence isn't enough response, try another six. It may help clarify things.
@@kopilit ah, really, really, silence o dear what a relief